El mundo del espectáculo se conmociona con la noticia de la separación entre Guillermo Franchella y Marinés Breña después de 36 años juntos. A pesar de una profunda crisis que arrastraban desde hace tiempo, ambos mantienen una buena relación y continúan asistiendo a eventos familiares. La pareja, que tiene dos hijos en el ámbito artístico, ha intentado superar sus diferencias con viajes románticos en los últimos años. Aunque ninguno ha confirmado oficialmente la ruptura, se especula sobre las posibilidades de reconciliación mientras siguen compartiendo el mismo hogar.
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00:00Did you meet your wife? Is she your wife?
00:02It was my brother's birthday.
00:04My brother's wife was a very good friend of my current wife.
00:09And it was a birthday, a meal, a dinner.
00:12A surprising separation shakes the world of the show.
00:16It is about the breakup of the marriage between Guillermo Franchella and Marinés Breña after 36 years of marriage.
00:24They separated. They went through a very deep crisis.
00:28Both continue to share family events, have a very good relationship.
00:34Lately, he saw her traveling alone with her brother.
00:37She will be in Miami for three weeks.
00:39She also went on a trip alone.
00:41As far as it was known, the main reason for the separation would be related to a deep crisis
00:48that had been dragging the couple for a long time and that they could not overcome.
00:53However, they both decide to show up together at family events, but not at public events,
00:59where the actor was seen alone.
01:02I was informed at least eight years ago.
01:05Eight years of crisis.
01:08That is, they rowed it.
01:10They rowed it a lot.
01:11And in the last five years, what they tried to do to reconnect is romantic trips, couple trips.
01:20As a result of their 36-year relationship, Guillermo and Marinés had two children, Yoshi and Nicolás,
01:27who followed in their footsteps and today they develop in the artistic environment.
01:32Cheers!
01:34Thank you, thank you.
01:36Happy for everything he achieved.
01:38The Oscar, which was the dream of his life.
01:40Well, it's been so many years, 23 already.
01:43We always talk about it. I love you.
01:46The truth is that none of the protagonists of this story came out to confirm or deny the information.
01:53Will there be a turnaround in this story?
01:56Will they be able to overcome this couple crisis and turn the page?
02:00Not to turn the matrimonial issue into a fight for supremacy,
02:06and not to believe that giving up is a step back, which sometimes is a step forward.
02:11And try not to calm down, not to get so angry.
02:15There are many things that I think are important for love.
02:22Will they be able to overcome this crisis? That's the question, right?
02:25I think they are trying.
02:28The information that comes to me is that they would still be sharing the same house.
02:35That would be one of the many crises they would have had.
02:40In fact, if you look at it, he has an alliance.
02:45The day of Martin Fierro, which was last Monday.
02:47He has the alliance.
02:49They are in the same house, it is not that one left another house.
02:53Yes, it is true that they traveled separately.
02:56He traveled with his brother, because he is spending more time with Ricardo.
03:01But according to me, they would also spend the holidays together.
03:09Well, it has to do a little with what Paulita said,
03:12that he said, well, family events.
03:16But they don't talk to me about a drastic separation.
03:20It's 36 years.
03:22It's your whole life.
03:24You also put the balance.
03:27And I imagine that after so long of being together,
03:30so long of love and that beautiful family they formed,
03:33I don't think they are those people who say,
03:36well, we threw everything on the edge, that's it, it's over.
03:39The crisis comes from time, Flor.
03:41Not for nothing, obviously, this is a scoop from Paula Varela.
03:43I got this information about six months ago.
03:46I spoke with part of Guillermo's environment.
03:48I communicated, because when you get a separation,
03:50you have to go directly to the environment.
03:52At first they denied it.
03:54And then I spoke with a person who confirmed the separation.
03:58This was six months ago, approximately.
04:01I spoke with the production, but this person tells me
04:03that they were separated, but in a temporary crisis.
04:06They had had many crises in the last time.
04:08The issue is, and I'm going to tell you the word they told me,
04:12it's like Marínez would have gotten tired of the trips,
04:18of the excess of work.
04:20Guillermo is one of the most requested actors.
04:23Not only in Argentina, but also in Spain.
04:26Guillermo's career is very fruitful.
04:28You can see the ring there.
04:30Not only as an actor, but also as a director.
04:34He has many work proposals.
04:36Marínez is now living in Miami,
04:39or at least is traveling a lot to Miami.
04:41Guillermo had trips to Spain,
04:43so the separation was also physical.
04:45But the bond between them, especially for the children,
04:48both Yoshi and Nico, who are two adorable beings,
04:51continued in a much more loving way for the children.
04:55The issue of her trips has to do with a matter of health,
04:59of family.
05:00In Miami.
05:01She is traveling a lot, and in fact, what they tell me
05:03is that he even accompanied her on some of those trips to Miami.
05:07On September 29, they celebrated their wedding anniversary
05:10on the same day as her birthday.
05:12There they celebrated it together.
05:14It was recently, not long ago.
05:16Yes.
05:17On the same day that they celebrated their anniversary.
05:21It is also strange that since yesterday,
05:23this version has been going around,
05:25they have not been able to clarify.
05:27No, he is not going to talk.
05:28No, I looked on the side to see who was at this time
05:30managing his career a little.
05:32There is not such a person,
05:34a press agent.
05:35No, it's him.
05:36It's him.
05:37He doesn't need anyone.
05:38Lately, he has been doing everything.
05:40I wonder if you have been together for a long time.
05:42He never spoke.
05:43He never spoke of separation, did he?
05:46No, not from them.
05:47He never spoke of them.
05:48In general, the couple of the mind is separated all the time.
05:51They portrayed her as a career banker.
05:53It's the first time.
05:54She loves him, she takes care of him.
05:56She is working.
05:57When you ask about Marinés, everyone speaks to you spectacularly.
06:00He dedicated himself to his family.
06:02That's the word.
06:03He dedicated himself to his family.
06:05He dedicated himself to his family and also to taking care of Guillermo.
06:07Because they say, did you see this phrase that
06:09behind a great man there is a great woman?
06:11Here it is next to it, obviously, but it is a phrase that is used a lot.
06:14But I say, Marinés has also taken good care of Guillermo's money.
06:18Whenever I saw them, I found them, I don't know if it was by chance,
06:22but many times, with a lot of frequency, with David and the woman.
06:26Yes, always.
06:27Very friends.
06:28Very friends.
06:29That's why.
06:30They were those marriages that always go out together,
06:32to different places.
