Pemerintah Kerajaan Arab Saudi akan menerapkan kebijakan baru yaitu mewajibkan bagi petugas haji, baik kloter maupun non kloter membayar paket Masyair atau biaya prosesi ibadah haji di Arafah dan Mina selama empat hari. Kewajiban bayar masyair tersebut akan berlaku pada musim ibadah haji tahun 2025 mendatang.
Disisi lain, Kementerian Agama menyebutkan pada penyelenggaraan ibadah haji tahun sebelumnya, petugas haji baik kloter dan non kloter tidak perlu membayar paket Masyair. Oleh sebab itu, Kementerian Agama menilai perlunya adanya penambahan anggaran dari Anggaran Pendapatan dan Belanja Negara (APBN) untuk membayar paket Masyair para petugas haji yang akan berangkat tahun depan.
Kerajaan Arab saudi juga berencana untuk mengurangi kuota petugas haji tahun 2025, menjadi separuh dari petugas haji 2024 yang berkisar 4.500 orang. Dengan demikian, jumlah petugas yang akan dikenakan layanan Masyair nantinya akan berjumlah 2.250 orang.
Disisi lain, Kementerian Agama menyebutkan pada penyelenggaraan ibadah haji tahun sebelumnya, petugas haji baik kloter dan non kloter tidak perlu membayar paket Masyair. Oleh sebab itu, Kementerian Agama menilai perlunya adanya penambahan anggaran dari Anggaran Pendapatan dan Belanja Negara (APBN) untuk membayar paket Masyair para petugas haji yang akan berangkat tahun depan.
Kerajaan Arab saudi juga berencana untuk mengurangi kuota petugas haji tahun 2025, menjadi separuh dari petugas haji 2024 yang berkisar 4.500 orang. Dengan demikian, jumlah petugas yang akan dikenakan layanan Masyair nantinya akan berjumlah 2.250 orang.
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00:00Yes, the Saudi government plans to adopt a new policy in the form of obligations for pilgrims to pay a water bill,
00:21where the obligation to pay for the Hajj will be carried out from 2025
00:27after the previous year was not covered by the cost of Hajj.
00:33The government of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will implement a new policy
00:37which obliges Hajj workers, both clothed and non-clothed,
00:42to pay the Masyar package or the cost of the process of Hajj worship in Arafat and Mina for four days.
00:49The obligation to pay for the Masyar will take effect in the coming year 2025.
00:55On the other hand, the Ministry of Religious Affairs stated that
00:57in the previous year's Hajj worship,
00:59Hajj workers, both clothed and non-clothed, did not need to pay the Masyar package.
01:04Therefore, the Ministry of Religious Affairs assessed the need for an increase in the budget
01:08from the State Budget and State Sponsorship, or APBN,
01:11to pay the Masyar package to Hajj workers who will depart next year.
01:16The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia also plans to reduce the quota of Hajj workers by 2025
01:20to half of the 2024 Hajj workers, which is 4,500 people.
01:25Thus, the number of tasks that will be assigned to the Masyar service will be as many as 2,250 people.
01:31Meanwhile, based on the Law No. 8 of 2019 on the implementation of Hajj and Umrah worship,
01:38Indonesian Hajj workers, both clothed and non-clothed,
01:41are paid by the State Sponsorship or APBN budget,
01:44while Article 22 verse 6 states that
01:46the operational cost of Hajj worship workers or PPIH is burdened by the APBN
01:51according to the ability of the State Budget.
01:54From Jakarta, I am Aidek Shenow.
02:00Yes, ladies and gentlemen, our topic this time is related to the 2025
02:03Hajj workers must pay the Masyar package.
02:06We have been connected via Zoom with Mr. Zaki Zagarian Sari.
02:10He is the Secretary-General of the Muslim Association of Hajj and Umrah Worshippers of the Republic of Indonesia or UMPURI.
02:16Yes, hello, how are you?
02:18Alhamdulillah, how are you, Mr. Pras?
02:22How are you? I'm fine too.
