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Married at First Sight UK S9 Episode 21
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00:00:00Previously, after Hannah faced the wrath of the group, one groom offered a welcome distraction,
00:00:20but it was an indiscreet proposition from Stephen that prompted outrage, and Polly's
00:00:37attempts at damage control fell short of Adam's expectations.
00:00:55Tonight
00:00:56I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
00:00:58She's finally seeing who I actually am.
00:01:01The impact of the retreat hits home.
00:01:03I felt betrayed.
00:01:04My head's been scrambled.
00:01:06It almost felt like sex was a sales pitch.
00:01:08Pushing some marriages
00:01:09This is going to be hard to hear.
00:01:11This is why I prepare myself for the worst.
00:01:14to breaking point.
00:01:15At that moment, I knew I could not stand him.
00:01:19Just like squeezing blood from his phone.
00:01:21Were you trying to make Stephen jealous?
00:01:23You can't make a guy jealous of you that doesn't give a ****.
00:01:26Why do I want to even speak to this girl?
00:01:27But it's a shocking revelation.
00:01:29Have they not been sneakily kissing?
00:01:32Red watch?
00:01:34You consider what you did an act of infidelity.
00:01:37That delivers the biggest blow of the evening.
00:01:39She deserves to know.
00:01:40I think it's bullshit.
00:01:41Snake.
00:01:42Hannah, zip it.
00:01:43Don't tell me to shut up.
00:01:44You're a sly guy.
00:01:45It is very clear that this relationship is done.
00:02:02Is that I love you?
00:02:03Or is it just love?
00:02:04It's not either.
00:02:05And I'm up to you.
00:02:06Don't you point it.
00:02:07Wouldn't you just say, I love you?
00:02:08Oh, dear.
00:02:09As the couple sat down to talk,
00:02:10As the couple settled back into apartment life,
00:02:19they're reflecting on their time away.
00:02:26The retreat done us good,
00:02:31because obviously a lot of the other couples weren't getting on.
00:02:34It just makes you realise what you do have.
00:02:36We've come back and I feel cured.
00:02:41And now that we're understanding each other better,
00:02:43I don't see us clashing as much.
00:02:45I'd say we're in a good place now.
00:02:47The best place we've ever been in.
00:02:51The retreat was really nice, wasn't it?
00:02:53Definitely.
00:02:54Me and Kieran, we had a lovely time at retreat.
00:02:57It's really difficult being around me when I have HMDD,
00:03:03but we are in a good place
00:03:05and he's been really supportive.
00:03:08The bumps that we have, like, we can sort it out.
00:03:13I'm just pleased, like, we're actually speaking.
00:03:16There's people in there not even speaking.
00:03:18Oh, no.
00:03:20Oh, I'm pulled over.
00:03:31I do feel like me and Adam still have some things to resolve.
00:03:34I shouldn't have said I twist with Stephen on the retreat.
00:03:38I hold my hands up, I **** up,
00:03:40but he isn't understanding my point
00:03:43and why I said the comment that I made.
00:03:46Unfortunately, I feel like the Stephen comment,
00:03:49it was a step back, wasn't it?
00:03:51It felt like a bit of a kick in the teeth, you know what I mean?
00:03:54Yeah, but there's been stuff that you've said
00:03:56that's been a huge kick in the teeth for me.
00:03:58I was fuming, not going to lie.
00:04:01You disrespected me, made me look muggy in front of all the other girls.
00:04:05I have done one thing.
00:04:07One.
00:04:08Whereas you've done multiple little things.
00:04:11I know, and that's what was annoying me at the dinner party,
00:04:14because the things I've done, we've kind of got past and got over,
00:04:17so then at the dinner table, for you to be saying to me,
00:04:20but you did this, you did that, it felt like it was...
00:04:22I wouldn't say that's fair to say.
00:04:23I wouldn't say that they have been gotten over.
00:04:25We're just going to argue if we keep talking about it.
00:04:27I think we just need to forget it.
00:04:32I don't really know where me and Polly stand at the moment.
00:04:35Going into the commitment ceremony, I've got a really hard decision to make.
00:04:39We're kind of just waiting for me to either get over this comment
00:04:43or move on.
00:04:50We've had a pretty good week.
00:04:51We've had a really good week, best week we've had in ages.
00:04:54We've had a snog, we've, you know, tested the waters there.
00:04:59It was almost like you went, I'm leaning in,
00:05:01it's got to be everything all at once.
00:05:03For me, it moved really quickly in a week.
00:05:08Sorry.
00:05:11I think the retreat's been really good for Emma and I,
00:05:13but you look at other couples in that process,
00:05:16and they're falling in love,
00:05:17and they've got these really strong relationships.
00:05:20So we know we've made progress, but have we made enough progress?
00:05:24I'm not sure is the answer.
00:05:30I felt like the retreat would be for us to go and, like,
00:05:32listen to the birds chirping, go for walks.
00:05:34We did none of that.
00:05:35All we did, I felt, I felt, was we sat,
00:05:37consoled Hannah with her tantrums and, you know, her issues,
00:05:41and, oh, this and, oh, Stephen, that, Stephen,
00:05:43just get on with it.
00:05:44Like, she drained me. I'm sorry, but Hannah drained me.
00:05:47She sucked the fun out of me,
00:05:49from the morning till the evening, till the good night.
00:05:52I can feel that you're stressed. Yeah.
00:06:00So we moved back into the apartment.
00:06:02Obviously, Stephen isn't here.
00:06:03He doesn't even have any of his stuff here.
00:06:05He hasn't spent a night in the apartment.
00:06:08In my heart, I'm like, come on, let's just try. We've got this.
00:06:11I don't feel like I've had the opportunity to be a wife.
00:06:16I still care about the boy.
00:06:18I don't just wake up and not give a crap about someone.
00:06:21There is still some care there.
00:06:23I loved the guy I married.
00:06:24I still love him.
00:06:26There is still some care there.
00:06:28I loved the guy I married.
00:06:30And I am gutted.
00:06:32I have tried and tried and tried from day one.
00:06:34I've kept my ring on.
00:06:35I've told everyone I've still got a husband.
00:06:38I'm proud of how I've held my own.
00:06:40I'm proud... Oh!
00:06:45I can't wear my make-up. I'm going to the sea.
00:06:48I'm proud of myself. I'm proud of how I've held myself,
00:06:51and I've tried my best,
00:06:53and sometimes you take a risk and it doesn't pay off.
00:06:56And...
00:06:59..I tried, and that's all you can do.
00:07:03Fuck.
00:07:12That Stephen is here for the wrong reason.
00:07:15I just wish you could have seen my reaction when Holly told me.
00:07:18The minute we have a tiff, she's trying to jump in.
00:07:21Embarrassing, isn't it? Embarrassing.
00:07:23Like, he's shown himself up massively.
00:07:25He blatantly lied.
00:07:27Do you know what? I've kept my cool with him,
00:07:29but this man thinks he's better than what he is.
00:07:32I do not understand where he thought
00:07:35he was going to ever shoot a shot with me.
