Karong adlawa atong ila ilahon si Atty. Regal Oliva, city treasurer sa Mandaue City and mosuway sa bugno sa politika karong umaabot 2025 elections.
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02:00No, this is something new to me.
02:01Politics is very, very new to me.
02:04Very new, so.
02:05Anyway, you said that you're also a foreigner
02:08because for so long you're in the government service,
02:11right?
02:12You're a lawyer.
02:13And of course, you're also a CPA, right?
02:16Yeah, very active in a civic organization,
02:18like the group LGBT, right?
02:20Correct.
02:21So you're very respected.
02:22Yeah, we've been interviewing you for so many episodes
02:25and then we like your, what is it?
02:28Lookout.
02:29Yes.
02:31The last time there's pandemic, no?
02:33Yeah.
02:34Before that, there was an issue, what was that?
02:37I think on women.
02:38Yes.
02:39Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that.
02:40Then, I like your one, kind of wide one.
02:45But it's not always black, white, black, white,
02:51but you have certain...
02:53Because, you know, if you belong to this community,
02:56you will always be as colorful as the rainbow.
02:58Yes, we'll be talking about that later on.
03:01But first, we'll talk about your achievements, no?
03:07Mona, as Nasulti Nidudong Ganina, attorney,
03:10for a while you've been, your statement is,
03:12you're not really running.
03:14Yes.
03:15What was the turning point?
03:16You know, at first, when the controversy was there already,
03:22I released a statement to the media,
03:25siguro outburst of my emotions,
03:27na sige, musukul ko bisagun sa imudaganan, you know?
03:32But then, after careful reflection,
03:38I saw myself not in politics yet.
03:41I have always loved the treasury,
03:43as I've been telling everyone,
03:45that I grew up in the treasury.
03:48My mother was a treasurer in Mandawi City,
03:52and then got transferred to Dumaguete.
03:55Then went to Cebu City,
03:56then Pasay, Calamba, San Fernando, Tacloban, almost all.
04:00So, ako nagtubo ko ng almost,
04:02I know that the diversity also,
04:05that each treasurer's office is not the same from the other.
04:09So, nalingaw po kayo kong treasury.
04:11And so, then again, at a certain point,
04:18I said, you know, the Mayor Jonas
04:21was also convincing me to run for Congress,
04:23and he really was very serious about it,
04:28because he did not even give an option aside from me.
04:31No?
04:32Wagyod.
04:32Wagyod ako yung butang,
04:34kundi imudagan wagyod tay kandidato.
04:37But my turning point is my mom.
04:40You know, ko kabalo nga my mom will be there
04:44on the last minute of filing.
04:46Kaya ako di naman gin kong mo file, no?
04:48I said, nga mo, ad-tuko sa simbahan,
04:51kaya I will go with my partner, si Marco.
04:54And, but then my mom said, you know,
04:56you will never progress,
04:58because the enemy of progress is comfort.
05:03Kung masyadong nakakumportable sa imong pagka-treasurer,
05:06di na ka mo grow.
05:08Wala kay avenue to grow,
05:11and there's no growth anymore.
05:13And so, if you want to venture into a new horizon,
05:17then do it.
05:19Kayo, wala may mawala niyo.
05:21Amin kung makadaug ta, mapildi ta,
05:23wala may mawala.
05:24This is, you will still be the Regal Oliva I will love.
05:28And so, as long as there is family behind me,
05:31I really don't care what the outcome of the election is,
05:33mils and dong.
05:34Curious ko, when you said,
05:35you mentioned a few lines earlier na,
05:38pisa kung sa imudaganan, sokol ko.
05:40You're a very good person.
05:41Yes, of course.
05:43Because, you know, that person was responsible,
05:46and I thought, I knew that she was responsible
05:50of my transfer, you know, of the push for my transfer.
05:54And that was the statement I've released previously.
06:00So.
06:01Huwag sya poy ako makuntra karon, dong.
06:02No, good.
06:04Anyway.
06:05I'd like to go back sa imong mom.
06:07She was there.