02:23Alhamdulillah, I'm fine too. Thank you for taking the time, Mr. Zaki,
02:27to be on IDX Channel today.
02:31Well, if we look at what has been said earlier,
02:34let's review first, related to the activities of Hajj worshippers
02:38that have been done in the last few years from the eyes of UMPURI.
02:43What is it like? Please.
02:46Yes, thank you, Mr. Pras. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
02:49Waalaikumsalam.
02:51If we talk, we review about the worship of Hajj worshippers in 2024
02:57or the previous years, we started from 2019 to 2024.
03:02It's going up and down.
03:03If we assume that the worship is based on BPS.
03:08Okay.
03:09Based on BPS, it's going up and down.
03:12In 2023, the satisfaction of the worship of Hajj is a bit down, up to 85%.
03:20This year, BPS released that the satisfaction of the worship of Hajj is up to 88%.
03:27Well, I personally and the UMPURI Association see that the worship of Hajj this year is extraordinarily successful.
03:36We don't just see it from a political point of view, but we see it on the ground.
03:44That the worship of Hajj this year is so successful.
03:48In 2024, this 45th hijriah.
03:51Okay.
03:52And the results from BPS are also quite good.
03:56Because if we look at it, from year to year, the worship of Hajj is getting better.
04:01It's not like the old days.
04:02Okay.
04:03In the old days, the hotel was so far away.
04:05There was only a little catering.
04:07One room could accommodate 10 or 20 people.
04:11Well, in the past 3 years, it's been extraordinary.
04:15The worship of Hajj has increased.
04:16Moreover, the worship of Hajj in 2024.
04:20We do evaluate that the worship of Hajj is also smooth.
04:23So, an incident like last year in Muzdalifah.
04:27It didn't take long.
04:29There was a lot of worship of Hajj until 12 o'clock the next day.
04:32That's amazing.
04:33Alhamdulillah, this year there is no significant problem.
04:37A big problem.
04:39Moreover, the government in this matter is good for the state.
04:43If we review this 2024, it was quite successful with 4 schemes, 4-3-5.
04:524 foundations, 3 economic ecosystem development of Hajj, 5 Hajj innovations.
04:57So, this is real.
05:00It's true that in 2024, we see that the field is better.
05:06Both in terms of services, facilities, and the worship is smooth.
05:12Alhamdulillah.
05:13Okay.
05:14So, overall, it's getting better from year to year for the worship of Hajj in Indonesia.
05:20Well, this is interesting.
05:21The government of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is planning to change one of the Hajj policies for Hajji officers.
05:26Both clouted and non-clouted.
05:29Previously, no fee was imposed.
05:30However, in 2025, it will be mandatory to pay the water package.
05:35What do you think about this, Pak Zaky?
05:39Yes, this needs to be carefully considered.
05:42And it also needs to be planned more accurately.
05:46I mean, it needs to be coordinated between the legislature, the executive, and the government.
05:53In this regard, now the government of Hajj already has one ministry, two bodies.
06:00One ministry of religion, two bodies, the government of Hajj, and also the BPHK.
06:05So, there are three institutions that manage Hajj at the moment.
06:11Well, indeed, for the increase next year,
06:14this is indeed in accordance with the law of law 08-2019 in article 22, verse 6,
06:21that the Hajj officers are clouted or non-clouted, paid by the BPHK.
06:28Now, in this case, if there is an increase,
06:31or if the water package is not burdened,
06:36and then the officers are burdened with the water package,
06:40of course, this needs to be considered and coordinated better.
06:45If we calculate, the cost of the water package is Rp4,191.
06:52If multiplied by the number of officers,
06:56the number of officers is Rp4,500.
07:00So, of course, if the original cost is not available,
07:05the burden of the BPHK will be around Rp18.860.000.000.
07:15If multiplied by Rupiah, it will be around Rp80.000.000.
07:18Now, this Rp80.000.000 is not a small cost,
07:23but it also needs a solution that needs to be prepared.
07:33What is the solution? Reduce the number of officers?
