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00:00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.

00:00:21Assalamu Alaikum.

00:00:22Welcome to Sawera.

00:00:23I am Sadaf Abdul Jabbar and I have with me Ashfaq Ishaq Sakhi.

00:00:28Before we start today's show, let's talk about the test match.

00:00:34MashaAllah.

00:00:35You were saying that you will score 600 runs.

00:00:38We have scored around 556.

00:00:40Thanks to Salman Ali Agha and the rest who were with him.

00:00:45Saud Shakeel.

00:00:46In the end, Shaheen Shafridi also hit sixes.

00:00:51MashaAllah.

00:00:52Overall, the batting was good.

00:00:53Rizwan couldn't perform.

00:00:55He was out on zero.

00:00:56Then Babur Azam scored 30 runs.

00:00:58Normally, I was happy.

00:01:00Of course, I wasn't happy that he was out.

00:01:02But I was happy that he was always relied on.

00:01:06Even if he didn't perform today, the team showed responsibility.

00:01:09Wow.

00:01:10Ashfaq said what was in his heart.

00:01:11He wanted to say the same thing for a long time.

00:01:14Anyway, we will talk about this openly.

00:01:16Of course, when the game starts today, we will discuss it.

00:01:20But first, let's start our important story.

00:01:23Politics.

00:01:24We have seen a lot of heat in politics.

00:01:28Yesterday, we saw a lot of chaos in the KP Assembly.

00:01:32These are very bad optics for any political party.

00:01:36Especially if there is a two-thirds majority.

00:01:38But the whole issue is about the amendment.

00:01:43The amendment that all the parties are talking about.

00:01:46You are saying that we have prepared a competition.

00:01:49But let's talk about their input and participation.

00:01:54Chairman People's Party Bilawal Bhutto says that the government wants...

00:01:58Earlier, he said that the amendment should be done before 25th October.

00:02:03Now, he says that the government wants the amendment to be done before 25th October.

00:02:08And for the amendment, the people's party wants the consent of the political parties.

00:02:15How will this happen?

00:02:16This cannot happen without Maulana Sahib.

00:02:19Even today, he says that our doors are open for PTI.

00:02:23He also says that PTI wants to put a hurdle in the judicial system.

00:02:29Chairman PTI Barrister Gauhar says that our people will not be caught for the amendment.

00:02:35And somehow, I don't doubt that.

00:02:37Because during the protest, I saw that no one was seen.

00:02:43So, they were playing safe.

00:02:45That if they go out, they will be arrested.

00:02:47So, they will not be caught.

00:02:48I am talking about the elected members of the parliament.

00:02:52He also says that even the people of the government will not vote for the amendment.

00:02:57Salman Akram Raja says that there is no need for a judicial system.

00:03:01PTI is against the amendment.

00:03:05All the amendments that have been made in this country...

00:03:0717th amendment, 18th amendment, 21st amendment, 25th amendment...

00:03:10You tell me, which government has amended and has a two-third majority?

00:03:15There was no special committee, it was made for the parliamentarians.

00:03:18We talked about it for a day.

00:03:20We asked, what did you do on Saturday?

00:03:24Is there a constitutional amendment coming tomorrow?

00:03:26People are saying.

00:03:27Mr. Ishaq Dar said, no, it is not coming tomorrow.

00:03:29One more thing.

00:03:30The government is being misunderstood.

00:03:31When they call for voting, but their own people...

00:03:35In which KP's MNA is also included.

00:03:37And here in Punjab too.

00:03:38We will not vote for this constitution.

00:03:40Have you hidden your people in KP?

00:03:42Our people, Alhamdulillah, are safe and secure.

00:03:44Our people will not be caught.

00:03:46Let me tell you that on the matter of constitutional court...

00:03:50The government and Maulana Fazlur Rehman have come to an agreement.

00:03:54There has been an agreement on various amendments.

00:03:56However, the leader of the JIO, Rashid Somro, is refuting this.

00:03:59He says that in Nawaz Maulana's meeting...

00:04:02There was no discussion on the constitutional amendment.

00:04:04He was also discussing it in the program Of The Record.

00:04:07And he is a supporter of constitutional amendments.

00:04:09If there is no conflict with the public interest in those constitutional amendments...

00:04:12Then we will agree with him.

00:04:15There is news that there is no truth in this.

00:04:19There was no discussion of any other matter in the meeting.

00:04:23Constitutional bill, constitutional amendment, government, opposition...

00:04:27Coming and going to the government...

00:04:29Nothing was discussed.

00:04:31They have asked for each other's well-being.

00:04:33After a long time, Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif and Mr. Maulana met.

00:04:36JIO is a supporter of constitutional amendments.

00:04:40JIO is working on it now.

00:04:42People's Party's lawyers are working on it.

00:04:44JIO has no objection to constitutional amendments.

00:04:47If there is a bill that does not violate the constitution...

00:04:51Does not conflict with the public interest...

00:04:53Does not conflict with human rights...

00:04:55Then JIO has no objection to it.

00:04:58Okay, let's talk about this.

00:05:00But there is a statement from Mr. Ayaz Sadiq.

00:05:03He has basically written a letter to the Election Commission.

00:05:06On the request of the parliamentary leaders.

00:05:08And then it is said that after the approval of the Election Act...

00:05:11Special sessions should be decided.

00:05:13Let's talk about this.

00:05:15We have with us the Vice-Chairman of the Pakistan Bar Council...

00:05:18Mr. Farooq Aishnaik, who is also the leader of the Pakistan People's Party.

00:05:21Thank you very much, Mr. Aishnaik.

00:05:23And a very good morning to you.

00:05:25First, let me talk about the deadline for constitutional amendments.

00:05:30The date of 25th October.

00:05:32It was very important for everyone.

00:05:34Mr. Bilawal says that this is a matter of the government.

00:05:37The government wants it to be done soon.

00:05:39It should be done soon.

00:05:41Earlier, the People's Party also wanted it to be done soon.

00:05:43Is the mindset of both the parties changing?

00:05:46And is there a new stance of your party?

00:05:48As far as the party is concerned...

00:05:51Mr. Bilawal, who is the Chairman of the People's Party...

00:05:55He is the best spokesperson to shed light on this.

00:05:59These constitutional amendments...

00:06:02The 26 constitutional amendments, as we call them...

00:06:05They will come by the 25th, or after the 25th, or before the 25th.

00:06:09The basic question is...

00:06:11As long as there is no agreement on these amendments...

