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مدي 1 تي في : مع "21TACH" - 30/10/2024

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00:00Hello and welcome to a new episode of your show, Art and Daily Patchwork.
00:19I'm happy to be here with you as always to present to you some of the latest news about the art scene.
00:26So let's get started.
00:30Hello again. I suggest we go and discover what's new in today's episode.
01:00Let's go.
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02:38Our guest today is a 21-year-old rapper.
02:40Hello.
02:42Hello.
02:44How are you?
02:46I'm fine.
02:48What is your favorite rap style?
02:50I like to rap in a different style.
02:52I like to rap in a different style.
02:54I like to mix different styles.
02:56I like to mix different styles.
02:58I like to mix different styles.
03:00I like to mix different styles.
03:02I like to mix different styles.
03:04I like to mix different styles.
03:06I like to mix different styles.
03:08I like to mix different styles.
03:10I like to mix different styles.
03:12I like to mix different styles.
03:14I like to mix different styles.
03:16I like to mix different styles.
03:18I like to mix different styles.
03:20I like to mix different styles.
03:22Each person racks their imagination.
03:24A person can make music
03:26A person can make music
03:28in whatever style they want.
03:30in whatever style they want.
03:32In a lot of places,
03:34when people ask how I learn,
03:36in a lot of places,
03:38they say they never learn how to rap.
03:46But I think that
03:48It's better for rappers
03:50because it stays in our ears.
03:52When you were young, you were 16, 17, 18 years old,
03:56you must have heard the Moroccan and international rappers.
03:59Of course.
04:00When you listen to them, what inspires you?
04:03Honestly, I listen to French rap,
04:06Booba, Lafouine,
04:08and then I listen to Moroccan rap,
04:10Tombik, Muslim, Chayfin,
04:13Chayfin a lot.
04:14And what do you see?
04:16Do you take from these names even 5% or 10%?
04:20Of course.
04:21Of course.
04:22You take from them,
04:23and then you create your own character,
04:25your own style.
04:27And regarding the topics you discuss,
04:30we say social issues,
04:32topics that concern young people.
04:34Yes.
04:35Social issues and young people.
04:37We talk a lot about these topics,
04:40how people can't find a job,
04:42how it's hard to raise a child.
04:44We talk about these topics a lot.
04:46We first talked about it in a series called Pharmacy.
04:50Pharmacy 2.
04:51Yes, Pharmacy 2.
04:52We gathered all the problems of that year and talked about it.
04:56She said, we need to talk about it.
04:58We need to talk about it.
05:00I said, let's talk about it.
05:01I said, you don't know what Pharmacy is.
05:04You told me about the concept of 21.
05:06Why did you name it Pharmacy?
05:08And why is it a series?
05:11Tell us, maybe it won't spoil the movie,
05:15but tell us how you came up with the concept of Pharmacy.
05:20Honestly, Pharmacy was the summary of the year.
05:24What was going on in the year, the problems,
05:26what I saw.
05:27I grew up in a small town,
05:28and what we saw was the summary of Pharmacy.
05:31And when I was asked to do Pharmacy every year,
05:34I was a freestyle dancer.
05:36And the first thing I said was,
05:38Pharmacy is a drug that you can't sell in the pharmacy.
05:42And that's what I did,
05:44and I tried to make it a series.
05:47What does this sentence mean?
05:50If I don't need the drug,
05:52if the drug is the drug,
05:54there's no harm in the pharmacy.
05:56Pharmacy is a drug.
05:57That's one of the metaphors.
05:58So money, for you,
06:00heals a lot of diseases.
06:02A lot of diseases.
06:03What heals a lot of diseases?
06:06Do you forget the disease with money?
06:08Honestly, no.
06:09The disease is like a drug.
06:12It doesn't heal money.
06:14They can delude you that you're rich.
06:16No, money is important.
06:19Does money help you be happy?
06:22Are you always happy?
06:24Not always,
06:25but 80% of the time I'm happy.
06:27For example, if I gave you a choice,
06:30between fame and money.
06:34Honestly, money.
06:35I don't have a choice.
06:37Honestly, money.
06:38Money.
06:40And fame can bring money.
06:42Fame has consequences.
06:44You can't be famous.
06:46You can't be comfortable.