06:08Was she, like, supporting you from the beginning,
06:12or did to lang sya at the time?
06:14No, I have to be honest.
06:15Sa akong inahan, grabe gina sya kaporsigido
06:18when it comes to a change of career,
06:21change of, anything that will develop her children,
06:24mao gina sya.
06:25So when she heard about me running for Congress,
06:27she said, kuwa, kuwa dayo niko,
06:29may, kana bang, nakay,
06:32nana magkui ma, kana,
06:34comfortably nakay ko ba,
06:35unsan mo may akong,
06:36din ka na imudagan pa man ko.
06:38Wala ba, jeep scooting.
06:39Kana, kana laging, kana laging ilang gisulti,
06:41kana nung musud man ka anang duwasayawa.
06:43Kaya, politika lagi, duwasayawa.
06:45Niko nga nga ako laging ambition sa kinabuhay
06:46na good meals, mamini yung ugyawa.
06:51Pero, na abot na yun kuwa ni ba?
06:53So, okay, then we will have to do it.
06:56And then I asked for the permission of my family
07:00na without you, I will not go through it.
07:05Because, you know,
07:06ang una gud iguna niya,
07:07ako mong pamilya.
07:09Magnet peak gud sa imong family,
07:11they will be involved.
07:12Correct, and I don't want that to,
07:14I don't want it to hurt them.
07:16And so when they said we're all ready to do this,
07:18then they go.
07:19You mentioned about family.
07:20So, what do you need from your mom and you?
07:22Yes.
07:23And the rest, can you mention about your family?
07:26Yeah, my sister is assistant vice president of BDO.
07:29She's our eldest.
07:32And my brother owns a school.
07:34It's a music and art school.
07:36And my sister is a fashion designer in Canada.
07:39So you're four.
07:40Yeah, we're four in the family.
07:42So very successful siblings.
07:44Yes, yes.
07:46It's because your mom is a very strong woman.
07:48My mom is a strong woman
07:50because her children also will not give them problems.
07:52She has a lot of children.
07:55So, you can see the happiness in my mom.
07:58And that's why she's an inspiration,
08:00not only to her children, but to so many people.
08:03Yeah, when she came back to Cebu City,
08:07at her age, she was still dancing
08:09for tax collection.
08:11She can do it.
08:13She's not discarded, right?
08:14She's not discarded for what she's doing.
08:16She's still dancing.
08:17Well, thank you.
08:18Thank you very much for seeing that side of my mom.
08:20Yes.
08:21Listen, even though I'm the one who's scolding her,
08:23she's still dancing for me.
08:25And you don't really have to dance to really collect.
08:27But you know, that's her way of attracting taxpayers.
08:31And maybe listen to her.
08:33We have different attacks.
08:34I never dance for collection mills.
08:37But we have a different strategy with my mom.
08:40Yeah.
08:41But Ma'am Othelio, she has a way of
08:45making you feel comfortable
08:49that, oh, I can cover my taxes.
08:51She has a way of explaining,
08:54take action now before it's too late.
08:55Yes, yes.
08:56She does that in our interviews.
08:58She makes people feel comfortable.
09:00And don't be afraid of any tax collector.
09:03No, we're here to protect you.
09:06And we're here to also help you.
09:08This is your property, right?
09:09Correct.
09:11As much as possible, we would like you to,
09:13we would like to protect your properties.
09:15So just, we would like to extend how long
09:19we can help you to pay your taxes.
09:20So he's talking about taxes.
09:22And we know Mandaway is not a cheap place.
09:25Correct.
09:26Award, of course, no.
09:28I think Mandaway is-
09:29Mandaway is number two among all highly urbanized cities
09:32when it comes to local revenues.
09:35Oh yeah.
09:36Of course, regal, no, you know.
09:39But he's an attorney, I know you have your role
09:43as city treasurer to, you know,
09:46make sure that everybody gets to pay their taxes,
09:49they can pay their taxes.
09:50And the challenge for LGUs now is to increase taxes.
09:57How did you do it in Mandaway that,
10:00especially Mandaway that has a lot of businesses.
10:02Industrial city.
