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00:00We were at half-time, if I'm not mistaken.
00:02He came up to me, sat down on the bench, put his hand like this and said,
00:05Vitelli, you're a great player.
00:07I said, yes.
00:11I want you like this.
00:13I had wings this game.
00:15I'm getting goosebumps now.
00:17To understand what this coach's approach was like.
00:21Welcome back to the Locker Room and to the podcast with a special guest, Vitelli Kutuzov.
00:33Hi Vitelli.
00:35It's a pleasure, Emilio.
00:37It's great to be here with Vitelli.
00:39We're very happy.
00:41The episodes and guests are increasing.
00:43And we're going to find spectacular stories like that of Vitelli.
00:45Because who doesn't know, everyone knows,
00:48Vitelli has a lot of quirks inside him.
00:50In his career.
00:52But I'd start with that Bate-Borisov-Milan.
00:54In which Gagliani,
00:56I read,
00:58there's a legend that at half-time
01:00Gagliani spoke to the Bate managers
01:02and said, we have to take that Kutuzov
01:04that seems good to me.
01:06It seems so.
01:08And what President Bate told me.
01:10Anyway, they were in the stands together.
01:12I don't think it was over yet,
01:14but he showed intentions.
01:16I think he was also
01:18a vector in Eastern Europe.
01:20Andrei came, then Caja.
01:22We were sure
01:24that in these places
01:26there could be players
01:28that could be interesting.
01:30But at the end of the game,
01:32they came to tell you how it went.
01:34Yes, President Bate came and said,
01:36Vitelli, there's this possibility.
01:38What do you think?
01:40I said, what do you think?
01:42I'll prepare my suitcase.
01:45There's an opportunity
01:47to change the course
01:49and the approach.
01:51To improve.
01:53To work with better coaches
01:55and better players.
01:57To try to create
01:59something much better
02:01than what Gagliani has.
02:03But there were other teams
02:05that wanted you.
02:07It's like Fiorentina in these times.
02:09Primojohn, who was at Namo Moscow
02:11six months before,
02:13signed a contract with us.
02:15But I didn't like
02:17what the president said.
02:19I said, let's go home.
02:21Did you expect that?
02:23Let's put it in context.
02:25In 2001-2002,
02:27you arrived at that game
02:29and said, wow,
02:31I'm playing in front
02:33of Milan's fans.
02:35Did you feel that?
02:37Or was it totally unexpected?
02:39It was a bit of a surprise.
02:42It was a team
02:44that was struggling
02:46and was trying to create
02:48something big.
02:50You went to the Cups
02:52and played one game.
02:54It was a difficult year
02:56for us.
02:58In the first year,
03:00we were able to lose
03:02and not move forward.
03:04This year, we did well.
03:06I was playing under-21.
03:08I had a lot of games.
03:11I also played a bit of international football.
03:13When you play against Milan,
03:15there's a line that says
03:17that after this line
03:19there can be something.
03:21What you don't know.
03:23For me, it was this line
03:25that changed my life.
03:27Five or six months ago,
03:29I saw this game for the first and last time.
03:31Now I see it
03:33a bit differently.
03:35That guy
03:37kept the ball, protected it,
03:39and played at the right time.
03:41It was a good game.
03:43I don't think it was a great game
03:45because he couldn't even play.
03:47He was still young
03:49and hadn't matured physically.
03:51I wanted to work on that.
03:53But he showed he had the power
03:55and the quality
03:57to create something big.
03:59Who do you remember
04:01when you played against Milan?
04:03Maybe a defender
04:05or something that impressed you
04:08It's difficult
04:10because I didn't see
04:12Milan's organisation.
04:14When I came here,
04:16I was shocked.
04:18I had times at Milan
04:20where I improved a lot.
04:22I worked on it.
04:24I tried to improve
04:26both on and off the pitch.
04:28It's all that allows you
04:30to understand where you are.
04:32From the start,
04:34you're under stress and shock.
04:36It's difficult to play
04:38when you're like that.
04:40When you learn the language
04:42and culture,
04:44I think I spoke Italian
04:46in five or six months,
04:48you have the desire
04:50to do everything.
04:52I had Maldini as an example
04:54every day.
