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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Maryam from Manaj Ki Top Stories.
00:17In cricket, the Indian team has refused to come to Pakistan for the Champions Trophy.
00:22These matches can take place at any third venue under the hybrid model.
00:26We will talk about this in the first part of the program.
00:28Then we will talk about the political game and the grand alliance.
00:31Is the country's politics hitting a plateau right now?
00:35We will see that there will be difficulties for the government.
00:38We will talk about this in the second part of the program.
00:40After this, Punjab is in the midst of a smog.
00:42But the government here, the bureaucracy here is out of the country at the moment.
00:47In Switzerland, we saw that the leadership of this country is present in Punjab.
00:52We will talk about this in the last part of the program.
00:55But let's start with good news.
00:57Pakistan's cricket has a bittersweet day today.
00:59The good news is that after 22 years, Pakistan has defeated the Australian team on the Australian soil.
01:06And they have made this series on their own.
01:09It doesn't seem like the Pakistani team that was struggling a few weeks ago.
01:13It seems like they have sent some other team or have given up a new spirit.
01:17On the other hand, where this is good news, the political situation in cricket is getting worse.
01:23India has refused to send its team for the Champions Trophy.
01:28Pakistan's government also seems to have decided to give a tough answer this time.
01:34The ICC has deliberately warned the PCB on the decision not to come to Pakistan in the Indian Champions Trophy.
01:40On which the government of Pakistan has decided to give a full answer to India.
01:44According to the sources, Pakistan will remain firm on its position regarding the Champions Trophy.
01:48And will go to a dangerous extent against the hybrid model.
01:51According to the PCB sources, the ICC will be forced to hold the entire Champions Trophy event in Pakistan.
01:57According to the sources, the government has taken a tough stance that if India refuses to participate in the Champions Trophy,
02:02then Pakistan will never play a match with them again.
02:06We will also tell you why it has refused and in what words it has refused.
02:11According to Indian media reports, the Indian board says that the Indian team will not go to Pakistan.
02:16And this is our final decision that we have written to Pakistan.
02:20The BCCI has warned the PCB and other stakeholders that they want to play matches at neutral venues.
02:27According to Crick Info, the ICC Champions Trophy is expected to be held under the hybrid model in 2025.
02:32After the ICC One Day World Cup 1996 and 2008, Pakistan has won the Champions Trophy for the first time in a long time.
02:41But this decision to only boycott the team is limited to cricket.
02:47Because for other sports, the Indian team has been coming to Pakistan.
02:52For example, the Indian team has participated in the Davis Cup in 2024.
02:58This team came for the Davis Cup after 59 years.
03:04This means that if you want to boycott this team, then it is limited to cricket.
03:09Maybe because politics is associated with cricket.
03:11We will try to understand this.
03:13India's blind cricket team is also coming to Pakistan for the 2020 World Cup.
03:20Apart from this, we have seen that Indian players are coming to Pakistan for South Asian Cross-Country Athletics.
03:27So this restriction is only for cricket.
03:31What is the politics behind this? Will this matter go to the point of no return?
03:35Can there be a middle way?
03:37Or does the PCB not have an option?
03:39These are the questions that we try to answer.
03:42Mr. Shahid Hashmi is a special correspondent.
03:44He covers sports from the side of Pakistan.
03:46We will talk to him.
03:48Vikrat Gupta is an Indian journalist.
03:50He also covers Indian sports.
03:52But overall, we keep taking comments from him.
03:56Regarding the ties of cricket.
03:58Thank you both very much.
03:59Mr. Shahid, let's start with you.
04:01How disappointing is this?
04:04Do you think that PCB means business this time?
04:08And it is going to be a strict attitude.
04:10Will there be no further delay in this matter?
04:13Will it be conveyed to the ICC?
04:15And can there be a situation of not playing matches with India?
04:19Absolutely, Maria.
04:21The information that the Pakistan Cricket Board has received from the ICC that India has refused.
04:28We will not send our team to the Champions Trophy.
04:30The official document has been sent to the Government of Pakistan.
04:36Now the Pakistan Cricket Board will take instructions from them.
04:39And it is also possible that Pakistan will be completely pulled out of the Champions Trophy.
04:44There will be financial implications.
04:46But in the Member Participation Agreement, it is written that if the government does not allow.
04:51As has always happened with India.
04:53That India does not get permission from New Delhi.
04:56So they have a valid reason.
04:58And they also have an official document.
05:01The Pakistan Cricket Board has received official information from the ICC.
05:07That the BCCI has refused.
05:09That our government is not giving us permission to participate in the Champions Trophy.
05:13To go to Pakistan.
05:14That has been forwarded to the Government of Pakistan.
05:16Now guidelines will be taken from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Law and the Government.
05:21What can we do about it?
05:23One option is to be completely pulled out of the Champions Trophy.
05:27There can also be financial implications.