06:33They went to events or they went to a premiere or they went to,
06:36I don't know, I found them eating in places.
06:38Very friends.
06:39Always together.
06:40Yes.
06:41Let's see.
06:42Whenever I have had any doubts, I have written to Franchella
06:46and she always answered me, the truth.
06:48And I always appreciate it because, you know,
06:50sometimes the figures don't usually answer.
06:52And yesterday I wrote to her, I told her,
06:54nobody is asking you if this is true,
06:57because sometimes they also say things that are not.
06:59And for the first time she doesn't answer me.
07:01I guess she doesn't feel like it,
07:03because to answer you have to say,
07:05or is it a lie?
07:06And all the ways seem to lead to that it is not.
07:10And to say it is true is also to put a word to that
07:13and open a door that he generally does not usually open.
07:16I think I was just thinking,
07:18I think that in this case this separation is easier,
07:21maybe, so far, from what we know of what we believe,
07:24that many people find it difficult, let's say,
07:26to believe in these wear and tears after so many years.
07:29It happens to any son of a neighbor.
07:31And more in a couple and in a moment of his
07:35where his career was changing so much,
07:37that he started in a way and became one of the great actors.
07:40No, why do you say it's hard for him to believe?
07:42No, I think what is happening to him is what happens to any lady
07:45who is looking at you now.
07:46That's why I say it, he is very exposed too.
07:48You have another life.
07:49But he has a life.
07:50You see that he started as a journalist in Gente.
07:52Yes.
07:53I remember that time.
07:54And then he decided to be an actor, right?
07:57And then it seems to me that he always protected his private life.
08:01In fact, I think he would suspect where this version could come from.
08:07You see?
08:08From the media.
08:09I think he suspects because nothing was ever known.
08:12There were many crises.
08:13Well, what you say ...
08:14There were many crises and not the first one.
08:16What you say, let's see, goes in relation to the note
08:19that they made to him today in the morning,
08:21the American breakfast, to the brother.
08:23To Ricardo.
08:24Where Ricardo says,
08:25I want to know who said it.
08:27Because I already know.
08:28I'm going to ask Franchela.
08:29As they are aware of who the person who said it was.
08:33The brother was very angry today.
08:35Let's do one thing because maybe many people saw it
08:37because you were in the American breakfast today.
08:39Let's see the note from Franchela's brother
08:41that they went to ask him, obviously, to see if this was true.
08:46Listen to me.
08:47I tell you very clearly.
08:48As my law said.
08:50And he was not wrong.
08:51I thought it was from the tomato.
08:53No, it's not from the tomato.
08:55Analyze what I tell you.
08:59I'm going to find this girl.
09:00And I tell you more.
09:01Now I'm going to talk to my brother.
09:03Now I'm going to talk.
09:04Because I want to know the name and last name of this girl.
09:06And send her to her mother's house.
09:08But publicly.
09:09That's why I tell you that what my law said.
09:12Many say that he is upset.
09:14The president is not upset at all.
09:16He is not so wrong.
09:18With respect to the press.
09:19Inform yourself.
09:20And at another time we'll talk.
09:22I'm working.
09:23I know.
09:24But I say.
09:25Are you angry that they said you could not have fun with your brother?
09:28No, no.
09:29He lied.
09:30That's the worst.
09:31Lie.
09:32Lie.
09:33That's why there is a lot of slander in the press.
09:35I know.
09:36And that's why I told you about my law.
09:38Inform yourself.
09:39And then you will understand what I'm talking about.
09:43Well, the anger and the comparison.
09:45Many people did not understand why he mentioned my law.
09:48To the president.
09:49And it has to do with what he had told you about the press.
09:51Of course.
09:52Like a slander.
09:53Of course.
09:54Like a lie.
09:5580% said, it seems to me, that they are all liars.
09:57Of course.
09:58And that in general they are always fabulous.
10:00Erika is the producer, the screenwriter who went to write the note.
10:03Just today I crossed her and she told me the details of this.
10:06She told me that it was a complicated moment.
10:09That later they could speak well.
10:10In what sense?
10:11That he got very nervous.
10:12He has a real estate agency in the Belgrano area.
10:15Obviously he is not used to it.
10:17And more when they are going to look for you for something that does not even have to do with you.
10:20Rather, you are part of the family.
10:22The protagonist is another.
10:24And I don't know if I knew that they were recording it.
10:26The brother denies.
10:27The brother does not.
10:28The brother denies.
10:29The brother denies are the rumors around this separation.
10:32No, no, no.
10:33He says it's a lie.
10:34It's a lie, he says.
10:35It's a lie.
10:36That he went to look for her.
10:38But I tell you what he says on camera.
10:40Yes, Marce.
10:41What happens is that he is bothered by some other comments there are.
10:45Versions.
10:46Of course.
10:47About the separation.
10:48Carina, let's make a mea culpa.
10:50As journalists, what we do is we have to fill in spaces and also,
10:54I heard since she had another man, I mean, from there, obviously,
10:58they started more and more, the snowball is getting bigger and bigger.
11:02That bothers the brother.
11:03But how is it not going to bother you if you don't know that?
11:05Of course, because what he says is that it is not like that, that they,
11:09well, yes, they are having a difficult time, but in good times.
11:13I ask you, didn't Paula tell us this on her show?
11:16No.
11:17No, she uploaded it yesterday.
11:19That's why, this doesn't seem minor to me either, eh?
11:22Well, wait, I can't tell you.
11:25Ah, very good.
11:26That's why.
11:27I think, wait, I'm not saying they don't forbid you,
11:30I'm not saying they don't forbid you, but they are topics that...
11:32I think you know what would have happened to Paula?
11:34If they forbid you, I don't think so.
11:36No, I don't think so. Do you know what would have happened to Paula?
11:38I think.
11:39That the information must have reached her after the program,
11:42and the truth is that she didn't want it to be leaked,
11:44she had it very checked, she gave me that feeling,
11:46and I tell my networks because they are going to burn it.
11:48She stepped forward, she says, it's mine.
11:50What happens is that I also think that in the program...
11:52It can also be, I throw it here and then...
11:54They did it in the afternoon.
11:55Tomorrow.
11:56I say, we do it here, I say, let's see how it stings,
11:58and if everyone stings, I say, we do it.
12:00I give you another example.
12:02Because, how to say, well, if this is being talked about,
12:04we have to do it.
12:06It's different, it's different.
12:08They didn't do the topic, they didn't do the topic.
12:10But it seems to me that...