00:07:38Like, I'd have shot him right back down, and you know that.
00:07:47I have a few things to get off my chest today
00:07:49at the commitment ceremony.
00:07:51I do know that something went down at the retreat
00:07:53between Orson and Hannah.
00:07:58He literally wants to stay in the process by any means necessary.
00:08:02I thought he had a little bit more shame than this.
00:08:06But clearly he doesn't, so he's shown himself.
00:08:10I've lost so many brain cells since being married to Orson.
00:08:14I'm actually a little bit embarrassed that I married him.
00:08:18I actually pity him a little bit.
00:08:21Pity the fool.
00:08:32I have no idea if Rochelle's going to turn up today.
00:08:35She didn't turn up for the dinner party.
00:08:37She didn't turn up for the mixer.
00:08:39She didn't turn up for this relationship.
00:08:42But there's rumours knocking about,
00:08:45and I would want Rochelle to come and sit and say her peace.
00:08:51Because I'm ready for her.
00:09:16Welcome, everyone, to your fourth commitment ceremony.
00:09:21Look at the person next to you.
00:09:25And think about what they're giving you and you're giving them.
00:09:31Today, we want you to lay it all out on the table.
00:09:38No secrets, no shame.
00:09:41No secrets, no shame.
00:09:46Now, with that in mind, let's begin.
00:09:51First up on the couch today is...
00:09:55Holly and Alex.
00:10:04Hello.
00:10:05And quite the different couple sitting on the couch.
00:10:09We did a 360.
00:10:10Wow, you did?
00:10:12Holly, one of the things we talked about with you
00:10:16was addressing those issues as they come up in the moment
00:10:19rather than allowing them to percolate.
00:10:21How's that been going for you this week?
00:10:23A lot better.
00:10:25Right.
00:10:26I felt the only way we could progress is if I let him in
00:10:29for things I struggle with and my triggers and my traumas.
00:10:32And he was like, I get it.
00:10:35And he just held me and was like, I got you, it's OK, let out.
00:10:39And thank God I bloody did.
00:10:41Yeah.
00:10:42He understood.
00:10:44And the next day I woke up and I thought, I could go and run a marathon.
00:10:47That feels so light.
00:10:49It's just an amazing feeling just to know that, like,
00:10:53she's finally seeing who I actually am.
00:10:55You can talk to me.
00:10:57And you tried it and it worked.
00:10:59Good, good work.
00:11:02Wow, so how has this conversation changed your relationship?
00:11:07We're just so much more calmer around each other, more relaxed.
00:11:11I feel like everyone else is more relaxed around us.
00:11:13They're not sat there like, they're going to blow.
00:11:16Like, everyone just seems so much more chill around us.
00:11:19I'm glad that we've had the tiffs and the arguments that we've had
00:11:22because when we come back, we come back 20 times more stronger than before.
00:11:27Where to next?
00:11:28What do you need in order to deepen this relationship even further?
00:11:32Just continue doing what we're doing.
00:11:34Because everything else is fine.
00:11:41Are you telling Charlene not to ask?
00:11:45I feel like we've put the puzzle together.
00:11:47It's just making sure it stays in place.
00:11:50Wonderful.
00:11:51Well, why don't we go to a decision?
00:11:53Holly, you first.
00:11:56I feel like a weight's lifted off my shoulders.
00:11:59I feel like we make a good team as well.
00:12:01You're daft.
00:12:03You make me feel stunning.
00:12:05Aww.
00:12:06And you make the best cups of tea ever.
00:12:10So, for that reason, my darling, I'm going to stay.
00:12:14Yeah.
00:12:17Wonderful.
00:12:18Over to you, big man.
00:12:20Yeah, I'm just enjoying getting to know Holly more
00:12:23and spending time with each other.
00:12:25We just have the best time.
00:12:27And there's no reason why she shouldn't be a million percent confident
00:12:30in who she is because everybody loves her, you know,
00:12:33and she's a great girl.
00:12:35I love it.
00:12:36So, no-brainer.
00:12:38Stay.
00:12:44Well, you two are an amazing example
00:12:46of what happens when a couple does the work.
00:12:49Yeah.
00:12:50You're doing it.
00:12:51Don't give up, guys.
00:12:53Don't give up.
00:12:54It's a great message to everyone else.
00:12:56We're really proud of you.
00:12:57Thank you so much.
00:12:58Keep it up.
00:12:59Well done.
00:13:00Well done, guys.
00:13:01Well done.
00:13:08All right, next up, if we could have Ryan and Shannon.
00:13:12Come on up.
00:13:16Yeah, hello.
00:13:17Welcome.
00:13:19Good to see both of you.
00:13:21Second commitment ceremony.
00:13:23Yes, we're here.
00:13:24Yes, you were here together.
00:13:26How's the week been for you both?
00:13:28It was an interesting week.
00:13:30We had our first little argument.
00:13:33OK, first argument.
00:13:34Yeah.
00:13:35OK, unpack it for us.
00:13:36It was like a big misunderstanding, honestly.
00:13:39Ryan said something that kind of threw me back to one of my exes.
00:13:44You'd kind of said you were done.
00:13:46I took that as done completely,
00:13:48but he meant done with the conversation.
00:13:50I said, I'm done with it.
00:13:51I've gone back to sleep, waking up, and Shannon's not there.
00:13:55And afterwards, we've just said, like, wow,
00:13:57that was just a mountain was made out of a molehill.
00:14:00This one misunderstanding, Shannon,
00:14:02you take and react extremely to it.
00:14:06I just panicked.
00:14:08We all, all react to fight or flight.
00:14:12Any time we feel under threat, what do we want to do?
00:14:16Fight or we want to flee?
00:14:18You chose flight.
00:14:19Instead of taking a pause, sleeping on it,
00:14:23waking up the next morning, resolving it.
00:14:26I'm terrible at that.
00:14:27OK, but now you know.
00:14:28Now I know.
00:14:29Right, now you know.
00:14:30OK, so now, as the dinner party progressed,
00:14:34Ryan, you looked agitated, and you looked worked up.
00:14:40Can you elaborate as to why?
00:14:45Holly came over to me and said, Stephen had said,
00:14:48if Ryan doesn't come to the dinner party,
00:14:51he's going to shoot his shot.
00:14:54So now I couldn't trust you with my wife.
00:14:57So Holly, when did you hear Stephen say this?
00:15:00So before Ryan had come into the mixer,
00:15:02Stephen had shouted me over to him.
00:15:05And he said, so obviously you know Shannon's my type.
00:15:12If Ryan doesn't come to the mixer tonight,
00:15:14then I'm going to stick it on Shannon.
00:15:17I would never use the word stick it on,
00:15:19because it's not what I use anyway.
00:15:21You was going to try it on her, though, yeah?
00:15:27Come on, was you going to try it?
00:15:29You've got to let me answer.
00:15:30I would not have done that without speaking to you,
00:15:33and I've said that.
00:15:34A blatant lie.