04:56At the time,
04:58he was just starting
05:00to conquer the world.
05:02He was the one
05:05who helped me
05:07set up my computer
05:09and put it on the internet.
05:11No one knows how to do it here.
05:13You go to Paolo
05:15and you say,
05:17can I ask you a favour?
05:19I need to see pages
05:21on the internet.
05:23He said,
05:25come after lunch
05:27and we'll try it.
05:29We had lunch
05:31and I went to his room.
05:33We lost two or three hours
05:35until the next training session
05:37in the afternoon.
05:39We got ready
05:41but he didn't rest for a minute.
05:43Neither did I.
05:45We went out on the pitch
05:47and I said,
05:49I don't know if I should rest.
05:51I'm a professional.
05:53That's how he won a player.
05:55He's a player for Milan
05:57and for him
05:59because he felt he was
06:02a new player
06:04who had to play the same music.
06:06That's how he won a player.
06:08I also won
06:10the beauty of being a person
06:12who is open,
06:14honest
06:16and free.
06:18If I need help,
06:20I'll help.
06:22I was amazed.
06:24Do you remember
06:26any other teammates?
06:28They were all available.
06:31I don't want to divide them.
06:33He was an example
06:35because he's a captain
06:37and a national captain.
06:39I lived in Galarate
06:41and there were a lot of players
06:43so if I needed help
06:45I could turn to him.
06:47José Chamont was there
06:49and he saw his family.
06:51He never smiled.
06:53He was always available
06:55if I needed help
06:57because you don't know
06:59how to speak Italian.
07:01For example,
07:03at the table I said
07:05Pamidoro
07:07and Andrea Pirlo
07:09was laughing.
07:11I speak Italian
07:13and Russian
07:15and I'm a guy like that.
07:17Pamidoro in Italian
07:19is a bit heavy
07:21but in Russian
07:23you say Pamidoro
07:25and you say Pomodoro.
07:28I wasn't afraid of that
07:30and it helped me
07:32to live faster
07:34than an Italian
07:36so I could play faster
07:38than a real player.
07:40The podcast is called
07:42Unlock Your Room
07:44so let's try to enter
07:46the dressing rooms.
07:48Do you remember
07:50if there were any rules
07:52or fines
07:54or if there were
07:56any rules?
07:58No, but it was a serious environment
08:00with a lot of work
08:02and a few jokes.
08:04Yes,
08:06maybe a few
08:08but not too much.
08:10I saw it that way
08:12because
08:14I went straight to work
08:16and I worked
08:18with Gigi Balestra
08:20and I want to congratulate him
08:22because he was very important to me.
08:25I finished training
08:27and I worked with him
08:29for half an hour or an hour
08:31on technique and speed
08:33and I really liked him.
08:35He's a coach
08:37who knows how to run in Italy
08:39and now he's at a certain age
08:41that we have to respect
08:43and maybe he also worked
08:45for Milan TV
08:47for a while.
08:49I had my commitments
08:51so it was difficult
08:53to work with him
08:55because I was looking for something
08:57but it was difficult
08:59because I was on the road.
09:01Did you respond?
09:03Let's say with respect
09:05because I respected them too.
09:07I worked with them
09:09with a bit of difficulty
09:11and I managed to beat my team
09:13in Belarus
09:15even though they were older than me
09:17because I was older
09:19and they were 78 or 79.
09:22I won
09:24but maybe 2-1
09:26with a goal at the end of the game.
09:28I already knew them
09:30a bit
09:32and their youth
09:34of this team.
09:36Andrea liked the PlayStation
09:38and I liked it too
09:40and maybe once we played together
09:42he made me realise
09:44that I had to be careful
09:46because my youth
09:48with video games
09:50is a quality.
09:52I don't know who was stronger
09:54but I don't even remember
09:56who won that match.
09:58Before we move on
10:00let's remember
10:02that you scored
10:04a lot of goals
10:06when you were young.
10:08Let's close that chapter
10:10by remembering
10:12that you were a real star.
10:14Let's say
10:17I played for all of our national teams
10:19under-15, under-16
10:21almost all of them
10:23and I was the captain
10:25and I was a promising youngster
10:27and I passed
10:29this team
10:31a team that went up to Serie A
10:33and the first season with me
10:35we were in Serie A
10:37and came in third
10:39and it was my debut.