00:06:16I think it will be difficult to bring these constitutional amendments to the Parliament.

00:06:23And that includes PTI as well?

00:06:25No, not PTI.

00:06:27PTI is the opposition.

00:06:29But if the government agrees to it...

00:06:33I think the number game will be completed.

00:06:37But it is up to Mr. Maulana...

00:06:39What is his problem?

00:06:41What are his reservations?

00:06:43Only Mr. Maulana or his team can tell us about this.

00:06:46Let's talk about the Senate.

00:06:49Shibli Faraz says that there is no representation of KP in the Senate.

00:06:54Everyone knows what the issue is.

00:06:56There is no representative.

00:06:57So how can the constitutional amendments be passed?

00:06:59Please explain to us...

00:07:01If there is such a situation...

00:07:03Can the constitutional amendments be passed by the Senate?

00:07:06As far as the constitutional amendments are concerned...

00:07:09If you look at Article 238 and Article 239...

00:07:12You need two-thirds of the total membership of the House.

00:07:16The Senate currently has a total of 96 members.

00:07:20If two-thirds vote in favour of the amendments...

00:07:25The amendments will be passed.

00:07:27Even if there is no representation of KP in the Senate?

00:07:30As far as the relationship is concerned...

00:07:32As you said about the province...

00:07:34There are some people from there.

00:07:36There are some people and some people are not there yet.

00:07:38Because of the reserved seats...

00:07:40This problem has arisen.

00:07:42But the Constitution also says that the House is not incomplete...

00:07:46If some seats are vacant.

00:07:48So I think this can be a political statement.

00:07:52But legally...

00:07:54There is no force in this statement.

00:07:59Because the Parliament and the Senate are not compartmentalised.

00:08:03If the members are from here, then they will be complete.

00:08:05If they are from there, then they will be complete.

00:08:07This has never happened before.

00:08:09But it is a political statement.

00:08:11Now please tell us...

00:08:13The federal court case...

00:08:17You had already given your point of view on this.

00:08:19What is the position of the Pakistan Bar Council on this?

00:08:23This is a constitutional matter.

00:08:25We have already discussed the matter of transparency.

00:08:27We had discussed this with you.

00:08:29The real thing is that the matter is of transparency.

00:08:31Transparency should be ensured.

00:08:33Who will ensure the transparency of the federal court?

00:08:35What does the Pakistan Bar Council want?

00:08:37What do they think?

00:08:39As far as transparency is concerned...

00:08:41The draft that the Law Minister gave me in the Lawyers' Convention...

00:08:45It was a draft of the government.

00:08:49Our Executive Committee of the Pakistan Bar Council...

00:08:54We have proposed a lot of amendments to the government.

00:08:58If you want to pass this...

00:09:00The right of the Pakistan Bar Council Constitutional Court...

00:09:04It should be there.

00:09:06The country needs it.

00:09:08But we have given amendments to it.

00:09:10As far as the relationship is concerned...

00:09:12As far as their appointments are concerned...

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00:13:34And with the name of justice,

00:13:36Such as we write...

00:13:42So then the same word is also used there too?

00:13:54Ok.

00:13:55Ok.

00:13:57So will the judiciary be covered in the pending case?

00:14:01So will the judiciary be covered in the pending case?

00:14:03This is a very good question, the thing is that it depends only on the judges, that is why we are keeping this in mind that the judges who will be appointed will be evaluated, the Judicial Commission will evaluate their performance and their conduct on the court will also be looked at.

00:14:29Keeping all these things in mind, if their performance is not good, then a recommendation can be made to remove them.

00:14:36Because if you look at it, as long as this lock remains in place, as long as Bukla and the court are the two wheels of the same chariot, as long as they do not work together, the cases will not end.

00:14:51To end the case, it is also very important that our laws have become dull.

00:14:59Our Law and Justice Commission of Pakistan is not fully working on this.

00:15:05It is time to change the composition of the Law and Justice Commission of Pakistan.

00:15:11So that all the laws that are in the modern era, the digital era, should be changed accordingly.

00:15:19So that people should have all these things online.

00:15:22So that the common man does not have to suffer.

00:15:26The case should be postponed and the time for the case should be adjusted.

00:15:30So that if the judge does not do it, then the process of evaluation should be brought and monitored.

00:15:37So that the judges also know that we also have this right.

00:15:40So Mr. Farooq, this is also a very important point.

00:15:43It was also suggested that the court should be for every province.

00:15:48There was also an opinion on this.

00:15:49The second thing is that we had discussed this with you before.

00:15:53And I had told you that this lower judiciary should also be looked at.

00:15:58And the way you said that the High Court normally monitors the cases in the Session Courts.

00:16:04And then the Session Judge monitors the cases in the Civil Courts.

00:16:07Is that process working in your opinion?

00:16:10Or if it is inactive, then what has been thought about it?

00:16:13I am trying to understand.

00:16:14You see, the High Court gives permission to the Superintendent of the Subordinate Judiciary.

00:16:23When he has the power, the High Court has its own committee.

00:16:28The head of which is the Chief Justice of the province and other senior members.

00:16:33It is their duty to monitor the performance of all the judges keeping in mind this rule of the law.

00:16:42And warn them if they are not doing the right thing.

00:16:46Within a month, see how many judgments they have disposed off on merit.

00:16:51How satisfied they are or not.

00:16:55To see all these things and the rules of the law that I have told you.

00:17:00You will not change them.

00:17:02And if the Chief Justices of the Provincial Courts do not monitor the Judiciary in their Subordinate Judiciary in a proactive manner,

00:17:10then the pain of the people will not end.

00:17:13Why has this not happened till now?

00:17:16Basically, let me tell you one thing.

00:17:18All the problems that you face in your life, it is the problem of implementation of the laws and policies.

00:17:28Laws are made, but they are not implemented.

00:17:31Till the implementation is not in letter and spirit, it will not be in accordance with the spirit of the law.

00:17:38I think this case...

00:17:40Mr. Farooz, one last thing that I wanted to know.

00:17:43What you are saying that it is their authority to see this.

00:17:47Till now, it is not seen that it is being seen or this is being seen.

00:17:51And then when these people elevate and go to the Superior Judiciary,

00:17:54then why should we expect justice from them?

00:17:57Or how should we expect that they will go up and keep the monitoring system up, which they did not do at the lower level?

00:18:03Look, we can hope.

00:18:06And that is why we are putting this Shikha, which you have proposed,

00:18:11that all the judges of the High Court and the judges of the Supreme Court of the Superior Court should be evaluated.

