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00:00This is the actual prince, right here, Hibo.
00:26I guess he was maybe 18.
00:30Who's Hibo?
00:31Johnny.
00:33But we always called him Hibo.
00:39He was like a big brother to me, always kidding each other.
00:44Johnny's sexual abuse, that was a big scandal.
00:48Yeah.
00:50I didn't see anything like that.
00:56I think it's the most foolish crime in the history of mankind.
01:03Johnny Kitagawa, who was recognized by the Guinness World Records as the cause of Japanese
01:09entertainment industry.
01:10His portrait was wrapped in a veil.
01:13In front of me?
01:14Yeah, in front of you.
01:15Sorry.
01:17Yeah.
01:20It's okay.
01:22It's a man.
01:30Yeah, it's a man.
01:36She has a lot of talent.
01:39But she's also a criminal.
01:41It's hard to keep an eye on her.
01:46I don't think it's right to judge a woman who's mentally ill.
01:51But I think this is a big problem for Ms. Mary.
01:57What led to the increase in the number of victims
02:00was the release and concealment of Ms. Mary.
02:02This was a big issue.
02:05The media and the people around her
02:08are making a big deal out of it.
02:11I don't think a single person can handle such a monster.
02:16HEARTBEAT THUMPING
02:31SPEAKS JAPANESE
02:33After the issue of sexual assault became a big issue,
02:36a former talent was interviewed.
02:41I'm Egito Shio from Four Rivers.
02:43For the first time, I was allowed to sing and dance.
02:49It was at the Johnny's office.
02:52Four Rivers!
02:58Four Rivers appeared in NHK's Kouhaku Uta Gassen seven times in a row.
03:04They made their name known to the world through Johnny's.
03:08HEARTBEAT THUMPING
03:16The management, the producer, the director,
03:20all of it was in Johnny's head.
03:23He's going to draw the future of the boy.
03:28And it's amazing because it's right.
03:33The way he looks at people
03:36is ten or twenty times better than a normal person.
03:44I think there was a great achievement in entertainment.
03:49Where do you think his motivation came from?
03:55It's a hot topic now.
03:58The fact that the Johnny's office has grown so much
04:02is because of sexual assault.
04:04I think his instinctive way of looking at boys
04:11is different from that of a normal person.
04:15Do you think his instinct is inseparable?
04:21Yes, I think it's inseparable.
04:24The instinct to like boys
04:28and the instinct to entertain boys
04:32are the same.
04:34That's why people want to go to Johnny's.
04:41The world's largest music industry.
04:45The Johnny's office has established its own genre of male idols.
04:55I worked at TV Tokyo until the end of March, 2023.
05:03I joined the company in 1986.
05:07From the second year, I was in charge of the Johnny's office.
05:14Johnny is surprisingly frank.
05:17He's someone who can easily talk to us ADs.
05:22I think he's someone who's good at grasping people's minds.
05:31We, the creators, are very much in demand of viewership.
05:37We want to bring out the talent that viewers want.
05:41We want to make something better.
05:43That's why TV has developed so much.
05:47The Johnny's office has a lot of viewers.
05:51If you're on a TV show, you get viewership.
05:54If you're on a TV show, you get viewership.
05:57If you're on a variety show, you get viewership.
06:00For a TV station, that's a great deal.
06:07Johnny rarely appears on stage.
06:11When he passed away, he was given an album.
06:22Making idols is making people.
06:25That's the only thing worth doing.
06:28Every child has their own beauty.
06:38Johnny was born in 1931 in Los Angeles, USA, to Japanese parents.
06:45His older sister, Mary, was four years older than him.
07:07My name is Minnie Takahashi.
07:11Many, many years ago, I was friends with Johnny and Mary.
07:19What is this?
07:22This is Koya-san.
07:25Their father was the bishop here for a number of years.
07:34My parents were members of Koya-san Temple.
07:37My parents were members of Koya-san Temple.
07:40I'm sure that's how they became acquainted with the Kitagawa family.
07:49The Kitagawa family decided to return to Japan two years after Johnny's birth.
07:57The Pacific War
08:03When Johnny was 10 years old, the Pacific War broke out.
08:08He lived in Wakayama.
08:12My grandfather lived in Wakayama.