06:48If you have money and you don't feel it,
06:50you can do whatever you want.
06:52Give me a punchline.
06:54You're known for punchlines.
06:56One of the punchlines that you like the most,
06:59that you're proud of,
07:01or that you get a lot of in social media?
07:06I like the best punchline.
07:08First of all,
07:09it's always them who support me.
07:11I have a lot of friends who support me.
07:13Wow.
07:15This is a pharmacy.
07:17There are a lot of deep meanings.
07:21There's an important question for you.
07:23You asked,
07:25why do you play with meaning?
07:27How do you make people follow you?
07:29How do you make people follow you?
07:31A lot of people say that you write about your mother.
07:34At least in your book,
07:36do you write about your mother?
07:38Do you write about your mother and her story?
07:41Or do you write about your mother in general?
07:44Honestly, I write about my mother.
07:46I think there are a lot of mothers like her in Morocco.
07:50My mother has a unique story.
07:53She's a 100% capable mother.
07:58She helped me a lot.
08:00She was patient with me.
08:02I'm proud of her.
08:04That's why I always try to write about her.
08:06What example would you like to give us?
08:09The simplest example is reading.
08:13Your son comes to you and says,
08:15I don't want to read anymore.
08:17At that moment,
08:19you're in a bad situation.
08:21You see your son getting lost.
08:23He can't get any money.
08:26He makes a decision,
08:28but you don't accept it.
08:30You just say,
08:32I don't want to read anymore.
08:34Do you try to convince your son to read?
08:37Of course.
08:39I always try to convince my son to read.
08:42He's a bit stubborn.
08:44Of course.
08:46As we say, God forgive us.
08:48God forgive us.
08:50In your book,
08:52you say,
08:54one of your goals
08:56and one of your dreams
08:58is to see you in the future.
09:00She wants to see me in the future.
09:02She's proud of you.
09:04She's 100% proud of you.
09:06God bless your mother.
09:10God bless her.
09:12God bless all mothers.
09:14Mothers need to be patient,
09:16fight, understand,
09:18and get closer to their children
09:20if they're talented,
09:22if they're good at drawing,
09:24dancing,
09:26or being an influencer.
09:28A message for parents
09:30of this generation,
09:32young people,
09:34who have a misunderstanding
09:36between themselves
09:38and their parents.
09:40They tell their parents,
09:42don't go to the movies,
09:44don't study hard,
09:46don't make money.
09:48What do you say to them?
09:50What do you say to a young parent today?
09:52Honestly,
09:54I want to tell them
09:56that they're the ones
09:58who are afraid of their children.
10:00But I want to tell them
10:02that if they have children
10:04or a talent,
10:06try to help them.
10:08Try to understand them.
10:10Sometimes they take a big risk.
10:12You can't succeed
10:14100% of the time.
10:16Do you understand?
10:18I want to tell them to be patient
10:20and listen to their parents.
10:22A lot of parents don't listen to their children.
10:24They can do this
10:26by reading,
10:28by serving.
10:30If you give them the chance
10:32to succeed,
10:34they can go far and reach the world.
10:36They can buy the first and second house.
10:38Of course.
10:40That's what we want to show you,
10:42Osama.
10:44Osama, this is a quick game.
10:46There are two answers.
10:48You have to choose one of them.
10:50Do you agree?
10:52Yes.
10:54Mocho or Big?
10:56Mocho.
10:58Mocho.
11:00Live or Studio?
11:02Studio.
11:04Album or EP?
11:06Album.
11:08Track or Freestyle?
11:10Freestyle.
11:12You're famous for Freestyle.
11:14Tchoubi or Abdo?
11:16Tchoubi.
11:18One.
11:20Try to guess.
11:22Abdo.
11:24Abdo.
11:26You should work with Tchoubi.
11:28Lyrics video or video clip?
11:30Video clip.
11:32Keshmara or Kaza?
11:34Kaza.
11:36The new version of Keshmara.
11:38I want to read Kaza.
11:40Not the whole Kaza.
11:42I want to read Kaza Negra.
11:44No, we have a lot of famous people
11:46who live in Kaza.
11:48We want to present Kaza Negra.
11:50But reality shouldn't be like that.
11:52Kaza Negra is beautiful.
11:54Kaza Blanca.
