CABALLITO: SE DERRUMBÓ EL TECHO DE UNA PILETA DE NATACIÓN
Escombros del edificio cayeron sobre una pileta de natación y un gimnasio, provocando el colapso de la estructura. El SAME ya está en camino al lugar del accidente.
Se reporta que el derrumbe fue causado por el peso excesivo del material y la falta de apuntalamiento adecuado.
️ Guillermo Andino
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Escombros del edificio cayeron sobre una pileta de natación y un gimnasio, provocando el colapso de la estructura. El SAME ya está en camino al lugar del accidente.
Se reporta que el derrumbe fue causado por el peso excesivo del material y la falta de apuntalamiento adecuado.
️ Guillermo Andino
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00:00Pedro Goyena and Avenida La Plata, attention.
00:03They fell in a pool of debris from a construction work.
00:07The SAM would be arriving, this is the latest information.
00:10Observe the images of this true disaster.
00:13Cristian Baglietto with more information.
00:16Cristian, how are you? Good morning.
00:18How are you, Guillermo?
00:19And there we are observing the images of the Porteño neighborhood of Caballito, as you said.
00:24This is on Avenida La Plata.
00:27Pedro Goyena, collapse of the roof of a swimming pool and a gym in a construction work.
00:33What happened, according to the first information?
00:36The property collapsed due to the weight of the material.
00:39It caused, there we are observing how the structure fell,
00:43how two beams fell, there we are observing how the beam fell.
00:47And this is a product of the weight of the construction work.
00:50And there is also precaution because there may be more collapse
00:54due to the strong weight that was in the area.
00:59Today there is a very important crack.
01:01For this moment and for this reason, the firefighters are in place
01:05to close the area and we are observing the column
01:08how it cracked from the top to the floor.
01:13And it is not the only crack, but the firefighters are doing more experiments
01:16that indicate that in addition to having given up the beam
01:18and in addition to this crack that can be seen in the column,
01:21there would be a vertical crack.
01:23For this reason, they are going to close this work
01:26as they are also going to evacuate the building of Casa Linderas.
01:29I was going to ask you that, the Linderas homes must be evacuated quickly
01:34before another collapse may occur, as a result of what you are mentioning.
01:38Where is the traffic cut? Let's see, help us a little with the whole situation.
01:42The traffic is cut off on Avenida La Plata.
01:45Yes, this is Avenida La Plata and Pedro Goyena, where Pedro Goyena changes his name.
01:49There, the cut is total.
01:51This is in the neighborhood of Caballito.
01:52Avoid taking the area because there we have a very important cut
01:57due to the fact that there is an exam operation.
01:59At the moment, there are no injured operators,
02:03but there is a strong operation of firefighters and civil defense
02:07because this place is going to be closed in the area.
02:11There we are observing the number of operators
02:13who are all working with the Yellow Helmet
02:15to avoid anyone being injured for this reason.
02:20There was no need to lament any victim, the Yellow Helmet is acting on the spot.
02:23At the moment, I repeat, Guillermo, civil defense is working
02:27because the place is going to be closed.
02:29It is a miracle, it is a miracle what you are telling, Cristian,
02:32that there are no injured, because La Pileta is a well-known place
02:35that has an exit through Pedro Goyena and Bonifacio,
02:38where they usually have all shifts taken
02:40because they are the historical swimming schools for babies and boys
02:43of the neighborhood, of the best known,
02:45which is between Caballito, Almagro and Flores,
02:48where there are no shifts, there we are seeing La Pileta,
02:50they are going to learn, mothers with their children,
02:52with their babies, swimming from very early on, right?
02:55It is a very well-known place.
02:57It is called matronatación.
02:58Matronatación, yes.
02:59Listen to me, I think it is very likely that the Lindera work,
03:04with the movement of the construction itself,
03:07has generated a concause for this collapse,
03:11which you will see later, the criminal justice,
03:14if it is a wreck, in whose case the members of the construction company
03:18and the architect would be linked or somehow impeached,
03:23because, let's see, the roofs do not fall,
03:26but sometimes the movements of the buildings,
03:29caused by the movements of the works,
03:32make these things happen.
03:33It is a large construction corner that has an exit through Pedro Goyena
03:37and also through Avenida La Plata.
03:39It is the whole corner that takes many square meters.
03:41That's why I'm telling you.
03:42Cristian, are there injured people?
03:45What do you know about that?
03:47Look, what we have, the information, as I was mentioning,
03:50they are calling the architect responsible for the work,
03:54because when a work of this magnitude is not done just like that,
03:59but to make this work,
04:01the architect has to have structural calculations.
04:04Of course.
04:04Because if you don't have the structural calculations,
04:07you cause this, which unfortunately is not the first collapse
04:10that occurs in a construction work.