00:15:38You're a sly guy.
00:15:40You're a sly guy.
00:15:58So if Shannon was interested,
00:16:01you would have attempted something.
00:16:04Had I spoken to you as much, I think I would have done it.
00:16:08You're the slyest guy I've met.
00:16:10And I'm saying it.
00:16:11Slyest guy I've ever met.
00:16:13I would have spoken to you.
00:16:14Of course you would.
00:16:20You're laughable, lad.
00:16:22I feel for that girl, because you've been grilling her
00:16:25all this experiment, and you have done exactly the same.
00:16:29Do you have anything to say to Ryan or Shannon?
00:16:31I don't really, Paul, Paul, let's leave it.
00:16:33I'm good, you keep it to yourself, mate.
00:16:35You keep your distance from me, I'll keep your distance,
00:16:37and we'll respect that.
00:16:47All right.
00:16:48So now, back to you two, all right?
00:16:51You had your misunderstanding this week, OK?
00:16:54You had all this happening in the group,
00:16:56but do you feel like there's been progress this week?
00:16:59It's made me stronger, this.
00:17:00It's been great, hasn't it?
00:17:02I've been speaking about moving to Manchester.
00:17:04Have you? Yeah.
00:17:05All right, this is good.
00:17:06As long as I get a puppy.
00:17:10This is big.
00:17:11So you've already resolved the distance challenge?
00:17:14Yes, that's done.
00:17:15Wow. It's done.
00:17:17This is good.
00:17:21OK, so now, let's go do a decision, then.
00:17:24Do you want me to go first, Paul?
00:17:25You want to go first?
00:17:28You've already started, go.
00:17:30So this decision is very easy.
00:17:32Listen, I didn't expect this when I came here.
00:17:34I'm not the one to hit it off straight away.
00:17:37And I said to her one day, I said,
00:17:38where have you been all my life?
00:17:40And this decision is absolutely, like, very, very easy,
00:17:44and it's stay.
00:17:47That's nice.
00:17:49OK. OK.
00:17:51Shannon, hit us.
00:17:53Ryan has made me feel so comfortable,
00:17:55probably more comfortable than any man has ever made me feel.
00:17:59Which is big.
00:18:00And you've made me this sloppy mess
00:18:02that I don't know what the fuck's happened to me.
00:18:05So, obviously, I'm going to stay.
00:18:07All right.
00:18:14Have a great week.
00:18:15Thank you, Mel. Thank you, Paul.
00:18:16Thank you, Shannon.
00:18:28Next up on the couch...
00:18:30..Amy and Luke.
00:18:38Hey, guys. Hello.
00:18:40How are you both?
00:18:42Yeah, OK.
00:18:43Yeah, you both doing well?
00:18:46We've been very busy at the retreat, haven't we?
00:18:49Yeah.
00:18:50Sort of involved with all the drama.
00:18:54We felt like it was bringing us together
00:18:56because we were both, like, helping the situation together,
00:18:59but since coming back to the apartments,
00:19:01we just feel like we're, like...
00:19:05I felt like, yeah,
00:19:06the retreat was supposed to be a kind of relaxing time.
00:19:09But, you know, Amy, bless her, she was, like, 24-7 babysitting,
00:19:14which was good cos I saw really good signs in Amy,
00:19:17like, she's such an angel,
00:19:18but I felt like I was the nurse and the patient
00:19:20and I felt like the janitor, you know, clearing up after.
00:19:24We were supporting her.
00:19:25I know we were supporting, but look what it's done to us.
00:19:28It wasn't very relaxing and, you know,
00:19:30a few bits happened at the retreat that have affected us,
00:19:33I would say affected me definitely.
00:19:35What happened was, I came back from a lads' day
00:19:38and I found out that Amy picked Nathan as the sexiest husband.
00:19:42She sat here last week saying I was a 12 out of 10
00:19:45and now she's saying she finds Nathan as the sexiest,
00:19:48when she could have said me.
00:19:49So what's Nathan?
00:19:51That's crazy.
00:19:52You can appreciate that other people are attractive.
00:19:55Does that mean I can't have any friends with penises?
00:19:58No, it's not that.
00:19:59I'm just saying that's, you know, that's how it affected me
00:20:02cos then I'm thinking,
00:20:03is it because he's got that fancy jacket and fashion?
00:20:05Right, so it kind of brings out an insecurity.
00:20:07Yeah.
00:20:08Would you say that it made you experience this situation
00:20:12in a jealous way?
00:20:13No.
00:20:14No?
00:20:15No.
00:20:16No?
00:20:17No.
00:20:19Potentially, yeah, I do.
00:20:21OK.
00:20:22And I feel a bit guilty for it.
00:20:23In my opinion, you are the most beautiful girl in this group,
00:20:26which is hence why I chose you.
00:20:28It was doubly painful for me.
00:20:31It was just a game.
00:20:33Fair enough.
00:20:35I can see that it really hurt you.
00:20:37I think it might be worth you just reflecting,
00:20:41away from this space, about this conversation
00:20:44and maybe you need some reassurance
00:20:46that actually you're her number one.
00:20:49I think that's how the two of you can really move forward here.
00:20:53But let's look at the dinner party,
00:20:55because one thing that I noticed was that
00:20:57there was quite a lot of affection between the two of you.
00:21:00Intimacy, would you say, is quite good?
00:21:02Yeah, great.
00:21:03Yeah.
00:21:04Is that to say that the intimacy is at another level?
00:21:11Maybe.
00:21:13It was well-earned.
00:21:15I made love to my woman, not...
00:21:19..not just had sex, but I made love.
00:21:22OK, OK, OK.
00:21:24I mean, we're being honest, I'm not saying anything.
00:21:27It was worth the wait.
00:21:29I appreciate your honesty.
00:21:33On that note, let's go to positions.
00:21:36Amy, would you like to go first?
00:21:38Erm, so...
00:21:42..we're still very early in our journey
00:21:45and I do believe we can both work on things.
00:21:49So I've decided to stay.
00:21:52CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:21:57And Luke, what's your decision?
00:21:59This whole process is about learning, isn't it?
00:22:02And things come in life to test us, I think,
00:22:05and, you know, with Amy by my side,
00:22:07I feel ready to take that test.
00:22:10And I want to continue, I want to work hard for it,
00:22:13you know, despite all those insecurities that I have.
00:22:15And I think you will bring the best out of me, Amy,
00:22:18so despite all that, I'm staying.
00:22:25I think my advice for you guys this week is
00:22:28press the reset button, have some fun together
00:22:32and enjoy the rest of your week.
00:22:34Thank you. Thank you.
00:22:39APPLAUSE
00:22:44Next up to the couch, can we have Polly and Adam.
00:22:48Come on up.
00:22:50APPLAUSE
00:22:53Hello. Hey, guys.
00:22:56How are you both? Yeah, we're not bad, thank you.
00:22:59All right, good. It's good to see you both.
00:23:01All right, so now we're looking forward to hearing about the retreat.
00:23:04So let's get into it. What happened?
