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This true-crime documentary examines the heinous crimes of Canadian fraudster Albert Walker also known as the Rolex Killer who murdered his friend Ronald Platt out at sea and then stole his identity.

Back in 1996, fishermen discovered a dead man's body washed up in a fishing net off the south coast of Devon. The victim was later identified by the expensive Rolex watch on his wrist, which had a unique serial number that led police to his name, Ronald Platt. The 51-year-old former soldier had died at sea and officers worked tirelessly to solve the mystery of his death.

The tragic death of Ronald Platt went down in history as one of the most bizarre and baffling murders.

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00:00:00Albert Walker was the most manipulative person I've ever met.
00:00:07Albert Walker is the former financier accused of killing a British associate after assuming his identity.
00:00:14Twenty times a hundred.
00:00:17Albert Walker was Interpol's fourth most wanted worldwide.
00:00:21A murky tale of murder involving two continents and millions of dollars.
00:00:28He needed a convincing, uncomplicated identity.
00:00:32No close family, just a single girlfriend.
00:00:35Within two hours of first meeting this voice, he had decided she was a perfect front for his operation.
00:00:41If I hadn't have got taken in on the first meeting and gone along with everything,
00:00:46things would have been completely different.
00:00:49It could have happened to anybody.
00:00:51The mobsters are intelligent, they hatch a plan, but they'll always make a mistake.
00:00:58The crew of the Brixham trawler, the Malkeri, hold up the body in their nets in July.
00:01:02Police have spent weeks trying to identify the dead man.
00:01:06Ultimately, the whole inquiry began with the Rolex watch.
00:01:11It's alleged he threw the body over the side of his yacht, weighed down with a ten pound anchor.
00:01:16Did you kill Ronald Black?
00:01:18Of course I didn't. He was a friend of mine.
00:01:21Us human beings are a mixed bag.
00:01:24Mostly we are really quite nice people, and every now and again there's an absolute rogue who gets away with murder.
00:01:31Well, almost got away with murder.
00:01:33I was a policeman for 30 years. Majority of my career as a detective.
00:01:52We ran a busy office. Burglaries, rapes, assaults.
00:01:58I dealt with quite a few fraudsters over the years.
00:02:01They were always very personable characters.
00:02:06Albert Walker was probably the slickest, most effective, most convincing one that I came across.
00:02:27I was working as a secretary to a fine art valuer in the centre of Harrogate, and this man walked in.
00:02:40He was tall, broad, and very gentlemanly.
00:02:48Charm is a very good way of describing how these people operate, if they get the right target.
00:02:53He said his name was David Davis, and I thought he was American.
00:02:57We just started chatting.
00:02:59He said to me, living in London at the moment, and looking at moving up to Harrogate,
00:03:05I couldn't get rid of him, to be honest. It took about two hours.
00:03:09They're looking for a vulnerability, be that appearance, behaviour, socialising.
00:03:19Once they home in on that, they're there. They're home dry.
00:03:23When this man was behaving the way he was to us, and speaking the way he was, it felt nice. It felt good.
00:03:33When I first met Elaine, I just liked her immediately.
00:03:37Elaine makes friends really easily.
00:03:39She's always been capable of far more than just being an admin person,
00:03:43but she never managed to escape that role, if you like.
00:03:49He said, I could do with somebody like you.
00:03:51He said, working for me, and he offered me a job.
00:03:56She was clearly impressed.
00:03:59I just felt that he could see something in me that nobody else had noticed before, and I felt special.
00:04:07So it did feel good. Yeah, it did.
00:04:10Me and my boyfriend, Ron, were saving up to go to Canada.
00:04:13So I thought, well, I might as well tell him this.
00:04:16If I came to work for you, I would only be working for you for, say, two years or so.
00:04:21So he said, that's fine. He said, if you work for me for a couple of years,
00:04:25I'll pay you more than you're earning here, you'll save up and you'll get to Canada quicker.
00:04:31Davis must have thought all his birthdays had come at once when he met Elaine in Harrogate
00:04:38and discovered that not only did she have a boyfriend who was virtually the same age as him,
00:04:45but that he wanted to live in Canada.
00:04:48It was just like almost a screenplay written for him.
00:04:55When I went back home and told Ron, he was ecstatic.
00:04:59He was like, oh, I'm on my way to Canada already.
00:05:04He was quite proud of the fact that he grew up in Canada.
00:05:08We always thought one day we'll go back together.
00:05:13Ron was very quiet, very shy, very soft-spoken, really a gentle sort of person.
00:05:23Oh, that's a good one of Ron. I like that. That was a super picture.
00:05:28I remember taking that. That was in my flat at Rutland Road.
00:05:32And I wanted to take his portrait.
00:05:35And it's a super picture. I love the eyes. It's just got beautiful eyes.
00:05:40The watch.
00:05:42He loved it so much he wouldn't take it off. He even had it on in the shower.
00:05:46So he wore it 24-7, that watch.
00:05:50I feel as if he's looking at me. Yeah.
00:05:54But he's not blaming me. He's all right. He knows.
00:06:03I was a 28-year-old young detective.
00:06:08I was posted down here on the 22nd of July, 1996.
00:06:13And this was my fourth or fifth shift when I got the call
00:06:17where a body had been discovered in the sea.
00:06:21I was on my way to work.
00:06:23I was on my way to work.
00:06:25I was on my way to work.
00:06:27...when I got the call where a body had been discovered in the sea.
00:06:46A body had been trawled up by a local fishing trawler and brought into Brixham Harbour.
00:06:51Harbour. I got the call from Brixham Coast Guard, could I either intercept it or
00:06:58meet it in Brixham and clear the quay?
00:07:02In the days preceding that, there'd been an unfortunate incident in Torbay where
00:07:09a young lad had gone missing off a pedalo and it did cross my mind at that
00:07:13stage that this could be the body of that young lad that had been brought in.
00:07:20When I actually got there, we got on board and I saw the trawl cut end in
00:07:28the fish pound and a big lump inside. It looked quite fresh, the skin was still
00:07:33intact and was still, I wouldn't say a good colour, it was very grey and mottled, but
00:07:40bits of the body were still there that you wouldn't expect to be there had it
00:07:45been some time in the water. I would have put him in his probably 30s, he was
00:07:51certainly older than the student we were looking for. It didn't have any
00:07:55identification on him at all, he was dressed in a check shirt with a pair of
00:07:59light trousers, a belt and a pair of deck shoes. Looking down I saw his pockets,
00:08:06trouser pockets were turned inside out, so now I'm thinking probably robbery or
00:08:12whatever gone wrong. The only thing of any note on the body was he was wearing
00:08:17a Rolex wristwatch. So then things didn't fit. I could probably do my whole service
00:08:26again and I still wouldn't get a case like this one.