07:37Or is this burden burdened on the officers?
07:41I mean, the number of officers was reduced.
07:44The number of officers planned to be 50% was reduced to 2,250.
07:49Or is this cost burdened on the Hajj officers next year?
07:56For example, Rp80.000.000 divided by 200,000.
08:00If the regular cost is Rp230.000.000,
08:07the Hajj officers will be around Rp400.000.000.
08:11Now, is this burdened on the Hajj officers?
08:15Or maybe the BPHK discusses with the legislature,
08:22and in the end it is burdened by the government or the PBN.
08:27Yes, yes.
08:27That's it.
08:30Mr. Zaki, if there are several options that will be done by the government,
08:33even though we know that there is an effort to increase the budget from the PBN,
08:38even though the process is quite long,
08:41there must be a discussion with the DPR.
08:45But how about the presence of the Hajj officers themselves?
08:50How important is it if there is an option to reduce the number of Hajj officers?
08:55Because we know that the number of Hajj officers in Indonesia is increasing.
09:00Yes.
09:01Okay.
09:02So, if the number of Hajj officers is reduced
09:05because of the additional cost,
09:09I think this is not wise.
09:11Okay.
09:11And this will harm us.
09:14For example, the number of Hajj officers is still Rp4.500.000.
09:18Okay.
09:18But there is a burden on the budget of the BPHK.
09:21Then, maybe there is an opinion that
09:25in order to reduce the cost,
09:29okay, cut it by 50%.
09:30So, 50% of the officers' quota is not used.
09:35If this is the case, the solution is not accurate.
09:38Okay.
09:39Why is it not accurate?
09:40Because all the quotas given by the Saudi must be absorbed.
09:45It must be absorbed so that later when we ask for an additional quota,
09:49it is still considered.
09:51If the existing quota is not absorbed,
09:54then Saudi Arabia will probably reduce our quota again next year.
09:59So, if the solution is excepted,
10:02what is reduced is Saudi Arabia.
10:0450% of the officers' quota is reduced.
10:06But, is it possible?
10:07It's impossible.
10:09It's impossible.
10:11And if, for example,
10:13this is reduced because there is a fear of additional burden,
10:17I think it's better to negotiate with the legislative government, with the president.
10:23Okay.
10:23Don't let it be reduced because there is a burden on the budget that
10:28is neither big nor small.
10:31But later, the service will be reduced.
10:34Okay.
10:35This is what we are worried about.
10:36Because in the BPHK, there is a quota, there is a non-quota.
10:40There is a quota.
10:41If this non-quota is divided into two,
10:44there is a Saudi non-quota, there is an embarkation,
10:48there is a regional quota,
10:49there are also supervisors from the DPR RI,
10:53from the BPHK, and others.
10:55So, if I draw this 4,500,
10:57if this quota is around 2,100.
11:00Well, this non-quota is quite a lot.
11:03From Saudi, there are 710 officers.
11:06Well, this is from Saudi Arabia,
11:10including students,
11:11Middle East students.
11:13Middle East students who can speak Arabic
11:15and understand the field, as well as this Warsayudin,
11:18are included in the non-quota officers.
11:20This is around 710-700.
11:23Okay.
11:23The rest of this is from Kemenak.
11:27From Kemenak, from PEM, from high schools,
11:31up to supervisors are also included in the non-quota officers.
11:36So, in my opinion,
11:38for more affordable services,
11:40especially this is the first year
11:41that President Prabowo inaugurated the Hajj.
11:45That's about it.
11:46So, don't let the reduction of officers,
11:50the lack of services,
11:51the image of the government,
11:54especially President Prabowo,
11:56will be less good in society.
11:58Because if I look at it,
11:59this president is very attentive
12:02to the needs and also the aspirations of the Muslim community,
12:08which is Hajj.
12:09So, Mr. Prabowo, as much as he is attentive to the Muslim community
12:13in the implementation of the Hajj,
12:15he even made the BPH, the body of the implementation of the Hajj.