08:17That's where I lived during the war.
08:21At night, there was an air raid.
08:25The whole area was bombed.
08:29I had to run away from the bomb.
08:33I was a kid, so I didn't know what was going on.
08:38After the war, 18-year-old Johnny returned to the U.S. with Mary.
08:48My father put a lot of pictures in the album.
08:56Oh, this is Yasuko-san.
09:01Johnny's sister, Kitagawa Mary.
09:07Ah, Johnny Kitagawa.
09:13So I must have been a teenager.
09:17Every year, we used to camp at the beach.
09:22It was fun.
09:25My brother and I sometimes invited a lot of people over for a party.
09:32He said he was going to show me how to dance.
09:37It was fun.
09:40YASUKO'S SISTER
09:52This is the house that Yasuko-nechan and people from Japan,
09:56after they landed in Los Angeles,
09:59they came directly to this house and lived here for some time.
10:03This is my grandmother.
10:07The brothers came back after 16 years.
10:10The one they relied on was Taemi-san's grandmother, who had a relationship with the Kitagawa family.
10:17The meals got cooked for Yasuko-nechan, and he went and marveled on this hill.
10:24I believe that their father sent them here to maybe further their education
10:28and to get a better life here.
10:32They came alone.
10:34So that was pretty scary for them, I'm sure,
10:37coming to America when they had not been here for so long.
10:43Their personalities are kind of opposite Johnny and Mary,
10:47because he's so quiet and she's so outgoing and very forceful.
10:53It's Yasuko, especially, that I think brought her brothers in.
10:58Under her wing, she took care of them,
11:00but she's the one that forged the path, forged the way,
11:03so that they would be more comfortable here.
11:07Mr. Mary later told us about his life at the time.
11:14It was not an easy life.
11:19I was a babysitter and a shop girl.
11:24She couldn't assimilate into Japanese-American society,
11:29and she was homesick for Japan, so she decided to return.
11:36Just to fit into American society, I think it had to be very difficult.
11:41And that's why she became so powerful in Japan,
11:44because she had that strength, that drive, you know, to succeed.
11:48I think that's what it was.
11:53In my opinion, it's probably a combination of big sister and mother figure.
11:58Since they lost their mother at such a young age,
12:00I think she was kind of like taking over the family.
12:04That's why she was very self-confident,
12:06probably because of the way that she was raised and how she grew up.
12:10And she had to, had to be strong like that.
12:13And that experience, I think, only strengthened them,
12:16strengthened their bond together.
12:18And it doesn't surprise me that when they went back to Japan,
12:21they were still continuing to work together, you know, as a family unit.
12:52Have you confirmed it?
12:53Yes.
12:57Why did you think it was a good idea to interview her this time?
13:03Well, first of all, as an entertainer in general,
13:08there are a lot of rules,
13:12and you can do whatever you want in a place like a Chinese office.
13:17So I thought it might be a good idea to do something from here.
13:24Before I joined the company,
13:26I used to hear my boss, Mr. Johnny,
13:29and other talent people talking on TV.
13:32So I had an image of him as a so-called boss.
13:36But when I first saw him,
13:38I thought he was just a janitor.
13:41He didn't seem like a big deal at all.
13:44The most important part of a talent's development,
13:48up to its debut,
13:51is that you don't do anything after you make your debut.
13:55After that, it's all up to the lady.
14:01To be honest,
14:03I've heard a lot about Mr. Johnny's achievements in the past,
14:08and I'm sure you all know this,
14:11but I didn't really feel like Mr. Johnny was doing that kind of thing in the company.
14:17But one day,
14:19I heard my boss's senior
14:21talking about it on the back cover of a magazine.
14:25I saw it with my own eyes and heard it.
14:33I don't know if I'm talking too long.
14:35There's a strange car.
14:37I don't know what number it is.
14:39Let's go over there.
14:52In the late 1980s,
14:54former talent members wrote articles about Mr. Johnny's achievements.
15:01However, this issue was never raised much.
15:06I've come to Japan to investigate the story of Johnny Kitagawa.
15:37I want to get rid of all traces of Johnny Kitagawa in the world.
15:47The Johnny's office was about to close.
15:53How did he get so powerful?