00:18:17And the rest of the Subordinate Judiciary, the law has allowed the High Court.

00:18:23If the High Court does not monitor them, then who will you blame?

00:18:28Sahil is worried.

00:18:30There is a woman, there is a man, there are small cases.

00:18:33I see that it is a case of custody of child.

00:18:35It takes years.

00:18:37And the children grow up, there is no decision.

00:18:39Now you see, a child is neither with the mother nor with the father.

00:18:43He cries.

00:18:44Look at his mental condition.

00:18:47And the woman is a divorce case.

00:18:49Divorce is not complete, it is not quick.

00:18:51Keeping all these things in mind, I call it beneficial legislation.

00:18:56We should pay attention to these beneficial legislations.

00:18:59It should be exactly like this.

00:19:00And the Parliament.

00:19:02Look, now the problem is that what is said after the 18th term,

00:19:06which is not in the legislative list,

00:19:10the provinces have to do it.

00:19:12Because autonomy has been given.

00:19:14Now it is the job of the provinces to make these laws.

00:19:17And make it such that a common person, a woman and a man,

00:19:22benefit from these beneficial legislations.

00:19:25It should be beneficial for a common citizen too.

00:19:27And of course, the problems should be solved by Sahil.

00:19:29Thank you so much, Farooq-e-Chanayek.

00:19:32Now this is a very long debate,

00:19:34what should be done and what should not be done.

00:19:36And how much will it change.

00:19:38And your lower judiciary has more problems there.

00:19:41Those issues should be addressed more so that

00:19:43the common man can benefit.

00:19:45Sahil-e-Chanayek, you were saying that the amendments come,

00:19:47then they are revised.

00:19:48Then you keep making changes.

00:19:50But once they come, then implementation starts.

00:19:53Okay.

00:19:54When we are talking,

00:19:55the ones who bring these amendments are our esteemed members of the Assembly.

00:19:59But when we see such scenes,

00:20:01it is very surprising that people elect them with high hopes.

00:20:05And when they reach the Assembly,

00:20:07there is more debate on politics.

00:20:10Old matters are being discussed.

00:20:12Accusations are being raised against each other.

00:20:14People's issues are being discussed.

00:20:16Legislation is being reduced in that regard.

00:20:18We saw similar scenes in the KP Assembly.

00:20:20When there was a situation of violence there.

00:20:23And there was a severe uproar.

00:20:25The scenes you are seeing,

00:20:26if you say that it has become a battlefield,

00:20:28then it will not be wrong.

00:20:29Absolutely.

00:20:30Flying kicks were kicked.

00:20:32This was the first kick.

00:20:34Although they had support,

00:20:35but despite that,

00:20:36it did not hit properly.

00:20:38The other gentlemen,

00:20:39they caught the kick and dropped it.

00:20:41And then the rest came along.

00:20:43They started presenting the scene of the fish market.

00:20:45It seemed as if they were seeing these scenes

00:20:47at some corner of the city.

00:20:49And you see,

00:20:51this was the only time when I felt

00:20:53that people are being represented in the right way.

00:20:56The kind of things that people do on the streets,

00:20:58they are doing in the Assembly.

00:21:00You see,

00:21:01when we see all these scenes of the KP Assembly,

00:21:05it was also said that

00:21:07MP Iqbal Wazir of PGI Parliamentarian

00:21:10accused MP Iqbal Wazir of bribing MP Iqbal Wazir

00:21:15for appointing an officer.

00:21:17And he has evidence.

00:21:18So, this fight started.

00:21:20After the break,

00:21:21the words were used.

00:21:23Then the words of agreement came in front of each other.

00:21:26And then you see,

00:21:27this is the scene of kicking.

00:21:29It seems as if they did not kick,

00:21:31but held it.

00:21:32And by holding it,

00:21:33taking full advantage of it,

00:21:34they made it landless.

00:21:36That is why it is said that fitness is important.

00:21:38Because they must have thought that

00:21:39who knows how far the kick will reach.

00:21:41The kick did not support them.

00:21:42But this is unfortunate.

00:21:44This is very unfortunate.

00:21:45This is unfortunate.

00:21:46This is fun.

00:21:51All of them are testing each other at the stake

00:21:53of our Al Qaana Assembly.

00:21:55I mean,

00:21:56all the skills,

00:21:57you can see the tactics in this.

00:21:59Look at this,

00:22:00the brother who came running from behind,

00:22:01it seems he watches MMA a lot.

00:22:02He jumped and hit a hammer fist.

00:22:03I was just commenting on this.

00:22:04Because you know.

00:22:05They hit a hammer fist like this,

00:22:07and when the opponent is down,

00:22:09then the solution to the public problem is in its place.

00:22:11But this Dhinga Mushti,

00:22:12and this wrestling,

00:22:13is in its place.

00:22:14And the taxpayer's money,

00:22:15is used for these gatherings.

00:22:17After that,

00:22:18you can see.

00:22:19In the right sense,

00:22:20public representation.

00:22:21This is called public representation.

00:22:23Let's take a break.

00:22:24Let's take a break.

00:22:25We will come after the break.

00:22:32Welcome back once again.

00:22:34And the people of Karachi,

00:22:36you have a lot of problems.

00:22:37And the solution to those problems

00:22:39is not visible.

00:22:40But there is another problem

00:22:41associated with those problems.

00:22:43And that is,

00:22:44the cars of the people of Karachi,

00:22:45motorcycles,

00:22:46bikes.

00:22:47They are snatched from the circulation.

00:22:48They are snatched from the circulation.

00:22:49There are also thefts.

00:22:50And then we are told,

00:22:51in big cities,

00:22:52there are such small things.

00:22:53Although,

00:22:54for a citizen,

00:22:55it is not a small thing at all.

00:22:56Crime rate should be low.

00:22:57Anyway,

00:22:58these stolen cars,

00:23:00and motorcycles,

00:23:01have been discovered

00:23:02to be from garbage cans.

00:23:05Assume that,

00:23:06and their remains are found.

00:23:09That is,

00:23:10after killing them,

00:23:11those bikes,

00:23:12the purpose of killing them is

00:23:13that after destroying them,

00:23:14the useful things,

00:23:15obviously,

00:23:16are distributed.

00:23:17They go to different areas.

00:23:19Because it is a little difficult

00:23:20to take their bikes.

00:23:21But in Pakistan,

00:23:22everything is possible.