10:41Over the years I improved
10:43and I played for Inter 21
10:46and it was my space
10:48and I played well
10:50and it was an important team
10:52with some well-known names.
10:54I didn't score a lot
10:56but I scored
10:58around 15 goals
11:00during the season.
11:02Did your family support you
11:04in your career?
11:06When I moved to Milan?
11:08Even when you were young
11:10did they support you?
11:12My mum and dad
11:14lived in another village
11:16outside my home
11:18and to make it clear
11:20I was 14.
11:22I was 14 and I cooked by myself.
11:26We had an olympic college
11:28as we called it
11:30where I played for this team
11:32and this team went through
11:34the spring break
11:36and I was trying to
11:38get something out of it
11:40as a youngster
11:43so I had to eat
11:45and study
11:47and when the break was over
11:49I started living by myself
11:51in my house
11:53whereas the college
11:55had a meeting
11:57with other girls
11:59and other sports activities
12:01but there you measure
12:03your life on your own
12:05and how it was
12:07and you're right
12:09and you make mistakes
12:11I think he was always
12:13a good boy
12:15in our small context
12:17and as I said before
12:19I went to Moscow
12:21to the Dynamo office
12:23and there were teams
12:25I wanted to sign
12:27and it depends how much it costs
12:29and why.
12:31I think the break
12:33was the reason
12:35for my transfer.
12:37Maybe you don't know
12:40but Andriy Shevchenko
12:42also mentioned your name
12:44to Dynamo Kyiv
12:46before coming to Milan
12:48I don't think he did
12:50but Rizzo did
12:52he worked for Milan
12:54and I think he was
12:56the person
12:58who could
13:00check Dynamo Kyiv
13:02and maybe he sent
13:04some scouts
13:06who also worked
13:08for Milan
13:10and I think
13:12that's the truth
13:14and then
13:16we can't even know
13:18what happened
13:20between the people
13:22we can only imagine
13:24what could have happened
13:26I think
13:28something like that
13:30could have happened
13:32Do you remember
13:34the debut with Milan
13:37did you feel it?
13:39What did the coach say?
13:41Were you ready?
13:43I was ready
13:45the whole season
13:47there were only 18 players
13:49and maybe 4 or 5
13:51were sent to the stands
13:53Marco Simone was there
13:55maybe Umit
13:57sometimes Umit was there
13:59almost always
14:01I was always ready
14:03I toured all of Italy
14:05I toured a few Cups
14:07but
14:09I was always ready
14:11and having always been ready
14:13I missed this day
14:15as I lived it
14:17I was the only one left
14:19because when I played I was surprised
14:21I didn't expect it
14:23you don't expect it
14:25you prepare normally
14:27and then you go in
14:29I was more emotional
14:31maybe
14:34I played a game with Roma
14:36in 20 minutes
14:38you scored 3 goals
14:40instead of Shevchenko
14:42you came back
14:44in 12 minutes
14:46I played 20 minutes
14:48I kept the ball
14:50even if I was tired
14:52because it's normal
14:54emotions allow you
14:56to spend more
14:58on some episodes
15:00but I think I played well
15:03he had quality
15:05maybe not the quality
15:07that allows you
15:09to continue
15:11to show a football
15:13on a global level
15:15but a quality
15:17that allows you
15:19to gain some space
15:21here in Italy
15:23some team
15:25some environment
15:27that suits you
15:29How was Ancelotti for you?
15:31He wants to be
15:33everyone's father
15:35he's open to everyone
15:37he tries to treat
15:39everyone equally
15:41he has some kids
15:43that he talks to
15:45I talked to him a few times
15:47we sat together
15:49he tries to be available
15:51he gives you support
15:53he makes you live
15:55calmly
15:57he explains why you don't play
16:00I told him to work
16:02don't worry
16:04I tried to work
16:06I'm a soldier
16:08in football
16:10Did he have any rituals?
16:12Did he talk
16:14about emotions
16:16technique
16:18tactics?