10:03Industrial city.
10:04Not only is it an industrial city,
10:06we're now shifting to a commercial city.
10:09Yes, both.
10:10Basically, I am surprised over the last decade,
10:13especially after the pandemic,
10:15from a manufacturing industrial city,
10:18Mandaway City has also now shifted to SMEs, no?
10:22Yes, we can observe that now.
10:23Yes, it's more crowded.
10:24And then the commercial, it has boosted also.
10:29So how we did this is that there's confidence
10:32among business community.
10:34To the local government.
10:35To the local government, especially because,
10:37number one, corruption is not present in the treasury.
10:41Number one.
10:42If there are no corrupt people in the treasury,
10:46and there are no corrupt to our business community,
10:48the confidence of the business community,
10:51the trust to pay their taxes will be very high.
10:54Because it takes two to tango, right?
10:55Correct.
10:56If there are no corrupt, no one will be corrupted.
11:00Correct.
11:00It's tempting.
11:03That is tempting.
11:04I would have to say, and I'd be very honest,
11:07because you have offered in the treasurer's office,
11:11but the will to say no, no?
11:16And because you have to give it back to Mandaway City.
11:19You can't just give it away.
11:20And because we have huge collection,
11:23we can also bring back to the people projects, services,
11:29the things that they need also in their basic communities.
11:34So, okay, good.
11:36Can you ease of doing business and regulatory reforms?
11:39This is what the local government aspires, right?
11:43Because business owners,
11:45they have a lot of requirements to implement.
11:50So how did Mandaway streamline your system?
11:56You know, a decade ago, or 10 years ago,
11:57when we digitalized the digitization
12:02of Mandaway City's collection of taxes,
12:05especially on business taxes,
12:08has truly changed the landscape of business collection
12:15and business confidence also.
12:17Because there is no person-to-person.
12:19There is no chance of being the first to go, right?
12:22Correct.
12:23There is no chance.
12:24Because it's a system.
12:25It's a system.
12:26It's a system.
12:27And now, especially during pandemic,
12:29we can say the pandemic was the greatest disruptor
12:33of all time.
12:34Because during pandemic,
12:35we did not accept face-to-face transaction.
12:39That was already online.
12:42And so when we had online transactions in Mandaway City,
12:45even payments, that made Mandaway City a leader
12:48when it comes to digitization.
12:51It also became a leader in this part of the country
12:56on ease of doing business.
12:57Because your requirements are more general.
13:00And you don't have to wait until lunch break
13:03or you don't have to wait at the table.
13:04So you can optimize your time every time you visit
13:07the government.
13:08Yes, yes.
13:09Well, that's, you know,
13:10we can emulate, right?
13:15Yes, yes.
13:16We can emulate other local governments.
13:20Because if you digitize your system,
13:25the chances of corruption are less.
13:27Exactly.
13:28Even if you go to the banks,
13:30your interface with the teller
13:33is when they give you the money.
13:35Exactly, exactly.
13:36And because of this one,
13:38we had to take out jobs.
13:42We did not.
13:43Because of computing that affected our jobs.
13:46Because these people that were fired
13:48from their jobs because of this one,
13:51we did not take out jobs.
13:53We did not.
13:53We did not take out jobs because of this one.
13:56These people that were fired from their jobs
13:58when it comes to face-to-face transactions,
14:00we put them in the field.
14:02So they're now...
14:03So they're now more people to monitor.
14:05It's tax mapping, right?
14:06Correct.
14:07Our tax mapping operations have been extensive.
14:10We've increased and aggressively campaigned
14:13for tax mapping operations
14:15to know if these businesses that apply online
14:18have been compliant.
14:19So instead of them going to City Hall,
14:22we will go there and assist them
14:24in getting what they want.
14:26You mentioned earlier,
14:28you transformed it from industrial
14:30to something like commercial.
14:33This would also reflect the zoning.
14:36Oh, exactly.
14:37Exactly.
14:38So there was a rapid changes of zoning
14:40to from industrial to...
14:42We are there.
14:43You can see this.