12:12Ah, I didn't see it.
12:13In the afternoon, they also had this in a folder to do it,
12:15and maybe Paula was there,
12:17knowing that it was leaked before.
12:19She said, I throw it, because for the other day
12:21it was old.
12:23It gave me that feeling.
12:24Guys, we're done.
12:25It doesn't matter.
12:27Of course, the protagonist goes through the information.
12:29It doesn't matter.
12:31It's Paula's.
12:33What Guido told, the production knows,
12:35because he told the production,
12:37and he doesn't want to tell details.
12:41Details.
12:43Because the truth is that...
12:45Look, Franchella spoke.
12:47She spoke with Fernanda Menez.
12:49I heard an audio.
12:51Obviously, I can't air it,
12:53because it would be disloyal.
12:55But the truth is that she spoke,
12:57and she answers the messages,
12:59and I know why.
13:01Let's see, because here you have to explain everything, yes?
13:03I'm going to explain absolutely everything.
13:05First, I know Franchella from her birthday,
13:07from life, from people,
13:09and then from the media.
13:11On Coppola's birthday in 1970,
13:13we crossed paths with her and him.
13:15And my ex-boyfriend is a big fan of Franchella.
13:17So, for a birthday
13:19the year before,
13:21two years ago,
13:23of my ex-boyfriend,
13:25I asked Menezes
13:27to get me a video of Franchella
13:29to surprise my ex.
13:31And he got it for me.
13:33That's why I clarify all this
13:35so that it is known.
13:37The link.
13:39Yes.
13:41I asked her
13:43what was going on,
13:45and what he told her
13:47is this.
13:49He doesn't want to deny it,
13:51because the truth is that
13:53he has nothing to deny.
13:55But he denies the separation.
13:57In the audio you heard,
13:59Franchella denies the separation.
14:01The audio I heard is that they are living together
14:03in the same house.
14:05As if they had
14:07or have a crisis,
14:09but no, they are fine.
14:11In fact, guys,
14:13I repeat, if he was 8 years old,
14:15or 6 months old,
14:17he wouldn't have an alliance.
14:19Why would someone make an alliance?
14:21I talked to someone very close to him.
14:23And another thing about what Tauro says,
14:25that in these 36 years
14:27there have been other crises.
14:29Obviously.
14:31And it was never discussed,
14:33but that would be...
14:35It's hard for me to believe.
14:37Especially seeing them as you saw them.
14:39It was a couple...
14:41I'm not saying they were
14:43falling in love,
14:45but you saw them as a united couple.
14:47They didn't need to publish
14:49that they were together
14:51to know that they were a couple.
14:53There are marriages
14:55where you say,
14:57you see them,
14:59but you saw them as a very united couple.
15:01Well, Nico seems to be
15:03a little more...
15:05And I don't know,
15:07apparently, yes.
15:09Nico, who is the actor?
15:11Nico Franchella.
15:13Nico, who is now in Chile,
15:15is recording La Casa de los Espíritus,
15:17a series by Isabel Allende.
15:19He is a very good actor,
15:21but Nico also did the one with Carmel,
15:23do you remember?
15:25And what does he do?
15:27It seems that he brings
15:29a lot of attention to Guillermo.
15:31To Marines, no.
15:33You saw how we are like mothers.
15:35What kind, Marce?
15:37Dislikes
15:39of women.
15:41No serious dislikes,
15:43nothing serious.
15:45I don't know if it's serious.
15:47Everyone takes it as serious,
15:49for example.
15:51It depends on the woman
15:53of whoever.
15:55There are people
15:57who let go more quickly
15:59and there are people who don't.
16:01You start going out with a lady
16:03who is recently separated
16:05and the husband
16:07or the ex-husband
16:09appears to you.
16:11I'm talking about several,
16:13I'm not talking about anyone,
16:15of all.
16:17I always say the same thing,
16:19if I want to tell it in a name and surname,
16:21I say it, but the truth is that
16:23those bolonkeys,
16:25once you get it,
16:27I don't know.
16:29There are a lot of things.
16:31As if the mother pampers him more
16:33and the father puts him more in trouble.
16:35It's what happens in the best families.
16:37There are a lot of things
16:39that we don't know
16:41what they do
16:43or put a little grain
16:45of sand in this crisis.
16:47The discussions between marriage.
16:49It is logical,
16:51that one thinks one thing
16:53and the other thinks another.
16:55This was a reference of the mother
16:57whose name was Adelina
16:59and she was 98 years old.
17:01She died in 2018
17:03and it is true that from there
17:05it was a great break for Ricardo
17:07and for Franchella,
17:09who are super united.
17:11They worked together.
17:13Franchella is very familiar.
17:15He was very sad,
17:17the two were very sad
17:19and you derive that sadness
17:21because people who think
17:23he is a super actor,
17:25millionaire,
17:27are the easiest to say.
17:29He is a person
17:31and things happen to him
17:33and they suffer
17:35and there they have to make
17:37a double effort than anyone else
17:39that no one cares what happens to him
17:41and more with how careful
17:43he has always been
17:45and that is his private life.
17:47It is difficult.
17:49I think we should be a little more careful
17:51for some things I know.
17:53It seems to me that for something
17:55he does not speak, he does not want to speak,
17:57he does not feel like it.
17:59We cannot force the famous
18:01to say what we want them to say.
18:03The truth is that they live in the same house
18:05and the truth is that they are living
18:07a situation that they do not want to tell us
18:09and it has nothing to do with the separation.
18:11In addition to what you told,
18:13I spoke to a person very close to him
18:15and I swear
18:17that I had no idea
18:19but I say to myself,
18:21but why? It may be something else.
18:23He does not tell me.
18:25Guillermo is very reserved in those things.
18:27I say, it would be so difficult
18:29for him to tell us at some dinner
18:31or lunch,
18:33let's say,
18:35and it is very difficult to put those things inside
18:37and we have also heard of some crises
18:39and he never told us anything
18:41and we talk about the subject.
18:43And we don't even talk about the subject.
18:45Going out to deny is part of the show too.
18:47It's getting on the show.
18:49Going out to deny.
18:51For me, the difference of this situation
18:53is that many people have already started
18:55to talk about it.
18:57Yes, they are everywhere.
18:59They can do a lot of damage.
19:01Even on Channel 7.
19:03It is a very important name.
19:05He is the number one actor in Argentina.
19:07One of them, yes.
19:09He drags the information,
19:11the clicks.
19:13It doesn't matter.