05:29But since it is written in the Member Participation Agreement.
05:32That if the government does not allow.
05:34Then any country can pull out.
05:36As India has been doing.
05:37They also have official communication.
05:39And they have also shown that our government is not giving us permission.
05:42But now we will have to draw a line.
05:44In 2016, Pakistan went to play the T20 World Cup despite the threats from extremists.
05:50The women's team also went.
05:52Pakistan also went to play the ODI World Cup despite the threats from extremists in 2023.
05:59Pakistan played in a volatile city like Ahmedabad.
06:02And what a time it was.
06:03It was a great time.
06:04There was no politics anywhere.
06:06So now Pakistan will have to draw a line.
06:09Vikrant Gupta is also with us.
06:11Let's talk to him.
06:12Vikrant, you may have heard Mr. Ashmi's conversation.
06:15And the Government of Pakistan more or less feels that this time they will put their foot down.
06:21And maybe they will be able to pull out.
06:24Is such a reaction being expected in India?
06:27How can this happen?
06:29It seems that more or less the Indian board is strong.
06:32So you will convince everyone to play in a third place on the hybrid model.
06:37Maria, I heard what Shahid Bhai said.
06:41His words are very valid.
06:42If you give ICC tournament to any country.
06:45If you give hosting rights.
06:47Then the country wants us to be here.
06:50Pakistan also wanted this.
06:51But the reaction that is coming in Pakistan in the last 48 hours.
06:55We knew four months ago that this would happen.
06:58But I think there I said earlier that maybe Pakistan cricket board would have pre-empted this.
07:04Maybe ICC and Pakistan cricket board would have delayed.
07:07And today this situation has come.
07:08But now it is very interesting what Pakistan will do.
07:12ICC has written a letter to Pakistan.
07:16That the Indian government has given this answer to BCCI.
07:19BCCI has given this answer.
07:21And at the same time, they have informed all the remaining members of the board through an email.
07:28That we had to make a schedule announcement on the 11th.
07:32It has been delayed a bit.
07:34Because the Indian government has refused permission for the team to travel to Pakistan.
07:39It has also been written that the changes that we will have to make.
07:43You will be informed.
07:45If we just look at it emotionally.
07:49Then the optics of Pakistan cricket board to go to the government is right.
07:54And it is very important in Pakistan that we don't play the Champions Trophy.
07:58We don't want to host it.
08:00But this is not possible.
08:01I said it right.
08:03That a forced major.
08:05Pakistan has signed two agreements with ICC.
08:08Indian cricket board has done only one.
08:11India has done the members participating agreement.
08:14Which is done by the member boards.
08:16Pakistan has also done the host participating agreement along with the members participating agreement.
08:22So what happens in the host participating agreement?
08:25There is a breakdown.
08:26How much money are you getting?
08:28What is the value of which match?
08:30And if Pakistan tells its government not to play the Champions Trophy.
08:36There must be a reason for that.
08:38I am talking to you on technical grounds.
08:40India has given this reason.
08:42Our government has said that we are not giving permission for the security of our top cricketers.
08:50Or they say that we do not have diplomatic relations with Pakistan.
08:54That's why we are not giving permission.
08:56That is one reason.
08:57In 1996, when the West Indies and the Australian team did not go to Sri Lanka.
09:03They proved security that we are not going.
09:06When the England team did not go to Harare in 2003.
09:09They proved that we do not have diplomatic relations with Robert Mugabe.
09:14We oppose him and we are not going.
09:16Now in today's date, India has given the security.
09:19I will not say that I do not know whether there is a security issue or not.
09:22They have written it.
09:23But if Pakistan pulls out from the Champions Trophy.
09:26Or does not host it.
09:27Then what reason will it give?
09:29Pakistan cannot give a reason that India has refused to come.
09:32Pakistan will have to give some reason.
09:34Plus, you will not only have a loss.
09:37There will be sanctions.
09:39The moment you pull out from the Champions Trophy.
09:42You can get sanctions.
09:44As a host, I agree.
09:46If I was in the place of the Pakistan Cricket Board, I would also say.
09:49Tell me, what is this?
09:51But is the Pakistan Cricket Team and the Pakistan Cricket Board ready for sanctions today?
09:57Right.
09:58The same questions that you have raised, let's take them to Mr. Shahid.
10:01Mr. Shahid, you talked about sanctions.
10:03Along with that, how will you give a reason?
10:05Why are we pulling out?
10:07We will not play with this Champions Trophy.
10:10So, do you think that these are tough questions?
10:14And when the Pakistani government has to answer them.
10:17Then somewhere, they will have to see to what extent they can go.
10:22Especially, the sanctions that you are talking about.
10:24Do you think this is a possibility?
10:26Absolutely, it is a possibility.
10:28You know about the possibility of lawyers and legal ways.
10:31There is always a way out.