04:11There are many collapses,
04:13and this is because the structural calculations are not well taken.
04:16At this moment, they are looking for the architect responsible for the work
04:19or the construction company,
04:21to see what happened, where the error was.
04:24But there it is clearly observed that when a beam is given,
04:27when the wall is torn,
04:29it was clearly a structural calculation error,
04:32because if you, if the column is given,
04:35it is because the weight was greater than the beam could support.
04:38Look at the beam, it is totally broken.
04:40Yes, yes, it is impressive.
04:42It is like that, the concrete mixer must also have a responsibility.
04:47And when you do a construction work,
04:49you have to ask for the construction permit,
04:51present all the structural calculations.
04:54In other words, here there is a shared responsibility among several,
04:58and we are going to see, fortunately, there were no fatal victims,
05:02otherwise there could have been a disaster.
05:04It is a well-known construction in the area.
05:06That builds a lot on horseback?
05:08And it will be about 15, 20 years at least.
05:10With some kind of antecedent?
05:11No, no, I don't remember.
05:13Category buildings, mostly,
05:15and usually Avenida Río Bavia,
05:17but full of directories,
05:19perhaps the most prized avenues in the neighborhood.
05:22And I don't remember having any kind of inconvenience.
05:24It is a real estate with a construction company
05:26of the most traditional of the place.
05:28A lot of beautiful buildings.
05:32There have also been complaints in different neighborhoods
05:34regarding the water services,
05:38parking,
05:39how to...
05:41Of course, the issue of parking on the streets, etc.
05:44But, well, it must be said that many times
05:47the growth of neighborhoods at the building level,
05:51houses that are replaced by large buildings,
05:54and many of them luxurious,
05:56generate this type of inconvenience.
05:58That's why you have to be very rigorous when doing the calculations.
06:01Before starting a work,
06:03between two houses or next to another building, etc.
06:06In general, the middle walls are pointed out,
06:10prior to any work.
06:11I was a construction lawyer for 10 years
06:13and I also defended this situation
06:16because I had a cause of destruction.
06:18The reality is that it is not only necessary
06:20to support the strong middle wall,
06:24but also to take into account that the ground itself
06:27has movements.
06:29In other words, the floors move
06:31and this movement of the floor
06:32causes these problems to occur
06:35in the Linderos buildings.
06:38I don't think that...
06:39Yes, yes.
06:40Yes, look, I'm getting...
06:41Let's see.
06:42What the lawyer said,
06:44there are architects who are watching the program
06:47and they tell me that it is not pointed out.
06:49As it is not pointed out,
06:51this causes it to have collapsed
06:53and, unfortunately, the beams were seen
06:55because it is not pointed out.
06:56They are telling me that this structure,
06:59when it collapsed,
07:00it is because below there was no corresponding task
07:02of pointing out.
07:03So they are throwing me information
07:04from different architects who are watching the program.
07:06Yes, let's see, Cristian, I am not an architect,
07:08but I understand that it is something basic.
07:10It is basic in the good practice of architecture
07:14that makes that when you have a criminal charge,
07:17you can become criminally liable
07:20for the crime of collapse
07:21precisely because of what Cristian says,
07:23what other architects tell him,
07:25because this...
07:25Imagine, Cristian, I am Débora Ambo, lawyer.
07:28How are you?
07:29How are you, Débora, a pleasure.
07:30A pleasure.
07:31For you to build a building,
07:33not only do you have the responsibility
07:34that the work is beautiful,
07:36but you also do not cause damage to the landowners.
07:38Obviously, of course.
07:39So the first thing you have to do
07:41is to point out, put the necessary beams,
07:43generate everything that is the structure of control
07:46and protection towards the landowners.
07:48Well, but what Cristian is saying is very serious.
07:49No, it is, let's say, one of the causes
07:52for which I see that this is a crime of collapse
07:55that is going to end up in the criminal court.
07:57Yes, let's see, what is this?
07:58A closure?
08:00Closure of the work of one,
08:01first, closure of the work
08:03and they will call it an investigation
08:05when they also have,
08:06surely they will present reports.
08:08And I tell you, they got it cheap, right?
08:10Very, very cheap.
08:12Very cheap.
08:13But it can cost you a year of closure.
08:16A year.
08:16We repeat data, address,
08:18we are talking about Caballito,
08:20the geographical center of the federal capital,
08:23at a time when there is a lot of movement,
08:25surely in educational establishments.
08:27Commercial pole too.
08:29Commercial pole, guys who are going to leave school.
08:31Let's see, let's go with all that.
08:33Where did it happen?
08:34This is in the Porteño neighborhood of Caballito,
08:37in an artery that is very important,
08:38very transitory,
08:39to which now the court is telling me,
08:41this is about Pedro Goyena,
08:44there where it joins Avenida La Plata.
