Anees Bazmee discusses carrying on the legacy of master director Priyadarshan's Bhool Bhulaiyaa with its sequels, such as Bhool Bhulaiyaa 2 and Bhool Bhulaiyaa 3, in an exclusive conversation with Bharathi S Pradhan for Lehren Retro. The charismatic director shares some previously unheard information about not starring actor Akshay Kumar in the horror-comedy franchise again and talks about their close bond. Bazmee also reminisces about his past association with the on-screen Manjulika - Vidya Balan and expresses happiness about working with her in the 3rd segment.
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00:00When you made Bhool Bhoola 2, did you speak to Priyadarshan Ji?
00:11Priyadarshan Ji ne mujhe phone kiya, so nice of him and mujhe lagta hai ki aise log bahut
00:17kam is line me jo bade khush hone wale log hai. Priyadarshan Ji ko mai bahut pehle se
00:23janta hu and wo janta hai ki main unhe bahut pasand kar dao. To jab aapko yeh pata hota
00:27hai ki koi insaan aapko bahut pasand karta hai, to usse na pasand karne ke liye aapko
00:32bahut meinat karne padhi hai. So he knows, I respect him a lot as a film maker and mujhe
00:39insaan ke taur pe bhi bahut pasand hai. To unhe na mujhe khud phone kiya ki, Aneez, I
00:42am so happy ki tum yeh film bana rahe ho, isliye ki yeh achi zimmedaari hai, badi zimmedaari
00:47hai aur I am very sure ki yaar tum bahut achi film bana hoge. To maine kiya, thank you sir.
00:53Yeh unka pyaar hai, unki mohabbat hai.
00:55That's very nice. Did you have to talk to Akshay ki main yeh aapke saath nahi bana
01:01raha ho?
01:02Akshay ji ke saath, mulaqaat toh hoti rehti hai, Akshay ji ke saath bahut dosti hai aur
01:05abhi bhi kuch plan hum kar rahe hain, shayad zarur karenge. Akshay ji ke saath zindagi
01:09ki do itni khubsri film bana hi hai, jo mujhe lagta hai ki meri zindagi ke liye ek hamesha
01:15yaad rahi hai aur unke liye bhi, Singh is King and Welcome.
01:18Welcome.
01:19To unke saath wahi equation, wahi dosti, wahi mohabbat, wahi pyaar aaj bhi hai. And
01:24jab film ban rahi thi, toh naturally, producers, yeh saari jo log hai, unse mulaqaat hoti
01:30rehti thi. Aur yeh unke saari decision the, agar aap mujhse poochein, toh Akshay ji ke
01:35saath, toh main hamesha kaam karna chahata hoon, isliye ki he is damn good actor and
01:39bahut dosti hai, bahut acha mahaul hai, bahut khushi hoti hai unke saath kaam karne mein.
01:43Toh beeg bhi bhi mulaqaat hoti rahi, uss waqt bhi mulaqaat hoti rahi.
01:45Toh kabhi yeh baat nahi aayi ki, how come it is?
01:47I think it is a very small thing for him.
01:49For him, actually it is.
01:51He is a big star, itne bade star hain, itne bade actor hain, ki wo ek film kar rahe hain,
01:57nahi kar rahe hain, unhe koi fayda nukhsaan, matlab doosron ke nukhsaan ho sakta hai, unhe
02:01nahi.
02:02Also, I think, they also understand ki yeh film making hai. You have to go with what
02:07suits the character.
02:08Ya, absolutely.
02:09Itna toh...
02:10Bilkul, bilkul.
02:11They all understand.
02:12They understand.
02:13All actors are very matured. Unko samajh mein aata hai.
02:17And did you feel a little hesitant because aapne second instalment ko unko liya nahi?
02:22Toh little embarrassment...
02:24Mujhe lagta hai ki yeh saare jo adhakaar hain, saare jo actors hain, jo matured hain, jo
02:28kaam karna jaante hain, kaam kar sakte hain, they know ke bhai kabhi kya vision hota hai,
02:33kabhi kya zarurat hoti hai, toh aisa kuch nahi tha.