00:08:36The crew of the Brixham Trawl of the Malkyrie pulled up the body in their nets
00:08:40in July. Police have spent weeks trying to identify the dead man. Initially there
00:08:47was local publicity around any missing persons in the area in
00:08:52Devon and Cornwall or Dorset. The body's discovery by a fishing boat started a
00:08:57meticulous search by police for a cause of death. It was then publicised further
00:09:02afield. How long did it take you to realise there was actually a body snarled
00:09:06in the net? Once we'd realised what had happened, I mean I suppose we were still
00:09:11in a state of shock when we came in. And some of the main ferry companies were
00:09:15contacted to see if they'd had any missing persons overboard, but all that
00:09:19came to nothing.
00:09:29One of the coroner's officers mentioned to me that he was aware that Rolex
00:09:36kept really good records of the servicing of any wristwatches and in
00:09:41fact if we opened up the back of the Rolex they could get a little serial
00:09:45number from there and then compare it with their records at head office. So
00:09:48that's what we did. We sent the Rolex off to a Rolex company in Kent who opened it
00:09:53up for us and then were able to inform us that it had been repaired and
00:09:56serviced in a small jewellers in Harrogate in Yorkshire. Once the
00:10:01inquiries of the jewellers had been conducted, we finally had a name and it
00:10:06was Mr. Ronald Joseph Platt.
00:10:24Elaine rang me to say that this American guy was offering her a job. There was a
00:10:30lot of whining and dining involved. He was taking her out to dinner quite
00:10:35often. She certainly gave the impression that he'd got money. There was no doubt
00:10:40about it. He arranged to meet me one particular night after work. I was unsure
00:10:47about everything and I hadn't made my mind up. This American, he was charming.
00:10:52Yeah, he could be absolutely charming. She would not expect anybody to be so
00:10:57manipulative. Fraudsters, a lot of the times, they're very clever. I think Albert
00:11:03Walker came in contact with Elaine and quickly realised that she was a
00:11:08character that was able to be manipulated and she and her partner, Ron
00:11:13Platt, could suit his own ends and was merciless in his pursuit of that. He said
00:11:20to me, he said, I think really I need to meet Ron, he said, because it sounds to me
00:11:25like if Ron was on board with you that you would be more interested in joining
00:11:32me, sort of thing. So that's what happened.
00:11:39They hit it off straight away. I think it was the accent and the way that Mr. Davis
00:11:45was, the way he spoke, they were just like buddies and he sort of
00:11:50actually asked Ron, are you happy for Elaine to work for me? And Ron said, yes,
00:11:55yes, of course. So left a few weeks later and started working for this Mr. Davis.
00:12:11Next thing, she's working for this guy. She's flying to Geneva for
00:12:19Elaine to get a touch of that high life. Obviously, she's quite excited. He would
00:12:24send me abroad because he wanted to buy a property. He wanted to buy a property
00:12:28in France eventually. He actually rang the estate agents in France and he set
00:12:34it all up for me. He was totally controlling, totally coercive in almost
00:12:38every one he came into contact with. He set up the trains, the plane, so yeah, well
00:12:47it was exciting. It was exciting. It's the controlling of a person's life, how
00:12:52they act, what they can do, what they can't do. I think there was so much
00:12:56travel involved that we didn't get to speak so much at that time. Part of the
00:13:02job, what I would do is take photographs of the properties that I was
00:13:05been showing around and I would write like a little report. It's a means of
00:13:11manipulating people to believe something that isn't there.
00:13:17The police have spent weeks trying to identify the dead man, what they now
00:13:33believe is 51-year-old Essex businessman Ronald Platt. It was down to me to try
00:13:38and establish why Mr. Platt had ended up in the water. Ron was a quiet gentleman,
00:13:44kept himself to himself, appeared to be a solid, loyal gentleman who was really
00:13:52no enemies, was just a quiet, hard-working man. The bank, after we
00:13:58enquired with them, were able to give us the last known address of Mr. Ronald
00:14:02Platt in Beardsley Drive in Essex. I phoned Essex police one evening and
00:14:08spoke to a detective sergeant, Peter Redman, who happened to pick up the phone
00:14:12in the office that day. It wasn't an enquiry that came to me, the phone just
00:14:16happened to be ringing, I was the only one in the office. Hello? The enquiry
00:14:21came through to make enquiries at the address Beardsley Drive here in
00:14:24Chelmsford. I spoke to the landlord and they said, oh, the property is now
00:14:31vacant and this was the chap who stood guarantor, Mr. Davis, Little London
00:14:38Lane. I had a phone number, so I phoned it and spoke to him. I didn't want to
00:14:51say why I was calling because obviously I was potentially giving this chap
00:14:56notification of his friend having died. I wanted to visit him or at least meet
00:15:00him face to face. But anyway, he got me to tell him why and he said, I'll come
00:15:07to the police station. And that's what he did. I brought him from the front
00:15:16counter into the office. Tall chap, casually dressed but very expensively
00:15:21dressed. Immaculate, everything was clean and I would imagine top-notch.
00:15:28Shoes, trousers, the jacket. He looked a country gentleman. That was possibly
00:15:34the best way to describe him. Very personable character, could talk with
00:15:38very ease. So he came in with photographs of Ron. I put him on the phone to Ian
00:15:47Clennahan down in Devon and the two of them had a chat on the phone. He was
00:15:51obviously upset and appeared shocked to me and wanted to know some detail about
00:15:56what had happened and how he'd been found, which I told him. And he was able
00:16:01to tell me that as far as he was concerned, Ronald Platt set off the week
00:16:05previously to France on some sort of boating vessel to emigrate to France and
00:16:11start a new life over there. At that point, the story started to fit together
00:16:15a bit more and I was along the lines of there had been some tragic boating
00:16:20accident and unfortunately he'd fallen overboard a ferry or another boat and
00:16:25he'd met his end like that, unfortunately. I didn't think I had any
00:16:32idea of what was coming next, to be fair.