00:23:23There are many such roads

00:23:24from where their bikes can go,

00:23:25etc.

00:23:26But still,

00:23:27while being careful,

00:23:28destroying them,

00:23:29after that,

00:23:30the remains are said,

00:23:31now what are we going to do with them?

00:23:32There are more than 40,000 motorcycles

00:23:33in 9 states.

00:23:3440,000?

00:23:35Imagine.

00:23:369 or 36,

00:23:37that is,

00:23:38every month,

00:23:39about 3,500 bikes

00:23:40are being stolen.

00:23:41Yes.

00:23:42So, Nazir Shah,

00:23:43in this regard,

00:23:44is telling us more

00:23:45that where,

00:23:46from which area of Sadar,

00:23:47these remains

00:23:48of bikes

00:23:49have been recovered

00:23:50from garbage cans.

00:23:51Right now,

00:23:52I am in the area of Sadar,

00:23:53and in my background,

00:23:54you can see,

00:23:55this is a garbage can.

00:23:56In Karachi,

00:23:57during the 10th month

00:23:58of the year,

00:23:59more than 40,000 motorcycles

00:24:00have been stolen.

00:24:02Here,

00:24:03you can see

00:24:04the bikes.

00:24:05First,

00:24:06they are intact,

00:24:07but later,

00:24:08you can see that

00:24:09their chassis is also present.

00:24:10About 4 to 5

00:24:11motorcycles are here.

00:24:12The bikes of the Karachi

00:24:13citizens are also

00:24:14stolen.

00:24:15They are also

00:24:16snatched.

00:24:17Some are exported

00:24:18to other provinces

00:24:19or cities,

00:24:20and people drive them.

00:24:21But some,

00:24:22which are disposed

00:24:23of in Karachi,

00:24:24what happens

00:24:25to them,

00:24:26today,

00:24:27they have gone

00:24:28to the mountains

00:24:29in front of us.

00:24:30Here,

00:24:31we can see a citizen.

00:24:32I have been seeing this

00:24:33for the past two months.

00:24:34First,

00:24:35there were two,

00:24:36then four.

00:24:37And after four,

00:24:38only their spare parts

00:24:39were taken out

00:24:40and people took them.

00:24:41I don't understand

00:24:42anything.

00:24:43The police van

00:24:44comes here every day.

00:24:45They also see it

00:24:46and leave.

00:24:47Nobody cares.

00:24:48There are so many

00:24:49motorcycles lying here.

00:24:50Who brings them?

00:24:51The garbage men,

00:24:52who do drugs.

00:24:53Then they bring

00:24:54someone from there.

00:24:55They open

00:24:56all the stuff

00:24:57and sell it.

00:24:58Some shopkeepers

00:24:59are also involved.

00:25:00Here,

00:25:01motorcycles are

00:25:02first brought

00:25:03and thrown here.

00:25:04Then,

00:25:05they are taken out

00:25:06one by one.

00:25:07In the end,

00:25:08the chassis is left

00:25:09which is of no use.

00:25:10So,

00:25:11they throw it

00:25:12here.

00:25:13A citizen of Karachi

00:25:14who has left

00:25:15the chassis

00:25:16or has a number

00:25:17on the engine,

00:25:18he comes and

00:25:19identifies his bike

00:25:20and asks

00:25:21if his motorcycle

00:25:22was stolen

00:25:23or not.

00:25:24If his motorcycle

00:25:25is in the garbage bin

00:25:26like this.

00:25:27Imagine

00:25:28that this is the situation.

00:25:29Bikes are stolen

00:25:30and discarded

00:25:31like this.

00:25:32There is no CCTV camera

00:25:33installed in the garbage bin.

00:25:34You can see

00:25:35who is leaving it.

00:25:36This is innocence.

00:25:37It is not installed

00:25:38in the airport.

00:25:39I was going to ask

00:25:40who is coming

00:25:41and throwing it

00:25:42in the garbage bin.

00:25:43But I am surprised

00:25:44that you…

00:25:45This is the job of the police

00:25:46to keep an eye

00:25:47everywhere.

00:25:48That is why

00:25:49they trust the police.

00:25:50One gentleman

00:25:51was passing by

00:25:52and asked

00:25:53how the police

00:25:54comes here

00:25:55but no one

00:25:56pays attention.

00:25:57Okay,

00:25:58you think

00:25:59that

00:26:00each and every

00:26:01bike is worth

00:26:02lakhs of rupees.

00:26:03It is not a

00:26:04small thing.

00:26:05If it is

00:26:06stolen

00:26:07and then

00:26:08discarded,

00:26:09what is left

00:26:10then?

00:26:11What is left?

00:26:12When there is

00:26:13so much

00:26:14inflation,

00:26:15when you

00:26:16get news

00:26:17about the

00:26:18economy,

00:26:19you get

00:26:20concerned

00:26:21that the

00:26:22country's

00:26:23loans have

00:26:24reached

00:26:25the highest

00:26:26level.

00:26:27Private loans

00:26:28are around

00:26:292.5 to

00:26:303 lakhs.

00:26:31Now

00:26:32think

00:26:33that

00:26:34the

00:26:35loans

00:26:36taken

00:26:37by the

00:26:38government

00:26:39have

00:26:40broken

00:26:41records.

00:26:42And

00:26:43the

00:26:44fear is

00:26:45that

00:26:46if the

00:26:47situation

00:26:48in the

00:26:49Middle

00:26:50East

00:26:51gets

00:26:52worse,

00:26:53the

00:26:54oil

00:26:55prices

00:26:56will

00:26:57rise.

00:26:58Imagine

00:26:59that.

00:27:00What can

00:27:01happen?

00:27:02This

00:27:03is a

00:27:04strange

00:27:05situation.

00:27:06How can

00:27:07we manage

00:27:08it?

00:27:09We have

00:27:10with us

00:27:11the

00:27:12economist

00:27:13Mr.

00:27:14Hakan

00:27:15Najib.

00:27:16Mr.

00:27:17Hakan

00:27:18Najib,

00:27:19good

00:27:20morning

00:27:21to you

00:27:22sir.

00:27:23This

00:27:24is a

00:27:25mountain

00:27:26that

00:27:27we

00:27:28have

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00:51:29Good morning to you, Bilal Azarqiani, for joining us today.

00:51:34First of all, please tell us, how did CMKP succeed in getting out of KP House?

00:51:42What were the circumstances?

00:51:4412 years.

