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00:00Rashid Sumro is with us now.
00:02Assalam-o-Alaikum, Rashid Sumro.
00:03Wa-Alaikum-Salam.
00:04Sumro sahib, should we consider this as a solution?
00:09The matter was decided last night.
00:11Or are the government and you trapped?
00:16I think there are only a few people trapped.
00:19About 70-80% have agreed.
00:22Now, the people trapped are not trapped in the same court,
00:25the same court, the same reforms.
00:28The matters before and after that,
00:31like the one in your mind,
00:33the issue of the Balochistan Assembly,
00:35the issue of increasing seats,
00:37the issue of Article 8,
00:39the issue of the Islamic Ideology Council's recommendations,
00:43the issue of the interest system.
00:45There are many such issues that are being discussed,
00:49which are yet to be discussed.
00:52Sumro sahib, tell us,
00:53how will the Chief Justice of Pakistan be appointed?
00:56Has this matter been decided?
00:58Yes, all these things have been decided.
01:01So, out of the top 5 judges,
01:03the Chief Justice of Pakistan will be chosen?
01:06This is also possible,
01:09and the issue of seniority is also possible.
01:13At the moment, the things I have are entrusted to the Jamaat,
01:17because they are still under discussion.
01:19Today, we are talking to the PTI.
01:21So, before the agreement is reached,
01:23what has been decided,
01:25the PIPR party, JUI, and Muslim League Noon,
01:28perhaps I will not be able to share with you
01:31that I have the Jamaat's entrustments.
01:33Yes, once the agreement is reached,
01:35then I will be in a position to talk to you openly.
01:38Sir, I will tell you my own news,
01:41that Maulana sahib is still standing on the seniority principle.
01:46And the government believes that
01:48along with this seniority bench,
01:50the Chief Justice's appointees should also be appointed.
01:57And among the top 5 judges,
01:59and Maulana is still not agreeing.
02:01Is this correct?
02:02For us, there is no judge who is a headache.
02:08Who comes, who goes,
02:10the JUI has no authority over this.
02:12Sir, it is for the saints,
02:15for those who have a headache,
02:17they want to make a change.
02:19You listen to me,
02:21I will complete the sentence.
02:23The thing is,
02:25who has to sit on the throne,
02:27who has to sit on the throne,
02:29this is not our headache.
02:31The PTI can definitely be of the Muslim League.
02:33One thing you must have heard in the press conference,
02:36which Maulana Fadlur Rahman sahib said in Karachi and Lahore,
02:39that if they come to our conference,
02:41then Sadd Bismillah.
02:43If they don't come,
02:45then the first conference was neither yesterday,
02:47nor today, nor tomorrow.
02:49This means that they will have to come
02:51to our conference.
02:53If they come, then Bismillah.
02:55If they don't come,
02:57then they can go and do their work.
02:59We will do our work.
03:01So the matter is stuck.
03:03It is not as easy as it is being understood,
03:05but it is not as difficult as it is being made.
03:07Sir, the problem is that
03:09if the matter goes this way,
03:11then you will say that
03:13the matter is not so easy.
03:15If it goes that way,
03:17then you will say that it was not so difficult.
03:19You are covering both sides.
03:21That is the reason.
03:23We are thinking about the constitution.
03:25We are thinking about human rights.
03:27We are thinking about the interests of the Pakistani people.
03:29We are thinking about the strength of the institutions.
03:31And if there is a demand from somewhere
03:33to leave Pakistan, leave the democracy,
03:35leave the people, leave human rights,
03:37everyone should go to hell,
03:39so that you can play your role.
03:41This has not been done by Maulana Sahib before,
03:43nor will he do it today.
03:45Maulana Sahib,
03:47you have to bear the punishment.
03:49You will bear the punishment for five more years,
03:51but at least you will not take any steps
03:53against the constitution.
03:55Sir, look at this.
03:57Now your emotions are coming out.
03:59It seems that the matter is very tight.
04:01But Maulana has a credit.
04:03Give credit to Maulana.
04:05Give credit to Maulana.
04:07Give credit to Maulana.
04:09Maulana raised the flag of human rights.
04:11Maulana Fazlur Rahman did it
04:13in this whole exercise.
04:15He stopped the amendment
04:17in article 8.
04:19He saved the high courts.
04:21Whoever wants to transfer,
04:23should be transferred.
04:25So Maulana Fazlur Rahman
04:27gets credit for this.
04:29Because it has nothing to do with any political party.
04:31It has to do with human rights
04:33and a high court.
04:35In your opinion,
04:3751% of the matter is out
04:39or 51% of the matter
04:41is about to be trapped?
04:43No, no. 70% of the matter is decided.
04:4530% of the matter is being discussed
04:47and we hope that
04:49will also be resolved.
04:51Absolutely right.