00:16:34It was quite exciting. David Davis would send me to go to Geneva usually on a
00:16:55weekend and I would meet up and show him the photographs and give him a report
00:16:59of the area. Around that time, he actually moved up to Harrogate. He got
00:17:07involved with various things like the Baptist church. He came across as a very
00:17:11good Christian person. David came to church one Sunday morning with his
00:17:19daughter, Noelle. Blazer, God's tight tie, very Harrogate. And he fitted in to this
00:17:30kind of congregation where people did dress smartly for church in those days. He
00:17:35happily introduced himself. He could sing, good singer. You could hear him singing.
00:17:41All of that threw himself into it with gusto and we were glad he was here. His
00:17:46daughter, Noelle, came as well and kind of impressions of her. I think I was a
00:17:50little bit in love with her, actually. She was very good looking. A few years
00:17:54older than me, 15 or 16 maybe. David was happy to talk to people and to chat. He
00:18:01said, I'm a financial man. I've got lots of expertise around the world in handling
00:18:06finances. If any of you want any help with all of that, I'm your man. As far as
00:18:12we saw, he was a nice guy. The first or second time that we went to Gatwick, he
00:18:21booked me into a hotel there because the flight to Geneva was the first thing the
00:18:25next morning. So we had dinner and then he said, do you mind if I just have a
00:18:34look at your room, see what your room's like? So I was a bit perplexed and I
00:18:39thought, well, I can't say no. So we got into the lift and I'm thinking, what's
00:18:46going on here? And I was really quite nervous inside but I was trying not to
00:18:50show it. He goes into the room and he said, oh, it's a nice room sort of thing.
00:18:56Sits on the edge of the bed. I'm sat on the other edge of the bed and he went
00:19:01into his jacket pocket and he brought out an envelope and he said, when you're
00:19:06over in Geneva, I'd like you to change some money for me. He said, Geneva is full
00:19:12of bureauty changes and that's what happens, that's what businessmen are
00:19:15doing all the time, they're changing money. When he'd gone, rang Ron and I
00:19:20explained what had happened and he said, Mr Davis is a businessman, he understands
00:19:26these things. It sounded right. So anyway, when I went, I saw there was loads of
00:19:30bureauty changes and I actually thought, oh well, that sounds like it's what
00:19:35happens. You're giving them your passport, they change the money and that's it.
00:19:41I would have thought nothing of it because he was a wealthy man. The banking
00:19:46system is nothing like it is today. It's so easy to transfer money anywhere in
00:19:51the world, isn't it? If it wasn't there.
00:19:55Elaine was transferring money between accounts in Europe but what she didn't
00:20:01know was Albert Walker was wanted in Canada by the Royal Mounted Police for a
00:20:07large-scale, multi-million pound fraud.
00:20:17After a few months, this man became a friend to Ron and he was like a father
00:20:23figure to me because my family, we had quite a difficult childhood. It felt nice,
00:20:30it felt good, it felt cared for. There was one day when he said he wanted to
00:20:37set up a company called Cavendish Corporation Limited. So he bought this
00:20:41company and he said, what I want to do is I want to meet you and Ron Directors.
00:20:47We just sort of went along with it because he talked us through what was
00:20:53involved, he would be putting the money into the business so there
00:20:57wouldn't be any problems. Everything was being done in the company name.
00:21:04It was this Cavendish Corporation Limited and Elaine was a director and then next
00:21:12thing Ron was involved in it as well and it was all very odd and he was keeping
00:21:17his name out of everything. We went to the banks in Harrogate to open a bank
00:21:24account for Cavendish and the guy said how much money are we talking about and
00:21:28he did say something like two million or something ridiculous. He didn't go back
00:21:35to that bank because of whatever questions he'd asked but he went to a
00:21:39different bank and it was all easy. He just was able to, yes we just need this
00:21:44Mr Davis, we just need that, that document, that document and we'd opened an
00:21:48account for Cavendish Corporation and Ron and I as directors. He was using them
00:21:56to front this business which I mean I just thought the whole thing was incredibly suspicious.
00:22:01At this point I was just tying up a few loose ends and then putting the file into our local
00:22:20coroner. I needed a few more facts from David Davis and I contacted DS Redman again
00:22:25and asked him whether he would go around to the address and speak to him on my behalf.
00:22:29Yeah, no problem, I can do that.
00:22:37So I drove over to Woodham Walter. I'd never been there before. It's a very sleepy village,
00:22:43not a lot happens so not a lot of call for police and I went to the address.
00:22:51Now there are three houses in that road.
00:22:54None of them have got the name so I've pulled up in front of the middle one just, well it's the
00:22:59middle one, knocked on the door. Lovely couple, elderly couple, come in for a cup of tea. So I sat
00:23:05down in their beautiful cottage with them. Who are you looking for? Oh, I'm after David Davis.
00:23:10Oh no. They said that a couple lives next door, both had American accents. He's a lot older than
00:23:18her. She's quite a young, pretty young thing, Noel. I don't know a David Davis.
00:23:26Ron Platt lives next door. I think, hang on, what's going on here?
00:23:47The sheer amount of people Albert Walker was able to con
00:23:51and make believe he was something other than he was is incredible. If you were to change your
00:23:58identity now and become someone else, there'll always be something on the internet that proves
00:24:03you're not that person, whereas in the mid-90s, I think it was easier to hide your tracks back then.
00:24:11I was sat at my desk one evening when I received a call from Peter Redman.
00:24:15He told me that, in fact, there'd been some major developments in the case.
00:24:19This American guy living next door to this elderly couple seemed to be posing as Ronald Joseph Platt.
00:24:26I put the phone down from Pete and I thought, where's this going? Phil Sincock was the DI.
00:24:34So I knocked on his door and he was actually really busy and he said, not now, go away.
00:24:38And I said, no, I think you need to listen. No, he said, I'm really busy. Come back in half an
00:24:41hour. I said, no, boss, I really think you need to listen to me. Go on then. So I said, look,
00:24:46this is what's happened. And he was like, oh, God, right, OK. He said, the governor's shut himself
00:24:51in his office thinking about it. And then half an hour later, he said, the boss will be up tomorrow.
00:25:00And of course, it changed the whole complexion of the inquiry.