00:51:45Yes, and he thought he would be arrested, but he was not.

00:51:49So, how believable do you think his story is?

00:51:52Because a lot of people are raising questions about it.

00:51:54Bismillah-e-Rahman-e-Rahim.

00:51:59Sadaf Sahiba, Ishfaq Sahib, thank you for having me on your morning show.

00:52:03Look, the thing is, Gandapur Sahib has given speeches in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly for the past two days.

00:52:12And frankly, he is still trying to convince his Jamaat colleagues.

00:52:18So, first convince them, then we will talk.

00:52:21Secondly, look,

00:52:23One thing, one thing.

00:52:25Bilal sahib, I am adding a bit of ground truth to this.

00:52:28You are saying to convince your Jamaat.

00:52:31Barrister Gauhar sahib, after sitting for a long time in Kashif sahib's show,

00:52:36told this story that, yes, this is what happened.

00:52:42What else can Gauhar sahib say?

00:52:45What else can he say? No, he is wrong.

00:52:48He will come in front and say this.

00:52:50Look, the rest of the contradictions are in front of everyone.

00:52:53But look, this is not the news.

00:52:56For me, this show has become too much.

00:52:59Now, if they have been given the responsibility to create a ruckus on Imran Khan sahib's aima every day,

00:53:05instead of focusing on Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's governance, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's law and order issues,

00:53:11they will continue to create such shows because their job depends on it.

00:53:15And look, we are not a nation that can tolerate this daily show.

00:53:21Now look, there is a wave of terrorism in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

00:53:24Recent incidents are very sad.

00:53:27Whether it is in Waziristan or in Bannu,

00:53:30if there is no attention there, then we say that you should compete politically.

00:53:35You should compete on governance.

00:53:37You should look at your province.

00:53:39You should focus on health and education, law and order.

00:53:42And you should compete with these provinces.

00:53:44The people deserve this.

00:53:46And this show has become too much.

00:53:48And the thing is that they really have a problem with this.

00:53:53Now, the economy is recovering.

00:53:58Foreign dignitaries are coming forward.

00:54:01They think that if these things get better, then their relevance will end.

00:54:07So, this is their fundamental issue now.

00:54:11And this is why they want to try again and again to destabilize things.

00:54:15So, now tell us how will the government look at this?

00:54:18First of all, the SCO meeting is about to start.

00:54:21Obviously, security will be beefed up for that.

00:54:24Then again, Mr. Gandapur is saying that the line has been disconnected.

00:54:28We will try to connect him again.

00:54:30If there is a connection, so that we can ask more questions to him.

00:54:34But one thing is that there was an interesting point that Mr. Rauf Klasra raised one day.

00:54:39He said that this is about Barrister Gauhar.

00:54:44Once he was asked a question from Khwaja Saad Rafiq.

00:54:49He asked him to talk about Hamza Shahbaz.

00:54:53He said that he is not translating what he said.

00:54:56So, Barrister Gauhar could have done the same.

00:54:59Mr. Bilal is with us.

00:55:00Mr. Bilal is with us.

00:55:01Mr. Bilal, we are talking about the responsibility of diplomacy.

00:55:04He is saying to come again.

00:55:06We know how important this week is.

00:55:09The other allegations he is making.

00:55:11He is saying that there was a breakdown.

00:55:13There was an attack on KP House.

00:55:14I was tried to be arrested.

00:55:16And that is why this whole situation was created.

00:55:19Vifakh attacked the province.

00:55:21Remove Islamabad.

00:55:22So, how much do these allegations matter to you?

00:55:25And when a province is making an allegation, obviously, it will have some importance.

00:55:31Look, it is not a province.

00:55:34A person like Imran Khan.

00:55:37I don't know what he is.

00:55:39If you put him under KPCM.

00:55:41And he repeatedly misuses his power.

00:55:45And talks like this.

00:55:47He attacks the Punjab Police.

00:55:49He attacks the Islamabad Police.

00:55:51In this so-called protest, 80 to 85 policemen were tortured.

00:55:57You saw that Afghan nationals were also caught in it.

00:56:01The other people who were arrested.

00:56:03And if you use these powers again and again.

00:56:05Then the country cannot run on your demands.

00:56:08So look, he wants this show and attention.

00:56:11Ali Amin Ghannapur, what else can he do?

00:56:13He will come to you and talk about the constitution.

00:56:15He will come to you and talk about nationalism.

00:56:17He will come to you and talk about how to improve governance.

00:56:19Whatever work he knows, he will pick it up.

00:56:21Sometimes he picked up a gun.

00:56:22Sometimes he picked up a Kalashnikov.

00:56:23Sometimes he picked up an ax.

00:56:24Sometimes he picked up a stone.

00:56:25Imran Khan has appointed him for this work.

00:56:27But the country cannot run on his demands.

00:56:30So look, the fundamental thing is that...

00:56:32But how would you deal with it?

00:56:33Now we are protesting.

00:56:34Now we are doing this.

00:56:35Their fundamental agenda is to release Imran Khan.

00:56:37Release him in the case of £190 million.

00:56:40Release him in the crimes of 9th May.

00:56:42Release him in Tosha Khana.

00:56:43The real meaning of everything is this.

00:56:45Imran Khan has sent him for this work.

00:56:47He wants to somehow give us a clean chit of our crimes.

00:56:52He does not want this.

00:56:53You have to work on national issues.

00:56:55You have to talk in the parliament.

00:56:56We are present outside the parliament.

00:56:58Two days ago, you saw that their ego, their community is so short-sighted...

00:57:03...that they boycotted the All Parties Conference on an issue like Palestine.

00:57:07There were other opposition communities there...

00:57:09...who may not agree with us on many things.

00:57:12For example, Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, Jamaat-e-Islami.

00:57:14We agree on other issues.

00:57:16We do not agree on others.

00:57:17But even in those communities, there was at least such maturity...

00:57:20...that everyone should come together on the issue of Palestine.

00:57:22They boycotted that too.

00:57:24Tell me one thing, how would you deal with that?

00:57:28Because on one hand, we see that they give statements.

00:57:32You say that we will not let them come.

00:57:34We will do this, we will do that.

00:57:35If they come, then we can take them under custody.

00:57:38Such statements were also made.

00:57:40Then as soon as they come to Islamabad...

00:57:42...they go to the side of Margala with their protocol.

00:57:45They had full access there too.

00:57:47In such a highly guarded area.

00:57:49Then they reach the KP house.

00:57:51They stay there.