14:44Even just for this one,
14:48in our south reclamation area,
14:51in Mandaue City,
14:53in the north of Cebu City,
14:56the south area is already full of container vans.
15:00It's like a storage area, right?
15:02It's like that.
15:03It's like Mandaue City has a lot of reclamation
15:06and storage in Cebu City.
15:08Now we're driving them out.
15:10So you can see, there's nothing left.
15:13We only have a few locators left.
15:14What are the high-rise...
15:16High-rise now.
15:17We have residential buildings already.
15:20We have commercial, we have hotels.
15:22And the new government center
15:24will also be constructed in that area.
15:27So,
15:29and now the container yards
15:32are also going to the other LGUs.
15:33In other words,
15:34we're also spreading our development
15:36to other LGUs, like Consolacion, Liloan.
15:39So,
15:42Correct.
15:43So that we're spreading the progress.
15:45We're spreading also,
15:46we're sharing the development
15:47to other local government.
15:48Okay, or else,
15:49if it's in Mandaue,
15:50the traffic is already there.
15:51Yes, yes.
15:52Right?
15:52But, Tony, when you said
15:54that the new government center is already there,
15:57I know there was a controversy
15:59in the government center.
16:00It's a loan from the land bank, right?
16:04No, it is with DBP,
16:05the Development Bank of the Philippines.
16:07All of a sudden,
16:08the council said they wanted it on PPP.
16:10But how?
16:11What's the...
16:12How will it...
16:13What's the difference if it's part PPP?
16:15No, okay.
16:16If it's part of the city hall mall or hotel,
16:20what's the difference?
16:21That was actually the first venture
16:23of Mayor Jonas previously.
16:25Maybe before 2019,
16:27the route,
16:28the direction of Mandaue City's new government center
16:31was through PPP.
16:32When we negotiated with possible proponents of PPP,
16:37the problem was we cannot use the...
16:39Entire.
16:40Entire building as city hall.
16:43In other words,
16:44its prime area,
16:48prime locations cannot be used by city hall.
16:52It will only be used by the private partner.
16:56And city hall will probably start
16:58on the 8th or 8th floor up.
17:00Now, that's the problem.
17:01You'll go home from here.
17:02Exactly.
17:03But there's an elevator, right?
17:04But the elevator is not permit-operational.
17:08And our best example is Makati City,
17:13which has elevators also,
17:14but the line is high there.
17:16You can get through.
17:17Besides Cebu City Hall?
17:18Exactly.
17:19The line to the elevator is high, right?
17:228 floors of Cebu City Hall.
17:23So, we will just have to have the options
17:25of using the stairs.
17:27And that's one problem that we have
17:29when it comes to PPP.
17:31Not only that,
17:32the management of the building
17:34will not be directly controlled
17:35by the local government.
17:37It will be a joint management control,
17:40but we all know that when it comes to PPP,
17:43the private will have to look after it,
17:45because they are the investors.
17:48The PPP will also be affected
17:50if the UTA is not there.
17:51In other words,
17:52if you construct a city hall,
17:54all others will be affected.
17:57So, to answer this,
17:59the whole government center
18:01will now be spent by the city government of Mandawin,
18:06but there will also be a PPP counterpart.
18:08But the PPP counterpart
18:10will be behind the government center,
18:14if the UTA is not there,
18:16as a relocation site or temporary location site.
18:21So, they will also be proposed as a PPP area,
18:27so that we can also gain PPP or economic gains
18:33from the public-private partnership,
18:35and we can also pay for the loan here in Bangkok.
18:39That's right, Director.
18:41So, this will be the fourth one.
18:43But the PPP that is being proposed right now,
18:46I don't know if I'm correct,
18:48it's already invalid,
18:50because the loan has already been paid.
18:54That's why they're under the bridge,
18:55the PPP,
18:56that they will be constructing
18:57the city government center.
19:00No, it's not in the PPP.
19:01But we're giving another option for a PPP
19:04to be developed
19:05purely under the operations.
19:08This area in the relocation site.
19:10Yes, which will also actually,
19:12the nice thing is that
19:13the full development of the government center
19:15will complement the PPP area.