16:20In my past
16:22because I had great coaches
16:24he didn't talk about
16:26technique
16:28he tried to find
16:30a feeling
16:32with all the players
16:34a tight feeling
16:36to be available
16:38to everyone
16:40I think that's his strength
16:42How did you see Sheva?
16:44As a normal teammate?
16:46Shevchenko is now
16:48a star
16:50I already had a star
16:52I didn't even try to intervene
16:54I was on my own
16:57maybe he had more
16:59relationships with his family
17:01his parents
17:03who operated on his father
17:05he knew his sister
17:07he went to her house
17:09to meet her
17:11he had a very nice relationship
17:13they helped you integrate?
17:15yes
17:17let's say a bit of a family
17:19you integrate not personally
17:21but as a family
17:23he often didn't show up
17:25that was the truth
17:27he had his commitments
17:29maybe my wife at the time
17:31could call his sister
17:33they agreed
17:35we went to meet
17:37because he had his family here
17:39his sister with her husband
17:41I think they were good people
17:43honest people
17:45You said you were shocked
17:47when you arrived at Milan
17:49what shocked you?
17:51Many things
17:54when I made the first visit
17:56to sign the contract
17:58I was at Jean-Pierre Messermann
18:00he was the last one
18:02who had to sign all the documents
18:04there are documents
18:06I am healthy
18:08he checked
18:10he showed me two things
18:12I was shocked
18:14I was talking about kinesiology
18:16he found out I had teeth
18:18that were a bit out
18:20that allow me to work worse
18:23he showed me this physically
18:25on the bed
18:27the president of BATA was there
18:29with his mouth open
18:31he said he was a healthy guy
18:33we can confirm
18:35the contract
18:37but let's send a dentist
18:39immediately
18:41the first training he did with me
18:43we had some difficulties
18:45physically
18:47intensity
18:49you are right
18:51I could do
18:53three training sessions in a row
18:55he opened my mouth
18:57I could do
18:59everything I wanted
19:01he gave me
19:03absolute freedom
19:05I didn't feel
19:07any more fatigue
19:09unfortunately
19:11at the time
19:13there were these professionals
19:15I don't know how they live in Milan
19:17but at the time
19:20it was a surprise
19:22to be a BATA manager
19:24the BATA manager
19:26the legend says
19:28he came back to Belarus
19:30and removed all the dentist
19:32they came back
19:34and asked to come here
19:36with the coach
19:38they came to do a stage
19:40to understand how to live
19:42to approach this level
19:44of preparation
19:46he created a very important BATA
19:48how was your childhood
19:50in Belarus?
19:52the Belarusian
19:54from the end of the last century
19:56the independence of the Soviet Union
19:58then the tragedy of Chernobyl
20:00I don't know if you remember
20:02how you lived it
20:04what was your childhood like?
20:06I was born in the Soviet Union
20:08I was a boy who had
20:10a certificate of birth
20:12in the Soviet Union
20:14I saw how the country fell
20:17I think it was respected in the world
20:19it was a big country
20:21I saw how easy it was to fall
20:23I saw what happened after
20:25I lived well
20:27I think thanks to my parents
20:29my parents were separated
20:31but my mother tried
20:33to give me some freedom
20:35I used this freedom
20:37to do
20:39something I like
20:43this freedom gave me the possibility
20:45to dedicate myself to football for a long time
20:47and choose what I wanted to do in my life
20:49maybe I didn't have
20:51I don't know what
20:53in my book
20:55there is a chapter
20:57when I broke my football shoes
20:59and I didn't have shoes
21:01my mother
21:03as soon as she bought
21:05you usually buy those that are a little cheaper
21:07I had a big sister
21:09I took my sister's shoes
21:11I put these on
21:14and then I presented them
21:16and they laughed
21:18I said this is a woman's shoe
21:20I scored two goals
21:22let's see if it's a woman's shoe
21:24they finish too soon
21:26and she laughed and finished right after the two goals
21:28but I was lucky
21:30to have a coach who helped me
21:32and my space was there
21:34by the way
21:36I was thinking
21:38even if you were already a talent in your country