00:25:19So Christmas 92, David Davies suggested that we have Christmas together, the four of us,
00:25:24you know, him and Noel, his daughter and Ron and I. So we had Christmas dinner at his house
00:25:33and then he gave us a Christmas card. It was very simply, it just read that I will pay for two
00:25:41tickets to Canada, but to be redeemed by the end of February. So when I looked at that, I thought,
00:25:48my goodness, Ron was ecstatic. Ron was ecstatic. You couldn't believe it. He was,
00:25:54he just was like a little kid that's just got his sweets, you know. But I was like, well, what? This
00:26:00is only two months. I was quite shocked, really. I thought, well, what do we do with our flat? We've
00:26:05got to sell our flat. And when I asked him that, I said, what about all that? He said, he said,
00:26:10don't worry, leave it with me. I'll sort it for you. I'll sort it. He said, he said, what I'll
00:26:15need to sell your flat and Cavendish. I understood he was closing it all down because he was going to
00:26:21France with Noel. He said, what I'll need is access to your national insurance number and
00:26:26we'll have to make some rubber stamps of your signatures. He said, and this is common practice
00:26:30in business. I felt I didn't have any choice. I felt I wanted to make Ron happy. I knew that
00:26:42ultimately we'd end up going to Canada. And I suppose, why not now? And I think that was his
00:26:49argument was, why not go and achieve your dreams now? Get on with your life and move to Canada.
00:26:56Elaine wasn't telling it as if he was getting rid of them. It was sort of how kind of him.
00:27:05But I saw it very much as he's getting rid of them.
00:27:13Heavy snowfall develops for the region. That will be unleashing very cold temperatures. So
00:27:19bitter wind chills as we head into the weekend.
00:27:25Canada, in the middle of January, it was about minus 35 to 40. It was freezing.
00:27:33We found somewhere to live fairly quickly that was cheek and cheerful on the outskirts of Calgary.
00:27:38And we walked from the outskirts of Calgary to the centre of Calgary and it was freezing. I'm
00:27:45not kidding you. We had to, we got downtown and we had to rush into a store to stop us
00:27:51getting like frostbite. We were that cold. In Calgary, it was, it was quite difficult because
00:28:01legally I couldn't work there. But Ron could. So he tried to get a job, but he found it difficult.
00:28:08In the meantime, I said, well, why don't you try and get something local in a local shop,
00:28:12get a job doing anything? And he didn't want to do that. He said, no, I want a job doing
00:28:20engineering, doing something that he knew. But yeah, it put a strain on our relationship.
00:28:26I'd never seen Ron angry ever, but I could see that the pressure and the stress was getting to him.
00:28:35And that started to change our relationship.
00:28:42He did get down. Yeah. And I got down, we both got down to be honest.
00:28:47She didn't particularly enjoy it and she was just
00:28:50desperately homesick. All in all, it wasn't a good experience.
00:28:57I was going back at the end of July for my sister's wedding, but I had, I sort of decided
00:29:01that I wasn't coming back to Canada, but I didn't say anything. I couldn't discuss it with him.
00:29:07It would be too painful. Of course, Ron was expecting her back,
00:29:13but she just couldn't bring herself to go back.
00:29:20But I think she also felt extremely guilty that it was his dream and she wasn't living it.
00:29:28So it was, it was sad really.
00:29:36At some point I did speak to him and said I wasn't coming back and he was heartbroken.
00:29:45This is a postcard Ron sent me. He writes to say, dear Elaine, the landlord is selling the house,
00:29:52so I'll have to look for somewhere else nearby if possible.
00:29:56I'm still at the job at Strathmore. I hope it takes me through the winter,
00:30:02which is very cold, 30 below zero with snow blizzards.
00:30:09Dear Elaine, I've had to move into one of those grotty apartments
00:30:13down the road. You passed them on the way to Reno's hairdressers. No choice really. I'm
00:30:18posting many parcels to you every day to get your things to safety. Every last penny goes on postage.
00:30:26Keep your spirits up and take care. All the best. Love, Ron.
00:30:32Gosh, that's sad, isn't it? Sorry. It's really sad that, because he's sending all his, all my things
00:30:39back to England. Yeah. And he's got to get out of where he lives. But it's just sad really, because
00:30:46he didn't deserve to be stuck there on his own. I should have been with him really.
00:31:05There are so many reasons why people would lie. There are so many reasons why people would live
00:31:11under a false identity. We're putting together this picture of who is actually there, who's
00:31:18paying the council tax. By that time, we'd done all the checks and everything had come back. Bank
00:31:24accounts had come back in Ronald Platt's name. I think driver's license had come back in Ronald
00:31:28Platt's name with photographs of David Davis on. I mean, it was completely, right, we need to know
00:31:35what's going on here. But at the time, we were a million miles away from thinking he was a murderer.
00:31:40We were just a million miles away from putting two and two together and getting four.
00:31:48From his army records, we discovered Ronald's next of kin was his brother, Brian Platt.
00:31:54And I traveled up to Hay-on-Wye and spoke with Brian about it. And Brian informed me that he
00:32:00had a longtime partner, a lady called Elaine, who was now living in Harrogate.
00:32:10I wasn't rushing to sort of keep friendship with David Davis. I wasn't rushing to communicate
00:32:36with Ron, particularly. So I sort of thought, I've just got to sort of look after me now.
00:32:42I was thinking, oh, well, you know, will she go back to work for David Davis again? But there
00:32:47was no offer of continued employment with him, none whatsoever. It was very obvious
00:32:56that he didn't want that. He was moving down to the south of England with Noel.
00:33:04And so basically, as far as I knew, that there was no Cavendish Corporation.
00:33:11It had all just dissolved.
00:33:23Probably about two years later, I think Ron had written to me to say that he was coming back.
00:33:28I phoned him up and said, are you sure you want to come back, Ron?
00:33:34He said, yeah. He said, I can't cope with the winters. I'm not happy in my job. I want to come
00:33:39back home. But he said, don't worry, I'm not coming back to Harrogate. And then in the conversation,
00:33:45he sort of said that David Davis was meeting him at the airport. So when he said that, I said,
00:33:53well, just be careful, Ron. He promised me he would be there to help me. And he didn't.
00:33:59He just dropped me. Beware of that. And I just warned him, really, to be careful.
00:34:06David Davis would have been furious. It certainly didn't suit his plans, did it?
00:34:13It would be about September 1996, and I was living at home with my mum,
00:34:19and we needed some legal advice. So I thought I would phone David.
00:34:29Just towards the end of the phone call, I said to him, have you heard from Ron recently, David?
00:34:34And he said, no, I haven't. And I said, OK, well, I'm going to call David.