19:15If it's true or a lie,
19:17then you go into the notes and say,
19:19this was it.
19:21But there is concrete information.
19:23No, obviously.
19:25The information that comes to me
19:27is similar to Marcela's.
19:29They are living together.
19:31They are separated.
19:33There is a delicate issue
19:35and a health issue.
19:37I'm going a little further
19:39than what they told me
19:41when it was about Pampita and Moritam.
19:43And they told me,
19:45keep some services
19:47that are going around.
19:49In terms of obtaining information
19:51and looking for
19:53and getting into the crisis.
19:55Intelligence services.
19:57Both on one side and on the other.
19:59With Franchella, why?
20:01Why not?
20:03Because it goes to support the current government.
20:05Or in the case of Moritam, the opposite.
20:07Ah, we would already be at a level.
20:09Yes, well.
20:11But what happens is that
20:13when they told me at the time,
20:15because there was no explanation
20:17about Pampita itself.
20:19And many times it was handled
20:21as information.
20:23It is painful, a separation.
20:25But it is not so serious.
20:27But if you want to tell it.
20:33I ask you, if Franchella
20:35chooses a journalist and writes to him
20:37it is a lie.
20:39Does it deactivate?
20:41For me it deactivates.
20:43I sent him a message.
20:45He did not answer me.
20:47I understand, it's like Karina says.
20:49I sent him a message.
20:51He did not answer me.
20:53And I think the non-response
20:55is also a message.
20:57It is not even online.
20:59Franchella has not been online for many hours.
21:03Do you know what Franchella's cell phone is today?
21:05Well, it's a cell phone that
21:07they shared with us out of the blue.
21:09And we are respectful, we will not say.
21:11It also coincides with the fact that
21:13Yoshi took a vacation from the streaming
21:15he does with Diego Leuco and the rest of his teammates.
21:17It is also a divine girl, super sensitive.
21:19And not being a daughter,
21:21you have to go out and give explanations
21:23of a complicated moment.
21:25Maybe her father told her,
21:27hey, guys, don't talk.
21:29Maybe she said, guys,
21:31don't figure anything out.
21:33because the one who has a live every day, the one who is more at hand, of course, is with Leuco in Koso, in Luzu, the production team went to look for her and well, she escaped, she doesn't want to talk to us, obviously.
21:47It seems to me that we have to take care of this, that we are not saying, but we are, I think that when one says it in a quieter way, it is saying the same, you have to take care because it is a delicate family situation.
21:58So it seems to me that we also have to take care of that part, that they have to tell it, that we are not who to tell that situation, what is happening today.
22:05Sure, but also, I don't know, I ask, but leaving is not like continuing to feed.
22:11That's why I say, no, well, it's a decision too.
22:13You see that at the moment, I think that the famous will know this, you do what you can and when you are so exposed, what do you do, where do you go, if you talk, why do you talk, if you don't talk, why don't you talk.
22:25You saw that sometimes I agree with you, because if you talk, you make a bigger ball, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, and I don't know.
22:33No, sometimes it happens to you, sometimes it happens to you that it was what you were saying, sometimes you deny and say no, it's true.
22:40Exactly.
22:41So you say, for the protagonists, speak, I say no, the truth is not true, nothing.
22:46You are a supporter, many times they say things, you are a supporter, of course, nothing.
22:51You know it's something serious.
22:52But if Flor asks you, are you separated, you say no.
22:55No, but sometimes they tell you no.
22:57That's why I say, of course, of course.
23:00They separated me this last time.
23:01Yes, several times.
23:02A lot, do you remember that we were in Flor de Tarde?
23:04Yes.
23:05Yes, but confirmed.
23:06Confirmed.
23:07No, you see, it's like it happens to you, someone can fight, you can have, I don't know.
23:12Why do I say something clear?
23:13Don't worry.
23:14Of course, but from there, you understand, you can't go out all the time to clarify.
23:19It is also true that if Paula spoke, it is because she had an info.
23:24An info, no, no, this is not against Paula's information.
23:26No.
23:27Well, we went to look for Paula Varela, who is generally a journalist who has a lot of information.
23:31Very good information.
23:32I don't think she would throw the ball with something like that.
23:33And above all, knowing that one of the managers of the channel where she works is an intimate friend.
23:37Intimate, both of us.
23:38Intimate, intimate, but at a level.
23:39Suar too.
23:40Yes, as is.
23:41So let's see what she told us.
23:43When you are going to tell something about a figure like Guillermo, who at the same time, apart from that I admire him a lot
23:48and I have, let's say, a very good relationship with him, the times I have interviewed him and so on.
23:52So you have a double pressure, because obviously you are telling what is not good,
23:56which has to do with a separation.
23:58So you take all the necessary precautions.
24:00What did I do?
24:01As soon as I found out, well, I already got a very, very good source, very close,
24:06but when I found out, I tried to check it.
24:08I checked, I had ...
24:09Did you check for three sources?
24:10I checked for three, I don't know if I got to three.
24:13I think two, but forceful.
24:15Forceful.
24:16Forceful.
24:17No, yes, three, three.
24:19There were three.
24:20There were three sources.
24:21And well, nothing.
24:22I finished checking it when the program ended.
24:25That's why we couldn't tell it to partners.
24:27Yes, I told it directly in my networks, because I knew that as I found out,
24:31and at some point I had already checked it.
24:34And you see, when you start checking, you also start telling that she is asking about this,
24:39about the other, something is happening.
24:40So, well, I threw it quickly in my networks, because I wasn't going to hold on until today,
24:43at noon, maybe.
24:44But yes, the truth is that it was a mess.
24:47And I want to thank all the colleagues, because they all gave me the credit,
24:50and that's good among colleagues to do it.
24:52I do it too.
24:53Did you receive a phone call from him or from his environment?
24:56No, nobody.
24:57The truth is that nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody.
24:59In fact, I didn't write to him.
25:01I didn't write to him directly, because since I had it totally checked,
25:05I preferred not to write to him.
25:06I know how he is doing.
25:08I know other details and other things that I am not going to tell.
25:11Because, well, being, as I told you, a character, a figure of Guillermo's size,
25:17I prefer to go this way, which is obviously the confirmation of the separation,
25:21that they would no longer be living together.
25:24How long ago was this?
25:25And a long time ago they told me it was the crisis.
25:28And the separation, when one of the two leaves the house,
25:31I don't have it confirmed, let's say, the date.
25:34Yes, they are no longer living under the same roof.