15:59In 1952,
16:01Mr. Johnny, who was of American nationality,
16:03was executed during the Korean War.
16:08When he returned to Japan,
16:10he began to live in Washington Heights, a US military facility in Tokyo.
16:16He gathered the children in the neighborhood and formed a baseball team.
16:21Then he met a movie.
16:30I went to see the movie West Side in Ginza.
16:35I thought it was cool.
16:38At that time, I thought,
16:41I want to do something like this.
16:46So I gathered everyone and went to the Johnny's.
17:02Johnny's was Western, and I was Japanese.
17:06I was the type to dance hard.
17:09I was envious of him.
17:13In 1962,
17:15Mr. Johnny often visited the talent fair where Mr. Akimoto belonged.
17:23The manager of the fair was Mr. Nawataro.
17:27His wife knew Mr. Johnny and Mr. Mary.
17:33Mr. Johnny told Mr. Nawataro,
17:37Mr. Johnny told Mr. Nawataro,
17:40I have a baseball team with young children.
17:44I want to make a group called Johnny's with five or six people.
17:48Mr. Nawataro said,
17:51I talked to the president.
17:53He said he wanted to dance and sing.
17:58I was very impressed.
18:01The first group produced by Mr. Johnny's, the first Johnny's.
18:07The boys singing and dancing were revolutionary at the time.
18:16There was a lot of talent.
18:19In front of the Nawa studio in Ikebukuro,
18:22there was a female student.
18:25I was very envious of her.
18:28I went to see her in front of the Nawa studio.
18:35I never imagined I would be a victim of her.
18:48I was in my room when she came into my bed.
18:51I touched her.
18:53She kicked the bed.
18:55I was very angry.
18:58I opened the door.
19:00It was Mr. Johnny.
19:03Someone in the room said,
19:06Mr. Johnny did this to you.
19:09I told the president.
19:12The president said,
19:14Get out of there right now.
19:17I got angry.
19:20A few minutes later,
19:22Ms. Mary came to me.
19:25She said,
19:26Mr. Johnny, it's time to pull you out of the Nawa studio.
19:30Then the president said,
19:33Then you have to pay for the costumes,
19:36the studio,
19:37the lessons,
19:38and the meals.
19:40You have to pay.
19:42That's how the trial began.
19:46The article in the newspaper at the time.
19:50The trial also discussed sexual assault.
19:56The members of the Johnny's who stood in court denied the damage.
20:03What about the sexual assault?
20:07I don't remember.
20:11One of the members who testified,
20:14Ryo Nakatani.
20:17Twenty years have passed since the trial.
20:20The results of Mr. Johnny's testimony were published in a book.
20:26Mr. Johnny,
20:27I grabbed it from the top of my pants.
20:33I was attacked by a sense of shame and a sense of duty.
20:36I even feel fear.
20:39It was a really sad experience.
20:44The words of the defense were decided in advance.
20:48I can say it now.
20:50No, I have to say it.
20:54I testified a lie in court.
21:03Among the four members, Mr. Nakatani was the quietest.
21:09I thought he couldn't move forward as a talent.
21:16I thought he would be famous if he did everything he did.
21:23That's what I thought.
21:30Mr. Nakatani couldn't tell the truth in court.
21:36After more than half a year of coverage,
21:39the results of the trial were revealed for the first time.
21:46Excuse me.
22:07I came here in 2003 after I died.
22:12I thought it would be nice if people could hear
22:16what kind of feelings I had when I left this world.
22:27I am his younger brother, Ryo Nakatani.
22:30I think he was shining.
22:33I am proud of him.
22:37When I heard about him,
22:40I was always dancing on stage.
22:43I was smiling brightly,
22:48as if nothing had happened.
22:51But my heart was in a mess.
22:54It was really a mess.
22:57That's what I said.
23:00Mr. Nakatani had been sexually abused since elementary school.
23:05Later, he started to go to church.
23:13When I saw the cover of his book,
23:16it was dark and I didn't have a good impression of him.
23:21I wondered why he was publishing a book like this.
23:25I felt disgusted.
23:28I received the book, but I didn't read it.
23:34I didn't know that he was sexually abused.
23:39When I read it, I understood.
23:42It was only recently that I read it.