10:34Pakistan can also say that we do not have diplomatic relations with India.
10:38India has pulled out.
10:40When Pakistan was awarded the Champions Trophy in September 2021.
10:45Was it written in it that the Indian team will participate in the Champions Trophy subject to government clearance?
10:52After that, in two years, all the board meetings that took place.
10:55Did India give a hint that we will not come to the Champions Trophy?
10:58No, according to the Pakistan Cricket Board.
11:00I am not aware of this.
11:02But the Pakistan Cricket Board says that in any board meeting.
11:05There are many meetings in two years.
11:07There is an ICC board meeting every three months.
11:09It was not given anywhere that India will not come for the Champions Trophy.
11:14And Pakistan spent 17 billion rupees to start the upgradation process on the grounds.
11:20Pakistan could have done it in phases.
11:22If there was no Champions Trophy.
11:24So Pakistan also has a valid reason.
11:26And it is not difficult to find a valid reason legally.
11:29But now we have to draw a line.
11:31Despite its threats, Pakistan participated in the T20 World Cup in 2016.
11:36And at that time, a match was shifted.
11:38When the Indian team came to Pakistan in 2004-2006-2008.
11:42The match was never shifted.
11:44The match was also shifted in 2016.
11:46In 2023, Pakistan also played in Ahmedabad.
11:49But now we have to draw a line.
11:51India has to host the Women's ODI World Cup next year.
11:54India has to host the Asian Champions Trophy.
11:57They are constantly mixing politics in sports.
12:00The way our fans were treated in 2023.
12:04No fan was given a visa from Pakistan.
12:07It was very difficult to reach 2-5 fans.
12:10This is a very big one-sided reaction.
12:13India does it on its clout and money.
12:16And this is a very dangerous sign for international cricket.
12:19That so much money comes from one country.
12:21Their clout is very good related to their performance.
12:24They are the top team in the world.
12:26But if they mix their clout and politics like this.
12:29Then Pakistan will also have to draw a line somewhere.
12:32And get a little support from the member board.
12:34And the only loss is cricket.
12:36I am only worried that the loss will be of cricket.
12:40One final option for Pakistan is to play in the UAE.
12:48Where India says that we are ready to play.
12:50Go there and play.
12:51Put on black armbands to protest.
12:54And defeat every team.
12:56And win the Champions Trophy.
12:57Because the answer can only be given on the ground.
13:00It is very difficult for India to answer off the field.
13:03Vikrat, the other sports.
13:06I told you in my introduction.
13:08The team came after 59 years for the Davis Cup.
13:10The blind cricket team is coming.
13:12Apart from this, other games of athletics keep coming.
13:16Only in cricket, security concerns are mentioned.
13:20So why cricket?
13:22Do you think because it has a political impact?
13:25Cricket and politics are mixed on both sides.
13:30Even your local regimes have a close relationship with them.
13:34So does this Pakistan-India relationship.
13:36They keep flexing through cricket boards.
13:39You are right.
13:41I want to know.
13:42Did everyone in Pakistan know the name of India's Davis Cup captain?
13:46No.
13:47How many people are coming to the blind cricket team?
13:50No.
13:51And I am not one of those people who do cherry picking.
13:54That I say this is right and that is wrong.
13:57If that is wrong, then that is right.
13:58I agree that it has to be standard.
14:00But at the same time, I told you earlier on my channel.
14:06I can confirm you, Maria ji.
14:10Some players had given reservations to the BCCI.
14:14Again, this is not my emotion.
14:18Shahid bhai is a little emotional and angry right now.
14:20And it is his duty.
14:21I am not saying this.
14:22But without emotion, I am telling you the news.
14:26Some Indian cricketers had also expressed their reservations.
14:30I know they will get a lot of love in Pakistan.
14:33This is a fact.
14:34I have visited Pakistan in 2004-2006.
14:37I know.
14:38But the situation is different today.
14:40You cannot explain to today's players that you will get so much love in Pakistan or not.
14:44Secondly, you are talking about stadiums and gradation.
14:48There will be matches.
14:50The host of the Champions Trophy is Pakistan.
14:52Pakistan will get all the hosting rights.
14:56If Pakistan is the hybrid model of the Champions Trophy,
14:59then the three stadiums that you have upgraded,
15:02no matter how much money is spent,
15:03there will be matches.
15:05The only thing is that India's matches will be played in Dubai.
15:08Including India-Pakistan game.
15:10And I think what can happen now,
15:12if we talk without emotion,
15:14what does Pakistan have right now?
15:16Pakistan has a bargaining chip.
15:18I am saying a bargaining chip.
15:19I am not saying that the game is over.
15:21It is a chess game.
15:22One move will go from there.
15:24One move will go from here.
15:26Ultimately, there will be a Champions Trophy.
15:28Ultimately, the luck will be in the hybrid model.