21:40you always need that coach
21:42so you had this figure
21:44that understood your talent
21:46not only one
21:48apart from my country
21:50where I had this coach
21:52who still coaches
21:54I think he was a guy
21:56who plays better than everyone
21:58a guy who
22:00shows himself
22:02I dribbled everyone
22:04I had a dribbling
22:06from birth
22:08maybe because
22:11my house had trees
22:13apart from dribbling opponents
22:15I had to dribble trees
22:17there was a park
22:19with a lot of apples
22:21we didn't have
22:23the other field
22:25so I dribbled everyone
22:27when you came back home
22:29your mom was shouting
22:31come back home
22:33I was stealing a net
22:35from the sports field
22:37of my country
22:40there is still this net
22:42in my mom's house
22:44because I wanted a net
22:46I had one
22:48who was as crazy as me
22:50with this net
22:52I played outside the city
22:54in the woods
22:56two of us
22:58we had a team
23:00we played in the woods
23:02we put the net on a door
23:04and we played there
23:06I had the other coach
23:08in this olympic school
23:10when new shoes arrived
23:12already at the time
23:14football shoes
23:16first Intravital
23:18then all the others
23:20I was annoyed
23:22because I had this presumption
23:24that I was out of the others
23:26but I took them
23:28I didn't have the other
23:30I could take shoes
23:32that I really liked
23:34that I could try
23:37I didn't respect the girls
23:39because I was one of the group
23:41but I understood something
23:43I said
23:45I try to stimulate
23:47I try to give everything
23:49because he responds
23:51he responds with work
23:53with availability
23:55I don't think he was stupid
23:57if he responds like that
23:59it means that I give something
24:01Was there a coach
24:03that you had to answer
24:05Do you know who I don't have?
24:07With Sporting Lisbon
24:09I used to play chess with the coach
24:11the only team that played chess
24:13Laszlo Balony
24:15at dinner
24:17when we go to the retreat
24:19he found out that I play
24:21I told him
24:23let's stay there
24:25after dinner
24:27let's play there
24:29I used to play chess with him
24:31Speaking of Sporting Lisbon
24:34It's funny
24:36because many people
24:38are young
24:40and they don't know
24:42what Sporting Lisbon was
24:44I read at home
24:46the names of that attack
24:48Vitali Kutuzov
24:50Quaresma
24:52Joao Pinto
24:54Jardel
24:56and Cristiano Ronaldo
24:58You played with Cristiano Ronaldo
25:00and also in the retreat
25:02I was a bit older
25:04I had more experience
25:06than him
25:08I had experience in Milan
25:10he was a bit mature
25:12he just started
25:14at Sporting
25:16for him it was
25:18like two years ago
25:20in Milan
25:22I saw that he had
25:24this difficulty
25:26he had more emotions
25:28when emotions
25:31I tried to calm him down
25:33I tried to be close
25:35to him
25:37and like in the retreat
25:39I had a room for each of us
25:41and outside
25:43when we go to the retreat
25:45it's hard to play outside
25:47because almost all the teams
25:49are close to Lisbon
25:51he went to the retreat
25:53with a Belarusian
25:55who fell from the sky
25:57in Lisbon
25:59You could see he was already strong
26:01Yes, physically strong
26:03you can't imagine a guy
26:05who can jump from Primavera
26:07even if he has the strength
26:09to win all the golden balls
26:11but he jumped
26:13he was physically strong
26:15he dribbled a lot
26:17like me
26:19I like dribbling
26:21I was already blind
26:23and I thought
26:25I don't have to dribble
26:28you have to adapt
26:30if you need to
26:32because you risk
26:34when you don't need to
26:36he risked a lot
26:38he lost a lot of balls
26:40he was beaten by old guys
26:42but I liked it
26:44because I did the same thing
26:46if you know how to dribble
26:48you will find the right balance
26:50when you have to
26:52when you don't
26:54you dribble when you feel
26:5780-90%
26:59otherwise it's not worth to risk
27:0160-70%
27:03now you dribble a little
27:05many people
27:07like Ancelotti
27:09have been influenced
27:11by Cristiano Ronaldo
27:13his dedication
27:15his recovery
27:17did he already have this
27:19in his room
27:21or was he still
27:23a young Cristiano Ronaldo?