00:23:07Bit of an argument.
00:23:10So it was on the girls' day.
00:23:14Polly said that she would twist to another husband
00:23:17because he's more emotionally available and talks about his feelings.
00:23:21So I was shocked, upset, disrespected and just...
00:23:26It just wasn't a nice feeling. Interesting.
00:23:28Because I thought I was making so much effort
00:23:31and coming out of my comfort zone.
00:23:33And I felt like we was going in the right direction
00:23:36and getting better.
00:23:37To then hear that, it was kind of like a kick in the teeth.
00:23:40Interesting. All right, now, who did Polly say that she would twist with?
00:23:45Steven, my good friend.
00:23:48I think one of the comments when she told me was,
00:23:51he's gave me more emotional conversations than you have.
00:23:56And I was like, I've been here three weeks, not three days.
00:23:59Wow. So it's just another shock for me to hear.
00:24:02Right. So, Polly, I have to go to you.
00:24:04Why did you say you would twist with Steven?
00:24:08Because of the qualities that Steven has that I wish Adam had.
00:24:15And what are those qualities?
00:24:17Emotional availability.
00:24:20Voicing how he thinks and how he feels to other people
00:24:23without feeling ashamed.
00:24:25Being secure in himself.
00:24:27To be able to just say it.
00:24:30Because I don't feel like he shows me that he cares about me enough.
00:24:34I felt like I'd come out of my comfort zone complete
00:24:38and I was trying to get us to the best place we could be
00:24:41and then that was, like, hurtful, you know what I mean?
00:24:44I think that's obviously made Polly realise that obviously I do care
00:24:47because it's hurt me, so...
00:24:49But it shouldn't have had to have taken me saying,
00:24:51I want qualities in someone else for you to show and tell me
00:24:54how you feel about me.
00:24:55I mean, he's never said that I'm sexy or I'm beautiful or I look gorgeous.
00:24:58I know, but I've been giving a bit more affection,
00:25:00like the little kiss and stuff. I know sometimes I forget...
00:25:03On the cheek.
00:25:04Yeah, but I'm not a PDA person, you know what I mean?
00:25:06But it's even when we're at home.
00:25:08Even when you leave to go...
00:25:10I know, but that's because I've just had our first massive argument
00:25:13to the point where I felt betrayed.
00:25:15And I've said to you, the last thing I'm going to do now
00:25:17is want to give you a kiss when my head's been scrambled.
00:25:20But that's not fair when it's taken us so long to get to where we are.
00:25:23Of course, I know it's not fair, but...
00:25:25Now I feel like I'm being punished for one comment I've made
00:25:27after the fucking ten that you've made.
00:25:29To me, it was a big comment. It wasn't just a jokey comment.
00:25:32It was a massive comment to where everyone else couldn't believe it.
00:25:38You have to understand what I've had to sit and listen to and deal with
00:25:42that I've taken on board and understood.
00:25:44I have not thrown anything in your face...
00:25:46No, I get that, but it's more... ..that you've said.
00:25:48So for you to react how you did was unfair.
00:25:52You still haven't given a lot.
00:25:55I know that you feel like you have, but you haven't.
00:26:00I do obviously see a future with me and Adam,
00:26:02and I do genuinely believe that it can get there.
00:26:05But at the moment, I'm just seeing the potential.
00:26:08And it's like, is this just another fucking relationship
00:26:11at nearly 30 years old?
00:26:13So here's the thing. The worst thing in the world
00:26:15is to fall in love with potential.
00:26:18So if your objective is what you think Adam will be in the future,
00:26:22you might as well leave today.
00:26:25You should go to the decision.
00:26:39The worst thing in the world is to fall in love with potential.
00:26:43So if your objective is what you think Adam will be in the future,
00:26:48you might as well leave today.
00:26:50You should go to the decision.
00:26:55you might as well leave today.
00:26:57♪♪
00:27:04You can go to the decision.
00:27:06♪♪
00:27:10The conflict that we had
00:27:12maybe shouldn't have happened how it did,
00:27:14and I apologize for that,
00:27:15but I feel like I am more affirmed in certain ways
00:27:19by Adam and his reaction.
00:27:22So I put stay.
00:27:24♪♪
00:27:29Adam.
00:27:31♪♪
00:27:35I did have a feeling that did she say that
00:27:37to make me think, oh, I'm jealous,
00:27:39I'm gonna try harder.
00:27:41But me personally, a comment like that
00:27:43more would hurt me and make me retract.
00:27:46I'm sorry if I can't give you what you want right now,
00:27:49but there is two of us here,
00:27:51and there's two people's feelings.
00:27:53And I know you want something,
00:27:55but then I need things as well.
00:27:57♪♪
00:28:00But...
00:28:02But there's definitely feelings there.
00:28:04Otherwise, that comment wouldn't have bothered me.
00:28:06I'd have just been like, whatever.
00:28:08So I put stay.
00:28:11♪♪
00:28:17All right.
00:28:18We'll see you back here next week, all right?
00:28:20Thank you so much.
00:28:23Good job.
00:28:24♪♪
00:28:30Ah...
00:28:33Okay.
00:28:35Next up on the couch...
00:28:39Hannah and Stephen.
00:28:41♪♪
00:28:46Okay.
00:28:48Hello.
00:28:49Hello.
00:28:50Hello where I'd like to begin is where we last saw you and that was right here on this couch
00:28:58Hannah you wrote
00:29:00Stay Stephen you wrote leave, but you agreed to continue to work on your marriage
00:29:07Do you believe you did no?
00:29:10Why?
00:29:11It's after I'm off to meet
00:29:13Awesome with a few of the boys just goes awesome. Why do you hold my hand to make him jealous?
00:29:18So the respect thing then just disappeared straight away, so I walls went straight up
00:29:23So let's just figure this out right now Hannah. Were you trying to make Stephen jealous?
00:29:29You can't make a guy jealous of you that doesn't give a fuck about you, so that's not what that was
00:29:32It was just a bit of banter for someone trying to make me smile and trying to make me have a bit of a giggle
00:29:39He didn't say one word to me after the commitment ceremony he avoided me like the plague he couldn't look at me
00:29:44I don't feel like you can sit here and say
00:29:46That's the reason why you weren't trying is because me and Orson had some banter because you checked out way before that
00:29:54All right, so now
00:29:57You're at the retreat. Did you stay together at the retreat? No?
00:30:00We had an argument as soon as we moved into the lodge
00:30:03You both had an argument. I wouldn't call it an argument. I'd call it an ambush and then I leave the room
00:30:08Okay, because that's what he does
00:30:10This whole me and Orson having banter situation
00:30:12You held on to it held on to it didn't speak to me
00:30:16Stewed on it then waiting until we're in a room together dropped a bomb on me
00:30:21Waited for me to react because I do
00:30:23And then you're like see that's why I don't really like you and then you darted out the room. Okay, that's so toxic
00:30:29What was the bomb that was dropped that me and Orson were pissing around and having banter and pretending to hold hands?