15:31But the moves that Pakistan has,
15:33let's do one thing.
15:35We will forfeit the India-Pakistan match.
15:38Okay.
15:39Hybrid it.
15:40Then we will not go to Dubai.
15:42In that case,
15:44the ICC will say,
15:45what is happening?
15:46India-Pakistan match is a showpiece event.
15:49On the basis of this match,
15:50the ICC tournaments are sold.
15:52So the ICC will be worried.
15:53But in this also,
15:54there is a broadcaster.
15:55Because Pakistan has signed a host agreement.
15:58In that, every match has value.
16:00Then the broadcaster will say,
16:02let's do one thing.
16:03Let's make you lose this much.
16:05So all these things will be there.
16:06But yes,
16:07if Pakistan,
16:08what you are saying,
16:09has to draw the line,
16:10put their foot down.
16:11Put a foot down will be for the future.
16:13Maybe I will tell you about the Champions Trophy Pakistan.
16:16What I was saying in the ICC,
16:18they said,
16:19the Pakistan Cricket Board also knows from within,
16:22that it will be done with a hybrid model.
16:24And this is going to be Dubai.
16:26This is Shahid Bhai's right.
16:28Before this,
16:29the BCCI had not said that we will not come.
16:31But I also want to know,
16:32when did the BCCI say for the last time,
16:35that we can think,
16:36or we can go.
16:37If you can see the patient,
16:39that he is on ventilator,
16:41then I don't think that
16:42until the doctor tells me,
16:43I will not believe that he is sick.
16:45He is on ventilator.
16:46So,
16:47this did not happen at any stage.
16:48Yes,
16:49when the ICC awarded,
16:50the BCCI was sitting in it,
16:51then,
16:52did the BCCI agree?
16:53I don't know that.
16:54But,
16:55my belief is that,
16:56from here,
16:57what I see,
16:58Pakistan will definitely do optics.
17:00It will also go to its government.
17:02It will also explore options.
17:04But ultimately,
17:05this Champions Trophy will happen.
17:07Pakistan and Dubai.
17:09Do you think,
17:10this will happen?
17:11Yes,
17:12this will happen.
17:13Pakistan and Dubai.
17:14Do you think,
17:15it will be on the hybrid model?
17:16Yes,
17:17on the hybrid model.
17:18A quick closing comment,
17:19Mr. Shahid.
17:20Do you think,
17:21eventually,
17:22it will go to the hybrid model?
17:23Mr. Shahid.
17:24Pakistan is not on such a strong footing.
17:26Vikrant is absolutely right.
17:28Pakistan is not on such a strong footing.
17:30So,
17:31don't accept it on the hybrid model.
17:32Tell them,
17:33to hold the whole tournament in UAE.
17:35The hosting rights will be with Pakistan.
17:37And,
17:38give a good performance there.
17:39Today's victory,
17:40from that,
17:41Pakistan,
17:42has said that,
17:43we belong to the international cricket community.
17:45We will give a good performance.
17:47If Pakistan gives a good performance,
17:48in the Champions Trophy,
17:49and,
17:50wins the Champions Trophy again,
17:52and retains it,
17:53it will be a strong reply,
17:54on the field.
17:55Because,
17:56off the field,
17:57there will be some problems.
17:58Absolutely.
17:59There is no doubt on this.
18:00There is no doubt.
18:01Your original craft,
18:02your game,
18:03you can give from that.
18:04Thank you both.
18:05We are trying to get the perspective of both,
18:06Pakistan and India.
18:07It's unfortunate that,
18:08when politics becomes so dominant,
18:09there is a loss of the game.
18:11There is a loss of cricket.
18:12There is a loss of those who love cricket.
18:14And,
18:15there is a loss of those players,
18:16who are not able to interact with their fans,
18:18and those who love them,
18:19in other countries.
18:20We will come back after the break.
18:21Let's take a look at the politics of the country.
18:23Shahid Khan Khan-e-Basit will be with us.
18:25Is the government independent?
18:26Or,
18:27it seems that the opposition,
18:28will be able to run some movement.
18:30Talk to us after the break.
18:35Shahid Khan Khan-e-Basit is present with us in the program.
18:38He is also the convener of the Awam Pakistan Party.
18:40Thank you very much, Mr. Shahid.
18:41First of all,
18:42let's start with today's big news.
18:44The Indian team,
18:45has refused to come to Pakistan,
18:47as you have been the Prime Minister.
18:49And,
18:50for the past one month,
18:51the state of Pakistan,
18:52and the politicians of Pakistan,
18:54have been expressing,
18:55a positive sentiment.
18:58But,
18:59we are not getting an answer from there.
19:01Do you think,
19:02for the time being,
19:03the relations between Pakistan and India,
19:06and cricket,
19:07will not be able to be normalized?
19:08Will we remain stuck in this politics?