27:25it's not that he did extreme things
27:27I also like to work
27:29I learned here in Milan
27:31and I
27:33for me it was normal
27:35he stopped
27:37after training
27:39he liked gym a lot
27:41this gym
27:43for me it's not important
27:45even if I did a lot
27:47some small details
27:49he liked his body
27:51he wanted to improve his body
27:54he will always remember you
27:56because he scored his first goal
27:58after you scored
28:00same game
28:02so he will remember you
28:04for the rest of his life
28:06yes
28:08I don't think it was
28:10the most important thing for him
28:12but we lived
28:14together
28:16some emotions
28:18our debut together
28:20we played against Inter
28:22these emotions
28:24that you live
28:26in games like this
28:28he was lucky
28:30to score in front of him
28:32and he scored
28:34and I scored
28:36against Asiens
28:38with Partizan
28:40Italy, Avellino
28:42Samp
28:44Parma, Pisa
28:46Bari
28:48what do you remember
28:51about Zeman
28:53a special coach
28:55that we never talked about
28:57because no one
28:59told us anything
29:01about him
29:03why?
29:05because no one
29:07talked about him
29:09he was the first coach
29:11with whom I died
29:13on the foot
29:15I am out
29:17of any
29:19human thought
29:21after Lisbon
29:23I had a big break
29:25because
29:27they finished a bit earlier
29:29here we started a bit later
29:31there is a month of break
29:33so I was out for miles
29:35without a ball
29:37I started to feel pain
29:39pain everywhere
29:41light pain
29:43but before
29:45I went to Avellino
29:48I worked with Branchini Associati
29:50and they asked me
29:52are you afraid of Zeman?
29:54I said I have never been afraid
29:56in my life
29:58but I understood
30:00what they were thinking
30:02and I discovered him
30:04but
30:06with all the difficulties
30:08I prepared my suitcase twice
30:10to go to the training camp
30:12too tired?
30:14also psychologically
30:17but he doesn't talk
30:19he is always out
30:21do you have personal difficulties?
30:23a new team
30:25you don't know anyone
30:27physical difficulties
30:29psychological difficulties
30:31you can't face anyone
30:33what am I doing here?
30:35a month
30:37the suitcase with the ball
30:39was not open
30:41we are retired
30:43but he is a player
30:4515 goals
30:47you scored that year
30:49we were retired
30:51but I scored on Sunday
30:55you came from
30:57Ancelotti
30:59who was a dad
31:01then the coach you played with
31:03so you had a good relationship
31:05and you find the opposite
31:07the relationship with everyone is the same
31:09I knew he spoke Russian
31:11not even a word
31:14we said
31:16Sunday
31:18he said
31:20guys
31:22I asked him to score
31:24he said Sunday
31:26but Sunday he is in the stands with me
31:28in the stands?
31:30he made me play
31:32but he made me understand
31:34that if someone doesn't show
31:36that he is good
31:38on Sunday he goes to the stands
31:40I am curious
31:42both at Pisa and at Parma
31:44I don't know
31:46if you want to say something
31:48about Ventura
31:50because in Italy
31:52you talked a lot
31:54about the World Cup qualification
31:56so Ventura
31:58is on my coach's list
32:00among the top
32:02he has his strengths
32:04and weaknesses
32:06I know him well
32:08when he has
32:11a hard time
32:13I am lucky
32:15because
32:17he started
32:19with Ancelotti
32:21Fatic Tirin
32:23before him
32:25when he was young
32:27he was a great coach
32:29with language difficulties
32:31but he was a great coach
32:33then Ancelotti
32:35then Zdeněk Zeman
32:37Laszlo Balony in Lisbon
32:39then Geno Walter Novelino
32:41then Piolli at Parma
32:43Ragnieri at Parma
32:45he intervened
32:47he made me cry
32:49I also cry for Morfeo
32:51he is almost incredible
32:53he is a method
32:55he is a communication
32:57he is a hard player
32:59he knows how to find
33:01how to get
33:03into the heart
33:05he is a talent
33:08he had Guidolin
33:10then
33:12Ventura
33:14then Antonio Conte
33:16then
33:20Gigi Cari
33:22I think
33:24all these people
33:26are
33:28a golden background
33:30of Italian coaches
33:32Parma was such a setback
33:34Ragnieri intervened
33:36I don't know how
33:38Boudon scored
33:40Igor Boudon
33:42I don't know
33:4412-15
33:46the team started to win
33:48and we saved
33:50Why?