00:30:34Okay
00:30:36I said i'll try at the retreat and I was trying to get into that house
00:30:39I said i'll try at the retreat and I was trying to get into that headspace
00:30:43But there was all this kind of stuff going on with hannah and the girls or whatever
00:30:48I was kind of just listening to it all and all i'm hearing is she's trying it with everyone's husband
00:30:54It's just making me
00:30:55Completely check out even more. I'm like, why do I want to even speak to this girl, right?
00:31:00So let me ask the group this this this kind of notion of hannah trying it with different guys that seems to keep coming up
00:31:08And clearly that had a lot of impact on you especially the girls day
00:31:12So were you feeling that? Yeah
00:31:15Okay, me and hannah discussed it, but it felt like she was like very flirty with ryan
00:31:23I was just very vocal in saying to hannah that I don't like how she's gone about things
00:31:28I don't like what she said to certain people when we've all made her feel so welcome
00:31:32and
00:31:34I called a spade a spade. She deserved to know so I told her and then she started getting lippy to someone else
00:31:40Just didn't sit well with me
00:31:43Right. I mean this is interesting for us to know because that was happening hannah, but at the same time steven the whole
00:31:50You know you shooting your shot with with shannon that's playing out, too
00:31:56It's ironic don't you think yeah, of course ironic. Yeah. Yeah
00:32:01Yeah
00:32:02Do you think that these rumors about hannah and the guys did that influence your behavior whatsoever with hannah?
00:32:13It probably did influence it yeah
00:32:16I don't see boys and girls differently. So if I have like banter with one of the boys
00:32:20I don't see that. It's like oh, that's a boy
00:32:23So I should be careful how I speak to them over a girl
00:32:26So
00:32:30Okay, so
00:32:31Hannah, what are you thinking at this point? Are you thinking I want to try to make this work still?
00:32:36I don't want to make this work. What's your thought?
00:32:42It's still in the back of my brain was like i'm here for a marriage like
00:32:47There is probably things we can work on
00:32:48Yes, I was like every single time we have an argument I check out like more and more and more and more
00:32:53But I still wasn't finished like I still you were still you were still in. Yeah
00:32:57Yeah, the best case scenario for me was can we squash it?
00:33:04We've had this experience
00:33:06Let's remember that we actually had a really good start
00:33:08And I wanted to say thank you for how he made me feel on the wedding day because I felt incredible
00:33:15Hearing that what are you thinking? Does it change anything?
00:33:22I
00:33:24Will never deny the fact our wedding day was special but no
00:33:34A lot has been said about two from both of you tonight
00:33:41so
00:33:42Let's go to a decision steven. Would you like to go first?
00:33:50Last week I
00:33:52Before I put leave I was still in the mindset of I don't think
00:33:56I
00:33:58Can be the man you need
00:34:00But my mindset is very much now. I don't want to be your man
00:34:07I don't think you're in it for me. I think you're in it for a pros. I don't know what the reasons are
00:34:11And why you're here
00:34:13So for those reasons
00:34:15I'm gonna leave
00:34:17Okay. Okay. Thank you
00:34:22Hannah um
00:34:33I think this is probably my opportunity to
00:34:38Try and leave this process as amicably as I can with everybody
00:34:42As much as whatever's happened happened, I do think deep down you are a good guy and I do think you'll make someone happy
00:34:51It's meant to be about marriage and ours hasn't worked so I am gonna leave
00:35:02Okay, all right
00:35:05Thank you for your vulnerability here on the couch, we want to thank you for your participation
00:35:10And we truly wish you the best in your future relationships. Thanks guys. Thank you
00:35:35So
00:35:46Next up on the couch, can we have kieran and christina?
00:35:50Yeah
00:36:02So, how was the retreat you two i'm full of drama, um, but it was good
00:36:08We had one day where?
00:36:10Was a little bit questionable on my behalf
00:36:13What happened there for you just got in my head?
00:36:16It pmdd here and it was a bit just a little bit tough
00:36:21I'm gonna get a mosh. It's okay. You're okay
00:36:25You're okay
00:36:27It's just like the worst feeling ever and you just no matter how much you try and fight it
00:36:32Like when you are in that moment, like like it just feels
00:36:37It just feels really just dark and horrible and
00:36:41I think what makes it worse almost for me is because I know like how it affects kieran
00:36:50But I just don't want it to like just push you away that's what i'm scared of
00:36:58I'm more careful about what I see and what I do when pmdd's
00:37:02Yeah, because you don't know what it's going to be that's going to be the set off but it's just
00:37:07Don't know what it's going to be that's going to be the set off
00:37:10but it's it's horrible seeing christina like that and I think I can really I really empathize with you don't and I
00:37:16Have cried with christina quite a lot when I can see how emotional she's getting
00:37:21You know, we haven't got that
00:37:23Intimate connection at the moment even though obviously we are like this because that's all we could like can do and I i'm just feeling
00:37:30Rejected. Okay
00:37:33And just so i'm clear you're talking about the cold sore yeah, is that right nearly nearly gone, okay good
00:37:40I just want to feel wanted by you
00:37:43It's not just about sex but it's been since the honeymoon, man
00:37:48I've done it once since the honeymoon. All right
00:37:53I think i've distanced myself
00:37:56Intimacy wise because I don't I don't I don't want to get excited and I don't want to wind her up
00:38:00You know, it's just like we're friends living together again like I know you've taken a step back
00:38:07I wouldn't say i've taken a step back. You just said you had
00:38:10You've distanced i've i've distanced but I wouldn't say i've took a step back
00:38:16I just would love to ask you kieran and and really ask you to be really honest with yourself here
00:38:22Would you say you've been holding back on the physical affection?
00:38:26Just because of the cold sore
00:38:30Or has it also been because of christina's reaction during the pmdd?