23:50I don't think he had anyone to talk to.
23:57He couldn't sleep.
24:00He drank a lot of sleeping pills.
24:07He must have been lonely.
24:19I want him to stop being sexually abused.
24:24I want him to solve this problem as soon as possible.
24:29I want him to stop creating more terrible situations.
24:36I think this is the truth of my brother.
24:43I'm sorry I couldn't help him.
24:49I couldn't help him.
24:52I couldn't help him.
25:00In the 1980s, the Johnny's Group
25:04began to create popular groups one after another
25:08and began to grow rapidly.
25:13In the 1980s, the gross domestic product
25:17included related companies was less than 100 million yen.
25:22However, in 1987,
25:25when Genji Hikaru made his debut,
25:29the gross domestic product exceeded 300 million yen.
25:33In addition, SMAP and Arashi continued.
25:37The total gross domestic product until 2005
25:41exceeded 1.4 billion yen.
25:45The Johnny's Group was a group that was born in the 1980s.
25:49The Johnny's Group was a group that was born in the 1980s.
25:52I think he was a very sensitive person
25:56in how to give people the surprise they wanted.
26:00I think he was a very sensitive person in how to give people the surprise they wanted.
26:05For example, roller skating was popular in the United States at the time.
26:09When I saw that, I thought of Genji Hikaru
26:12and started to dance and sing.
26:15I started to think of Genji Hikaru and started to dance and sing.
26:20Johnny's brilliant work and talent
26:24and his magic
26:27and his magic
26:30and his magic
26:33and his magic
26:36and his magic
26:39and his magic
26:50Egishi of Four Leaves
26:53continues to perform more than 100 times a year.
27:06Egishi of Four Leaves
27:09continues to perform more than 100 times a year.
27:15Johnny's Group gave people so much fear
27:18Johnny's Group gave people so much fear
27:21and taught them how to dance and sing
27:24and taught them how to dance and sing
27:27and taught them how to dance and sing
27:30and taught them how to dance and sing
27:33It's hell.
27:38Even though you can see how serious sexual abuse is
27:41Even though you can see how serious sexual abuse is
27:44do you respect Johnny?
27:47I do.
27:50Why?
27:53He made me who I am today.
27:56That's what humans are like.
27:59I want to thank Johnny
28:02I can only thank Mr. Gianni for that.
28:07I'm sure there are some people who don't understand, but...
28:15I understand what you're trying to say.
28:20Sexual harm is a taboo.
28:26Of course, the young people who were harmed...
28:31I think they've had a very difficult life.
28:39I don't know what they think about it.
28:43That's all I can say.
28:46I'm just saying thank you for making such a great city.
28:52As the people say,
28:57if you say it's the worst, it may be true.
29:22It's been a while.
29:30Gianni came in.
29:33I was dancing around here.
29:38I was dancing around here.
29:42He came straight to me.
29:46I said, is that you, Oshima?
29:49That was the first time we met.
29:55I was about 14 years old.
29:59Were you already harmed?
30:01Yes, I was.
30:05I was beaten up.
30:08I was blind.
30:11I've been living here for about two years.
30:14I've been harassed more than 200 times.
30:19I've been to Gianni's house a lot.
30:23There were a lot of juniors there.
30:29While we were talking,
30:32it became normal.
30:36It's normal for everyone.
30:40He's always smiling even when he's in pain.
30:46I think that's what he's good at.
30:53For example,
30:57this is a picture of us
31:01when we were shooting at a club.
31:06When we were shooting an idol program,
31:09we were in contact with them every day.
31:13When we were talking in the dressing room,
31:16we were able to get that kind of image.
31:20Gianni came to us,
31:23but he ran away.
31:26He didn't let us touch him.
31:29Gianni came into the futon and said,
31:32I think I'm going to make my debut soon.
31:35We were talking like we were playing pranks.
31:40We shouldn't have missed it
31:44because they were in pain.
31:51At least we were adults.
31:57It's not good.
32:01I think we have to tell them.
32:05I think it's our responsibility
32:09as adults to take care of each and every one of them.
32:32For Gianni's Jr.,
32:35the main cause of the accident
32:39was that Gianni had a paraphilia.
32:50One time, he was driving
32:52and I was in the passenger seat.