19:11Look,
19:12if they have any concerns about India,
19:14then we should address them.
19:16But,
19:17if this has changed,
19:19at the last minute,
19:21then this is not right.
19:22Because,
19:23if you have security concerns,
19:25for a long time,
19:27then they are tried to be solved.
19:30All the teams,
19:31that come to Pakistan,
19:32do this.
19:33So,
19:34in sports,
19:35politics is not a good thing.
19:37Now,
19:38politics is becoming a part of sports.
19:40So,
19:41I think,
19:42India should avoid this.
19:43Come here,
19:44and play.
19:48Sir,
19:49the political class of Pakistan and India,
19:51is not at all,
19:52capable,
19:53to divide this bridge.
19:55Because,
19:56you have seen,
19:57all the issues.
19:58Now,
19:59there is no capacity,
20:00that both the countries,
20:01at least,
20:02on sports,
20:03or on soft activities,
20:05can come to an agreement.
20:09In sports,
20:10there used to be an agreement.
20:12Unfortunately,
20:14since,
20:16Modi government,
20:17has come to India,
20:19then,
20:20there has been a speed in this matter.
20:22Our core issue,
20:23of Kashmir,
20:24is established everywhere.
20:26And,
20:27our stand on it,
20:28is very clear.
20:29So,
20:30that is why,
20:31I am saying,
20:32in sports,
20:33using it,
20:34as a,
20:35leverage,
20:36or,
20:37creating an issue,
20:38in it,
20:39is not appropriate.
20:41And,
20:42both the countries should not do it.
20:44They can have,
20:45Indian security concerns,
20:46but,
20:47those concerns are always addressed.
20:49Right now,
20:50the Indian cricket team,
20:51has played here.
20:52So,
20:53they didn't have any problem.
20:54The security concerns were addressed.
20:56Here,
20:57everything can happen,
20:58in any sport.
21:01Right.
21:02Let's go a little further.
21:03Let's talk about,
21:04Pakistan's,
21:05internal politics.
21:07Right now,
21:08after the 26th IMEI,
21:09and,
21:10the rest of the legislation,
21:11do you feel,
21:12that,
21:13the government,
21:14is in a comfortable position,
21:15politically speaking?
21:17You have gained a lot of ground,
21:18in the last month.
21:20So,
21:21do you feel,
21:22that you are,
21:23in a comfortable position,
21:24towards stability,
21:25in this role?
21:27The government,
21:28gets comfort,
21:29from its mandate,
21:30or,
21:31from its performance.
21:32But,
21:33the people,
21:34are not here.
21:35So,
21:36this kind of,
21:37reverse legislation,
21:38to run,
21:39the country's affairs,
21:40is,
21:41a big,
21:42failure,
21:43and,
21:44a confession.
21:45We should,
21:46avoid this.
21:50Sir,
21:51we should avoid this,
21:52but,
21:53politically speaking,
21:54the opposition,
21:55right now,
21:56is not able to create,
21:57a big movement.
21:58They are not able,
21:59to create a big street agitation.
22:00Politically speaking,
22:01the government,
22:02is not able,
22:03to create a movement.
22:05So,
22:06do you feel,
22:07that,
22:08the opposition,
22:09is not giving,
22:10a tough time,
22:11to the government?
22:12When has the opposition,
22:13been able to give a tough time,
22:14in the history of the parliament,
22:15of Pakistan?
22:16But,
22:17the opposition,
22:18at least,
22:19the opposition does.
22:20Today's opposition,
22:21is not even the opposition.
22:22Today,
22:23the PTI,
22:24the main opposition party,
22:25has only one focus,
22:26and,
22:27one big,
22:28declared,
22:29goal,
22:30of their opposition,
22:31and that is,
22:32to get Imran Khan,
22:33out of jail.
22:34Whoever,
22:35speaks from there,
22:36says,
22:37that,
22:38we have made,
22:39a final decision,
22:40we will,
22:41hold a meeting,
22:42we will create agitation,
22:43we will run a movement,
22:44and,
22:45we will run a movement,
22:46to get Imran Khan,
22:47out of jail.
22:48Neither,
22:49do they talk about,
22:50the issues of the country,
22:51nor,
22:52do they talk about,
22:53the role of the opposition,
22:54in the country.
22:55They only,
22:56have a single point agenda,
22:57and,
22:58today,
22:59all the,
23:00parties,
23:01have,
23:02a government,
23:03in Pakistan.
23:04If,
23:05they,
23:06deliver,
23:07the people of Pakistan,
23:08in their own government,
23:09the PTI,
23:10has a government,
23:11in KP,
23:12and,
23:13a third,
23:14consecutive government.
23:15So,
23:16deliver the people of Pakistan,
23:17and,
23:18show them,
23:19what they can do,
23:20for the people of Pakistan.