33:52How did you feel?
33:54I don't know
33:56Did you feel Ragnieri's magic?
33:58Like Leicester?
34:00Yes
34:02Maybe much harder than Leicester
34:05this season
34:07I'll give you an example
34:09Braga against Coppa Uefa
34:11he is close to me
34:13I had achilles tendon
34:15that was inflamed
34:17maybe the hardest year of my career
34:19I started to train again
34:21inflammation
34:23tendon like this
34:25I started again
34:27maybe on hard pitches
34:29I don't know why
34:31maybe I ruined it with Zeman
34:34With this problem
34:36he asked me to play with Braga
34:38we were 0-0
34:40if I'm not mistaken
34:42he sat next to me
34:44he put his hand like this
34:46and asked me if I was a great player
34:48I said yes
34:50and he said yes
34:52I said yes
34:54I wanted this
34:56I had achilles tendon
34:58I still get chills
35:00to understand
35:02this coach
35:04in my 20%
35:06I left 25%
35:08I didn't have more
35:10but I found a place
35:12where I can give more than 20%
35:14I think
35:16everyone in this team
35:18found this place
35:20where to give more than 20%
35:22because we are different
35:24different mentality
35:26age
35:28physical age
35:31it's a job
35:33he did in a short time
35:35he built this team
35:37that can
35:39I don't think
35:41it's a great team
35:43because he had stronger teams
35:45but
35:47this little thing
35:49to bring everyone together
35:51to save the team
35:53and Conte was the opposite
35:55he's a great worker
35:57more on tactics
35:59I think
36:01his bravery
36:03of
36:05the time
36:07to have a great coach
36:09and take something
36:11from everyone
36:13and try to transmit
36:15in his vision
36:17of the coach
36:19I think
36:21a coach that has a little bit of Ancelotti
36:23from what I say
36:25because he communicates with everyone
36:28a little bit from Zeman
36:30because he brought Veltrone
36:32that is missing now
36:34I had a great relationship with him
36:36and I worked a lot with him
36:38maybe another coach
36:40that scared me
36:42after Zeman
36:44work philosophy
36:46Ventura followed him a lot
36:48when he took me
36:50in Pisa
36:52because in Bari
36:54I needed someone
36:56like Parma
36:58because I did well in Pisa
37:00because he did
37:02more or less the same things
37:04that Ventura did
37:06he took his ideas
37:08and since Ventura had
37:10something
37:12he was able to take this
37:14and adapt his vision
37:16of football
37:18and in this way
37:20he needed someone that did this job
37:22that Ventura did well
37:25the environment that was created
37:27by the coach
37:29was very tough
37:31very hard
37:33I had Jean-Pierre Veltrone
37:35I think he was important
37:37in the environment
37:39and I was afraid
37:41to go and train
37:43because I didn't know
37:45if I would make it
37:47to the end
37:49to understand
37:51the rhythm
37:53because I knew how to do
37:55what I needed
37:57I came from Parma
37:59they made me work
38:01after Zeman
38:03who killed me
38:05but he made me work a lot
38:07he made me debut
38:09with Brescia
38:11let's play Brescia, Serie B
38:13he made me come in
38:15for 20 minutes
38:17I came in
38:19but the feeling was
38:22trains passing
38:24so slow
38:26so...
38:28with difficulty
38:30I get the ball
38:32somehow I manage to push
38:34but at the end I feel
38:36what's happening
38:38I'm out of place
38:40tired like
38:42you get tired
38:44after two games
38:46at the end
38:48next week I go to Veltrone
38:51but this game
38:53how do I do?
38:55I'm worried
38:57I feel like
38:59I'm out of place
39:01I can't give my contribution
39:03how can I do it?