00:34:39I said to him, have you heard from Ron recently, David? And he says, no, he says, I haven't seen
00:34:48him since the beginning of June. He said, I sent him to France to start a TV repair business.
00:34:53And I said, what? Why would he do that? He can't speak French. So how would he survive in France?
00:35:03There was something wrong, yeah.
00:35:09A couple of weeks later, I'm working in the coffee shop, and my mother turns up at five o'clock.
00:35:16She said, I've got some bad news. And I could just tell by the look on her face, there was something
00:35:22horrible going on. And she said, the police have phoned this afternoon. Ron's body's been found
00:35:29off the south coast somewhere. And I said, I'm going to go and see what's going on.
00:35:35Ron's body's been found off the south coast somewhere.
00:35:40And I just went, I don't know. My mum said afterwards that I was just in shock,
00:35:44complete shock. I was. I was just, yeah, a wreck, really. Just awful. Just horrible.
00:35:53To be honest, I still feel like I'm that rabbit in the headlights. I'm still stuck,
00:35:59frozen, with the shock of it all.
00:36:04The police wanted to speak to me that night at seven o'clock.
00:36:11The phone rang at seven. It was Cornwall and Devon police.
00:36:14Chatted with Elaine, and she told me about their life together and their relationship with,
00:36:20her relationship initially with David Davis, and then the introduction of Ronald into that
00:36:25relationship and how they all got on together. He'd spoken to David Davis as part of their
00:36:29inquiries. And I said, when did you speak to Mr. Davis? He said, weeks ago.
00:36:39And I just froze. He said to me, what's wrong? I said, well, yeah. I said, I spoke to this man
00:36:48two weeks ago. But you're telling me you spoke to him five or six weeks ago. So that means that
00:36:54he knew that when I had that phone call with him, he knew that Ron was dead.
00:37:00He sort of said, oh, don't worry. He said, we are going to be speaking to
00:37:04Mr. Davis. There was no suspicions there. They just wanted to chat to me about Ron and
00:37:10close the file. I got the impression that they were sort of closing the file.
00:37:15We wanted to play it down because we were unsure where the investigation was heading at that time.
00:37:21And of course, we were unsure who was involved. So we needed to get our facts sorted out and
00:37:27establish exactly what had been going on before we were open with our thoughts,
00:37:33if you like, with Elaine. So in a way, we played our cards very close to our chest.
00:37:39The next day, the phone rings. Who is it? David Davis. Oh, come, he's phoning me. So I'm panicking,
00:37:47aren't I? I'm panicking. And he says, hi, Elaine. It's David. So I said, oh, hi, David.
00:37:54He says, how are you? He's really upbeat. He's really jolly. He's got a lovely voice.
00:38:00He's got a lovely voice. He's got a lovely voice. He's got a lovely voice. He's got a lovely voice.
00:38:05He says, how are you? He's really upbeat. He's really jolly and all the rest of it. And I said
00:38:10to him, I said, have you heard about Ron? And he said, oh, yes. He said, oh, I wanted to contact
00:38:18his mum and send his mum some flowers. And he said, well, he said, I'm in Leeds, actually, he says,
00:38:24and I was going to head over to see you. Can I come over and see you now? I'm sat there,
00:38:29terrified. So he said, I'll be there in about, I don't know, 45 minutes or so.
00:38:33So I put the phone down and freeze, just freeze.
00:38:49Elaine contacted us and told us that David Davis had been in contact with her
00:38:54and he wanted to meet up with her. And she was panicking a bit over that meeting.
00:38:59But she was advised to meet him in a public place and not ask too many questions and see
00:39:06what he wanted to offer to her and then obviously report back to us.
00:39:23So David comes to where I work and we sit down and somebody gets us a coffee.
00:39:36I'm sat there really, really scared and I don't know what to say. That's the main thing. I don't
00:39:41know what to say. He said he was really shocked and he said that he was so upset that he'd shed
00:39:49tears on the way up on the train. He was so upset about what had happened to Ron.
00:39:54I was quite wary of what I said and I was listening to what he was saying
00:40:00and I was trying to not be with him for very long.
00:40:04There must have been a reason why he wanted to meet her and I would imagine it was to find out
00:40:12what the police had asked her and what information she had given to the police.
00:40:16I was being careful, yeah, what I said.
00:40:21We stood up and he held my hands and he sort of looked at me and he said,
00:40:24he said, I really do care for you, you know, and yeah, oh dear, it's weird, isn't it? Weird.
00:40:31Inquiries had continued with the house and the utility bills and we'd looked into David
00:40:36Davis's mobile phone number, which I'd spoken to him on, and we made inquiries with the cell provider.
00:40:44Those inquiries came back that in the week preceding the body being recovered,
00:40:50we could see that there was a lot of blood on the floor and there was a lot of blood on the
00:40:55that in the week preceding the body being recovered,
00:41:00we could place David Davis down in Devon, in South Devon in particular.
00:41:05And that really kind of was the tipping point in this investigation that we decided then
00:41:10we were going to arrest him for the murder of Ron Platt.
00:41:18Somewhere along the line, someone said, well, they're American,
00:41:21we think it might be a murder inquiry, he might have a gun.
00:41:25I've no idea where that came from, but anyway,
00:41:27it got ramped up and suddenly it was going to become an armed operation.
00:41:33I thought, I'll go past the house on the way to work. From the corner, I could see the house
00:41:41and a taxi came past me and went down the lane and it stopped outside one of the two houses,
00:41:46I couldn't see which. Very dodgy phone signal, but I managed to get through and say, look, car's there.
00:41:54They put two armed response vehicles on standby.
00:41:58This taxi came back out the lane, I thought, I can't take a chance that he's not in it.
00:42:04So I followed it in my car, caught up and then the armed response vehicles
00:42:10caught me up and overtook and then stopped this taxi.
00:42:17Mr Davis, cool as a cucumber. I said, good morning, Mr Davis, remember me?
00:42:24I'm arresting your suspicion of the murder of Ron Platt and, OK, that was it.
00:42:32No other response at all, none at all.
00:42:39We organised a dedicated search team to come and do the house,
00:42:43it's a big house, and to do it properly.
00:42:46One, two, three, four.
00:42:48When they searched the house, they did find numerous documents in the name of both David
00:42:52Davis and Ronald Platt, including passports and bank details, driver's licences, etc.
00:42:5820 tonnes a hundred.