25:36Is he still living on Avenida Libertador or is she the one who stayed there?
25:39I understand that he is still living on Avenida Libertador.
25:42And well, I just told that, right?
25:45Which is actually the important thing, let's say, that they are separated.
25:48Then, obviously, it would be good for the protagonists to speak.
25:51As a journalist, I had the information, I have to tell it,
25:54I told it with the greatest respect I could, right?
25:57Based on what is our job, that sometimes we get into more complicated things
26:02or that bother us more on the other side.
26:04But in this case, I understand that Guillermo, although, obviously,
26:07there is no Chocho that is known, knew that it was going to happen,
26:10that the Martín Fierros were already without the woman.
26:12And that caught our attention because she, the truth,
26:14has always accompanied him.
26:16You know that Franchella's brother spoke to an American journalist
26:19and he expressed himself in a rather forceful way too.
26:24Yes.
26:25I'm going to show you the video so you can see it and let's reflect together.
26:28Yes, of course.
26:30This was now?
26:31Now.
26:34Now.
26:45Are you going to look for me?
26:49Well, I was listening live to what Franchella's brother said
26:52because she was the one who gave the information, right?
26:54And besides, she supports it.
26:55Yes, yes.
26:56She continues to support it.
26:57It matches a lot in the information.
26:59The only thing that doesn't match is that they would be living,
27:02they are living on the same roof and she says no,
27:04that she would have left.
27:05Is she here or is she in Miami now?
27:07She's here.
27:08As far as I know, she's here.
27:09She's here.
27:10She travels a lot to Miami, but she's here.
27:12Yes, yes.
27:13And he's here too.
27:14Because he said he was in Spain.
27:15No, he's in Argentina.
27:17What happens is that what I feel is as if we couldn't,
27:19I mean, finally I don't end up knowing if yes or no.
27:23I am of the idea that until the protagonists do not speak,
27:26I prefer to wait and not because I distrust what Varela says.
27:31It's like when we have someone like that,
27:33those emblematic couples, I don't know,
27:35I think of Darín and Florencia Vaz,
27:37those couples that you want and for so many years,
27:40it's like it's hard for us to assume as an audience,
27:44I don't know, as television viewers,
27:45that, well, there is a moment in life where everything is fine,
27:49we get along, but everyone wants to do their own way.
27:53I don't know why.
27:54You see, there is a situation, I don't know,
27:57or that's my point of view, but I say it can happen.
28:00And that doesn't mean, yesterday,
28:02Laura, when she was talking about Pampita,
28:03she said failure, for me it's not a failure.
28:07They had a beautiful project,
28:08if it's finished, from another place,
28:11two divine children who are doing well,
28:13who raised them, who are building their families.
28:16That's a failure, failure is something else, I think.
28:19Obvious.
28:20There comes a moment in life where maybe
28:22And the paradigms are changing.
28:2426 years together is a miracle.
28:26It's a miracle, of course.
28:28We now have the edited note,
28:30because the first part was raw,
28:33now we have the edited note from Paula Varela,
28:35who told us the following, look.
28:39What did you do for three sources?
28:41I checked for three, I don't know if I got to three,
28:44I think two, but forceful, forceful.
28:47And I have, let's say, a very good relationship with him,
28:50the times I've interviewed him and so on,
28:52so you have a double pressure,
28:53because obviously you are telling what is not good,
28:55which has to do with a separation.
28:57So you take all the necessary precautions,
28:59which is what I did.
29:00Did you receive a phone call from him or from his environment?
29:04No, nobody.
29:05The truth is that nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody.
29:07In fact, I didn't write to him,
29:09I didn't write to him directly,
29:11because as I had it totally checked,
29:13I preferred not to write to him,
29:14I know how he is doing,
29:15I know other details and other things that I'm not going to tell.
29:19Because, well, being, as I was saying,
29:21a character, a figure of Guillermo's size,
29:24I prefer to go this way,
29:26which is obviously the confirmation of the separation,
29:29that they would no longer be living together.
29:31How long ago was this?
29:32A long time ago, they told me it was the crisis,
29:35and the separation, when one of the two leaves the house,
29:38I don't have it confirmed, let's say, the date,
29:41if they are no longer living under the same roof.
29:44Is she still living in the Liberator Avenue,
29:46or is she the one who stayed there?
29:47I understand that he is still living in the Liberator Avenue.
29:50I understand that Guillermo,
29:51although obviously he is not Cholcho,
29:53knew that it was going to happen,
29:54that the Martín Fierros were already without the woman,
29:57and that caught our attention,
29:58because she has always accompanied him.
30:01Did you know that Franchella's brother
30:02spoke to an American journalist?
30:04Yes.
30:05And he expressed himself in a rather forceful way too.
30:09I'm going to find this girl.
30:11And I'll tell you more,
30:12now I'm going to talk to my brother,
30:13now I'm going to talk,
30:14because I want to know the name and last name of this girl.
30:16And send her to her mother's house,
30:18but publicly.
30:19He lied, which is the worst.
30:21Lying, lying.
30:23That's why there is a lot of slander in the press.
30:25Did you find Franchella's brother polite?
30:27No, I don't think so.
30:28No, no.
30:29From what I heard,
30:30insulting,
30:31he doesn't seem polite to me, of course.
30:32But well, I want to give him the changui,
30:34to give him a moment of warmth.
30:36I don't know,
30:37because I don't have a deal with him,
30:38I don't know him.
30:39Yes, I know Guillermo,
30:40and I know that Guillermo is not like that,
30:41he never handled himself like that,
30:44and he didn't call me for nothing,
30:46and he's not angry with me, Guillermo,
30:48which is not important,
30:49because in reality the protagonist is him,
30:50and his marinesque wife is also a love.
30:52I somehow spoke to them
30:54through interposed people,
30:55let's say, do you understand me?
30:56They found out
30:57that you were going to tell him.
30:58They know that I was going to tell him,
31:00and I was,
31:01and yes,
31:02they didn't put any but in that information
31:04that I was going to say.
31:05If you find Guillermo
31:06at an event soon,
31:07how do you think he will react
31:09when he finds you?
31:10No, I think well,
31:11I think first that Guillermo
31:12is a very intelligent guy,
31:13I don't think he's going to react badly,
31:15second,
31:16I think I was totally,
31:17let's say, respectful
31:18when it came to telling something
31:19that if I didn't tell him,
31:20then maybe
31:21another colleague would find out
31:22and tell him.
31:23Would you recommend
31:24that they take out
31:25some kind of document
31:26explaining it like that,
31:27a statement?