02:36And koi aaj se toh main jaanta nahi hoon Vidya ji ko. Vidya ji ko main us zamane se jaanta
02:41hoon, matlab meri unki dosti kaafi purani chalti hai.
02:46Kaam?
02:47Nee, kaam maine kiya hai, bahut chhota sa ek film banayi thi maine Thank You.
02:51Ittifaq ki baate hain ki maine takreeban, film laan mein chitri bhi actors hoon, unki
02:57liye kuch na kuch toh likha hi hain, kuch filme likhi hungi.
03:00Ek Vidya ji thi, jin ke liye kuch film likhi nahi, lekin jab mujhe Thank You mein zarurat
03:05padi unki, toh maine unko phone kiya aur dekhiye unki, unhone ka thik hai.
03:12And it was just a guest appearance, only for 2-3 days work.
03:15And koi us waqt meri dosti nahi thi, maine kaam nahi kiya tha, uske baawajood unhone
03:20kaam kiya hoon.
03:21Unhone kaam kiya hoon.
03:22So, nice.
03:23And bada pyaara kaam kiya tha, toh meri toh dosti kharta usse chal rahi hai.
03:26And yeh woh saare log hain jo jaanta hain, kyaan pe, kya hona chahiye.
03:30Aur aaj jab mujhe lagaya ki, nahi, is film mein Vidya ji hoongi, toh bahot chaah ho gaya
03:34and she was very happy.
03:36So, let me just go back a little bit to Bhul Bhula Yaar 2, when you took the town.
03:41Little bit you said you hesitated because it's that psychological thriller.
03:47Why was that hesitation there?
03:49Because mujhe lag raha tha, ke ek itni khusroot film banayi hai, psychological thriller pe
03:54aur ussi ko aage maine kiya, toh utni khusroot picture banana bahut mushkil hoga.
04:00Is leh ki Priya, Darshan ji ne aur Akshay and Vidya ne bada khusroot kaam kiya,
04:05aur bada khusroot film banayi thi.
04:07Toh main, aur main chaha bhi raha tha, ki main kuch thoda different karoon.
04:10Usse wohi reason tha.
04:11You can't make the same thing.
04:13Aaj dekhi, mai ab aapko batao ki, maine jab No Entry banayi, ab No Entry 2 banayi me
04:17itna waqt lag gaya.
04:18Just because, ki what next, kya karein, kahaan alag level pe le jayein.
04:23Toh aaj yeh jo teesri film banayi hai, yeh competitively agar aap karenge toh haan,
04:28lekin 2 saal mein, mujhe lagta hai ki abhi logon ki yaadash bhi thodi kam hoti jaa rahi hai,
04:32toh abhi abhi yaadash mein hai, ki yaar yeh bade khusroot picture thi, toh uska fayda hi hoga.
04:36Lekin woh karne ka koi aur reason nahi tha.
04:39Reason sirf yeh tha, ki we got a beautiful story.
04:42Toh bahut khusroot story hai, and bahut mada raha hai,
04:46we are enjoying like anything.
04:48And not only me, I think entire unit and everybody is very excited and very happy.
04:57What is your, what do you think is that one thing which is going to make such a difference to Bollywood?
05:03It's very difficult to tell one thing. Lot of things are there.
05:06And when you see the film na, then you come to know ki acha, isli hai nahi se aisa keh raha tha.
05:11Isme bada khusroot music hai, bahut khusroot writing hai,
05:15I think performance ek alag level ke hai, dialogues hai.
05:19Is film ki taking bhi agar aap dekhenge, toh mujhe aisa lag raha hai ki,
05:23maine kitni filme bana di, lekin kuch, main jo abhi isme kar raha hu,
05:27kuch ajeeb hai, kuch alag hai, toh we all are excited.
05:30You know Bhool Bhulaiya, the first was directed by Priyadarshan ji.