08:46In that place there is a total reduction of footwear.
08:50Pedro Goyena at 30 and Avenida La Plata.
08:53The traffic is closed,
08:55so we suggest avoiding that area.
08:58Well, there we have all the details.
09:01There on the map...
09:01Based on what Deborah says,
09:04we must differentiate the civil responsibility,
09:06which will be of the construction company,
09:08of the eventual criminal responsibility,
09:11which will be of the intervening professionals.
09:13Because the employer, in short,
09:16is not the technical responsible,
09:18and delegates and trusts the experts.
09:21Exactly, exactly.
09:23Without a doubt.
09:24Well, there we are seeing what happened.
09:26We will be going and coming.
09:27We were already sending our mobile phone from outside.
09:30A tower of between 13 and 14 floors was planned.
09:33They were going to make a tower.
09:34There are already some floors built, right?
09:37I think there are 4 or 5 floors.
09:39They already have several, this construction company,
09:42several towers built there,
09:43on even Pedro Goyena.
09:45Yes, because they are of the style of many
09:46that are on the same avenue.
09:47It is one of the most sought after areas in the neighborhood.
09:50They even have the showroom of this building,
09:52of this department.
09:53Yes, everything is there.
09:54You enter the page,
09:56you have directly where to visit models,
10:00models of how it was going to be.
10:02Are you showing me the crack?
10:03Meli, forgive me, Germán.
10:04Ah, there it is, look, there you can see it.
10:06Do you see it, Germán? Look.
10:07Of course, yes, yes, it's a...
10:08Yes, yes, yes, yes.
10:09And that has to be on point.
10:10And obviously, personnel from firefighters are already coming.
10:12It's already there, in the place, right?
10:14Yes, and architectural experts are also going to come, right?
10:17Dani, what do you say?
10:18Yes, yes, there are going to be experts,
10:20and the technical information is going to come from the labor cartel,
10:23which is mandatory by the legislation of the city of Buenos Aires.
10:27And from the QR code you can read who the responsible people are.
10:31In fact, the real estate agency is 10, 12 blocks away.
10:34But this transcends the commercial part.
10:37This transcends the commercial part.
10:38We are talking about the criminal responsible people.
10:41Dani, what I was telling you is that the criminal responsible people
10:45are going to come from that QR code.
10:48The names of the technicians, which are architects, engineers...
10:51Calculators.
10:52Now...
10:53They are the ones who do the calculations.
10:54I insist, I don't understand how this basic issue
10:57was not taken into account, having such a large number of construction.
11:02And expertise.
11:03Of course, also.
11:04They are experts in the matter.
11:05And they have been building for 10, 15 years.
11:07Yes, yes.
11:08There in the place.
11:09It is said that at that time the slab was being filled.
11:11Of course.
11:12And that's where it happens, right next to it,
11:16in the Linder area, to the gymnasium.
11:19And that's where this slaughter is carried out,
11:22which ends, fortunately, not tragically.
11:25But, well, there were workers working.
11:27And, of course, they also went out...
11:29They were safe, because they also put the lives of the workers
11:32of the same work at risk, right?
11:34That escapes the work that the workers do.
11:37Otherwise, it is already a matter of engineers and structures.
11:40Yes, because in reality, the first thing you have to do
11:42is, as the colleague here said,
11:45and the architects told him,
11:46is the nailing, the beams.
11:48When you start with the part of the concrete worker's task,
11:51which is to fill the slab,
11:53there begins another section, which is the concrete worker.
11:56But first, before the concrete worker acts,
11:59the nailing is done,
12:02what you need is that the calculator has done the calculations well.
12:05Because otherwise we are in situations like these.
12:08Sure, sure.
12:09Well, impressive the images that are coming.
12:12They also tell us that there were already complaints
12:15from the neighbors who live in the place,
12:17that they noticed certain irregularities.
12:20They start writing on our Instagram,
12:23if you are from the Caballito area,
12:25in Barrio Hermoso, where we have lived,
12:28and Álvaro.
12:29Yes, of course.
12:30And we have traveled to these blocks.
12:31Please, write to us, let us know
12:33what you were seeing or seeing that could happen
12:36with reference to the tasks that were being carried out.
12:41What has just happened is very serious
12:43and continues to bring a lot of information.
12:46And it could have been avoided.
12:48Yes, Claudio Riseto is a civil engineer.
12:50How are you, Claudio?
12:51Thank you for attending us.
12:52Hello, how are you?
12:53Good morning, how are you?
12:54Can you help us with the images that you are seeing
12:56that could have happened here in this collapse
12:58where the roof of a swimming pool fell?
13:00Well, I can give you some general panoramas, right?
13:03Yes, yes.