00:57:52Then they are successful in getting out of there.

00:57:54And the federal government is giving clarifications...

00:57:56...that we did not arrest them.

00:57:57Then they are releasing videos.

00:57:58And they also reach the KP assembly.

00:58:00So how are these things happening?

00:58:02How is this possible?

00:58:04Look, Mr. Ashfaq, I...

00:58:06Look, the thing is that I...

00:58:10Maybe I am agreeing with you on the fact that...

00:58:13...this drama cannot go on any longer.

00:58:16And now whoever...

00:58:18Okay, they are the KPCM.

00:58:20But if you are the KPCM...

00:58:22...and break the law every day...

00:58:24...then you should be with the person who breaks the law...

00:58:26...who should be with the person who breaks any law.

00:58:28You cannot be treated as a judge...

00:58:30...that you use him as a shield in your office...

00:58:32...for this misbehavior.

00:58:34Look, the rest of the government...

00:58:36...is not our main focus.

00:58:38If they misbehave...

00:58:40...then the government has to continue its work.

00:58:42There is the SCO summit.

00:58:43There is the economic reform.

00:58:44There are power sector reforms.

00:58:45There are FVR reforms.

00:58:46There is a lack of inflation.

00:58:47There is a lack of inflation.

00:58:48In Punjab, there is a lack of health, education...

00:58:50...and other things.

00:58:51The SCO is working in Punjab.

00:58:53We will continue our work.

00:58:55If they say no, no work will stop.

00:58:57If they say no, no work will stop.

00:58:58In continuing this work...

00:58:59...should we consider the economic reform as well?

00:59:01It will continue.

00:59:02There is a process of consultation.

00:59:04Because the faster it will go on...

00:59:06...my guess is that...

00:59:08...the faster it will go on in the protest against PTI.

00:59:11So, will you keep it after the SCO...

00:59:14...or will you try to do it before that?

00:59:18As you can see, the work is being done on memes.

00:59:21The main parties involved in this...

00:59:24...are all actively working on this.

00:59:27PMLN, People's Party, JUIF are all involved.

00:59:30So, that effort is going on independently.

00:59:33There is no bearing on the protest against PTI.

00:59:37They don't want to do everything.

00:59:39If you ask them to drink a glass of water...

00:59:41...they will say no.

00:59:42If you ask them to drink a glass of water...

00:59:44...they will say no.

00:59:45They don't want to do everything.

00:59:47They don't have a counter-proposal.

00:59:49They don't have a logic.

00:59:50If we propose, they have to say no.

00:59:52We want them to be serious about these things.

00:59:55But if they don't come...

00:59:56...then nothing can be stopped because of them.

00:59:58Whenever there is a consensus in Parliament...

01:00:01...in the National Assembly...

01:00:03...and in the Senate...

01:00:06...a Constitutional Amendment package...

01:00:08...will be brought to Parliament.

01:00:10Efforts are going on for that.

01:00:12Drafts are being shared.

01:00:13Discussions are going on...

01:00:15...between the main parties.

01:00:17So, that effort is going on.

01:00:19Whenever there is a consensus...

01:00:21...we will do it.

01:00:24Thank you so much, Bilal Azhar Qayyani...

01:00:26...for being with us.

01:00:27The leader of the Muslim League.

01:00:29He was chatting with us.

01:00:31Let's see what happens next.

01:00:34We say this in everything.

01:00:36Let's see what happens next.

01:00:37Everything is to be continued.

01:00:42Everything is to be continued.

01:00:44That's why we face these issues again and again.

01:00:48Let's talk about the Multan test.

01:00:50There is a lot of politics now.

01:00:51We have already talked about the Multan test.

01:00:53We are doing it again.

01:00:54It is happening that...

01:00:55...we are talking about Joe Root.

01:00:57We are talking about Joe Root of IWISH.

01:00:59We are not betting.

01:01:01He is on the crease now.

01:01:04Zach Crawley is also batting at 78 runs.

01:01:09We have a slow wicket.

01:01:13By the grace of God...

01:01:16...we have lost another wicket.

01:01:18He played a shot.

01:01:20Straight.

01:01:21Great.

01:01:22The ball had fallen.

01:01:25But in the second attempt...

01:01:28...Shaheen Shafri has taken the wicket.

01:01:32He is out.

01:01:34Whose wicket has fallen?

01:01:36I think it is Crawley's wicket.

01:01:39Crawley is out with 78 runs.

01:01:42He was receiving the fours.

01:01:44Both the catches were made by Aamir Jamal.

01:01:47The first catch of Ollipop...

01:01:50...was a great catch by Aamir Jamal.

01:01:54We will show you the second catch in a while.

01:01:58What a great catch.

01:02:01This was the breakthrough we needed.

01:02:04They were looking threatening.

01:02:06Crawley was going towards his century.

01:02:08Ollipop came because...

01:02:10...one of the players got injured.

01:02:13He promoted himself.

01:02:16He came as an opener.

01:02:18But he returned to the pavilion at zero.

01:02:20Now we will see how the Pakistani team...

01:02:23...capitalizes.

01:02:25Is this the third day's game?

01:02:27It is the second day.

01:02:28It is the third day.

01:02:30My apologies.

01:02:32Let's talk about the third day's game.

01:02:34Another wicket of England has fallen.

01:02:37Tauseef Ahmed is with us.

01:02:39Tauseef, thank you so much for joining us.

01:02:41Two wickets of England have fallen.

01:02:47The score is not that good.

01:02:50How do you see the game?

01:02:53I cannot hear you.

01:02:57You can hear me now.

01:02:59Assalam-o-Alaikum.

01:03:01Wa-alaikum-salam.

01:03:03Tauseef, in the initial remarks...

01:03:06...another wicket has fallen.

01:03:08I cannot hear you.

01:03:12But I understand what you are saying.

01:03:15Another wicket has fallen.

01:03:17Two or three more should fall.

01:03:19Then we will have an interest in the match.

01:03:24The position of the pitch is in its place.

01:03:29We can debate about the way we have played.

01:03:33But I think we can say that...

01:03:36...on this batting pitch...

01:03:39...where there are many runs...

01:03:43...there is only one option.

01:03:45Pakistan should out England quickly.

01:03:50They have to take 22 or 20 wickets.

01:03:53So, they should out quickly.

01:03:56And then...

01:03:58This is a contradictory statement.

01:04:01Everyone knows that batting is a paradise.

01:04:05English commentators were saying the same.