31:28Yes, I think so.
31:29He goes out to clarify
31:30that he is uncomfortable,
31:31I know that,
31:32I also recognize that,
31:33Guillermo is not a guy
31:34who is comfortable
31:35talking about his private life,
31:36it seems to me that he could be good
31:37because he knows that now
31:38he is going to expose himself
31:39to the press at some point,
31:40then talking like that
31:41may sometimes
31:42protect you more, right?
31:47And she holds it,
31:48she says she warned him
31:49that she was going to tell him.
31:51I,
31:52the truth is that I am amazed,
31:54I am dumb.
31:55I was as surprised as you were.
31:56Because I,
31:57I know a Franchella
31:58who is more like his brother,
32:00the reaction of his brother,
32:01not in this case,
32:02but in others,
32:03that is,
32:04he is very politically correct
32:05in the media,
32:06but then he is a human being,
32:07he gets angry like anyone.
32:08Like us.
32:10I don't think,
32:11I know that,
32:12I have understood,
32:13many did not like it,
32:14that,
32:15I think,
32:16I suspect,
32:17that it came from
32:18where the daughter works,
32:19he thought.
32:21From the use.
32:23But if the daughter
32:24does not count it,
32:25someone else will.
32:27You can comment there,
32:28or what do I know,
32:29I don't know.
32:30They are trying to see
32:31where that version
32:32could have come from
32:33because they had
32:34a lot of crises
32:35and it was never known.
32:36Of course.
32:37And now it is known.
32:38That's why,
32:39let's see,
32:40obviously,
32:41I don't think I am,
32:42no,
32:43they are trying to see
32:44from where.
32:45From here,
32:46to see where.
32:47From where.
32:48The first thing to think
32:49is, uh,
32:50they work in a medium.
32:51No,
32:52the thing is that sometimes
32:53you work with people
32:54you don't believe,
32:55you see,
32:56sometimes it happens to us
32:57here in the cut.
32:58Here it happens to us,
32:59guys,
33:00we cut things,
33:01information that comes to us
33:02and there are some
33:03who go and call the person
33:04and make us look bad,
33:05or not.
33:06That's why.
33:07We have a lady
33:08who comes to us
33:09and we say,
33:10hey,
33:11I'm working,
33:12we are working
33:13on this information.
33:14Do you know something
33:15that comes to you
33:16so that we can help?
33:17We are a team.
33:18Well,
33:19and it turns out
33:20that later they call
33:21the person
33:22and let them know.
33:23And there are people
33:24who sometimes invent,
33:25I'm not talking about this case,
33:26I'm talking in general,
33:27they invent like
33:28situations balls
33:29that if they really
33:30put you to the test,
33:31if you don't check them,
33:32you can have a bad time
33:33telling something
33:34and they tell you,
33:35no,
33:36you don't find out,
33:37you have a bad time
33:38later.
33:39Of course.
33:40Because you always have to check.
33:41Always,
33:42later,
33:43we can also make mistakes,
33:44but hey.
33:45Anyway,
33:46we are also living
33:47in a time where
33:48it would be very easy
33:49for them to lie
33:50or through a journalist
33:51friend
33:52or through their own network.
33:53For me,
33:54you don't have to use
33:55a journalist friend
33:56or anything,
33:57you have to use them.
33:58Do you care
33:59about a network?
34:00He has Instagram,
34:01he has a cell,
34:02I don't know.
34:03He doesn't have
34:04a public Instagram.
34:05If he goes out
34:06to clarify,
34:07Franchella,
34:08the way he wants,
34:09with a statement
34:10that he can send
34:11to the media,
34:12the way he wants,
34:13cut the hysteria
34:14because in this way
34:15he is going to look
34:16for his daughter,
34:17surely he will have
34:18a guard at the door
34:19of the house,
34:20if he has to record
34:21a guard at the door
34:22of the recording.
34:23He also has to go
34:24to an event,
34:25he is not going to go.
34:26If he doesn't speak,
34:27things are also diluted.
34:28It is what I think
34:29is all very mixed
34:30around the figure
34:31of him and what he represents
34:32and the Martin Fierro
34:33of cinema,
34:34because they are
34:35two different things,
34:36one is personal life
34:37and the other
34:38was to receive
34:39a super award,
34:40very well deserved
34:41by the way.
34:42I have the feeling
34:43that we are living
34:44so badly
34:45and we sometimes
34:46fight for so little
34:47that it seems to me
34:48that this,
34:49let's say,
34:50can damage him,
34:51if it is true,
34:52in many ways,
34:53let's say.
34:54The reaction
34:55of the brother,
34:56which is logical,
34:57the truth is that
34:58as a sister
34:59I am going to defend
35:00Ricardo,
35:01he would have reacted
35:02the same,
35:03no matter who
35:04it is,
35:05that they say
35:06anything
35:07about your sister-in-law,
35:08about your brother,
35:09and I will also
35:10tell you anything.
35:11What happens is that
35:12we are also living
35:13a time of
35:14farándula pelusa
35:15as well.
35:16We are living
35:17a time of farándula pelusa,
35:18so,
35:19Antonio,
35:20information like this,
35:21of a star,
35:22of a star,
35:23international star,
35:24so,
35:25I don't know
35:26if the issue is also
35:27diluted so much,
35:28because if not,
35:29nothing happens to me.
35:30I say,
35:31if the issue is mine,
35:32the neighbors,
35:33so,
35:34it's like that,
35:35you know how it is.
35:36To try to look for it,
35:37to try, of course,
35:38Norman Risky
35:39he was close,
35:40I don't know.
35:41It's that Martín Fierro,
35:42for him it was
35:43hard also.
35:44Because Franchella,
35:45don't say it,
35:46he was pointed
35:47by Martín Fierro
35:48by the faces
35:49that Franchella
35:50made,
35:51politically,
35:52she knew that
35:53she was facing
35:54a tribe,
35:55because
35:56Franchella
35:57always was
35:58absolutely
35:59prudent,
36:00for him it was
36:01No, it's when they don't make you a face, they don't applaud you, that's what happened to him because he's a star.
36:07No, it's when he talked about Miley Cyrus, remember?
36:11Yes, he got a lot of attention.
36:14No, not all of them, two or three that are official, I don't remember who they are.
36:18Julieta Silverberg.
36:20How did I know?
36:21Julieta Silverberg.
36:22I hate her.
36:23I remember that last name.
36:25Charlie.
36:27Nancy.
