さらばのこの本ダレが書いとんねん!2024年10月8日 【最恐】怪談師コンビの奇妙な日常&お肉屋さんでの超絶恐怖体験!

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さらばのこの本ダレが書いとんねん!2024年10月8日 【最恐】怪談師コンビの奇妙な日常&お肉屋さんでの超絶恐怖体験!
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00:00This program is brought to you by DAREGA KAITON NEN, a book club that brings together books from all over the world.
00:17So, where are we starting today?
00:19Today, we are at a book club in Minami Aoyama, Miyatokun, Tokyo.
00:25Wow, that's a lot of people.
00:27Is this a smoking area?
00:30It would be nice if this was a smoking area.
00:32This is where all the people in this building smoke.
00:35We have about 10,000 books from all over the world.
00:41I see.
00:42I wonder if they do it in a place where people can't see.
00:45Was it Aoyama?
00:46Yes.
00:47It's a fashionable place.
00:48Yes, it's a fashionable place, but the books they have are like that, so I don't want people to see them.
00:57In addition to books, we also have books, aromas, cleaning goods, and jewelry.
01:04As an event, we have an online event called Shaman.
01:09Shaman?
01:10Yes, Shaman.
01:11We have an online event called Shaman.
01:15I don't want people to find out that I'm saying that.
01:19That's right.
01:20It's an official event.
01:21By the way, Mr. Tenshi, you've never been hooked on spiritual books, have you?
01:26Why?
01:27Why?
01:28What's wrong?
01:29What do you mean?
01:30You've never been hooked on them, but you've collected books.
01:33That's a curse.
01:35That's right.
01:36Maybe that's what spiritual is.
01:39It's too conceptual.
01:41It's too conceptual, so I don't know.
01:43This is this week's book.
01:45That's exactly what it is.
01:47When you eat with a scary story.
01:49It's Mr. Tanaka.
01:51What's wrong?
01:52He came here before.
01:54Mr. Tanaka, the director.
01:56Isn't it Mr. Toshibo?
01:58Yes, yes.
01:59I've seen it on YouTube.
02:02Was there a script just now?
02:04Isn't it Mr. Toshibo?
02:06It's an essay about the scary experiences and strange days of everyday life of the author, who is also a member of Toshibo.
02:14I've seen it on YouTube.
02:19Is he considered a legend?
02:21But he's the one who's in cahoots with Mr. Tanaka.
02:25I can't trust him yet.
02:27No, no.
02:28Mr. Toshibo
02:30Hello, I'm Yasuhiro Hayase from Toshibo.
02:32You look like you're doing it right.
02:34You look like you're doing it right.
02:35You seem to have more communication skills than Mr. Tanaka.
02:39It's completely different.
02:42What kind of unit is Toshibo?
02:45We're a unit of broadcasters and writers.
02:49It's still going on.
02:51It's a unit where we go to buy and listen to books from overseas.
02:59How many people do you work with?
03:01We're the only two.
03:03Toshibo is the two of you.
03:04The other one is a broadcaster?
03:05Yes, he's Mr. Kishimoto.
03:07I like different things.
03:09I like strange festivals and customs.
03:13He was born and raised in Kabukicho.
03:18He likes conspiracy theories, scary stories, and feudal relations.
03:24You two are the perfect match for this show.
03:29What kind of shows do you have?
03:31I've done a variety show.
03:33I've become a vocalist.
03:35I'm only able to do spiritual things now.
03:39You've become a master of your own business.
03:41Do you have to go that far?
03:44I don't want to go back to the end roll.
03:47Your name is too popular.
03:49Do you talk about conspiracy theories at meetings?
03:54No, I didn't talk about it at all.
03:56I didn't know I was doing this.
03:59Suddenly, my name disappeared from the end roll.
04:02It's not a curse, is it?
04:04No, it's not.
04:05It's not a ghost's doing, is it?
04:07It's a conspiracy theory.
04:09It's not a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy.
04:11It's a conspiracy.
04:13So you've been away from variety shows.
04:15Yes, I've been away from them.
04:17What kind of shows are you doing now?
04:19I'm only doing spiritual things.
04:21For example, I'm doing late-night shows.
04:23I'm also doing special shows on Golden Time.
04:26Oh, you're doing all kinds of shows.
04:30Why did you decide to write this with Mr. Tanaka this time?
04:34We have a lot in common.
04:36For example, we collect relics.
04:38He's a relic, isn't he?
04:40I'm also covering the same place.
04:42I'm focusing on Southeast Asia.
04:44We meet a lot in the media.
04:46We get along well.
04:48So I thought it would be nice to write together.
04:50Oh, I see.
04:51Did you like each other's relics since you knew each other?