00:43:03His young wife, she was packing a bag and when the officers searched that bag,
00:43:08the bag was stuffed with gold bars and cash.
00:43:11We'd also discovered from paperwork during the house search that he had a boat.
00:43:17In the room we were using, the conference room, big white board,
00:43:21Bill and I and others had made different notes on the board and one of the notes was the Lady Jane.
00:43:27That was the name of his boat. We didn't know where that was.
00:43:30It wasn't down in Brixham because they checked, it couldn't be found down there,
00:43:34we didn't know where it was.
00:43:35The inspector in charge comes in and he's looking at the board and he says,
00:43:39Lady Jane. I said, yeah, that's, we think that's his boat, don't know where it is.
00:43:45Oh, it's down at Tillingham, in Dry Dock at Tillingham, I'm a sailor, I saw it there at the weekend.
00:43:58Chances are that.
00:44:02They didn't search it there at all. It was sealed and trailered down to the
00:44:07forensic science service in Devon.
00:44:14David Davis turned up at the police station immaculately dressed.
00:44:18He was very smart, very polite.
00:44:21His fingerprints were taken because he was suspected to be an American citizen.
00:44:27We had sent the fingerprints off to Interpol for further examination.
00:44:31When they searched him, in one pocket he was David Davis and in the other he was Ron Platt.
00:44:38They didn't think he was David Davis, so that was really bad because I was thinking,
00:44:43well, if he isn't David Davis, who the heck is he?
00:44:50A man in his mid-50s and a woman in her 20s were brought to Torquay police station for questioning.
00:44:56They'd been detained at a house in Essex where Ronald Platt is registered as the sole occupant.
00:45:01The police say they're having difficulty establishing the identity of the pair in custody.
00:45:07Throughout the dealings with him in custody prior to the interview,
00:45:11he was most helpful and most polite and talkative.
00:45:14We sat down an interview, pressed the record button on the interview tapes
00:45:19and he never said another word during the interview.
00:45:24We can keep him up to 24 hours without charge.
00:45:27But prior to the 24 hours being up, we got notification from Interpol
00:45:31that in fact, David Davis was not David Davis at all
00:45:35and he was Interpol's fourth most wanted man in the world and his name was Albert Johnson Walker.
00:45:46The murky world of Albert Walker, a world of switched identities, lies and a life on the run.
00:45:52In all, Walker conned people in Ontario out of more than three million dollars.
00:45:57The next thing, I've got a Canadian journalist knocking on the door
00:46:02with a wad of newspapers from Canada with all the stuff about him.
00:46:08Jim O'Connell.
00:46:09Hello, Jim. It's our officer.
00:46:10Walker agreed to a series of exclusive telephonic interviews with Canadian journalists.
00:46:16Jim O'Connell.
00:46:17Hello, Jim. It's our officer.
00:46:19Walker agreed to a series of exclusive telephone interviews
00:46:23discussing the many crimes of which he's accused.
00:46:31Are you ashamed of what you've done?
00:46:33I'm sorry for what I've done.
00:46:35But you're not ashamed of it?
00:46:37Well, remorse is, I think, a more appropriate word.
00:46:43Walker had stolen millions of dollars from elderly investors.
00:46:46A lot of people lost their life savings with him.
00:46:48They were retired school teachers, doctors, etc,
00:46:52who had dealt with Mr. Walker for the last 10 or 15 years.
00:46:56That's heartbreaking when you've got to think back and realise that
00:47:04you lost everything through one man.
00:47:07But people do bad things and regret it and ask for forgiveness.
00:47:21He'd had an investment company and he literally fled with all the money
00:47:25and ripped people off, so their pensions and stuff.
00:47:29He just fled.
00:47:32Do you think that you'll ever tell police where you stashed the money?
00:47:36Well, I don't think I want to go into that.
00:47:40But the money is here and there.
00:47:44Albert Walker was a pillar of the close-knit community.
00:47:48He taught Sunday school and served as an elder in St. Paul's United Church.
00:47:54It just made you realise all those lies, like his wife was an eminent GP,
00:47:59he said he'd been a banker in Geneva, or everything about him was all lies.
00:48:05He, his wife and their four children lived an apparently idyllic life in this attractive house.
00:48:10Al was a very charming kind of guy that could talk to anybody on any subject.
00:48:14And on the outside or away from the house, he was well-liked and people enjoyed his conversations.
00:48:22At home it was different because he had a bad temper, he could be physical at times.
00:48:29I was in a situation where my marriage was on the rocks,
00:48:33my business was ready to fall apart, my wife was
00:48:37telephoning some of the investors and saying that I was going to run off with their money.
00:48:43Old friends and clients trusted him with their life savings.
00:48:47People here and officers who deal with me every day say they've never met a more honest inmate.
00:48:52Everything I asked him, any questions I asked, any queries, any concerns,
00:48:56he seemed to have an answer for it. He seemed to have a plausible answer.
00:49:01For the victim, it is so heartbreaking and very often they don't realise they've been a victim.
00:49:07They really don't. They're convinced that this person
00:49:12is genuine and that they've been doing them a favour.
00:49:16Every police force in the country, including the Mounties,
00:49:19were looking for him after he left his family behind in Paris, Ontario.
00:49:23When he left Canada, Walker travelled to Geneva,
00:49:26then England where he lived with his daughter under the name David Davies.
00:49:30How do you justify taking your teenage daughter away from her home and her family,
00:49:36making her a fugitive and using her as a cover, as your wife?
00:49:40I didn't want her to come with me. She pleaded with me.
00:49:43She threatened to run away from home, you know, if I didn't take her with me.
00:49:48She just didn't want to go back and live with her mother.
00:49:52So David's daughter was Noelle, Noelle Davies.
00:49:56She was lovely, a very nice, very nice young lady.
00:49:59It was almost impossible to get Noelle to talk.
00:50:03She was massively shy, reticent, yes, quiet, all of that.
00:50:09I mean, she came, she sat with her father and came and went.
00:50:18You would hardly know she was here in terms of relating to other people,
00:50:23just quietly in the background all the time.
00:50:26According to Barbara Walker, the Ontario Provincial Police
00:50:29never undertook an active search for her daughter.
00:50:33And despite help from neighbours,
00:50:34private detective costs and now legal fees have broken the family financially.
00:50:42It became clear that what was the young wife living with him at the address
00:50:46under Noelle Davies was in fact his daughter, Sheena.