19:17Because it's there, right?
19:18Correct.
19:19Yes, it's right behind it.
19:21So, what will it be like?
19:22Commercial?
19:23There will be,
19:24what I know is that there will be recreational sites,
19:27BPO industries,
19:29different locators.
19:30There's also a mall,
19:32and hotels also.
19:33There are a lot of things in Mandawit.
19:35Yes, yes.
19:35There are a lot of park malls.
19:37If you look at the buildings,
19:40there are a lot of real estate.
19:42These are Mandawit's best times.
19:44Yes, because the area where it was first built,
19:47you can see the container vans, right?
19:49True.
19:50Right?
19:50There are a lot of places
19:52in the port area.
19:54Correct, correct.
19:55So, the property is there.
19:57It's a premium property
19:59where you can build a building
20:00with empty storage vans.
20:03So, at least,
20:04that's something that can be...
20:06It can continue
20:08that kind of development.
20:09Yes, at the same time,
20:10since you're familiar with the attorney,
20:12this is something that can be replicated
20:14in other areas.
20:15Yes, yes.
20:16Through, maybe,
20:17laws that are smart
20:19so that it can be...
20:21It's not just in town.
20:22If it's built in Mandawit,
20:25I mean, my idea...
20:26I have something to say about Mandawit at first.
20:29There are a lot of industries.
20:30As in, the sealing and warehouse.
20:32Yes.
20:34When you get to Mandawit,
20:35it's crowded,
20:36it's crowded.
20:37It's a lot.
20:37Yes, it's a lot.
20:38This is my idea.
20:40Now, we can see that
20:41it's being built here.
20:43If you're not regular
20:44in Mandawit,
20:45you would be amazed.
20:46You would be surprised
20:47on how...
20:48The shift...
20:49What is it?
20:50The...
20:51So, I think that's what...
20:53The role of the press...
20:54The current...
20:55The LGU.
20:56The president is very...
20:58The president is very...
20:59He's very...
21:00He's very...
21:01He said,
21:02there's no more treasure.
21:03That's true.
21:04It's a lifeblood theory.
21:05Yes.
21:06There's no treasure
21:07and there's no room.
21:08Right?
21:09It's very liquid.
21:10Mandawit is very liquid.
21:11I don't have a room.
21:12I don't have a room.
21:13I'm poor.
21:14Yes.
21:15I don't have a room.
21:16I don't have money.
21:17I don't have money.
21:18But,
21:19if you are a treasurer,
21:21you have to be very wise
21:23when it comes to spending
21:24and prudent also.
21:25And very...
21:26You have to think also
21:27what's good for
21:28Mandawit City.
21:29I've seen it.
21:30It's not easy.
21:31They don't have a room.
21:32And then,
21:33they don't know
21:34how to use it.
21:35They don't know how to build a room.
21:36So, sometimes,
21:37I have to say,
21:38there are transactions
21:39or there are supplies
21:40that have been disapproved
21:41by my office
21:42because I felt that
21:43it's not needed now.
21:44It's not needed now.
21:45We may use it for next year
21:46but not this year.
21:47Not a priority.
21:48Correct.
21:49You know,
21:50prioritizing,
21:51even if you have the resources,
21:52but prioritizing
21:53the expenses.
21:54Yes.
21:55Yes.
21:56It's not about
21:57budgeting 50 billion,
21:58but it's about
21:59collecting
22:00and earning
22:01and sourcing.
22:02She's not answering.
22:03Oh.
22:04She's like an LGO.
22:05Yes.
22:06Right?
22:07No, no, no.
22:08I mean,
22:09I'm not
22:10an accounting person.
22:11You're a mother.
22:12But I'm a mom.
22:13Why would I spend
22:14100 pesos
22:15when the money
22:16in my pocket
22:17is only 50 pesos?
22:18Basic, right?
22:19If you spend more,
22:20you won't be able
22:21to afford
22:22your room.
22:23Projections,
22:24ma'am.
22:25Projections.
22:26But,
22:27budget is good.