11:56We have Kaza Negra
11:58and Kaza Blanca.
12:00This is a difficult one.
12:02Mother or father?
12:04Mother.
12:06It's hard.
12:08You have to choose one.
12:10Can't you choose one?
12:12Tchoubi.
12:16Wenza or Deezer?
12:18Wenza.
12:20Do you want to work with him?
12:22He is close to me.
12:24I am close to him.
12:26Deezer or Spotify?
12:28Spotify.
12:32I don't want to work with Deezer.
12:36Old school or new generation?
12:40New generation.
12:42Floumine or Ramoun?
12:44Ramoun.
12:46Vera or Nizan?
12:48Nizan.
12:5221-11 or Osama?
12:5621-11.
12:58Do you show people
13:00Osama or 21-11?
13:02It doesn't matter.
13:04You grew up in Kaza.
13:06You were born in Kaza and Ulfa.
13:08What is your inspiration?
13:12You are my inspiration.
13:14I watch a lot of movies.
13:16I watch a lot of movies.
13:18I watch a lot of movies.
13:20I watch a lot of movies.
13:22I am a coffee drinker.
13:24I go for coffee with the kids.
13:26They listen to me.
13:28They listen to me.
13:30They listen to me.
13:32They listen to me.
13:34You sit down with them
13:36You've been working with them for a long time, and you've seen a lot of things, and from those things you've come up with a film, an album, an EP.
13:43Of course, because they are the people who have reached what you can't see.
13:48I don't live a lot of scenarios in my life.
13:51I can go with someone older than me and live a lot of scenarios in my life.
13:54And I get back to the mistakes he made and the achievements he made, and I benefit from it.
14:00But, excuse me, do you have a lot of friends who are older than you?
14:06I used to go to play football with my father's friends.
14:11I used to go like this.
14:13I used to see old men and young men and play football with them.
14:16So you can appreciate the information, the topics, and so on.
14:21Of course.
14:22Thank God.
14:23Do you have any children?
14:25Of course.
14:26I have three children.
14:28Congratulations.
14:29Do you have a new EP?
14:32Of course.
14:33It's the first project I'm working on.
14:35Honestly, I want to give it my all.
14:38I've been working on a project for three years now.
14:41It's all single.
14:42And this year, God willing, I decided to do an EP.
14:45Honestly, it's difficult.
14:46It's the first time I've had this experience.
14:48But, thank God, I've fulfilled this responsibility and I'm going to give you a good EP.
14:54What do you think of the EP?
14:56According to my information, it will be released in December 2024.
15:01So in one, two, or three months.
15:03What do you think of it now?
15:05What's the strategy?
15:06Is it mixed, masterized, or still?
15:09Honestly, we've started with it.
15:11I don't know about you, but we've started to change things.
15:15According to what's on the EP list,
15:17we want to do a development tour.
15:20An update.
15:22We want to give them new music,
15:24but they don't want to listen to the old stuff.
15:26We've received a lot of comments saying that they want to hear the old stuff.
15:29But we want to give them the old stuff in a new style.
15:33We want to give them beautiful styles, different styles,
15:36so that they can adapt to anything.
15:39And we'll try to mix them in the EP.
15:41Is this a good thing or a bad thing,
15:44that you can adapt to anything?
15:46Good or bad?
15:48A band can make you a fan of a certain style,
15:53but you can't show them another style,
15:55and say, no, I'm in this style.
15:57On the contrary, I don't make music to make me a fan of a band.
16:00I make music because I like it.
16:02And I want to do something that I'm satisfied with.
16:04And I want to give the band something else.
16:07I don't want the audience to think that I'm doing this or that.
16:10I don't want them to think that I'm doing this or that.
16:13I want them to stay monotonous,
16:15and I want them to do the same thing.
16:17I don't want them to think that I'm doing this or that.
16:20I want them to stay monotonous,
16:22and I want them to see me in a new color every day.
16:25What do you focus on in this EP?
16:28Is it the music?
16:30The lyrics and the topics?
16:32Or is it the style?
16:34Rap? Ego trip?
16:36Clash?
16:38There's a clash.
16:40There's a clash in the EP.
16:42It's not a good project without the lyrics,
16:46the flow, the technique,
16:48and the mix.