32:55We were talking about the past.
33:00During the war,
33:02I went to Wakayama with Mary.
33:07The man who took care of me there
33:10loved me very much.
33:15I felt that he didn't hate me.
33:20If he didn't like me,
33:22I don't think he would have said he loved me.
33:24I think he had that kind of feeling.
33:29I don't think we should overlook that.
33:45The wife of President Nao and Mary
33:48have been close since Wakayama.
33:51They got along well.
33:55The wife of President Nao told me
33:58that Gianni had a paraphilia
34:03since he was a child.
34:08She told me that my brother had a paraphilia.
34:13That's what Mary told me.
34:26Why did you hide your identity?
34:31I was afraid of the relationship
34:36between Mary's top man
34:40and Gianni's strong relationship.
34:45If you look at it from the outside,
34:47Gianni is the president of Gianni's Association.
34:51If you look at it from the inside,
34:53Gianni is Mary.
34:55Everything is decided by Mary.
34:59Gianni is an overwhelming dictator.
35:04Mary is written on the phone in the office.
35:09In my impression,
35:12Gianni is the scariest person in his life.
35:18In terms of talent promotion,
35:22Gianni is a big man.
35:24That's why everyone relies on him.
35:39People often ask me
35:42what I think of the relationship
35:45between Gianni and Mary.
35:48I think they were very lonely people.
35:52Gianni Kitagawa's movie, Seikagai,
35:55Mary knew it well.
36:01She was afraid that
36:04it would be exposed
36:07and that the victim would be exposed.
36:12Mr. Motoki, a magazine editor,
36:15was in charge of an article
36:18called Kitagawa Brothers' Abduction in 1981.
36:22He also wrote the testimony of the victim,
36:25who was attacked by Mr. Gianni.
36:31Gianni is a junior.
36:34He was attacked by Mr. Kitagawa.
36:38Mr. Kitagawa, the president of the company,
36:42said to those people,
36:45there is no doubt that
36:48Mr. Kitagawa is involved in this case.
36:52This is the truth.
36:55So I started interviewing him.
36:59Professor Asakura,
37:01a writer who later became a member of Nongshon,
37:05said that there was only Mary in his office.
37:11When Mr. Kitagawa heard about this,
37:15Mary suddenly got up from her chair
37:19and said,
37:21I'm going to take off everything I'm wearing
37:24and call the police.
37:27If you do that,
37:29you'll be arrested.
37:32When I heard that,
37:35Mr. Kitagawa was surprised.
37:39I couldn't ask any more questions,
37:43so I came back.
37:50As soon as the article was released,
37:53they attacked me.
37:56I told them that
38:00I wouldn't publish it.
38:03For a writer,
38:05a weekly edition is one of dozens of books.
38:09There are a lot of other books.
38:12I couldn't use an idol there.
38:15This was very effective.
38:18How can I suppress a publisher?
38:22Among some of my friends,
38:26I think I got the first know-how.
38:38I heard this story from O.B. of TV Tokyo.
38:43I think it was one of the events
38:47that showed the power of the Johnny's office
38:51against other companies.
38:55There's a magazine called Priday.
38:59The young members of the Johnny's office
39:03were having a party with their female students.
39:07That's what the article said.
39:10In fact,
39:12the assistant of Mr. Steinlitz
39:15of TV Tokyo
39:18was taking the boys around
39:21and making them drink alcohol.
39:25The director was called to the Johnny's office.
39:29He said,
39:31I'll publish this article tomorrow.
39:34What were you doing?
39:36I was angry.
39:38He said,
39:40He's not one of our staff.
39:43He's an assistant of Mr. Steinlitz.
39:46I said,
39:48I'm sorry.
39:50He said,
39:52I can't do that.
39:54He refused.
39:56Then,
39:58Mr. Merry said,
40:00I won't publish the talent of the Johnny's office.
40:04Not one of the Johnny's office's talent was published.
40:09In TV Tokyo,
40:11there's a period called the winter period of Johnny's.
40:16The manager of the Johnny's office
40:20is called to the Johnny's office.
40:23At that time,
40:25the manager said,
40:27Johnny is not OK.
40:29But,
40:31it was Mr. Merry who did it.