00:50:50We're especially impressed with the people in England who are helping Sheena right now
00:50:55because their understanding of the situation is so complete and so thorough
00:51:01and they're treating her as a victim rather than a criminal.
00:51:05When we spoke to Sheena, she was able to tell us that on the night in question
00:51:10that she and her father had been visiting a holiday cottage down in South Devon.
00:51:16It was a defining moment in the inquiry,
00:51:18but the whole case was still built on circumstantial evidence.
00:51:22Ronald had died by drowning.
00:51:25So we had to prove, number one, that he'd been murdered
00:51:28and number two, who had done that murder.
00:51:40It's nearly two years now since a man's body was trawled up
00:51:43in the nets of this fishing boat just off Tynmouth.
00:51:47Under police escort, Canada's most wanted man arrived in Exeter Crown Court.
00:51:52He's pleaded not guilty and the trial's expected to last at least three weeks.
00:51:57There were lots of cameras about and film crews.
00:52:01This was a case which had hit all the front pages of the tabloid newspapers
00:52:06and the BBC and ITV main evening news.
00:52:10And there was a lot of press interest in and around Exeter Crown Court
00:52:14at the time of that trial.
00:52:15To be honest, it was a bit bizarre to be attending a court case with the press there
00:52:23and me being part of it.
00:52:24It was like it wasn't the real world, you know.
00:52:28It's very hard to believe that a man could do that
00:52:30to somebody who was supposed to be a friend.
00:52:33It's a shock.
00:52:34I mean, I believe he is guilty, but I still can't come to terms with it.
00:52:38Well, of course, I'd never actually met Davis,
00:52:41so I wanted to see who this person was in the flesh.
00:52:48It was a very old-fashioned courtroom with all the woodwork and the dock
00:52:55and very sort of Victorian looking.
00:53:01I mean, I remember the case going on in bits of news
00:53:05and therefore that was quite shocking to know the man who was sat here
00:53:08singing his heart out on Sunday mornings to all the hymns
00:53:12suddenly was accused of all this, you know, horrific, hideous series of crimes.
00:53:19One of the broadsheets, I can't remember which one,
00:53:21double page spread the story on three quarters of the double spread
00:53:25and then kind of one quarter of the page is an advert for the Rolex watch.
00:53:31I mean, we couldn't believe it.
00:53:32This, you know, obeying, nice, gentle man that it seemed he was.
00:53:38We heard this story which was horrific about what had gone on.
00:53:43So, yes, we were sat there.
00:53:47God smacked, absolutely.
00:53:49During his sensational trial, Exeter Crown Court heard that
00:53:53Albert Walker lured his victim on board the Lady Jane,
00:53:56knocked him unconscious and threw him overboard with an anchor in his belt to weigh him down.
00:54:00Richard Ferguson was defending and he was the defence counsel.
00:54:03He was the Irish guy that defended the Birmingham Six,
00:54:07um, a real, a decent lawyer, you know.
00:54:10Ferguson admitted his client is a liar.
00:54:13Mr. Walker had programmed himself to lie, he said.
00:54:16I am not seeking to justify his behaviour but he's not on trial for telling lies.
00:54:21Detective work is about investigating and about finding the mistake.
00:54:26Very few crimes are committed without a mistake being made.
00:54:30Bought, you need luck and we got it in abundance, we got it in abundance.
00:54:38The search of the boat took place.
00:54:41Inside that is a receipt for an anchor from a local ship chandler down in Brixham.
00:54:48The anchor was one of several purchases made by Walker.
00:54:53This is a jacket that he bought.
00:54:56All the other items were found on his yacht,
00:54:59the Lady Jane, which was moored on a river in Devon.
00:55:02But the anchor was missing.
00:55:05And that prompted an inquiry back with the, um, fisherman.
00:55:15He said, oh yeah, they did find something else in there, an anchor.
00:55:19Oh, what happened to that?
00:55:21Oh, he took it home and his mum took it to a boot store.
00:55:24God.
00:55:25We traced his friend and he informed us that the anchor hadn't been sold at the car boot sale
00:55:30and was stored safely in his mother's garage in Brixham.
00:55:36And there's the anchor, brand new anchor.
00:55:39Significantly too small for his boat.
00:55:43Now that, that then showed the premeditation.
00:55:50They'd found two pieces of the anchor.
00:55:52They'd found two marks on the body that couldn't be explained.
00:55:56Two bruises, one on the hip and one just above the knee.
00:56:00And when you put the anchor alongside the thigh, the two points matched.
00:56:08They then looked at the inside of his belt, the forensic suit,
00:56:12and found traces of zinc from the newly galvanized anchor.
00:56:18So straight away, you think of him fitting Ron with this anchor before throwing him overboard.
00:56:27During the course of the inquiry, in a lockup, was a global positioning system unit,
00:56:32which had come from the Lady Jane boat.
00:56:35This was examined by the company that built the system.
00:56:38And from that, we were able to establish that on or about the 22nd of July, 1996,
00:56:45the Lady Jane was about nine miles off Tynmouth,
00:56:49at the location roughly where Ron Platt had been trawled up by the fishing boat Mulcary.
00:56:56Then the Rolex watch, not only did it provide the identification,
00:57:00it also provided a time of death or time of going in the water.
00:57:05The Rolex fellas were able to say,
00:57:07this watch would have carried on running for so many hours.
00:57:11Put that together with the GPS, it all tied together.
00:57:16Ultimately, the whole inquiry began with the Rolex watch telling us who the victim was.
00:57:23And then at the end of the inquiry, the Rolex watch telling us when,
00:57:28and ultimately where, Ron Platt was killed.
00:57:35I thought the evidence showed, overwhelming evidence, the forensic evidence,
00:57:39extremely convincing.
00:57:41At some point, there was, the press were talking amongst themselves
00:57:45about whether Albert Walker would give evidence.
00:57:50And they were debating, they weren't sure.
00:57:53And I thought, oh, please, please, please give evidence.
00:57:57Please defend yourself.
00:57:59I'd love to see you get on the stand and be questioned,
00:58:02because I was hoping that he would.
00:58:04Because I thought, if he does, hopefully the jury will see through him.
00:58:16Albert Walker was always going to speak.
00:58:18He didn't speak in interview, but he had to speak in the trial
00:58:23if he was to prove his innocence.
00:58:25He'd spent his life defrauding people and lying to people,
00:58:29and he'd become very good at it.