22:28So,
22:29when they say,
22:30this budget is 50 billion,
22:31that doesn't mean
22:32to say that
22:33you can spend
22:3450 billion.
22:35So,
22:36once you can only
22:37spend,
22:38like,
22:39if you collect
22:4015 billion,
22:41you can only spend
22:4215 billion.
22:43So, that's why
22:44the treasurer has to be
22:45very prudent
22:46and very austere
22:47when it comes to
22:48approving expenses.
22:49That's good.
22:50So,
22:51what's the role
22:52of a treasurer?
22:53If you're a treasurer,
22:54you should
22:55invest
22:56a lot.
22:57A lot.
22:58That's good.
22:59Another
23:00interest
23:01that I have
23:02is incentives
23:03for green and sustainable
23:04businesses.
23:05Because,
23:06you've been
23:07doing this
23:08for a while,
23:09especially with
23:10industries.
23:11You've been
23:12doing this
23:13with industrial cities
23:14before.
23:15Just like
23:16you switched
23:17to commercial,
23:18how was the
23:19campaign
23:20for giving
23:21incentive
23:22on businesses
23:23for
23:24green industries?
23:25So,
23:26we have an
23:27ordinance right now.
23:28I sit down
23:29in the board
23:30of the,
23:31especially in the
23:32drafting of the
23:33ordinance.
23:34One key
23:35point
23:36is
23:37tax
23:38incentives.
23:39By giving
23:40tax incentives
23:41to those
23:42who will
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33:38manifest
33:39so that
33:40we can
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33:42sure
33:43so that they can be protected.
33:46What is it in Balaod, if in Balaod,
33:49to ensure that our women and children are protected?
33:54The problem with Mandaway is that
33:56Mandaway has a very good enforcement when it comes to VAUCY.
34:00Our VAUCY desks in each barangay
34:03and even in the police stations are very active.
34:09But the problem is that we lack shelters
34:11for women to run if they are suffering abuse.
34:16If children are being abused also,
34:18we lack shelters for these.
34:20So, it's possible, or it's possible, but we lack.
34:23Because of the large population,
34:25each barangay should have,
34:27or each district in Mandaway should have a shelter
34:32for the many abused women and children.
34:35And that's why I was,
34:37if given the chance to sit down in Congress,
34:41that is one of those things that I will really push for.
34:44More protection, especially on shelters.
34:49You can see that in many places,
34:53the captains, the barangay officials
34:56are the ones pacifying both the husband and the wife.
35:00They're not.
35:00No, that's not supposed to be.
35:01You're not a counselor.
35:03You have to protect.
35:04Correct. You really have to protect the woman and the child.
35:07So, we have to really protect them in whatever capacity.
35:17Especially if the women and the children
35:19are very dependent on the abuser.
35:21Yes.
35:21It's a disadvantage for the women and children.
35:24So, I think that's what's needed, the shelters.
35:27Yes.
35:28There are a lot of things to do while, you know.
35:31I have an observation, Nikki.
35:33It is one of the responsibilities of the DSWD.
35:37But, by the way, this is very useful.
35:40There are a lot of people who are super,
35:42like I said, of all the departments in our government,
35:46the CSWS is the most abused.
35:51It's the seniors, the DSWD, the women, the children.
35:57It's a disaster.
35:58It's a disaster.
35:59It's a disaster.
36:00It's not just about food.
36:01Yes, I agree.
36:01It's too much.
36:03It's like I said,
36:05it's not just the Department of Communications
36:10and the DSWD.
36:11Yes, the DSWD.
36:12It's not just that.
36:14It's very important.
36:17I can see this when I look at the disability.
36:19They don't have the power,
36:21they don't have the resources to provide food.
36:25In fact, there are a lot of food preparation centers.
36:29Yes, we have a mobile kitchen.
36:32In the DSWD, there are a lot of facilities.
36:36I've seen them in the region,
36:40in fact, in the Visayas area.
36:42There are a lot of facilities.
36:43So, it's very different.
36:45Women and children don't have disabilities.
36:47They are supposed to be able to do it.