01:04:08So, how can they take wickets?

01:04:10Either they use their strategy...

01:04:13...to play fast...

01:04:15...and lose wickets.

01:04:17Or we should not let them run.

01:04:20What should we do?

01:04:22We should attack.

01:04:25What is the position now?

01:04:27I saw that Amir Jamal was bowling.

01:04:30Karoli is coming with a single on the sweeper.

01:04:34He is playing the same way.

01:04:37I saw Karoli...

01:04:39...in the last 2000 wickets...

01:04:42...Abrar was not allowed to play.

01:04:46He was trapped.

01:04:48You saw yesterday...

01:04:50...that they started attacking him.

01:04:53This is their style of batting.

01:04:57I think...

01:04:59...we should bowl wicket to wicket on this pitch.

01:05:03There is a lot of wear and tear.

01:05:06The ball is falling.

01:05:08If you bowl with line and length...

01:05:12...then you are successful.

01:05:15You have hit them a lot.

01:05:17They will play a little.

01:05:19But...

01:05:20...you should take a good lead from them.

01:05:24I don't think you should...

01:05:27It is important to follow up.

01:05:30That's what I am saying.

01:05:32It is time to follow up.

01:05:34I don't think we should follow up.

01:05:37This pitch should get worse.

01:05:39When it gets worse...

01:05:41...then we can work on our spinners.

01:05:44You said in the beginning...

01:05:46...let's talk about that inning...

01:05:48...which was played by Pakistan.

01:05:50Let's talk about Saud Shaqeel...

01:05:52...Abdullah Shafiq...

01:05:54...and our captain...

01:05:56...Shaan Masood.

01:05:58It was a good performance.

01:06:00But overall...

01:06:02...if we talk about Rizwan and Babar...

01:06:05...what were they doing?

01:06:07Could they have scored more?

01:06:09It was a batting wicket.

01:06:11When we talk about it...

01:06:13...Saim was out.

01:06:15Unfortunately...

01:06:17...he was out.

01:06:19He left.

01:06:21After that, Shaan...

01:06:23...and Abdullah Shafiq...

01:06:25...the way they batted...

01:06:27...especially Shaan...

01:06:29...the way they attacked...

01:06:31...and this is a sign of a good player...

01:06:34...that if the pitch is like this...

01:06:36...then I should play like that.

01:06:38I mean, today...

01:06:40...the way cricket is being played...

01:06:42...I should play like that.

01:06:44And they played well.

01:06:46They brought them on the back foot.

01:06:48But...

01:06:50...I regret to say...

01:06:52...the vice-captain is in his place.

01:06:54There are no kids.

01:06:56They must be getting instructions from inside.

01:06:58Saud Shaqeel...

01:07:00...didn't play up to the mark.

01:07:02And I think...

01:07:04...these runs...

01:07:06...they should have batted...

01:07:08...for 1-1.5 hours...

01:07:10...which I think...

01:07:12...we played for half an hour.

01:07:14We should have played faster.

01:07:16You saw...

01:07:18...how Babar...

01:07:20...how Agha played.

01:07:22Even if you...

01:07:24...talk about our fast bowler...

01:07:26...he also hit 3-4 sixes...

01:07:28...with the right watchman.

01:07:30Yes, Naseem.

01:07:32Naseem batted really well.

01:07:34Yes.

01:07:36This is the way...

01:07:38...you have...

01:07:40...made a flat pitch...

01:07:42...and you know...

01:07:44...we got an advantage...

01:07:46...we won the toss...

01:07:48...and after that...

01:07:50...we got such a good partnership...

01:07:52...in both cases.

01:07:54So...

01:07:56...I don't have a strategy...

01:07:58...to stop you.

01:08:00You were making runs...

01:08:02...straight runs...

01:08:04...and they were helpless.

01:08:06But I hope...

01:08:08...the solution is...

01:08:10...that you...

01:08:12...out them early.

01:08:14One wicket is gone...

01:08:16...which always happens...

01:08:18...after coming in the morning.

01:08:20But their batting is still there.

01:08:22Alright.

01:08:24I hope...

01:08:26...the Pakistani team...

01:08:28...will take advantage of this opportunity...

01:08:30...and try to out the English team...

01:08:32...as soon as possible.

01:08:34One wicket is gone.

01:08:36Let's see what happens next.

01:08:38Thank you, Naseem.

01:08:40Let's see what happens next.

01:08:42We don't know what will happen...

01:08:44...in the future.

01:08:46But we know one thing...

01:08:48...we have to take a break.

01:08:50After the break.

01:08:54Welcome back once again.

01:08:56We have some updates.

01:08:58Let's first share them with you.

01:09:00Under the leadership of Prime Minister...

01:09:02...Kabina Committee...

01:09:04...has agreed to make Pakistan...

01:09:06...an independent multiplayer market...

01:09:08...to buy electricity.

01:09:10Azhar Farooq will tell us more about this.

01:09:12Go ahead.

01:09:14In this meeting...

01:09:16...which was held by the Kabina Committee...

01:09:18...independent system and market...

01:09:20...operator has agreed...

01:09:22...to make Pakistan...

01:09:24...an independent multiplayer market...

01:09:26...to buy electricity.

01:09:28ISMO will be registered...

01:09:30...under Companies Act 2017...

01:09:32...by HCECP.

01:09:34And through this institution...

01:09:36...Pakistan will have...

01:09:38...an efficient and transparent...

01:09:40...multiplayer market.

01:09:42It has also been said...

01:09:44...that this system...

01:09:46...will provide electricity to distributors...

01:09:48...as well as other suppliers.

01:09:50Along with this...

01:09:52...this meeting...

01:09:54...has also been briefed...

01:09:56...regarding the loans...

01:09:58...of the electricity sector.

01:10:00The Prime Minister has said...

01:10:02...that Pakistan is taking...

01:10:04...progressive measures...

01:10:06...to reduce theft and damage...

01:10:08...in the electricity sector.

01:10:10Along with this...

01:10:12...progressive measures...

01:10:14...to reduce theft and damage...

01:10:16...in the electricity sector.

01:10:20Azhar Farooq, Deputy Bureau Chief, Islamabad...

01:10:22...was with us.

01:10:24The Tosha Khana 2 case...

01:10:26...in Islamabad High Court...

01:10:28...has been adjourned...

01:10:30...at the request of Bushra Bibi.

01:10:32Hussain Ahmed Chaudhry...

01:10:34...has more details.

01:10:36Tell us.