23:21This,
23:22is a rare opportunity,
23:23for an opposition,
23:24to do it,
23:25and show it.
23:26So,
23:27PTI,
23:28has,
23:29become,
23:30an effective,
23:31opposition.
23:32So,
23:33if,
23:34the government,
23:35thinks,
23:36that it has,
23:37got a chance,
23:38then,
23:39it has,
23:40got it,
23:41because of,
23:42PTI's,
23:43incompetence.
23:44Yes,
23:45but,
23:46if it is an ineffective,
23:47opposition,
23:48Mr.
23:49Khan,
23:50then,
23:51why do you feel,
23:52that the government,
23:53is so nervous,
23:54about passing the law?
23:55Why,
23:56does it want,
23:57to pass the legislation,
23:58overnight?
23:59If,
24:00there is no threat,
24:01from the opposition,
24:02then,
24:03why are they doing all this?
24:04They are taking,
24:05such radical steps,
24:06and,
24:07they did it,
24:08in just a few weeks.
24:09No,
24:10as I said,
24:11the strength,
24:12and power,
24:13of the government,
24:14is due to,
24:15its mandate,
24:16and,
24:17its performance.
24:18This government,
24:19does not have,
24:20both.
24:21Neither,
24:22mandate,
24:23nor performance.
24:24So,
24:25they think,
24:26that they can,
24:27give importance,
24:28to their power,
24:29or,
24:30what we call,
24:31strength.
24:32The strength,
24:33of the government,
24:34is when,
24:35the country is strong.
24:36You keep watching,
24:37what happens.
24:38So,
24:39by passing this law,
24:40they think,
24:41that they have achieved,
24:42some success.
24:43This is not,
24:44success.
24:45This is,
24:46your foolishness,
24:47and,
24:48this is,
24:49your acceptance,
24:50of failure.
24:51Let's move forward,
24:52a little.
24:53After,
24:54Trump's election,
24:55he is thinking,
24:56that,
24:57at least,
24:58internationally,
24:59there will be,
25:00some change.
25:01If,
25:02there is no change in rights,
25:03but,
25:04the policies of,
25:05Biden administration,
25:06will not continue.
25:07The government,
25:08seems a little,
25:09worried.
25:10Whether,
25:11they accept,
25:12or not.
25:13Do you think,
25:14there will be,
25:15any change,
25:16in the US,
25:17establishment,
25:18and,
25:19administration?
25:20The focus,
25:21of PTI is,
25:22that,
25:23Imran Khan,
25:24will be released.
25:25Now,
25:26they think,
25:27that,
25:28some people,
25:29say that,
25:30there are big,
25:31personal issues.
25:32Some say,
25:33that,
25:34when,
25:35President Trump,
25:36comes,
25:37his policies,
25:38will be different.
25:39He will put pressure on Pakistan,
25:40to get Imran Khan,
25:41out of jail.
25:42So,
25:43their focus,
25:44today,
25:45is not on,
25:46country affairs,
25:47or,
25:48democracy.
25:49Their focus,
25:50is that,
25:51Imran Khan,
25:52should be released,
25:53and,
25:54Trump,
25:55will put pressure,
25:56on Pakistan,
25:57and,
25:58Imran Khan,
25:59will get help,
26:00to get out of jail.
26:01So,
26:02political leaders,
26:03who...
26:04But,
26:05sir,
26:06to get your leader,
26:07out of jail,
26:08is the choice,
26:09of any party.
26:10Whether,
26:11they make,
26:12political moves,
26:13or,
26:14sit in backdrop,
26:15and talk,
26:16but,
26:17this is the choice,
26:18of every party.
26:19That,
26:20if your leader,
26:21is in jail,
26:22then,
26:23there is no,
26:24first priority,
26:25or,
26:26final priority.
26:27Here,
26:28there is only,
26:29one goal,
26:30of politics,
26:31to get Imran Khan,
26:32out of jail.
26:33Whether,
26:34we wait for,
26:35Trump,
26:36or,
26:37some other miracle.
26:38You,
26:39talk about the country,
26:40the opposition,
26:41should talk about,
26:42the opposition.
26:43Talk about,
26:44country affairs,
26:45talk about,
26:46country policies,
26:47talk about,
26:48country laws,
26:49talk about,
26:50the problems,
26:51that,
26:52the government,
26:53should deliver,
26:54and show.
26:55In KP,
26:56their government,
26:57should deliver,
26:58and show,
26:59that,
27:00we can do this,
27:01but,
27:02there is no focus,
27:03on that.
27:04Today,
27:05there is,
27:06a lot of thoughtlessness,
27:07if you think,
27:08that,
27:09Trump,
27:10will put pressure,
27:11on Pakistan,
27:12and,
27:13Imran Khan,
27:14will come out,
27:15of jail.