13:04In general, the weight of a pool,
13:07the water weighs one ton per cubic meter.
13:10That is, one thousand kilos per cubic meter.
13:12Sometimes one thinks, on a terrace,
13:14I put a hairpin.
13:15How much is the hairpin?
13:16Forty centimeters high.
13:18It is 400 kilos per square meter
13:20and a normal terrace is calculated on average,
13:24put it for 200 kilos per square meter,
13:26with which a common terrace
13:28does not withstand the weight of the water of a pool.
13:31That is, let's look at the scale
13:33that the weight of the water has.
13:35On the other hand, in a pool,
13:39as is the case in a gym,
13:41in the interior of a construction site,
13:43the water has chlorine,
13:45the water is hot,
13:47that is, it is steam.
13:49They are all conditioners
13:51that make the structure of the pool
13:53and, in particular, the armor,
13:55more prone to corrosion.
13:57When corrosion occurs,
13:59the resistant section of the iron is reduced,
14:01therefore, the capacity
14:03of the water is reduced.
14:05Now, if there was an impact
14:07on the construction of the linden building,
14:09well, that would have to be checked
14:11because, in general,
14:13with the structures,
14:15sometimes there have been problems
14:17in the construction of linden buildings
14:19in the process of excavations,
14:21but it is not so feasible
14:23that a collapse occurs
14:25in a linden tree
14:27when the building
14:29is already in elevation.
14:31It has already passed
14:34But here what they tell us
14:36is that it was not leveled, right?
14:38Yes, there was a lack of leveling.
14:40Let's see, there was a lack of leveling
14:42in the linden building
14:44and they were filling the structure
14:46of the linden building,
14:48the slab should have collapsed
14:50at the time of filling it
14:52because, obviously,
14:54in the leveling,
14:56which is the formwork that is done,
14:58it must be calculated for the weight
15:00of the structure of the fresh concrete
15:03plus an overload
15:05but if there had been a problem
15:07in the filling of the structure
15:09let's say that
15:11part of that building
15:13should have collapsed.
15:15And it didn't happen.
15:17Let's see, from what I see,
15:19from what you are showing me,
15:21I am not in doubt
15:23that it could have happened.
15:25And when you do a calculation,
15:27you dedicate yourself to doing calculations
15:29because you are an engineer,
15:31you take into account
15:33that the linden building
15:35has a swimming pool
15:37that has the weight of the water
15:39because they are elements
15:41that are conjugating
15:43to the precautionary measures
15:45that you have to take
15:47when doing a construction work,
15:49right?
15:51Because all that
15:53affects the ground.
15:55It is very clear to me
15:57what you say
16:00and what is commendable
16:02is that one makes a statement
16:04with a technical report
16:06and with a writer
16:08of the state of the linden tree.
16:10Now, the linden tree
16:12can deny that.
16:14Because it is not convenient
16:16to be careful
16:18for the future work.
16:20Let's see, sometimes it is unknown,
16:22sometimes, let's say,
16:24one tries to convince them
16:26that they are mutual benefit
16:28and that they can not
16:30assign them to me
16:32as a builder.
16:34The linden tree is convenient
16:36because it says, let's see,
16:38if there is no existing
16:40deterioration,
16:42all the deteriorations that may be,
16:44I am going to blame the linden tree
16:46if it does not want to recognize them.
16:48Now, I have had
16:50a lot of cases,
16:52including now,
16:54in a lot of places,
16:57but in gyms where there are
16:59pool structures
17:01with a degree of
17:03corrosion and risk
17:05that have to be
17:07solved in some way.
17:09You have to see what the structure
17:11of that pool was like,
17:13you have to see where it is supported,
17:15there you see, you show perfectly
17:17some walls in the front
17:19that are cracked,
17:21you have to see if those cracks
17:23were a product of this collapse
17:26that is,
17:28this type of thing, you have to examine them,
17:30you have to obviously see
17:32the structure plans if they exist,
17:34you have to see if that pool
17:36was approved, in quotation marks,
17:38had the plans presented,
17:40the structure, how was the structure
17:42and then see the incidence of linden tree benefits.
17:44All matter now of investigation.
17:46Engineer Riseto, thank you very much
17:48for this contact.
17:50No, please, thank you
17:52for your interest
17:54in the structures and the construction.
17:58Basically, the engineer puts the causes of the collapse
18:00in question, which one attributed
18:02in principle to the work in development.
18:04Yes, and now we are talking about the pool.
18:06And now we are talking about the pool.
18:08Exactly, well, our external mobile phone
18:10is arriving there, Germán is
18:12looking for information at the last minute,
18:14when you have it.
18:16Yes, yes, yes, if there was no pool,
18:18if there was no work next door,
18:20it would not come down either,
18:23but there is a causality
18:25that we have to see
18:27on which side is another.