12:19Okay.
12:20This is also a form of attention from the president,
12:23the government,
12:24so that the management and implementation of the Hajj
12:27is better,
12:29especially this first year.
12:30So, don't let it happen.
12:34The reduction of officers,
12:38the concern for relief and services will be reduced.
12:42Mr. Zaki, but for BPH itself,
12:44it will be effective to serve in 2026.
12:47Then in the future,
12:48it will still be in the Ministry of Religious Affairs.
12:51Is it possible that the most ideal option
12:54is that we just ask for additional funding
12:56from the APBN
12:57to finance the Hajj officers?
12:59Even though you said earlier,
13:01it's quite risky too
13:02if the number is reduced like that, Mr. Zaki.
13:05Yes.
13:06So, this is not the first one.
13:10If we flashback to the past,
13:12in 2022,
13:14we also faced the issue of BPH.
13:17Okay.
13:17At that time, in 2022,
13:19BPH suddenly rose from Rp. 1,500
13:22to Rp. 5,500.
13:24It means that the increase is around 300-400%.
13:28Finally, at that time,
13:31it preceded the suspension of Hajj.
13:34Two months, three months preceded the suspension of Hajj.
13:37Suddenly, BPH rose.
13:39Well, the government must be burdened with Rp. 1.4 trillion
13:47for additional BPH.
13:50Because the budget for Hajj at that time,
13:53BPH was only budgeted Rp. 1,500.
13:56It suddenly rose in 2022.
13:58So, it became Rp. 5,500
14:02and the additional burden was Rp. 1.4 trillion.
14:07Well, finally, at that time,
14:09there were two options.
14:10To be burdened by the community
14:12or to be a candidate for Hajj
14:13or to be borne by the government.
14:16In the end, at that time,
14:18we saw Kemenang discuss,
14:20dialogue with the DPR RI
14:22and also maybe the president.
14:24Okay.
14:24And finally,
14:26Rp. 1.4 trillion was borne by the government,
14:31by Kemenang, in the end.
14:33So, in the end, during the Hajj period,
14:35it was no longer burdened with additional Rp. 1.4 trillion.
14:39Well, this is the second incident.
14:41Therefore, it became a note for Kemenang or BPH.
14:46Indeed, BPH has already explained
14:48that it will clearly hold the control of Hajj in 2026.
14:54Well, this year is a transition year
14:56between BPH and Kemenang.
14:58Yes.
14:58They continue to coordinate.
15:01So, what if we look at it like that?
15:03Is it an option for us to be fully borne by the government
15:07or will it be burdened by the candidates for Hajj?
15:10But hold on, Mr. Zaky's answer.
15:11Let's pause for a moment.
15:13And viewers,
15:13we will soon return to the next episode of Usai Pariwara.
15:25Usai Pariwara
15:33Yes, thank you for still joining us
15:34in Market Review, viewers.
15:36And next, we will present data for you
15:38related to the tasks of the officials.
15:40What is Hajj itself?
15:42Yes, you can watch the complete data on your television screen.
15:46Okay, the first is construction,
15:47then service and protection,
15:50and then control and coordination,
15:53operational implementation of Hajj worship in the country.
15:56Then there is also management,
15:57then the coordination of operational implementation of Hajj worship in Saudi Arabia.
16:04Then there is also management, financing,
16:06and special services.
16:09Those are some of the tasks of the Hajj officials.
16:13Then, the duty of the Hajj worshippers.
16:16Based on the Law No. 8 of 2019,
16:19there is the Central PPIH,
16:21then Saudi Arabia,
16:22embarkation,
16:23clotter, and non-clotter.
16:26Okay, those are some of the data that we have presented.
16:29We will continue our discussion with Mr. Zaki Zakarian Sari.
16:34He is the Secretary General of the Ampuri DPP.
16:36Okay, Mr. Zaki, we will continue our discussion.
16:39Well, the discussion seems to be very important,
16:42as it is very crucial for the presence of our Hajj worshipers.
16:47Based on the law of Hajj worshipers from year to year.