40:33But, it was Mr. Johnny.
40:35It was Johnny who did it.
40:37It was like the white and black of Othello.
40:40It was like the white and black of Othello.
40:43That was the only structure of the Johnny's office.
40:51The article in the weekly newspaper in 1999
40:54was the one that exposed the issue of sexual harassment the most.
41:00It was the 14th issue of the newspaper
41:03that pursued the issue of the office.
41:14At that time, in 1999,
41:16I was the deputy editor-in-chief of the weekly newspaper.
41:20I was in charge of all the coverage of the issue of Johnny's.
41:24I was in charge of all the coverage of the issue of Johnny's.
41:31When it was the 4th or 5th issue,
41:34it came to our attention,
41:37that the inside of the Johnny's office was quite messy.
41:41Is it ok to be silent by writing such things?
41:45How is the office going to act?
41:48This is what the office said.
41:51This is what the office said.
41:54So, we started talking with the Johnny's office.
41:58They asked us,
42:01How often are you going to continue?
42:04They asked us, How often are you going to continue?
42:05They asked us,
42:07Do you conduct this kind of investigation?
42:10I said, no, it's not an office that can do that.
42:15Anyway, that company is the company of Mary and Johnny,
42:20so it's up to the two of them to decide,
42:24so Johnny's common sense becomes the common sense of the world.
42:33That was the conversation.
42:37At this time, the director of the Johnny's office, who had a conversation with Bunshun,
42:43later told the end of the conversation at the time.
42:50When I was asked to talk to Bunshun,
42:53Mary suggested that Johnny be fired,
42:58and Mary agreed.
43:02But the next day,
43:04she turned around and said,
43:07I still can't kill my brother.
43:31I really, truly did not know the success, the power, the heights that they gained
43:42when they were in Japan.
43:45Oh, here.
43:49This is before we went upstairs to the restaurant.
43:53In Tokyo?
43:55Yes, in Tokyo.
43:57My mother took us to Japan in 2005,
44:01and that's when Yasukuni-chan met us and greeted us
44:04and sent a limousine for us and treated us like royalty,
44:08and I was just awed, I was so shocked.
44:12It was a fabulous dinner, and I remember she said
44:16she's going to order latsa awabi, because that's her favorite.
44:20Oh, here.
44:23There was a large kabuki performance
44:26by somebody that was a very, very famous actor,
44:28but we wanted to go, but of course it was all sold out,
44:31so we happened to mention it to Yasukuni-chan,
44:34and she said, oh, okay, you could go.
44:36So she sent a limousine for us again,
44:40a limo, took us right up to the entrance of the big theater,
44:44and then when we got inside, it was all sold out,
44:48there was no seats available,
44:50so the staff there at the theater
44:52put up these folding chairs at the end of each aisle,
44:55so there was like 10 chairs on each aisle,
44:58very close to the stage, and we sat in the aisle.
45:01So it was very good.
45:03She just with the snap of her fingers, and there we were.
45:15My friend, who is born in Japan, she told me that,
45:18oh, there's this big scandal in Japan, did you hear about it?
45:21And I said no, so she told me.
45:24I was shocked, very shocked.
45:29I guess things like that could happen,
45:32but I never imagined that it would be kibou.
45:36And then I heard the news that Yasukuni-chan
45:40was keeping the media from printing
45:44or airing anything about it,
45:48that shocked me too.
45:50But I believe that's why she did that, to protect him.
45:56Because after all, he's still her little brother.
46:00She's trying to protect her brother and her family.
46:06It's too bad.
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47:12The NHK staff and O.B.s interviewed 40 people.
47:18There was testimony about the low level of awareness and the talent,
47:23but no one could speak clearly about their backgrounds.
47:28On the other hand, the name of the person who had a deep relationship with the agency came up.
47:37I'd like to make a windfall that can be called a masterpiece.
47:44Hisaaki Wakaizumi, a drama actor.
47:49In 2015, when the number of appearances of the agency's talent was the highest,
47:55he became the top of the program production department and then the chairman.
48:01After leaving the NHK, he moved to the Johnny's office,
48:05and now he is the advisor of the new company, Start Entertainment.
48:13Mr. Wakaizumi applied for an interview with the agency for three times a year,
48:18but he couldn't hear the interview directly.