01:10:38The Tosha Khana 2 case...

01:10:40...has been adjourned...

01:10:42...at the request of Bushra Bibi.

01:10:44The investigation officers...

01:10:46...and others...

01:10:48...were told...

01:10:50...to wait a week...

01:10:52...for the prosecutor...

01:10:54...but the court...

01:10:56...rejected their request.

01:10:58Justice Miyagul said...

01:11:00...that the prosecutor...

01:11:02...should wait till tomorrow.

01:11:04Barrister Salman Sattar...

01:11:06...was asked to give evidence.

01:11:08He has given his evidence.

01:11:10The FIA prosecutors...

01:11:12...will give their evidence tomorrow.

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01:21:26Bringing in Rs.

01:21:2810.5 crore rupees as a

01:21:30gift for the

01:21:32Ramzan Sheepa sahib is one of them, he is doing his work, Ramzan Sheepa sahib is also doing his work,

01:21:42so today is his birthday.

01:21:44Happy birthday to you.

01:21:47Happy birthday to you.

01:21:48He has been given the star of Imtiaz, the crescent of Imtiaz.

01:21:51And by the way, it is very important to appreciate those who do voluntary work.

01:21:55It is very important.

01:21:56And it gives you a lot of courage.

01:21:58There should be recognition of their efforts, there should be acknowledgement.

01:22:02When you talked about social issues, there is a big issue in our country,

01:22:06and that is how women are the victims of insecurity.

01:22:11We have some statistics and numbers of crimes against women,

01:22:15and this is the report of the Sustainable Social Development Organization,

01:22:20which tells that out of 7,010 cases in the country, 6,624 cases were reported in Punjab alone.

01:22:28If we talk about Sindh, the most cases of rape were reported there,

01:22:32and the number of them was 1,666.

01:22:35Women are still killed in the name of honor.

01:22:38These cases were reported a lot in Sindh.

01:22:41Sindh was number one in this,

01:22:43while 258 incidents were reported,

01:22:45which is almost half of the murders in Pakistan in the name of honor.

01:22:49The report of Subah-e-Pulis tells that in the report,

01:22:52the number of murders in the name of honor and dignity are reported.

01:22:57Sadaf, do you remember the incident of Ranipur one year ago?

01:23:01Yes, Ranipur.

01:23:02Do you remember?

01:23:03I don't know, I am not sure about it,

01:23:05but there was news that their family said that there was a lot of pressure on them.

01:23:09There was pressure.

01:23:10They were pressurized to sign the reconciliation agreement,

01:23:13and whatever the process was.

01:23:15But the videos that came out of it, they were very disturbing.

01:23:18The medical report and everything.

01:23:20The medical report and everything,

01:23:22and the DNA reports that were submitted in it,

01:23:25and when the autopsy report came in front of us,

01:23:28it was very sad for us too.

01:23:30I mean, how that girl was a victim of brutal torture,

01:23:33how she was a victim of continuous torture.

01:23:36And these are the cases that…

01:23:39And the state should be the party.

01:23:41Yes, there is that class too,

01:23:44the pressure on the children who are forced to work,

01:23:47the pressure on the children who work at home,

01:23:49and that is a separate matter.

01:23:51Here we talk about women,

01:23:53especially those who are killed in the name of dignity,

01:23:55or in the name of dignity and other incidents.

01:23:57Let's talk about this.

01:23:58Farzana Bari Sahiba is with us.

01:24:00Farzana Bari Sahiba, obviously,

01:24:02Punjab is the largest province in terms of population,

01:24:05so if more cases are reported from there,

01:24:07then it makes sense because there is more population there.

01:24:10But do you think that there are some other reasons

01:24:12why more cases are being reported in Punjab?

01:24:14We are going to connect now.

01:24:16We have lost contact.

01:24:18So we would like to know.

01:24:20But for me, this is a very surprising thing

01:24:22that if we talk about poverty,

01:24:25then we say that the environment in Sindh is a little harsh.

01:24:28Okay, Farzana Bari Sahiba has joined us.

01:24:30Thank you so much, Farzana Sahiba,

01:24:32for taking out time for us.

01:24:34I don't understand one thing,

01:24:36when we talk about the lack of education,

01:24:38the name of Sindh is also mentioned.

01:24:40When we talk about the situation of law and order,

01:24:42the name of Sindh is also mentioned.

01:24:44And it is said very proudly that

01:24:46the situation in Punjab is different.

01:24:48There is education there, there is consciousness there,

01:24:50there are relatively better economic affairs.

01:24:52But if such cases are coming,

01:24:54which are mostly in Punjab,

01:24:56then what reason do you see for that?

01:25:01Look, these cases are in the whole of Pakistan.

01:25:05And obviously, Punjab has more population.

01:25:10And the reasons behind such crimes

01:25:16will obviously affect Punjab more

01:25:21because it is the largest province in Pakistan

01:25:24and the majority of the population lives in this area.

01:25:29And the reasons behind this are very structural.

01:25:34Because the overall failure of governance

01:25:38due to which there is chaos in the society

01:25:41and the non-human attitudes that develop,

01:25:47in every society where the relationship

01:25:51between the state and the people ends,

01:25:53when the number of foreigners increases,

01:25:56then the number of crimes increases.

01:25:59And this is also happening in Pakistan.

01:26:01And logically, I think that it will be more in Punjab

01:26:05in terms of number.

01:26:07But if you look at it,

01:26:09then any province in Pakistan,

01:26:11whether it is Balochistan or Sindh,

01:26:13the way there are incidents in Sindh,

01:26:15or if you look at KPK,

01:26:17then these crimes,

01:26:19the sexual crimes,

01:26:21the gender-based crimes,

01:26:23are happening in the whole of Pakistan.

01:26:25Look, it doesn't matter

01:26:27where it is happening more and where it is happening less.

01:26:29If there is even one case,

01:26:31then we should also have zero tolerance for it.

01:26:34We should be asking,

01:26:36why is this happening?

01:26:38Why is the state failing

01:26:40to reach those people

01:26:42who have this kind of mindset,

01:26:45who are violating people's rights,

01:26:48who are committing such sexual crimes?

01:26:51Why is it not reaching them?

01:26:55Why do they still have impunity?

01:26:57That is the question that needs to be answered.

01:26:59There should be an answer to this.

01:27:01We had very little time.

01:27:04We will take your leave now.

01:27:06We will meet again.

01:27:08Allah Hafiz.

Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 9th OCT 2024

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