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Hindi kumbinsido si Rep. Romeo Acop na sinabi na ni dating police official Royina Garma ang lahat ng kaniyang nalalaman nang magtanong siya kung kilala ba ni Garma si codename "Eagle." Sagot ni Garma, hindi niya kilala ito.


"Kaya ako nagtataka Madam Garma, alam mo 'yung sistema... pero hindi ka kasama sa sistema," ani Rep. Acop. "As far as this representation is concerned, hindi mo pa sinasabi ang lahat."

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00:00Vis-a-vis Colonel Leonardo?
00:04That's what they're saying.
00:06Who's saying it?
00:07They are, sir.
00:09If...
00:11If...
00:13They're gathering, sir.
00:15Okay.
00:16And observe the movement.
00:18Oh, please encode this.
00:19You'll see.
00:20Ah, okay.
00:21So...
00:22If it's the police, it's gossip.
00:24We're gossiping.
00:25We're asking questions, Mr. Chair.
00:27That's why I'm asking, Madam Garma.
00:30Do you know the system?
00:32The general structure and flow of communications and flow of monetary considerations.
00:40But it's not included in the system.
00:43Ah...
00:45I can't believe that, Madam Garma.
00:49Now, this Sibactat, Serbo, and Palma were already dismissed, I think, this year, right?
00:57Yes, Mr. Chair.
01:00They were dismissed administratively because of the administrative cases filed against them.
01:09Would that be correct?
01:11Yes, Mr. Chair.
01:12Yes.
01:13Now...
01:14Ah...
01:16Here in...
01:19Here in the diagram...
01:21Do you know all the people who were here?
01:26Here in what you did?
01:28Yes, Mr. Chair.
01:29Except for Alias Mukeng?
01:32Sir, I was really trying to recall her first name, really.
01:36Honestly, I cannot...
01:37But you...
01:38First name?
01:39Ah...
01:40In other words, you knew her last name.
01:42Espino or Espina, I wasn't sure.
01:45Espino or Espina, I wasn't sure.
01:47I also researched her last night, but I was not given an answer.
01:52That's why it's a public knowledge when you say Mukeng.
01:55And how did you come to know that the money came from her office going to a certain Mr. Pedro Parungo?
02:06Mr. Pedro told me, sir.
02:07When I told him that his head was aching, I said,
02:11Hey, why?
02:12He answered me,
02:13I have a problem, ma'am, because a lot of money is going into my account.
02:18I'm in debt.
02:19Where did it come from?
02:20It came from the instruction that Mukeng was sending.
02:23That's what he told me.
02:26We have questioned the...
02:28Ah...
02:30Former Commissioner Leonardo.
02:32In the previous hearings that we have had,
02:35he has always denied his position in the diagram that you made.
02:45He has always denied that whenever we have asked him that question.
02:51And now, here you are, stating that he is the paymaster.
03:01Now, who is telling the truth?
03:05Between you and Colonel Leonardo.
03:09I am telling the truth, Your Honor.
03:11You are saying the truth?
03:13That he is really the paymaster?
03:15Yes, sir.
03:16But you don't know that his codename is Eagle when you were questioned by Honorable Rhodes Gutierrez?
03:25No, sir.
03:27Because the codename was used when I was directly involved.
03:31I don't know that he is Eagle.
03:34Well, you know the system.
03:37I don't know the system. I only know his codename.
03:42Right?
03:43Yes, sir.
03:45Honestly speaking, I didn't know that he is Eagle.
03:49His codename.
03:50You know, Madam Garma,
03:54I learned this from our chairman, Chairman Ace Barbers.
03:59If your feet are wet, go take a bath.
04:03That's what Chairman Barbers said.
04:06What he meant to say was, we already know something.
04:09You already said a little.
04:11Pour it.
04:12Go take a bath.
04:14Tell the whole truth.
04:16Because as far as this representation is concerned, you haven't said everything.
04:30As for Eagle, I cannot recall.
04:37I don't know that he is Eagle.
04:40Because the ones on the ground use code, but I don't.
04:47I don't use Eagle. I don't know who is Eagle.

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