00:38:36Um
00:38:38Yeah, it's a mix of both. It's not I can't blame it all on the cold sore. I can't and i'm not going to do that
00:38:44So if you're being real
00:38:47What is it that you'd like to say to christina at the moment? Um
00:38:52Don't hold back no i'm not let us get me words though. Um, yeah, take your time
00:39:00And this is going to be hard to hear I think it's something you've probably heard before and I really don't want to be
00:39:05the guy that says it
00:39:07but
00:39:10I'm really questioning at the minute
00:39:13um
00:39:19If i'm able to sustain a relationship
00:39:23With someone that suffers with pmdd
00:39:30So
00:39:47I'm really questioning at the minute
00:39:56If i'm able to sustain a relationship
00:40:01With someone that suffers with pmdd
00:40:11I know karen which is why
00:40:14I've like said to you from day one like whatever you say to me. It's like nothing. I haven't heard before
00:40:22So
00:40:28It's fine like it's fine
00:40:33But i'm christina it's not fine
00:40:36This is not fine for you
00:40:39No, but I like I understand like I under I understand and like respect karen's feelings in this
00:40:47But what about your feelings? Well, it's fucking shit, right? Yeah
00:40:51Ladies
00:40:59This is why I prepare myself for the worst in every situation
00:41:05And I live in the moment for every good bit that I have
00:41:12I'm not saying that I don't want to be with you because I do. Um, I want to give this
00:41:16You're just not i've got questions, of course, I think everyone in this room's got questions about their relationship
00:41:21But i'm not saying I don't want to be with you. That's not what i'm saying here
00:41:25Right now all i've got in my head is if you can't
00:41:28If you're gonna struggle it's gonna be a struggle for life because I can't change
00:41:33But that's something that i'm working out whether I can
00:41:43I just don't want to get hurt
00:41:46I
00:41:48Everything takes work and i'm prepared to work at it christina
00:41:54And i'll work at it until there's no bones left
00:41:59Kieran
00:42:00Good on you for being so incredibly honest just now. I know that was very hard for you to say
00:42:07I also know that this is not you signaling to christina. I want out. I know that
00:42:13Um, it might have felt a little bit that way in the moment, but I think the fact that you're both sitting here right now
00:42:20Opening up the way that you are showing such incredible
00:42:23Care and empathy for each other is such a strong sign that you have incredible potential as a couple
00:42:33How about we go to the decision oh and i'm scared now christina, why don't you go first
00:42:38um
00:42:40I know i'm the biggest pain in your bum. I know that I am hard work
00:42:47but
00:42:47I'm looking forward to seeing what's more to come. There's still so much I want to explore with you. So for that reason
00:43:01And kieran
00:43:03This week you've shown us that you are there for us
00:43:06Even when I think no one can be there for us
00:43:09Um, and you've allowed us to open up in ways that i've never been able to open up in a relationship before
00:43:15without being attacked
00:43:16So I think that in itself speaks volumes about the person that you are
00:43:21So thank you very much. And for that reason I wrote stay
00:43:29Have a wonderful week. Thank you. Thank you very much
00:43:39So
00:43:46Next up to the couch nathan and lacy
00:43:52Hello, hi guys, lovely to see the two of you nice to see you all so
00:44:02Tell me about the retreat. How was it for you?
00:44:05I had a great great time. Yeah, did you have a good time?
00:44:08I was having a good time. Yeah, I just um
00:44:12I don't know
00:44:14I think something's bothering me
00:44:16He said the other day. Um
00:44:18I'm not gonna say I love you like I love you not love you
00:44:22I love you until after the experiment to see if the distance worked
00:44:27But that a little bit upset me because I was like are you only giving me
00:44:32Half then I don't want to like
00:44:34Give her my heart fully
00:44:36We finished the experiment and she's like, oh the distance ain't working. It's like what's the point of that? You know, I mean
00:44:41What you're doing is you're trying to hedge yourself. You're trying to make it safe, but that's not how love works
00:44:47Love works as you dive fully into the pool. You can't toe dip into love
00:44:53Would either one of you consider relocating
00:44:57I would in the middle. I need my mama near me. I'm not gonna lie. I need my mama bear
00:45:02I think if I can find the work depending on circumstances, I could relocate. Yeah
00:45:09For me I can definitely feel in love. I just feel like the word is different saying the word, you know
00:45:17Okay, so the word
00:45:19Is of high importance to you
00:45:21Yeah, what i'm here to tell you is the action is of higher importance and you're already exhibiting the action
00:45:28You've just said you will move
00:45:31Yeah, i'd like the the word to be in like a the right timing, you know, I mean a special
00:45:36Moment, so you're saying that you already love lacy, but you're waiting for the moment to tell her that is
00:45:43important to you
00:45:45maybe
00:45:49So lacy, where would you say you are in terms of love
00:45:55Yeah, no, I do feel it like yeah
00:45:58Yeah
00:46:04I think it's very clear to see that you guys are in a really good place. So let's go to a decision
00:46:13Um
00:46:14What i've wrote it was easy, of course
00:46:18You know, I can see that we are growing closer, you know, i'm really still happy with you and that's why i've put stay
00:46:28Thank you lacy and nathan what's your decision so obviously you're going to take on board what you've said
00:46:33And uh for the same way as lace, so i'm also going to stay
00:46:39Okay guys, so a big well done for sharing how you feel today, okay, have a good week
00:46:45Thank you
00:46:57Next up on the couch emma and casper
00:47:08Let's look at your week
00:47:10Definitely we're having a far better week in terms of just being around each other laughing being more comfortable
00:47:18The first half of the treat for me was really good
00:47:21um, but there was a slight change for me in the second half with
00:47:25emma's behavior. Oh
00:47:29Emma
00:47:30Was getting advice from the girls and everyone else going. We just got to sleep with him
00:47:34If we get intimate we're going to accelerate our relationship and that's not how I go about things
00:47:40I need the emotional side first before I
00:47:43Get to the intimate side from someone and i'm we're still working on that in my opinion
00:47:48And michelle gave me some advice to get a kiss
00:47:51Thought right i'm going i'm going we're going in
00:47:54So you did have a kiss?
00:47:57And how would you describe that experience casper?
00:48:03I think she's very good kisser. I can tell you that much for free
00:48:06Um, yeah, you enjoyed it. Yeah, it was good kiss. Yeah, but there were comments made afterwards
00:48:13After we just kissed that were way too far forward and crossed
00:48:16lots of lines
00:48:18She basically went why don't you try to stay and then we can shag for a week
00:48:21I mean wasn't the most romantic pitch i've ever heard if i'm being completely honest
00:48:25She scared him off
00:48:28I think that was just me exploring things, but it was always had a few wines. I got a bit excited
00:48:33It almost felt like sex was a sales pitch
00:48:35Yeah
00:48:37And that wasn't attractive for me
00:48:41Casper writing leave in the last commitment ceremony, although I expected it
00:48:46It built a fight in me
00:48:50to want to
00:48:52Work on things
00:48:54and
00:48:55I think what I meant to say was I think there are things for us to explore when it comes to intimacy
00:49:02Now i'm scared that casper
00:49:05Has ended this week the same headspace that he ended last weekend
00:49:13I think it goes back to not putting pressure on yourself and doing things at a pace that feels right for you
00:49:17But also remembering a kiss and sex there's so many other ways that you can form intimate connections with your partner
00:49:27Okay, let's get to the decisions am I first
00:49:31Or last
00:49:34I'm proud of myself for
00:49:36Listening and showing you that I can take on feedback and I want to learn and I want to develop
00:49:41And I think there are definitely things to explore with us
00:49:46But I hear you. I would like to yeah spend some more time together
00:49:57Casper what's your decision?