36:29The judges have different opinions.
36:31That's why he doubted, he wasn't convinced of Martin Fierro.
36:35He wasn't convinced.
36:36But how many places do we go to, there are people you don't tolerate, there are people who speak badly of you.
36:40No, no.
36:41He was brave.
36:43And I said that O'Reilly didn't greet him much either.
36:46You have to go to a place where all your colleagues...
36:49Not all of them, please.
36:5180% of the colleagues he works with...
36:54Mirtha.
36:55No.
36:56Graciela Borges.
36:57No.
36:58That line.
36:59No.
37:00That line.
37:01Brandoni, that's why.
37:02That line was protected.
37:03But I know that all your colleagues have a different opinion of you.
37:06And you, the truth is that you stand there with a different opinion.
37:09You asked me.
37:10You have to be brave.
37:11One thing is politics and another thing is the annoying success.
37:15He is a mega figure.
37:16International.
37:17He is fantastic, he chooses what projects to do.
37:19Yes, obviously.
37:20And the project he does is a success.
37:22But why don't we see his gratitude for that night?
37:25Let's see what he said.
37:26When you win an award, you get nervous.
37:28Obviously.
37:29When you win...
37:30You forgot to thank your husband.
37:31To my husband and my children.
37:32Yes.
37:33The most important.
37:34In fashion.
37:35In fashion or in the other?
37:36In social media.
37:37In social media, yes.
37:38The most important person in your life.
37:39The most important.
37:40There is no other.
37:41Obviously.
37:42When you don't expect it, but let's see what Guillermo Franchella said.
37:46Wow.
37:48Beautiful night, right?
37:50Yes.
37:55And yes, it is.
37:56A beautiful night for me.
37:59This fantastic distinction.
38:01Congratulations, Luis.
38:03Really, what you are returning to...
38:06I haven't seen this ceremony for so many years.
38:10You started it with the cinema and with the series by streaming.
38:13It seems fantastic to me.
38:15To be able to award again to the actors, to the actresses.
38:20All, all, all, all the nominees of everything that has been.
38:23It has been wonderful.
38:25And it seems to me a fantastic opening.
38:28And I hope it lasts for many years.
38:30Like television.
38:32And why can't there be any other?
38:34Another genre?
38:35Maybe?
38:36I hope so.
38:37Well.
38:38Nothing.
38:39We have talked a lot tonight.
38:41Thank you all.
38:42Each one was able to convey what he felt.
38:46I felt very, very happy.
38:48My mood, when one is recognized, is obviously gratifying.
38:53And I love to share it with each one of you,
38:57as it was before that happened to me,
39:00that I felt it with my soul, the public.
39:03I also feel that we all take Gracielita's words, this tribe.
39:09But in general, the colleagues with whom I think I have worked,
39:14with many colleagues,
39:16and I have been very happy to have this distinction,
39:19it fills my soul.
39:21A mime to the heart.
39:23Very good night to all and thank you very much.
39:26Guillermo Francela!
39:28Well, he thanked everyone, the colleagues.
39:31He was at the Oscars anyway.
39:33Yes, from top to bottom, with all due respect.
39:35Of course.
39:36I think he wanted to put a cloak of peace,
39:40because I think he realized that if he said a word
39:43that could be inconvenient, that was going to end badly.
39:47And apart from what I think,
39:50with respect to all the other actors whom I admire too,
39:53although we think differently,
39:55it seems to me that he thanked someone
39:57no one had agreed to thank.
39:59To the public.
40:00Who finally chooses you.
40:01No, but that was a double message.
40:03This was I'm not crying, subsidy,
40:05I thank the public, which is the one who pays to see me.
40:07But Pampi, let's not think so badly out there.
40:10No, but it has to do with the people.
40:12More or less.
40:13And it seems to me that he thanked the people.
40:15Then Brandoni went up and said the same thing,
40:17he said, I'm going to steal your words, Guillermo,
40:19I'm going to thank you at a time when I was censored.
40:21We are still on the subject.
40:23Yes, he said something else, Brandoni, nothing to do with it.
40:25No, but he says, I have to thank you,
40:27because it was the one who paid to see me
40:29when no one hired me, it was the public.
40:31He was at the top of the situation.
40:33But that's what Florencia told us.
40:34Let's see, Brandoni and Franchella are intimate friends.
40:36In fact, they made a cameo,
40:38both Brandoni in The Man in Charge and Franchella in Nada.
40:40I say, that bond is what Franchella also protected.
40:43I say it in a good way, because protecting is a way
40:45also to understand where Guillermo was located.
40:48Susana, Natalia, Graciela.
40:51I say, there was a line, as you say, Flor,
40:53of mega figures that in some way,
40:55beyond the applause or no applause,
40:57looked at Franchella with admiration and gratitude.
40:59And also, unlike Franchella,
41:01is a person who never expresses himself politically,
41:06who is not one of the artists who expressed himself politically,
41:08nor does he do it, nor is he interested in doing it.
41:11It's not a business.
41:12No, it's from another time.
41:13Because also at one time they told you
41:15that it was not good to politicize,
41:18that it was not good, because this is not from now.
41:20Yes.
41:21Do you remember the table that told him,
41:23how was it, that told him, Mirtha,
41:25you are very politicized, I wanted to talk about this.
41:29Do you remember?
41:30Yes, of course.
41:31Because she is from the militancy,
41:32I say, there were always militant actors,
41:34I say, Brisky, everyone from the old days,
41:36from Cetela, Natcha, all those who lived.
41:38Cetela was.
41:39I say, Norma Leandor too, who had to exile,
41:41I don't know.
41:42So, it seems to me that after that time,
41:45many considered, and above all,
41:47that Franchella filmed a lot after 1983,
41:49most of the movies he made,
41:51he made them at that time,
41:53was not to speak up politically,
41:55not to say if one is on one side,
41:57and the other, that it was not good,
41:59because that divided.
42:00And some actors stayed,
42:01and others chose not to do it.
42:02Later, with the Quintet,
42:03many decided to express themselves or not,
42:05I don't know.
42:06They are elections.
42:07Totally.
42:08But it seems to me that the important thing
42:09is that we can all think differently,
42:11but we can live together.
42:12Exactly.
42:13Because if not, we are uncivilized people,
42:14that we cannot live together at a party.
42:15Not because they are better,
42:16the feeling that remains, it seems to me.
42:18That is why there is so much anger,
42:19and I think that the actors would have to worry more
42:22about how to find a beta to act,
42:24instead of those speeches.