48:22The interview with Mr. Wakaizumi
48:28Let's go.
48:34Excuse me. Are you Mr. Wakaizumi?
48:36I'm sorry to bother you. I'm Nakagawa from the NHK.
48:39I'm sorry to bother you, but I have a letter for you.
48:41I'd like to talk to you.
48:43Mr. Wakaizumi's letter.
48:45Why me?
48:46Besides, I'm not a member of the agency.
48:48If you're not a member of the agency, I don't think you'll understand.
48:52As a member of the agency, I have a duty to do so.
48:56I'd like you to know what I'm talking about.
49:01I don't know what I'm talking about.
49:05I'd like you to know what I'm talking about.
49:12After that, he applied for an interview with Start Entertainment.
49:17He received the following reply.
49:21I knew about the article,
49:24but there was no attention in the agency,
49:27and the NHK did not report it.
49:31When I was the director of the drama,
49:34the number of contacts with the NHK continued to decrease,
49:38and there was a sense of crisis
49:41as to whether I could survive as a public broadcaster in the future.
49:46The NHK's management plan was to increase the trust of viewers
49:51of a wider generation.
49:56In order to gain a wider generation,
49:59the former Johnny's Agency became an important partner
50:03and played an important role in supporting the NHK.
50:09As a public broadcaster,
50:11I think the NHK itself is asked
50:14what should be done to continue to be supported.
50:25Mr. Kitagawa, who established the Johnny's Agency
50:28and was also active as a music producer and stage director,
50:32passed away yesterday afternoon due to pulmonary edema.
50:36He was recognized as the Guinness World Record
50:39for producing the most number-one singles
50:42and the most number-one concerts.
50:46I think he is a great person.
50:50He was warm to the juniors like a family.
50:54He is the person who made the current generation of male idols.
51:06I'm going to change it to Smile Up.
51:11I believe that it is the starting point
51:14for all victims to be saved,
51:17to be compensated,
51:20and to do so with sincerity.
51:24I think it is necessary to overcome the law
51:27in order to be saved and compensated.
51:31Ms. Ryo Nakatani, who was found guilty of sexual assault.
51:38Ms. Sachiko, her sister,
51:40sought an apology and filed for compensation on behalf of her brother.
51:47This is from Smile Up.
51:51I want to compensate Ryo-chan,
51:54even if it's just a little.
51:57I'm the only one who can do it.
52:02The person in charge of Johnny's
52:05called me first.
52:09When I told him about Ryo-chan,
52:12he said,
52:15Johnny is to blame.
52:18Johnny is to blame for everything.
52:21I will take responsibility for it.
52:24I haven't heard from him since then.
52:28When I got another phone call,
52:31he said,
52:34he couldn't afford to pay
52:37the person who published the book
52:40that accused Johnny's.
52:43He said he was going to take money from me.
52:46It became a rumor.
52:49In the end, the compensation problem was no good.
52:53In the end, he said,
52:56Johnny is to blame for everything.
52:59I thought,
53:02he didn't care at all.
53:07Smile Up replied,
53:10he didn't have the policy
53:13to not compensate the person
53:16who published the book.
53:22I wanted to ask him
53:25how he would apologize.
53:28He said,
53:31he didn't have to pay
53:34but he was still interested
53:37in how to apologize.
53:40I was really curious about that.
53:43I'm sorry, I can't give you a simple answer, but I don't know who apologizes for what.
53:58The victims are dead, so when I meet the victims, I apologize.
54:13I understand what you're saying, but I'm sure you were hurt by the book.
54:21As a company, I'm sure you must have been in a lot of pain.
54:25Did it have such an impact on your brother's book?
54:32I don't know about that time, so if you say you don't apologize,
54:38I don't know if I should apologize.
54:44He's the one who apologizes.
54:48Then will you pray in front of the Buddha?
54:53Will you go to the grave and pray?
54:57That's what Higashiyama does.
54:59That's right. It's not a matter of course.
55:03Because he's gone.
55:06I don't know why Higashiyama has to do it.
55:10Because he's the president now.
55:14I understand if he apologizes.
55:18Because he's the representative of Higashiyama now.
55:21But Higashiyama isn't Kawaii.