00:50:00I mean, honestly, I am denied
00:50:06A few days ago I was relieved and to be away and gone
00:50:11out and
00:50:12Thinking that's that's where my head's at
00:50:15And so that felt really good when I wrote leave i'm not gonna lie, you know, I let go a lot of emotions
00:50:20I'm reluctant to say stay and then almost being again feel dragged along into something that I don't feel comfortable with
00:50:30Because you know, I've been to a lot of times a couple of other places and i've seen a lot of people
00:50:35And it's it's it's very lonely
00:50:37You know, I feel very much through the effort you feel very empty when I'm doing the things that I can if I'm doing the thing
00:50:43That I can do and it's a very lonely moment
00:50:46So I feel a lot of pressure
00:50:48I feel like i need to do something to do with this because I don't feel good because I'm not confident
00:50:55I feel like I don't have that confidence
00:50:57I'm reluctant to say stay and then almost be again feel dragged along into something that I don't feel comfortable with
00:51:10But
00:51:12We're still building on this
00:51:15Emma and I you know, I think we deserve to keep
00:51:18Having another shot this for a little bit longer and see where we get to because we have made strides. So for me I wrote
00:51:24state
00:51:27Oh
00:51:31Thank God we wish you all the very best
00:51:43Next up on the couch Sasha and Ross
00:51:46I
00:51:55Was your time at the retreat was it nice to get away? No, Heidi. Oh
00:52:02Tell the country so I've been being away from everything. I
00:52:06Felt like it was a taste of hell. So I'm gonna be a really good person from now on
00:52:10Okay, and so apart from the physical
00:52:14Discomfort shall I say was there anything else that made it like hell for you?
00:52:19Obviously all the drama has affected like the girls a little bit like we usually quite a happy family
00:52:25But there has been some explosive arguments between the girls, which is really rare
00:52:30For as a couple
00:52:32It doesn't really affect us like when we're at the dinner party start with him sitting on the end and it all happens there
00:52:37We mean just like our little bubble
00:52:39I'm a very argumentative person. So yeah, we're good. I
00:52:45Just hate being away from like the girls down so I just go like see my husband
00:52:52Now we know that the two of you are choosing not to open up and share too much of the physical journey with us and
00:52:57We respect that but what's important for us to understand is are the two of you talking about it?
00:53:03And do you feel that things are progressing in the right direction for you?
00:53:09Yes
00:53:14Very concise
00:53:17The two of you have created a really safe trusting environment, yeah, you're going really well
00:53:23100%
00:53:25Well on that note, let's go to the decision Ross over to you first
00:53:32I'll be with you every minute and
00:53:34And let's see what next week brings diet shoots they always
00:53:43That's how I was gonna start my speech
00:53:47And we've learned a lot about each other and I want to spend the rest of my life with you and you know that
00:53:55So I wrote stay always
00:53:58And
00:54:03Yes, that comment was not lost on us I know right no no no nice little mic drop there from Sasha, thank you so much
00:54:18Next up on the couch, can we have
00:54:21Awesome and Rochelle
00:54:31Hello
00:54:35So I understand it's been a tough week for the two of you yes, yes, yeah
00:54:45Why don't we start with where
00:54:48Why don't we start with where we left off at the last commitment ceremony
00:54:53So, can we just go back a little bit to the commitment ceremony?
00:54:58I made it quite clear to him that I was ready to leave and I wanted to go back to work and
00:55:04If I left I could get home in time for my daughter's 21st birthday
00:55:08But when I re-entered the process after I left the first time I'd say like, yeah
00:55:12I'm not gonna leave again until we're on the same page
00:55:15Austin said that he wanted to stay another week
00:55:19Which to me was a bit surprising because at this point I've been very open and honest with him
00:55:23I basically told him I don't think I'm attracted to you. I
00:55:28Don't overly fancy you
00:55:30Wow
00:55:32Wow, wow, what continue continue? Wow? Wow, what no just continue the truth
00:55:36I know I know that you don't have a great relationship with the truth awesome. So it's okay
00:55:40So, you know I said to him I think you're quite selfish
00:55:45You basically have locked me in for another week. You've dragged me along for your experience when you know
00:55:50There's nothing there then on the day of the retreat. That was my daughter's actual birthday
00:55:56I was like visibly, you know upset
00:55:59And you know Austin's making this big show of singing and enjoying himself, you know
00:56:05At this point now i'm getting worked up and I haven't even been able to wish her a happy birthday
00:56:09And I haven't even been able to wish my girl a happy birthday
00:56:12And he's singing
00:56:14in my face
00:56:17And at that moment I knew I could not stand him
00:56:21You couldn't stand me from before that I can't say something
00:56:25So, you know, I couldn't stand you before. Why did you want to stay?
00:56:28You're the one that said you want to stay to work out?
00:56:30What if if we're matched? No, no, no, you're you are lying. Yeah, that's exactly what you said
00:56:35You are
00:56:37You are a stinking liar. I mean because I was the one who told you I wanted to leave
00:56:41I was the one who told you that I wanted to get back for my daughter's birthday
00:56:44So don't sit here and lie. All right, so your lies don't work with me. Awesome
00:56:53You finished can I speak now stop if you can tell the truth try and tell the truth. Okay guys, it's very clear that things have
00:57:00completely broken down here
00:57:05I'd like to hear from both of you
00:57:08Where you believe the relationship is at right now. Awesome. Let's start with you. There is no relationship right now
00:57:18Michelle at the retreat orson and hannah have been bonding
00:57:25And they have had talks about recoupling
00:57:28In
00:57:34Oh, wow, yeah. Wow indeed orson's backed himself. He's he's finally found his queen
00:57:42That reinforced that orson isn't really here for the right reasons
00:57:48He's even had a little bromance going on with steven while behind steven's back
00:57:54orson and hannah were um, you know
00:57:58talking amongst themselves
00:58:01Which continued once we returned from the retreat and I walked in last night and found orson and hannah
00:58:10Holly and alex almost like, you know having a little double date set up
00:58:18So all that did was reinforce
00:58:22We weren't we were all set in separate
00:58:28Shannon was
00:58:34No, I think I think it's bullshit because them to have lips
00:58:42They've what kissed they've kissed him and hannah. Oh, you've kissed him and hannah very last night of the retreat
00:58:49You'll be kissing him
00:58:58For you
00:59:07No, I think I think it's bullshit because them to have lips
00:59:15They've what kissed they've kissed him and hannah, oh you've kissed him and the very last night of the retreat
00:59:22You'll be kissing him
00:59:28So why the fuck you trying to defend when they've been that's what we're talking about
00:59:36Fucking snake man snake you me. Yeah you
00:59:42Where was the double date
00:59:45Have they not been sneakily kissing I know you didn't pay for fixing
00:59:49I'll tell him out don't talk about no double date business. There was no double date business four of them were in the apartment
00:59:55Let me rephrase that Alex talking shit. I'm not talking shit, man
01:00:02You guys want to say
01:00:06Don't don't don't don't don't
01:00:08Say to me don't do that to me Alex. I'm asking if you got something to say
01:00:12Can you just I think I don't think you need to turn to Rochelle and say you're talking fucking shit
01:00:15And then get a lie say oh, you're my fucking snipe the certain ways of addressing things calmly look
01:00:20You know what Rochelle it were in a double date this happened
01:00:23You don't need to attack attack attack attack and I've sat here, and I've watched you attack the women either end
01:00:28And it's fucked me off because I didn't like it Alex
01:00:36Don't take out on me. I'm just trying to calm the peace in the room who is taking anything on you
01:00:40Please respect before oh my god. I'm about
01:00:44I
01:00:51Was annoyed I told Lacey that I think she's a snake and now you've got Sasha coming at me
01:00:57Just be quiet your voice is just going straight through me like if I was Ross
01:01:02I'd be telling my wife pipe down not everything needs your two pence
01:01:08Alex has definitely overreacted and it is embarrassed me
01:01:11I can't be with a man who treats my friends like that
01:01:16Because if he's gonna treat my friends like that
01:01:18It can happily treat me like that
01:01:24Now amongst all of the talking it sounded like someone said you and Hannah have kissed yes
01:01:33On the last night of the retreat me and Hannah sat and was speaking. I will show the kiss
01:01:38There was a little connection there, I'm not gonna lie. There was a little connection in
01:01:42What I had was done. I know what she was in was done like so
01:01:48Honestly, I didn't feel like I was walking on anybody's toes or like disrespecting anyone
01:01:54The fact is that this is a process isn't it yeah?