42:26I was surprised by Carla Peters,
42:28when she dedicated forces to her husband,
42:30the husband who raised his hand,
42:32there as ashamed,
42:33to increase his salary.
42:34It seems to me,
42:35she is an excellent actress,
42:37it seems to me that there are places for everything.
42:40What I think is that there,
42:42that award, which was great,
42:44came out spectacularly organized by this channel,
42:46it gave Martin Fierro a level.
42:48Be careful with what you say,
42:49because you are going to call Dugan.
42:51I don't know if he has my phone,
42:53I don't care.
42:54It seems that there are spaces for everything,
42:56and that everything can also be said,
42:58but always taking care of the form.
43:00I like where you are going,
43:02because another of the debates that was put together,
43:04and that I was listening to just yesterday at the Mangel,
43:06was that they said,
43:08because this is still being talked about,
43:10everything that has been generated,
43:12and they said that perhaps what had to be done
43:14was a table of dialogue,
43:16so that each person expresses himself,
43:18which was not,
43:19as many continue to believe,
43:20that it was not the scope.
43:21But also,
43:22I say, maybe a table does not have the same repercussion
43:24that this had.
43:25Because this is a prize that is looked at all over the world.
43:28So it is also,
43:29I say, the actors,
43:30many sought that effect.
43:32To make it visible, of course.
43:33To make it visible.
43:34And a week passed and we kept talking about the subject.
43:36But that's why I tell you,
43:37because I say,
43:38would it work the same
43:39if a table of dialogue was made,
43:40that each one expresses his different opinions?
43:42I don't know if it would work.
43:43But what I think is,
43:44we stayed all angry,
43:45taking sides from one side and the other,
43:47and we didn't get to any solution.
43:49It's just seeing,
43:50for example,
43:51when Norman Bisque spoke,
43:53who is an excellent actor,
43:54and director,
43:55and actor trainer,
43:56but what he said was a mess,
43:58there were people who applauded him and smiled.
44:00I want to believe that they didn't even understand what he said.
44:03I want to stay thinking about that.
44:05Well, there is the difference,
44:06from what you say,
44:07from Franchella and Brandoni.
44:09When they punched Peterson and Nancy Duplat,
44:13for example,
44:14with Norman Bisque,
44:15they applauded happily.
44:17When they punched him,
44:18Luis Brandoli was talking,
44:19with his face packed.
44:20There are memes,
44:21it's full of memes.
44:22Well, now I say him,
44:23because he is very crazy.
44:24He feels,
44:25it occurred to me,
44:26that he feels more recognized outside than here.
44:28That's why a smile,
44:29Martin Fierro gave it to him.
44:31He was very happy with Martin Fierro.
44:33For him,
44:34I think he didn't expect it.
44:35I think he didn't expect it,
44:36that's why he felt a smile there.
44:38I think so.
44:39Yes, that's why.
44:40But what happens is,
44:41that's why it's good,
44:42first, that there are awards,
44:43second,
44:44that also,
44:45here,
44:46I mean,
44:47people love him.
44:48People love him.
44:49Yes, they love him.
44:50I think that few actors
44:51are more loved than him,
44:52but yes,
44:53obviously,
44:54that he goes abroad,
44:55and of course,
44:56it's an international star.
44:57Sometimes,
44:58as you have him here,
44:59you don't value him.
45:00Yes, but he doesn't mention him.
45:01He doesn't mention him.
45:02He sees Mirta every day,
45:03every Saturday,
45:04eating,
45:05and you say,
45:06but Mirta is great.
45:07Guys,
45:08Darío is a star now,
45:09touring around Spain,
45:10with Encina de la Vida,
45:11with Juay,
45:12and he breaks it.
45:13What you say,
45:14Kari,
45:15I understand that,
45:16obviously,
45:17but I don't understand
45:18why these things happen.
45:19The artists,
45:20now,
45:21with the elections
45:22in the United States,
45:23now,
45:24all the artists
45:25speak out
45:26against Trump,
45:27because,
45:28obviously,
45:29the artists
45:30have that message,
45:31and it happens.
45:32Let's see,
45:33the Oscars happened,
45:34the Golden Globes.
45:35Yes,
45:36but it happens a little bit,
45:37Guido.
45:38No, it happens.
45:39No,
45:40not all of them
45:41go up.
45:42Don't believe you.
45:43Because,
45:44they put him as an example.
45:45Ah,
45:46but you know what
45:47they don't see
45:48about what happened
45:49that night?
45:50For me,
45:51it's what I value,
45:52and I think
45:53it's interesting
45:54to be able to dimension it,
45:55because you say,
45:56only certain actors
45:57were pronounced
45:58that have a thought
45:59that you say
46:00is closer to Kirchnerism,
46:01or closer to
46:02left-wingism,
46:03or whatever you want.
46:04But in this case,
46:05let's listen to Graciela Borges,
46:06who, in general,
46:07is not pronounced.
46:08Let's listen to Loreiro,
46:09who, in general,
46:10is not pronounced.
46:11Let's listen to Mirtha Legrand,
46:12who, in general,
46:13I mean,
46:14who can accuse
46:15of being left-wing.
46:16So, when you listen
46:17to speeches
46:18of people
46:19who, in general,
46:20never express themselves
46:21politically,
46:22it tells me,
46:23well, something is happening.
46:24Because sometimes
46:25when you're just saying
46:26it's a sector,
46:27it wasn't a sector,
46:28people were pronounced
46:29that weren't pronounced.
46:30But, sorry,
46:31what Mirtha said
46:32was logical.
46:33We all believe
46:34what Mirtha said,
46:35that the Inca
46:36doesn't have to close
46:37and what we have to do
46:38is control
46:39and that the Aguita
46:40doesn't fall apart
46:41as it had been falling apart.
46:42What I'm saying is,
46:43public health,
46:44I don't know,
46:45I don't know,
46:46I don't know,
46:47I don't know,
46:48I don't know,
46:49I don't know,
46:50I don't know,
46:51I don't know,
46:52I don't know,
46:53I don't know,
46:54I don't know,
46:55I don't know,
46:56I don't know,
46:57I don't know,
46:58I don't know,
46:59I don't know,
47:00I don't know,
47:01I don't know,
47:02I don't know,
47:03I don't know,
47:04I don't know,
47:05I don't know,
47:06I don't know,
47:07I don't know,
47:08I don't know,
47:09I don't know,
47:10I don't know,
47:11I don't know,
47:12I don't know,