27:16These things,
27:17this,
27:18expectation,
27:19I think,
27:20that,
27:21this,
27:22expectation,
27:23that,
27:24Trump,
27:25will come out,
27:26of jail,
27:27and,
27:28Imran Khan,
27:29will come out,
27:30of jail,
27:31and,
27:32Imran Khan,
27:33will come out,
27:34of jail,
27:35and,
27:36Imran Khan,
27:37will come out,
27:38of jail,
27:39and,
27:40Imran Khan,
27:41will come out,
27:42of jail,
27:43and,
27:44Imran Khan,
27:45will come out,
27:46of jail,
27:47and,
27:48Imran Khan,
27:49will come out,
27:50of jail,
27:51and,
27:52Imran Khan,
27:53will come out,
27:54of jail,
27:55and,
27:56Imran Khan,
27:57will come out,
27:58of jail,
27:59and,
28:00Imran Khan,
28:01will come out,
28:02of jail,
28:03and,
28:04Imran Khan,
28:05will come out,
28:06of jail,
28:07and,
28:08Imran Khan,
28:09will come out,
28:10of jail,
28:11and,
28:12Imran Khan,
28:13will come out,
28:14of jail,
28:15and,
28:16Imran Khan,
28:17will come out,
28:18of jail,
28:19and,
28:20Imran Khan,
28:21will come out,
28:22of jail,
28:23and,
28:24Imran Khan,
28:25will come out,
28:26of jail,
28:27and,
28:28Imran Khan,
28:29will come out,
28:30of jail,
28:31and,
28:32Imran Khan,
28:33will come out,
28:34of jail,
28:35and,
28:36Imran Khan,
28:37will come out,
28:38of jail,
28:39and,
28:40Imran Khan,
28:41will come out,
28:42of jail,
28:43and,
28:44Imran Khan,
28:45will come out,
28:46of jail,
28:47and,
28:48Imran Khan,
28:49will come out,
28:50of jail,
28:51and,
28:52Imran Khan,
28:53will come out,
28:54of jail,
28:55and,
28:56Imran Khan,
28:57will come out,
28:58of jail,
28:59and,
29:00Imran Khan,
29:01will come out,
29:02of jail,
29:03and,
29:04Imran Khan,
29:05will come out,
29:06of jail,
29:07and,
29:08Imran Khan,
29:09will come out,
29:10of jail,
29:11and,
29:12Imran Khan,
29:13will come out,
29:14of jail,
29:15and,
29:16Imran Khan,
29:17will come out,
29:18of jail,
29:19and,
29:20Imran Khan,
29:21will come out,
29:22of jail,
29:23and,
29:24Imran Khan,
29:25will come out,
29:26of jail,
29:27and,
29:28Imran Khan,
29:29will come out,
29:30of jail,
29:31and,
29:32Imran Khan,
29:33will come out,
29:34of jail,
29:35and,
29:36Imran Khan,
29:37will come out,
29:38of jail,
29:39and,
29:40Imran Khan,
29:41will come out,
29:42of jail,
29:43and,
29:44Imran Khan,
29:45will come out,
29:46of jail,
29:47and,
29:48Imran Khan,
29:49will come out,
29:50of jail,
29:51and,
29:52Imran Khan,
29:53will come out,
29:54of jail,
29:55and,
29:56Imran Khan,
29:57will come out,
29:58of jail,
29:59and,
30:00Imran Khan,
30:01will come out,
30:02of jail,
30:03and,
30:04Imran Khan,
30:05will come out,
30:06of jail,
30:07and,
30:08Imran Khan,
30:09will come out,
30:10of jail,
30:11and,
30:12Imran Khan,
30:13will come out,
30:14of jail,
30:15and,
30:16Imran Khan,
30:17will come out,
30:18of jail,
30:19and,
30:20Imran Khan,
30:21will come out,
30:22of jail,
30:23and,
30:24Imran Khan,
30:25will come out,
30:26of jail,
30:27and,
30:28Imran Khan,
30:29will come out,
30:30of jail,
30:31and,
30:32Imran Khan,
30:33will come out,
30:34of jail,
30:35and,
30:36Imran Khan,
30:37will come out,
30:38of jail,
30:39and,
30:40Imran Khan,
30:41will come out,
30:42of jail,
30:43and,
30:44Imran Khan,
30:45will come out,
30:46of jail,
30:47and,
30:48Imran Khan,
30:49will come out,
30:50of jail,
30:51and,
30:52Imran Khan,
30:53will come out,
30:54of jail,
30:55and,
30:56Imran Khan,
30:57will come out,
30:58of jail,
30:59and,
31:00Imran Khan,
31:01will come out,
31:02of jail,
31:03and,
31:04Imran Khan,
31:05will come out,
31:06of jail,
31:07and,
31:08Imran Khan,
31:09will come out,
31:10of jail,
31:11and,
31:12Imran Khan,