16:50So, what if there is an additional option from the government that is responsible
16:54based on the previous incident?
16:57Is that option also open in 2025?
17:00Or will it be burdened later?
17:02Maybe sharing, for example.
17:03Please.
17:05Yes, both for the solution of this masyar
17:10that is burdened to the Hajj officials in the future,
17:15in 2025,
17:16of course there will be some solutions.
17:20But I am sure that some of the options that have been considered by the government,
17:27I am sure that in the end this will be burdened to the APBN.
17:31Or will be borne by the government.
17:33And it seems that it is impossible to be burdened to the public
17:39if it is divided, it is only around Rp. 400,000.
17:42Rp. 400,000-Rp. 500,000.
17:44But, let's just imagine.
17:47Let's assume that in 2022, it will be Rp. 1.4 trillion.
17:52Rp. 1.4 trillion will be borne by the APBN.
17:54Moreover, this is only Rp. 80 million.
17:57If I count Rp. 18 million dollars, it is only Rp. 80 million.
18:03I think in the end it will be borne by the government.
18:06But I hope that there is no,
18:09if possible, there will be no reduction in the number of officers.
18:12So that the service is still acceptable, still good.
18:17And also if Saudi has to reduce the number of officers,
18:22reduce the number of officers,
18:24this may be an option taken from the regular quota.
18:29But, unfortunately, the quota will decrease again.
18:33There are actually several options.
18:35This is just an input.
18:37If we look at the number of officers,
18:41of the 4,500 officers, there are clotted and non-clotted.
18:45From the clotted, I think it can't be disturbed.
18:49Because 2,100 clotted are accompanying the army from Indonesia to Indonesia again.
18:55But maybe this non-clotted,
18:57there are around 2,400,
19:01700 in Saudi,
19:05and also in the Middle East,
19:08710.
19:09The rest, the rest are from Indonesia.
19:13Either from the embarkation,
19:15from the central Kemenak, from the Kemenak area,
19:18Kanuyeo,
19:19those are the orders.
19:22Or maybe the language is a bit dotted.
19:26Because, actually, the most experienced is
19:30the non-clotted officers who are in Saudi.
19:36And the non-clotted officers in Saudi,
19:38both the Muqimin and the Middle East students,
19:44they can speak Arabic, know the field,
19:48and they work quite effectively.
19:50Now, if it is possible to reduce it,
19:52this is probably the result of several instances.
19:58Those who become officers, maybe reduced,
20:00it may become an option if it has to be reduced.
20:03I think 4,500 should not be reduced.
20:05So that the services, supervision, and surveillance are still acceptable.
20:09And one more thing,
20:11don't let the 2025 Hajj surveillance
20:15embarrass our new president,
20:17who is very attentive to the Muslims.
20:21That's all.
20:21Now, let's talk about how to deal with the problem.
20:27Indeed, this will arise and be worried about
20:31from the reduction of the number of officers.
20:33Mr. Haji himself, or the officers of Hajj there,
20:37what do you hope for?
20:41First, we hope that the violation of Hajj in 2025,
20:47this 1446 Hijri,
20:49is still good and acceptable.
20:51Okay.
20:52So, the option to reduce the number of officers
20:57because there is an additional cost for the officers,
21:02I think it's not wise.
21:03Okay.
21:04It's not wise.
21:05Because don't let this service become a bet.
21:10And I also said earlier that we hope
21:14that in the first year of this new president,
21:18in the supervision of Hajj, it must be successful.
21:21Well, this is risky.
21:22If, for example, the number of Hajj officers must be reduced.
21:27Okay.
21:27Reduce it to half.
21:30Well, I can't imagine what it will be like
21:33if the officers are cluttered from 6 people.
21:36So, only 3 people hold one plane,
21:39control from the beginning to home.
21:42So, the PPIH officers are cluttered and non-cluttered.
21:46Well, the most that can be,
21:48if it is necessary to be reduced,
21:50it may be the non-cluttered ones.