04:55Yes, we collect each other's relics.
04:57When we were collecting relics,
05:00there was a claim when we went to an event.
05:03What if we were really cursed?
05:05Oh, you mean if you gave it to us?
05:07It's scary.
05:08If that person goes, we won't go to see it.
05:11Mr. Tanaka said that.
05:12I was told that, too.
05:13We were collecting relics secretly.
05:15We were talking about that kind of problem.
05:18That's a lot of space you're looking for.
05:21That's amazing.
05:22That's right.
05:23After the Jujutsu Kaisen, the word Tokyu Jubutsu was born.
05:27Then, suddenly, I wanted to see it at home.
05:29Everyone was interested.
05:31I thought it was a manga.
05:33Oh, I see.
05:34Now, the world is back on its feet.
05:37There's a little bit of a stair boom.
05:39That's right. There's a stair boom.
05:41What's written in this book?
05:43In other books, the main characters are stairs and Jubutsu.
05:47In this book, the main characters are two people eating rice in a scary story.
05:52It's in the form of an interview.
05:54I put in all the things I think.
05:57For example, I'm not afraid of Jubutsu.
06:00I told you what I was thinking.
06:02I'm working on a one-week schedule.
06:07It's not that detailed.
06:08Which one is it?
06:09Yes, yes, yes.
06:10It's about us.
06:11It's about us.
06:12It's about us.
06:14I want you to know more.
06:16After all, why are you collecting relics?
06:20I get asked a lot.
06:21I put out a book as an answer to that.
06:24You can understand the love of people.
06:26That's right.
06:27Why am I doing this?
06:29It's like a self-made self-sacrifice.
06:31That's right.
06:33So you've been interested in that since you were a kid?
06:35I was interested.
06:36I'm originally from Tsuyama City, Okayama Prefecture.
06:39So you're from Waste Land.
06:40That's right.
06:41That land.
06:42It's that land.
06:43Speaking of Tsuyama, it's that land.
06:45It's that land.
06:46I'm from that place.
06:47I'm from that place.
06:48And I don't know much about Tsuyama.
06:50I'm worshipping kappa.
06:52Is that so?
06:53This?
06:54Yes.
06:55Oh, my.
06:56That's right.
06:57It's a kappa festival.
06:58Hundreds of people walk down a big street and dance.
07:01I've been participating in this since I was a kid.
07:04Was there a legend in Tsuyama?
07:06Like a kappa legend.
07:07Well, a lot of people died in a river.
07:10I thought it might be the work of a kappa.
07:12That's why I started worshipping.
07:14It's like a shrine.
07:16Do you like festivals?
07:17I like festivals.
07:18For example, in Okayama, there's a god.
07:23If you get caught chasing the god, you'll die.
07:26What's that?
07:28It's still going on.
07:29It's still going on?
07:31It's called Goho-sai.
07:33There's a crow in front of Goho.
07:35It runs around.
07:37If you get in the way, you'll get caught.
07:40If you get caught, you'll die within three years.
07:42What's that?
07:44That's still going on.
07:45So there are people who get caught every year?
07:47Not recently.
07:49There are a lot of people who have morals and don't want to do it.
07:53Not recently.
07:54Are there people dressed as crows?
07:56Yes, there is.
07:58They train for a week and dress up as crows.
08:01It depends on the customer's ability.
08:04There are people who can't do it in a week.
08:06There are people who can't do it in a week.
08:09What?
08:10There are people who are good at it.
08:12There's no stimulation.
08:14You go to a place to check it out.
08:16Yes.
08:18You form a unit like a convenience store.
08:20Yes.
08:21There are a lot of people who are good at occult.
08:24It's a military school.
08:26There are a lot of people.
08:27Is that because there are a lot of people who feel business?
08:30There are people who admire people who do occult.
08:34It's a good thing.
08:37But there are more people who don't like it.
08:40What's wrong with this guy?
08:42What's wrong with this guy?
08:44He smells like money.
08:46There are people like that.
08:48That's right.
08:49He is the biggest youkai.
08:51He is.
08:53Hayashi-san, you won a lot of awards at the stairs.
08:57Yes.
08:58You have won many awards.
08:59Yes.
09:00What kind of awards are there?
09:01Inagawa Junji-san won the first place in Japan at the stairs.
09:052017 and 2019.
09:07That's great.
09:08That's great.
09:10It's like a non-style.
09:12M1.
09:13How many people are there?
09:16There is no qualifier.
09:18There is no qualifier?
09:19Five or six people gathered and talked about it.
09:22It was completely different from M1.
09:24We can judge by the amount of laughter.
09:28Did you go?
09:29That's right.