05:35And the second one came to you. So how did that happen?
05:39Ki abhi toh Bhool Bhulaiya Anees Bajne ki property ban gayi hai.
05:42Anees Bajne ki property nahi, yeh property jo hai woh Rukshan Kumar ji ke liye.
05:47I understand of course, but what I mean is you know,
05:50it has gone gradually from Priyadarshan to Anees Bajne.
05:54So yeh kaise hua?
05:56Waheguru ji kiya hota hai, yeh hum director jo innocent hote hain,
06:00ussi mein khush ho jate hain, jab humara naam likha aata,
06:02a film by an Anees Bajne film.
06:06But khair, wo film jab tak release hoti hai, toh naturally,
06:09uske saath ek alag lagaon hota hai, aur ek alag jasba hota hai.
06:13Toh wo poori mehne se hum log humara kaam karte hain.
06:16And jahaan tak Priyadarshan kiya, Priyadarshan ji ka mamla hai,
06:19Priyadarshan ji jo hai, mujhe lagta hai bahut hi khusurat director hai,
06:22badha nahi kitna kaam kiya unhone.
06:24Aur jo pehle film banayi thi, wo toh matlab iconic film thi,
06:28jab maine film dekhi, toh mujhe itni hain chhe lagi,
06:30toh usmein saare logon ne bahut chhe kaam kiya tha,
06:32Akshay ji ho, Vidya ji ho, aur baadi saare log.
06:35And Priyadarshan ji ka kaam bahut kya raha tha.
06:38Toh abhi iss film ke andar, jab mujhe inhone approach kiya,
06:41toh main toh khair, matlab, horror,
06:43main psychological thriller nahi banana chah raha tha.
06:46Aapne kiya tha na, Diwangi and all that.
06:48Haan, isi liye.
06:49Because us film mein jo mujhe taklife aayi thi,
06:52kyunki film bahut khusurat thi, Ajay Devgan ki aaj tak tarif hoti hai.
06:57Aur film mein, jo log hain, jitna logon ne film dekhi ho,
07:00unhone ne kaha ki yeh lagta hi nahi hai,
07:02ki us insaan ne film banayi hai,
07:04jisne Pyaar Toh Hona The, jisne Romantic film banayi,
07:07yaar No Entry, Welcome, aisi jo film mein banayi hai,
07:11toh it was a quite different mere liye genre tha.
07:14Aur bahut madha bhi aaya tha film banane mein,
07:17lekin yeh sachayi hai,
07:19ke jab wo iss tarah ki filme hoti hai,
07:22toh alag zahin pe dabaa hota hai, toh main film bana di.
07:25Aur kyunki yeh film bahut baddi hit hui thi,
07:28humari pehli Bulbulaiyaan,
07:30isliye main yeh chah nahi raha tha.
07:32Zyada pressure.
07:33Pressure nahi, competition ki yeh hi hai.
07:35Aur shayad mujhe yeh bhi laga,
07:37ke main bahut alag nahi kar sakunga.
07:39Jab hum filme banate hain, franchise,
07:41toh usmein baddi ajeeb baat hoti hai,
07:43ke aapko uske jaisi film banani hai,
07:45lekin wohi film nahi banani hai.
07:47Nahi banani hai.
07:48Toh woh bahut hi,
07:49reh seh reh ish pe aap chal rahe hain,
07:51ke yaha, yaha, dono jaga problem bhi hai.
07:53Toh phir maine decide kiya ki,
07:55nahi Arthur, horror hona chahiye,
07:57comedy hona chahiye,
07:58and horror and comedy ka jo combination hai,
08:00aur jo dono ke ras hai,
08:01woh bahut pyaare hain.
08:02And we worked on that,
08:04and phir main,
08:06jisme fikar mein raha hameesha,
08:08ki yaar horror picture mein toh
08:10bachche nahi aate hain,
08:11family film nahi hoti hain,
08:12aur main toh hameesha family films banata hoon.