01:01:57And so if you don't want to be with someone you both understand the rules yes
01:02:01And the rules is that you make that decision here, and you let us know
01:02:05It's not that you then go and kiss another person's wife
01:02:14I take that
01:02:21That's done it mate
01:02:30Do you consider what you did an act of infidelity
01:02:33In this process yes
01:02:36What impact did you expect that to have on Rochelle
01:02:40If I'm being totally honest man, and this might come across a song wrongly I
01:02:48Didn't really care about Michelle in that moment
01:02:55At the end of the day Orson from when I said I didn't like you and I didn't want to be with you
01:03:00At the end of the day Orson from when I said I didn't like you and I didn't fancy you and and I didn't see a
01:03:05Future with us. I mean at that point. I thought you would have gathered up your dignity and wanted to leave anyway
01:03:11You know why would you have wanted to stay?
01:03:14I mean I know I was trying to honor my word
01:03:16But what where was your self-respect and your dignity like you were you that desperate to stay in the process?
01:03:23Because
01:03:25What I'm sensing from Orson is a desperation to stay in the process by any means necessary
01:03:33He saw an opportunity with Hannah to recouple and stay in the process he jumped at it
01:03:41You're an embarrassment to yourself at this point
01:03:43Do you know I mean because it's like Hannah bless her went around all the different guys trying to latch on somebody
01:03:51Yes to stay in the process and Orson is the only one who's stuck
01:03:55It just reeks of
01:03:57Desperation and just like you know no self-respect. It's just I find it embarrassing
01:04:03You know
01:04:04Okay, well look it is very clear that this relationship is done
01:04:09We do need to go to the decision
01:04:11awesome to you first I
01:04:16Came here with the right intentions I
01:04:19I
01:04:20Feel like I was trying and trying and trying and trying just like squeezing blood from a stone
01:04:27Stop the performance Orson stop the performance. I'm you so the performance if it was that bad
01:04:36You know on that note like just get me out of here, please and to you Rochelle
01:04:42Before I came into this process I asked for a strong
01:04:47Intelligent
01:04:50Man who has a bit of integrity and I haven't found that in Orson at all I
01:04:58Find him quite weak-willed
01:05:00He's you really aren't as sharp as you think you are it's pretty obvious
01:05:05I think to most people that you're a bit simple
01:05:11He definitely lacks
01:05:13Any shred of integrity, so one week too late, but it's obvious
01:05:20leave
01:05:27There are certain expectations around respect
01:05:31Some of those points of respect have been broken by both of you by you Rochelle not turning up to dinner parties
01:05:37By you Rochelle not turning up to dinner parties showing disrespect not only to awesome, but to everyone else here including us and the experiment
01:05:45Orson
01:05:46kissing another person the two of you are showing very low level of regard for this entire process and
01:05:55That's something we don't take lightly
01:05:58It's really disappointing
01:06:02You can both take a seat
01:06:07I
01:06:14Three rounds to one and Rochelle's
01:06:24Well, this has been both a challenging
01:06:28an
01:06:30enlightening commitment ceremony
01:06:32Please say your goodbyes to those leaving the process. Thank you
01:06:37I
01:06:56Came on here for love I came on here to find my person
01:07:00Hannah was bouncing from husband to husband. She kissed awesome. I didn't give it my all but she didn't deserve my own
01:07:07I
01:07:12Do feel a bit bad about what me and Orson have done we tried to shut it down just out of respect for everyone else
01:07:18but actually we keep gravitating back towards each other and
01:07:22Stephen checked out ages ago. There was no trying there was no support
01:07:27So I don't feel like I got a fair shot at marriage
01:07:37I definitely do not regret kissing Anna
01:07:45Rochelle picked up everything really and there's only so much a man can take
01:07:57I think Orson's just shown his true colors and my intuition about him was right all along
01:08:03I genuinely don't think that Hannah likes Orson. I don't even think he really likes her
01:08:09he's just trying to
01:08:11Recoup some of his manhood that he probably feels has been stripped from him during this process. It just screams of desperation
01:08:20Orson is a clown and I just wanted out of the circus show
01:08:26Your brush
01:08:29I talk to you in a bit. I don't know. I talk to you
01:08:33These beefs with me why is he talking to my husband?
01:08:37Why is he want to talk to my husband? Talk to me? I think I fucked her
01:08:40Yeah, I fucked her
01:08:43Alex has just got an attitude problem. I can completely see where Holly's been coming from this whole time
01:08:48I'm not gonna tolerate it. Why is he gonna talk to you and not me?
01:08:53I'm getting involved in
01:08:56I'm not your problem. So your wife isn't your problem. I'm trying to get involved in drama
01:09:08Right now it doesn't feel like Ross has my back but we're married. I'm his wife
01:09:12I would have expected Ross to say don't talk to my wife that way
01:09:15I
01:09:18Told you from there. I don't get involved in trying to find your problem Ross. Oh, yeah
01:09:22Well, I'm gonna burn another shit. That's a thing. Yeah, but it's not it's not that shit. It's more than Alex
01:09:27Is it against you then? Yeah, I get that. You should have your wife's back
01:09:31Oh
01:09:34My drama is your drama
01:09:43Next time I'm interested to see what you don't like about me honey. There's a lot more than what you think
01:09:48There is it's love hate week. Good luck. Good luck. You're gonna need it where honesty is crucial lack of intimacy
01:09:56You lack depth. What's that mean for some couples happy tears?
01:10:01It draws them closer together. Is it the most romantic thing someone's ever done for you? Yeah, I am feeling quite giddy. It's just
01:10:12But others can't even get the task off the ground I'm really unhappy
01:10:17Going home today. Why?
01:10:20Get me out of there. I am NOT running after my wedding
01:10:24Well, Sasha and Ross and he went to Sydney throws it up the wall face their biggest challenge yet
01:10:30I am NOT comfortable with you being in this apartment. I am gonna struggle to recover from this
01:10:37Fucked up my head
01:10:54You