09:30Hayashi-san, what kind of response do you get?
09:34I...
09:35Do you say you're cold?
09:36I'm cold today.
09:38You should be cold.
09:40I thought I won because there was a celebrity I interviewed.
09:46He was interviewed by Inagawa Junji-san.
09:48I said I interviewed him, too.
09:50I won when I was in front of him.
09:53What is that?
09:54It has nothing to do with me.
09:56I said this.
09:57What is that?
09:58Luck is important.
10:00That's right.
10:01I'm not interested in the world of stairs.
10:04I'm not interested in the world of stairs.
10:07Is there a problem with the world of stairs?
10:10I'm not in the industry of stairs.
10:15The main thing is to have a microphone and talk about the stairs.
10:20In my case, I use 20 pictures to talk about the first episode.
10:24It's like a PowerPoint presentation.
10:26It's a presentation.
10:27It's not called a staircase.
10:29It's not called a staircase.
10:30It's like a presentation.
10:31It's like Jinnai-san.
10:34If you use that, it's a pioneer.
10:38There are many events that I can't participate in.
10:40I see.
10:41It doesn't matter.
10:43I think it's okay.
10:44But there are many people who don't like it.
10:48Are there people who want you to talk?
10:54There are people who want me to talk.
11:00There are people who think I don't like you.
11:04There are many people.
11:08But there are people who are afraid of me.
11:12I'm not recognized.
11:15Is that a bad thing?
11:17I think it's a bad thing.
11:20I think it's a bad thing.
11:22First of all, look at this.
11:25It's not good.
11:26It's not good.
11:27It's not good.
11:28It's not good.
11:29I don't think I'm good at talking.
11:32It's like a peach.
11:34That's right.
11:35I won in 2017 and 2019.
11:37At that time, I won just by talking.
11:39In 2018, I talked about a peach.
11:42At that time, I was completely scolded.
11:44I was told that it wasn't a staircase.
11:48I was scolded by my teacher.
11:51I don't like to talk about things.
11:53It's a shame.
11:54It's much easier now.
11:57At that time, there were people who said it wasn't good.
12:01How did you come up with such a scary story?
12:04It's different from other people.
12:06There is a belief in temples and shrines.
12:10There are many things that people want when they gather.
12:18In my case, it's from temples and shrines.
12:21Please listen to me.
12:23That's the best way.
12:25You have to do something about it.
12:26I couldn't pay for it.
12:28Instead, I listen to you when you talk about it.
12:34Are you married now?
12:36Yes, I'm married.
12:37Do you have a wife?
12:39Half and half.
12:41I have a 2-meter-long national costume.
12:45I can't put it in the living room, so I put it on the bed.
12:48That's the worst.
12:50You have to hug it.
12:52We sleep in national costumes.
12:56It's like a blanket.
12:58Is it expensive to live?
13:02It's a national costume.
13:06I was asked to buy it from a museum.
13:11I was asked to buy it because it was cheap.
13:14I bought it.
13:16You have to buy it from a museum.
13:18How much is it?
13:20I don't know.
13:22It's 600,000 yen for 300,000 yen.
13:26It's expensive.
13:28It's as expensive as Armani.
13:30Is it cheap?
13:32It's cheap.
13:34Do you think it's better to keep it?
13:39I've been to a lot of museums.
13:44It's a little dirty.
13:46I want to take a break.
13:48I wanted someone to take care of it.
13:50There were two.
13:52I bought one.
13:54There was something wrong with the warehouse.
13:56There was something wrong with the owner.
13:58I have to buy two.
14:00What was the reason for buying two?
14:04There was no reason.
14:06I bought it because I had to be with you.
14:09It's a sacred object.
14:12It's used as a funeral when the headhunter dies.
14:17It's called a god's body.
14:21If you wear it, you can give it to God.
14:25What is the headhunter?
14:28The headhunter is still alive.
14:34It's still in the world.
14:36It's still out there.
14:38It's still there.
14:46It's still there.
14:48It's still there.
14:50It's still there.
14:52I
15:22Must know K-Thai then what the car must be Mike to car
15:26その
15:27今ある文化に溶け込んでいる首刀族もいるので
15:31いやもういう人に関しては年がたーもうるんですよ
15:36いますめっちゃ怖いや
15:39年形の人たちは何をしたいんですかその普通にあの仕事していいですねいかとしてるんですけど
15:44この人たちが首を刈るのはその攻撃された時だけだって言ってましたね
15:48There's a territory, and you can't come in from there.
15:52I heard that there's a Kubi-Kari tribe,
15:54and they come here and do a lot of bad things,
15:57and you can't show them off.
15:59That's why they got their heads kicked.
16:01What the hell is that?