00:58:31And he bet on himself that he could talk and convince 12 people
00:58:39that he was innocent of this crime.
00:58:45Davis was so confident in the dock.
00:58:47He was laughing with the judge and making little jokes,
00:58:51and he was very relaxed.
00:58:54He looked like he was set at home.
00:58:56A glass of water was there, like his glass of port.
00:58:59And he was just David Davis.
00:59:02He was the charming man that I knew.
00:59:04I could see easily how Elaine had been taken in by him.
00:59:08Defense attorney Richard Ferguson asked, point blank,
00:59:12did you kill Ronald Platt?
00:59:14Walker fiercely denied it, breaking down.
00:59:16He sobbed through tears.
00:59:18Ronald Platt was a very nice person,
00:59:20and I have no reason in the world to kill him or ever harm him.
00:59:24Walker tried to be charming, attempting and failing to crack jokes.
00:59:28And even when there were tears, the jury didn't stir.
00:59:31And that's who Walker has to convince,
00:59:34that he may be a crook, but he's no killer.
00:59:39Anybody that knows me would know that I couldn't do something like that.
00:59:43He was a friend of mine.
00:59:45What do you think happened to Ronald Platt?
00:59:46I don't know.
00:59:47I really don't know.
00:59:48I mean, you know, we brought up the issue of, you know,
00:59:52perhaps, you know, he committed suicide.
00:59:54But you just don't know.
01:00:00His daughter, Sheena, with a knapsack on her back,
01:00:02was the surprise witness, barely glancing at her father,
01:00:06calmly admitting she willingly led a double life.
01:00:10When Sheena took to the stand,
01:00:12it was massively anticipated about the exact detail,
01:00:16what she was going to say.
01:00:18Albert Walker's eyes were fixed on his daughter throughout her testimony.
01:00:22But the young woman who once masqueraded as her father's wife,
01:00:25never even looked in his direction.
01:00:27She stood up there, despite the fact that it was her father.
01:00:31She stood up there and told the jury exactly what had happened on that day.
01:00:36And as far as we were concerned, she was truthful and honest,
01:00:39and stood up to her father.
01:00:43And it was vital evidence that she gave.
01:00:46She told court, he had asked me to change my testimony.
01:00:51It was a bombshell.
01:00:52Shocking allegations that Albert Walker
01:00:54tried to get his daughter to change her testimony.
01:00:57As Sheena left the courtroom,
01:00:59Walker couldn't take his eyes off the daughter he once claimed was his wife.
01:01:03I think that he's evil.
01:01:05And I know a lot of people would describe him as a sociopath or a con artist.
01:01:12But for me personally, I think he's evil.
01:01:14Effectively, she was able to provide the real detail
01:01:18that he was out on the boat at that time
01:01:21when Ron Platt was assaulted and thrown into the water
01:01:25and ultimately killed by Walker.
01:01:32At the end of the day, the judge said it had to be unanimous.
01:01:37This has to be unanimous.
01:01:39So I knew then that if one person in that jury felt sorry for him,
01:01:43or thought he hasn't committed murder, he could get away with this.
01:01:47And that was a real fear for me.
01:01:48That was really, really quite strong.
01:01:51Because I thought he could just walk free.
01:02:04I'd gone to one of the local coffee shops and sat in there.
01:02:08And I heard the journalists,
01:02:09because they're all in there chatting amongst themselves.
01:02:11And I heard them say, oh, they've got a verdict.
01:02:13They've got a verdict.
01:02:14The green light's gone on or something like that.
01:02:17So we all rushed down to the courtroom.
01:02:29It was clear from the start the jury didn't believe Albert Walker,
01:02:33didn't believe his tears or his story.
01:02:36After just two hours of deliberating, they found him guilty.
01:02:39As the verdict was being read, Walker showed no emotion, watching impassively.
01:02:45Oh, the verdict, it was unanimous.
01:02:48And it was guilty.
01:02:49And it was like, oh, yes, yes.
01:02:53It was a wonderful feeling, I have to say.
01:03:00I had no doubt in my mind that he had done it, none at all.
01:03:05And to hear that the jury had the same view was wonderful.
01:03:11It really was.
01:03:14Albert Walker is a person who enjoys inflicting that behaviour on other people.
01:03:20He enjoys the power that he perceives he has over other people.
01:03:24And still to this day, you know, Elaine is probably,
01:03:30may be affected by him to that extent.
01:03:33And he'll probably have that hold over her particularly forever,
01:03:36because, of course, he took something very precious away from her.
01:03:40He was looking around, he caught my eye.
01:03:43I caught his eye and he caught my eye.
01:03:45And I tried to stare him out.
01:03:48I thought, I'm going to beat you, you know, I'm stronger than you.
01:03:53I'm going to beat you, mate.
01:03:54Anyway, he stared and he stared and he stared and he beat me.
01:03:58I had to look away.
01:04:00I just couldn't stare any longer, do you know what I mean?
01:04:05He was a man of his word.
01:04:08He was totally controlling, totally coercive in almost everyone he came into contact with.
01:04:15He thought he was the master con man.
01:04:18But ultimately, it turned out he wasn't.
01:04:22I remember talking to friends about it.
01:04:26It was just sort of bizarre.
01:04:30Yeah, the most just incredible story.
01:04:38It was important that we got justice for Ron.
01:04:40It wasn't about nailing Albert Walker for it.
01:04:43It was about finding out what happened to Ron and why it happened to Ron.
01:04:49I think he killed Ron because he was frightened
01:04:54because there was two people with the same name and the same national insurance number.
01:05:01And if Ron had stayed in Canada, he would still be here today.
01:05:37Ron and I used to come here regularly.
01:05:40It was especially good in the winter for the snow.
01:05:43It was like a picture postcard.
01:05:45And we'd walk together hand in hand, walking around the valley gardens.
01:05:51It is a long time ago, but it's still there.
01:05:53The memories are there, you know, they don't disappear.
01:05:57It's like you're frozen in this weird story that you can't really get your head around.
01:06:03Ron wouldn't have ever believed that he could get involved in such a story like this.
01:06:13No, because he's such a quiet man.
01:06:16And so, you know, honest, decent.
01:06:20I still love him and he's still there.
01:06:24He's still with me, I'm sure.
01:06:27I hope so, anyway.
01:06:28Yeah, I think he is.
01:06:29A vulnerable woman abused by the man she loved,
01:06:33new to Channel 5 next night, sleeping with my murderer.

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