39:05you work
39:07ok I work
39:09next week
39:11Ciccio Caputo
39:13Ciccio Caputo
39:15who had to play
39:17I just arrived
39:19I had a minor injury
39:21I don't know
39:23but the last one
39:25you can't play
39:27my debut
39:29I was in Bari for 2-3 weeks
39:31I get the ball
39:33I stop
39:35I start and there's no one
39:37I come in
39:391-0
39:41maybe we were wrong
39:43I scored 10 in the first half
39:45after this game
39:48I said
39:50this work
39:52I did
39:54I needed
39:56my body
39:58my muscles
40:00to adapt
40:02this rhythm
40:04this fluidity
40:06because I work hard
40:08and now I can do
40:10what I can
40:12the last goal
40:14in your career
40:16take the ball
40:18jump
40:20and score
40:22you closed the circle
40:24maybe
40:26even if I didn't think
40:28I would close
40:30but
40:32it was a good game
40:34we had fun
40:36this year
40:38I said
40:400-0 in the first half
40:42but Milan won
40:45luckily we don't win
40:47let's show you the pyramid
40:49you are the only
40:51Belarusian
40:53who played in Milan
40:55we tried
40:57to rebuild
40:59all the other nations
41:01that had only one element
41:03in Milan
41:05we took
41:07too old players
41:09from the 40s
41:11this is the pyramid
41:13from the 4th to the 1st level
41:15we also took
41:17the more common nations
41:19Australia
41:21Japan
41:23Chile
41:25Morocco
41:27we left 10 more
41:29easy
41:31Georgia
41:33with Kaká Káláz
41:394th place
41:42Guinea
41:44Kevin Constant
41:56Kazakhstan
41:58Alexander Merkel
42:01Kazakhstan
42:05Merkel
42:07played little in Milan
42:09he was young
42:114th place
42:13Montenegro
42:15Dejan Savicevic
42:19this is a heavy name
42:213rd place
42:25Mali
42:27Bacalhé Traoré
42:29I think you were too optimistic
42:31about the next players
42:33exactly
42:35but this is the game
42:37Traoré 3rd place
42:39Paraguay
42:41Gustavo Gómez
42:454th place
42:474 more to go
42:49Sierra Leone
42:51Rodney Strasser
42:553rd place
42:58let's do an exchange
43:00with Káláz
43:06Slovakia
43:08Juraj Kučka
43:14Káláz could go up
43:16Kučka 2nd place
43:20Slovenia
43:22Walter Birsa
43:24Káláz should be here
43:28Birsa 2nd place
43:30Ukraine
43:32Andriy Shevchenko
43:34Káláz could have been 2nd
43:36Káláz would have been 2nd
43:38but this is the game
43:40and we didn't know
43:44while
43:46when you don't know
43:48try to be more calm
43:51we have to put the fish
43:53we have
43:55our final
43:57but while
43:59I prepare the final
44:01if you want to tell us
44:03what have you done
44:05since you quit
44:07you played hockey
44:09in Porta
44:11now I have created
44:13a C-RAM system
44:15for football events
44:17a small IT company
44:19where fans can have more fun
44:21what's the name?
44:23Sportecs Club
44:25fans can buy a player
44:27your audience
44:29can buy a player
44:31resell
44:33increase the value of the club
44:35make the fans have fun
44:37tokenize
44:39it's a platform
44:41where you can manage
44:43everything you need
44:45ticket sales
44:48direct streaming
44:504K
44:52you need to manage
44:54the TV rights
44:56sell your subscription
44:58any type
45:00you can find
45:02a subscription
45:04that is necessary
45:06to increase the volume
45:08and make people earn
45:10then I wrote a book
45:12a book that
45:14is coming out soon
45:16we gave you 4
45:18choose one
45:20read it and answer
45:22let's try
45:24when was the last time
45:26you cried?
45:28cry
45:30why did you cry?
45:36when I read my book
45:38you were moved
45:40yes
45:42I cried when
45:45when you create a book
45:47you read
45:53can you express 3 wishes?
45:55smile
45:57health
45:59smile, happiness and health
46:01of all the people I love
46:03second thing
46:05maybe one day
46:07own a Serie A team
46:09and create something important
46:11and do
46:14what I am creating
46:16Sport X Club
46:18with the philosophy of another era
46:20of football
46:22football can be different
46:24football can be
46:26not only a Sunday match
46:28but something more
46:30and realize everything I have in mind
46:32and I think that what I am doing
46:34makes the whole world have fun
46:36you see
46:38that was the philosophy
46:40from the beginning
46:42I want to make all the fans in the world happier