16:03The rules are as hard as rugby.
16:06What is this?
16:06It's too detailed.
16:14There's a part of him that I can't trust.
16:17I don't think he'll make it on time.
16:18Well, well, well.
16:19I don't think he's allowed to do that.
16:23But there's a part of him that only Tanaka-san goes to,
16:28and there's a ritual that only Tanaka-san goes to.
16:32What is that?
16:33Tanaka-san puts a needle in his body.
16:36The needle is moving inside his body.
16:39It's like, you know,
16:40when a thorn stings you, it goes to your heart.
16:44It's like a time bomb.
16:47What kind of ritual is that?
16:48I think it's a Thai ritual.
16:50What kind of ritual is that?
16:53When a bad thing comes,
16:57the needle stings and hurts.
16:59What is that?
17:00So when a bad person comes,
17:02the needle stings.
17:04Is it like a sensor?
17:07Something like that.
17:08Doesn't the needle tell you what's going to happen?
17:11Sometimes you have to do something,
17:12and if you do that, the needle will pop out and you'll die.
17:17What is that? I'm really curious.
17:19Yeah, I want to shake things up a bit.
17:21I want to attack a good guy.
17:24What would you do if you were to gamble?
17:26Let's go to Pachinko.
17:29He's amazing. He's different.
17:31He uses himself to investigate,
17:34so I really respect that.
17:36Well, well.
17:37He's funny, too.
17:38He's funny.
17:39Why did you want to gamble?
17:42I thought I had to save money when I was gambling,
17:46so I worked at a butcher shop run by my grandmother.
17:49There was a strange old man,
17:51and he taught me how to work.
17:53It was a butcher shop, so I had to close it down.
17:56It was a rural butcher shop.
17:57He told me to bring a chicken and chop off its neck.
18:01But I couldn't do it because I was too scared.
18:03I was 18 or 17 when I was a student,
18:05so I cried.
18:07I was too scared to do it, so I did it.
18:11It was a test.
18:13If I said, I didn't pass,
18:15he would say, you passed.
18:16It's a test of whether you can do it or not.
18:19If you can do it, no matter how long it takes,
18:21you'll pass.
18:23The difference between you and me is
18:25whether you're used to it or not.
18:27It's getting faster, so it's okay.
18:29But I couldn't do it.
18:31I had to change my schedule with him,
18:33and I got a different job in the butcher shop.
18:36When I entered the shop,
18:38we were fighting.
18:40I didn't like it.
18:42He said, you liked scary stories, didn't you?
18:44I said, yes, I did.
18:45Then he took me to the back.
18:47I was checking the stock in the freezer.
18:50When I looked back,
18:52there was an unfamiliar meat.
18:54I was wondering what it was.
18:56He said it was a human meat with only a neck.
19:00Only a neck?
19:02He said it had no arms and legs.
19:05I was surprised.
19:07I went to take a picture,
19:09but when I came back, it was gone.
19:11I said, it was scary.
19:13He said, why?
19:15I said, it was very sharp.
19:17He said he wanted to experience it again.
19:19He cut my arms and legs.
19:23It was really scary.
19:25When I saw it,
19:27I thought I was going to be killed.
19:29So I quit.
19:31After that, when I had to write a book about scary stories in Okayama,
19:35I thought there was a scary story about an old man.
19:38I contacted the butcher.
19:40He said he didn't know because he didn't live in the area.
19:42He told me to search his name.
19:46I searched on Google,
19:48and I was caught by the butcher.
19:50Really?
19:52After that,
19:54I talked about it on a TV program.
19:58The butcher happened to see it.
20:00He said, thank you for advertising.
20:02What are you talking about?
20:04I think he still has it.
20:06That feeling.
20:08He sent me meat.
20:10It's scary.
20:12It's animal meat, right?
20:14It was beef.
20:16What's that?
20:18You can win the prize.
20:20It's not good to be scared of people on the stairs.
20:22You're a coward.
20:24You're a coward.
20:26It's hard to go up the stairs.
20:31What do you want to convey in this book?
20:34I want you to remember that there was such a person.
20:38It's the heaviest word I've ever heard.
20:42What is it?
20:44What is it? It's the heaviest word I've ever heard.
20:46There is.
20:48You want to leave a legacy.
20:50That's right.
20:52The story of the two owners who deal with their belongings.
20:56The owner.
20:58The owner is cursed.
21:00The owner.
21:06Read it quickly.
21:08Before Tanaka's needle explodes.
21:10What are you doing?
21:12It may be destroyed.
21:14If it explodes, it may be recovered.
21:16That's right.
21:18I recommend you read it quickly.
21:20Please subscribe to our channel.

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