08:14Toh phir maine us tarah ki horror banaye,
08:17ki itna dar lage bachchon ko,
08:19ke thode dare bhi,
08:20aur picture dekhe bhi.
08:22And jab aapko yeh Bhool Bhoolaiya ka offer aaya tha,
08:25matlab aisa nahi ki,
08:27aapne likh ke Bhushan ji ko bola ki,
08:30main karna chahata.
08:31Nahi, nahi, nahi.
08:32Offer aapke paas aaya.
08:33Yeh ki kahaani jo hai,
08:34us pe hum toh bahut pehle se kaam kar rahe the.
08:36Kisi aur naam se.
08:38Yeh aisa nahi tha ki Bhool Bhoolaiya hain,
08:40kaam kar rahe the,
08:41aur jab yeh laga ki bahut achcha ban raha hai,
08:44aur isme yeh cheez agar mila di jaye,
08:46toh yeh bahut achcha commercial decision ho sakta hai,
08:49aur jab hum logon ne isme kaam karna churu kiya,
08:52toh aisa laga ki nahi,
08:53yeh aisa lagta bhi nahi,
08:54ki humne kuch jaan mooch ke kiya,
08:56bahut hi natural flow tha.
08:57Toh humne aise tarah ka kaam kiya.
08:59Okay, okay.
09:00Then you went to Bhushan ji?
09:02Nahi, Bhushan ji aur Murad bhai,
09:04Murad bhai jo hai,
09:05unke saath maine kaafi kaam kiya hai,
09:06mere dost hain wo,
09:07and Bhushan ji ke saath bhi kaam kiya hai,
09:09bahut filme mein,
09:10maine unki film banayi thi Ready,
09:12jo bahut kamya film thi,
09:13toh they approached me and,
09:15maine kaha ki haan,
09:16bahut mazha aayega,
09:17kyunki wo chani pachani meri script thi,
09:19jahaate ke hesitation ka maamla hai,
09:21wo toh har film,
09:22jab mujhe koi approach kartha,
09:24toh mujhe bahut sochna padhta hai,
09:25kyunki kya hai,
09:26ki jab,
09:27aapka ek maqsad sirf yeh rehta hai,
09:29film nahi banayi hai,
09:30aur koi aisi film banayi hai,
09:31jo mazha aaye,
09:32logon ki yaad rahe,
09:33aapka naam judha hua hai,
09:35logon ki expectations bahut hai aap se,
09:37toh aapko toh conscious hona hi padhta hai,
09:39toh ab yeh nahi hai,
09:40koi bhi film jo offer ho,
09:42haan yeh bana lete hain,
09:43nahi,
09:44toh sun sakte hain,
09:45soch sakte hain,
09:46samajh sakte hain,
09:47waqt le sakte hain,
09:48ghar baith sakte hain,
09:49office mein aaraam se baith sakte hain,
09:50kya jaldi hai,
09:51aur kya zaruri hai,
09:52ki film banayi hai,
09:53hum bahut,
09:54toh jo banayi hai,
09:55wo poori dil se,
09:56poori junoon se,
09:57poori shiddat se,
09:58aur poori itminan se banayi hai,
09:59aur yeh koshish karke banayi hai,
10:00yeh believe karke banayi hai,
10:01ki nahi yaar,
10:02we are making something very,
10:03very good,
10:04phir uske baad jo anjaam hai,
10:05wo toh,
10:06khair,
10:07audience ke aur upar wajah ke haath mein,
10:08but,
10:09haan,
10:10agar anjaam,
10:11jo aapne socha hai,
10:12wo nahi hai,
10:13toh kamse kaam,
10:14aur ek tasali ka hona,
10:15bahut zaruri hai,
10:16ke maine apna,
10:17two hundred percent,
10:18is film mein diya hai,
10:19baad hi theek hai,
10:20mehnat mein,
10:21kisi kisam ki,
10:22maine kami ki,
10:23yeh feeling nahi aani chahiye,