16:50You've been working on this EP for 21 years.
16:56You've been working on it little by little,
16:58and now you're famous.
17:00Thank God for that.
17:02But maybe the clash helped you a lot.
17:05And this clash,
17:08it's not just a phone call.
17:12There's a strategy behind it.
17:16You meet the artist,
17:18or as they say in rap,
17:23you clash a little bit,
17:25to benefit from his popularity,
17:27and move forward a few steps.
17:30Tell me honestly.
17:32I know you're honest.
17:34Honestly, I didn't do the clash
17:36because I didn't want to do it.
17:38You did it once.
17:40Yes, I did it once.
17:42Most clashes are like,
17:44someone pulls me,
17:46or it's the first clash,
17:48and I have to fight back.
17:50He gives me the right to fight back.
17:52I've never pulled anyone.
17:54I've never had a problem with that.
17:56There are guys who never pulled you.
17:58I didn't want to do it.
18:00I told him,
18:02and we met in Marrakech.
18:04I told him,
18:06Figo is not Figo.
18:08Figo is a game.
18:10Figo is a game,
18:12but you're a good rapper.
18:14It's the public.
18:16In Morocco,
18:18when you say you're a star,
18:20you mean something,
18:22and you fight back.
18:24When they attack you,
18:26you say you have the right to fight back.
18:28Why didn't you pull him?
18:30I didn't pull him,
18:32because it's a different thing.
18:34It's a different thing.
18:36It's far from art and space.
18:38I wanted to get out of the prison.
18:40I didn't want people to get out of the prison.
18:42Okay.
18:44What about the clashes in the European Union?
18:46I can't tell you.
18:48Can you tell us,
18:50how does an artist start?
18:52There's not just one artist.
18:54There are a lot of artists.
18:56There are four minutes,
18:58and there are a lot of artists.
19:00I don't want to talk about them.
19:02I don't want to.
19:04Pause.
19:06No, I want to talk about my relationship with him.
19:08Wow.
19:10I think you'll see it today.
19:12Why didn't you understand
19:14someone you worked with in Italy?
19:16You worked with Abdo,
19:18where did he go?
19:20Honestly, in Morocco,
19:22I didn't understand
19:24someone I knew,
19:26X7 Akira,
19:28we didn't understand each other.
19:30We had a good relationship.
19:32Didn't you want to end it?
19:34No, I didn't understand him.
19:36Thank God, he's very talented.
19:38I liked his work, but I didn't understand him.
19:40Okay.
19:42I want to ask you,
19:44what do you think of JamShow?
19:46It's a show
19:48that explores and encourages
19:50the talents of rap.
19:52You've seen it, of course,
19:54and you know about it.
19:56You've been there,
19:58and you're a rapper.
20:00What do you think of this initiative
20:02that was the first round
20:04of this season?
20:06Honestly, it's beautiful.
20:08They built a new trailer.
20:10They have the potential.
20:12No one can give
20:14the same thing
20:16to a new trailer.
20:18They should have started earlier.
20:20They had the opportunity
20:22to do something different.
20:24It's the same concept.
20:26It's not nearly the same.
20:28It's not the same concept.
20:30We're talking about the same concept.
20:32It started in the 90s.
20:34MTV.
20:36In Morocco?
20:38No, not in Morocco.
20:40We know everything.
20:44Who do you think
20:46is the best international rapper?
20:48International?
20:50I can't recall.
20:52Who do you think
20:54is the best Moroccan rapper?
20:56The best Moroccan rapper?
20:58After me?
21:00Wow,
21:02that's not a good rap.
21:04After me?
21:06I don't know.
21:08Honestly, I like Fatmezo.
21:10Fatmezo and
21:12Oftar.
21:14I salute Fatmezo.
21:16Brother,
21:18we're proud of you.
21:20We got to know you,
21:22your world,
21:24your inspirations.
21:26What's your last message?
21:28My last message is
21:30God bless you.
21:32Keep working.
21:34God willing.
21:38Good luck in the future.
21:40Stay tuned for the trailer.
21:42We've reached the end of today's episode.
21:44Thanks to the technical team
21:46and the artists.
21:48The episodes of Patchwork
21:50will be broadcasted daily
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21:54and on mediantv.com.
21:56Good luck.
21:58Patchwork.