36:48If they are able to do it,
36:49they should be able to do it.
36:50Because, there are a lot of men and women
36:54who are not able to do it.
36:56They don't have a disability.
36:57They don't have to do it.
36:59The implementation.
37:01But, you know, there's one interesting fact also,
37:04especially in highly urbanized cities,
37:06in highly urbanized areas.
37:08I will not also discount the fact
37:10that while we protect women and children,
37:13we have to also investigate properly
37:15if the woman is reporting properly.
37:19Because, a lot of women nowadays
37:22are very skinny
37:24and they know for a fact that they have rights
37:27when it comes to vows.
37:28Correct.
37:29Yes, and the scales of justice
37:32go towards women and children.
37:35And that's why, as a lawyer,
37:36we have to investigate properly
37:38if this woman is truly and verifiably abused
37:43or if this child is not being connived by the mother
37:49to say something against the father.
37:51So, these are things that we have to also balance.
37:54So, she will follow her part, right?
37:56It's not just the man who is guilty.
37:59We have to talk about it.
38:00The woman herself is using the law
38:03to abuse the husband
38:05and to concoct stories
38:07to get more money from the husband
38:10or from the father of the children.
38:12So, we have to be very, very careful on these.
38:15Especially on passing laws.
38:17We have to also balance the scales.
38:19Because, it's not just the man who is guilty.
38:21We have to protect everyone.
38:23Not only the women and the children.
38:27But, more so, in our protection,
38:29we also have to protect those who are inferior.
38:33And that's why we're talking about women and children.
38:36Because, over the past centuries,
38:38in our country,
38:39women have always been inferior.
38:42Ator Ninay also commented,
38:44Rolando Tabunag,
38:45that there was an attempt to organize Metro Cebu LGUs before
38:49like Mega Cebu initiated by Rafi and Jeka.
38:52The vision was not good.
38:54It also aimed to provide solutions relative to problems
38:57on garbage, flooding, traffic.
38:59It was not revived.
39:01Hoping that Atty. Oliva can help if she gets elected.
39:05The lack of good ator was legislative support and an enabling law.
39:10That's very true.
39:11Legislative support and an enabling law.
39:13And I was hoping that one congressman in Metro Cebu
39:18could have picked that up and passed that into a law
39:21to make it into Metro Cebu.
39:23I remember.
39:24There was a congressman.
39:26Congressman Del Mar.
39:27Del Mar.
39:28He was passing Godong.
39:29What was his name?
39:30What was his name?
39:31His name was…
39:32His name was Aboytiz.
39:34Mr. Aboytiz.
39:35Roberto Aboytiz.
39:36And he was still alive.
39:37And he was really, really passionate about the whole thing.
39:39Mega Cebu.
39:40Correct.
39:41Blessing this guest.
39:43There was really some…
39:44It's still there now.
39:45Once the problem is replicated in the MMDA,
39:49there's really a problem.
39:50Yeah, but the nice thing is that it's already there.
39:54You can always modify the law.
39:56Correct.
39:57The problem is that you can't modify it.
39:59There's nothing to execute and there's nothing to implement.
40:02This is a very…
40:04The layman's observation in Congress.
40:08They're there for legislation.
40:11But if you look at it, there's no justice.
40:15There's no investigators.
40:17There's no judges.
40:18If you're the one who's being called,
40:21there's no court of public opinion.
40:26So, there's nothing that can be done now, actually.
40:30So, although it's just right to investigate.
40:32There's a lot of committees that are investigating.
40:33But there's no parallel legislation because of that.
40:40Correct.
40:41I agree with Dong Ha.
40:45I agree with your observation on that one.
40:48Because investigations is always a power of Congress.
40:51But this should be in aid of legislation.
40:54Correct.
40:55And I just hope that things can change
40:58when it comes to investigation,
41:00that we are not humiliating people
41:02and we are not persecuting witnesses.
41:04So, that's what's important.
41:07Sometimes, we become victims of our own ego
41:10that we can't stand,
41:12especially in the light of public.
41:18So, maybe we can change the House rules one of these days
41:22and suggest that.
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