21:52There are around 2,100 non-cluttered ones.
21:58Okay.
21:59Well, this is divided into one embarkation
22:03and another Saudi Arabian.
22:05So, the officers who are already in Saudi Arabia,
22:08who are not sent from Indonesia.
22:11So, from the Indonesian people there,
22:14Indonesian UN that is there,
22:16expatriates, and also students.
22:19Well, they are actually excellent.
22:21One, they understand Arabic,
22:22understand the field,
22:23and more enthusiastic.
22:26Well, there are other non-cluttered officers
22:28who are sent from Indonesia.
22:30From the UN, from the government,
22:32from the institution, from the UN,
22:34and also there are supervisors.
22:38These supervisors are from the BPK,
22:39from the DPR, RI, and so on.
22:41Maybe if it is to be reduced,
22:45the number of orders from the institution
22:49may be reduced.
22:51But if it is cluttered,
22:53or non-cluttered,
22:56the people there,
22:58I think it should not be reduced.
23:00Okay, finally, sir, how is it from Ampuri himself
23:02when this policy is being done
23:04by the Saudi government?
23:06Related to the implementation of Hajj
23:08which is done by Ampuri himself?
23:12Yes, the point is that Ampuri has prepared a lot
23:17for Hajj 2025 to be successful.
23:19And we also hope that the implementation of Hajj 2025
23:22will be successful in general.
23:25The first thing we have to prepare is
23:27to pay attention to the timeline.
23:29Pay attention to the timeline that has been scheduled
23:31by the Saudi government.
23:33Okay.
23:35The second, we also have to
23:37start this timeline
23:39from June, actually.
23:43And now there is one thing
23:45that we are waiting for,
23:47the decision of the government,
23:49in this 2-3 October,
23:51it must be
23:53the finalization of the contract
23:55with the service provider company.
23:57Okay.
23:59Starting the determination of the location
24:01in Masyair.
24:03Well, it must have started
24:05from 2-3 October.
24:07Well, until now, I'm sorry,
24:09I also encourage you to
24:11immediately,
24:13that we, the special Hajj organizer,
24:15are ready.
24:17The funds are ready, everything is ready.
24:19We just need to
24:22give a letter to us
24:24where we have to go.
24:26Because for the purchase of Masyair,
24:28this is through the government.
24:30So the funds are ready.
24:32Because we are worried that we will be late for the contract.
24:34Because if we are late for the contract,
24:36this is dangerous.
24:38Later, we will not get
24:40a good location.
24:42Because the Saudi government has been implementing
24:44first-come, first-served for three years.
24:46So whoever gets it quickly.
24:48Well, next,
24:51these timelines must be followed continuously
24:53until the end.
24:55Because now 2-3 October, for example,
24:57the contract will start.
24:59Don't be late.
25:01Then at the beginning of January,
25:03there will be a Hajj exhibition.
25:05Hajj conference.
25:07That includes MOUs there.
25:09After that,
25:11there will be
25:13the start of
25:15the visa application.
25:17According to this timeline,
25:19the deadline is February 19th.
25:21The deadline for the contract is February 14th.
25:23The visa will be issued on February 19th.
25:25It will start on April 29th.
25:27These timelines
25:29must be followed by everyone,
25:31be it Hajj organizers or the government.
25:35So don't be late for the contract.
25:37If possible, the Indonesian government
25:39has started to discuss the contract
25:41for the long term.
25:43Like other countries, especially Malaysia,
25:45the contract is three years ahead.
25:48So we have to be patient
25:50and be patient
25:52with the contract.
25:56So there are still some challenges
25:58that need to be tackled.
26:00I hope this can be a common solution
26:02to synergize
26:04the government,
26:06the Hajj organizers,
26:08the government or Ampuri
26:10and your friends.
26:12Mr. Zaki, thank you so much
26:14for your time and sharing
26:17with us today.
26:19I wish you good health.
26:21Thank you, Mr. Pres.
26:46Thank you, Mr. Pres.
27:16Thank you, Mr. Pres.