31:13will come out,
31:14of jail,
31:15and,
31:16Imran Khan,
31:17will come out,
31:18of jail,
31:19and,
31:20Imran Khan,
31:21will come out,
31:22of jail,
31:23and,
31:24Imran Khan,
31:25will come out,
31:26of jail,
31:27and,
31:28Imran Khan,
31:29will come out,
31:30of jail,
31:31and,
31:32Imran Khan,
31:33will come out,
31:34of jail,
31:35and,
31:36Imran Khan,
31:37will come out,
31:38of jail,
31:39and,
31:40Imran Khan,
31:41will come out,
31:42of jail,
31:43and,
31:44Imran Khan,
31:45will come out,
31:46of jail,
31:47and,
31:48Imran Khan,
31:49will come out,
31:50of jail,
31:51and,
31:52Imran Khan,
31:53will come out,
31:54of jail,
31:55and,
31:56Imran Khan,
31:57will come out,
31:58of jail,
31:59and,
32:00Imran Khan,
32:01will come out,
32:02of jail,
32:03and,
32:04Imran Khan,
32:05will come out,
32:06of jail,
32:07and,
32:08Imran Khan,
32:09will come out,
32:10of jail,
32:11and,
32:12Imran Khan,
32:13will come out,
32:14of jail,
32:15and,
32:16Imran Khan,
32:17will come out,
32:18of jail,
32:19and,
32:20Imran Khan,
32:21will come out,
32:22of jail,
32:23and,
32:24Imran Khan,
32:25will come out,
32:26of jail,
32:27and,
32:28Imran Khan,
32:29will come out,
32:30of jail,
32:31and,
32:32Imran Khan,
32:33will come out,
32:34of jail,
32:35and,
32:36Imran Khan,
32:37will come out,
32:38of jail,
32:39and,
32:40Imran Khan,
32:41will come out,
32:42of jail,
32:43and,
32:44Imran Khan,
32:45will come out,
32:46of jail,
32:47and,
32:48Imran Khan,
32:49will come out,
32:50of jail,
32:51and,
32:52Imran Khan,
32:53will come out,
32:54of jail,
32:55and,
32:56Imran Khan,
32:57will come out,
32:58of jail,
32:59and,
33:00Imran Khan,
33:01will come out,
33:02of jail,
33:03and,
33:04Imran Khan,
33:05will come out,
33:06of jail,
33:07and,
33:08Imran Khan,
33:09will come out,
33:10of jail,
33:11and,
33:12Imran Khan,
33:13will come out,
33:14of jail,
33:15and,
33:16Imran Khan,
33:17will come out,
33:18of jail,
33:19and,
33:20Imran Khan,
33:21will come out,
33:22of jail,
33:23and,
33:24Imran Khan,
33:25will come out,
33:26of jail,
33:27and,
33:28Imran Khan,
33:29will come out,
33:30of jail,
33:31and,
33:32Imran Khan,
33:33will come out,
33:34of jail,
33:35and,
33:36Imran Khan,
33:37will come out,
33:38of jail,
33:39and,
33:40Imran Khan,
33:41will come out,
33:42of jail,
33:43and,
33:44Imran Khan,
33:45will come out,
33:46of jail,
33:47and,
33:48Imran Khan,
33:49will come out,
33:50of jail,
33:51and,
33:52Imran Khan,
33:53will come out,
33:54of jail,
33:55and,
33:56Imran Khan,
33:57will come out,
33:58of jail,
33:59and,
34:00Imran Khan,
34:01will come out,
34:02of jail,
34:03and,
34:04Imran Khan,
34:05will come out,
34:06of jail,
34:07and,
34:08Imran Khan,
34:09will come out,
34:10of jail,
34:11and,
34:12Imran Khan,
34:13will come out,
34:14of jail,
34:15and,
34:16Imran Khan,
34:17will come out,
34:18of jail,
34:19and,
34:20Imran Khan,
34:21will come out,
34:22of jail,
34:23and,
34:24Imran Khan,
34:25will come out,
34:26of jail,
34:27and,
34:28Imran Khan,
34:29will come out,
34:30of jail,
34:31and,
34:32Imran Khan,
34:33will come out,
34:34of jail,
34:35and,
34:36Imran Khan,
34:37will come out,
34:38of jail,
34:39and,
34:40Imran Khan,
34:41will come out,
34:42of jail,
34:43and,
34:44Imran Khan,
34:45will come out,
34:46of jail,
34:47and,
34:48Imran Khan,
34:49will come out,
34:50of jail,
34:51and,
34:52Imran Khan,
34:53will come out,
34:54of jail,
34:55and,
34:56Imran Khan,
34:57will come out,
34:58of jail,
34:59and,
35:00Imran Khan,
35:01will come out,
35:02of jail,
35:03and,
35:04Imran Khan,
35:05will come out,
35:06of jail,
35:07and,
35:08Imran Khan,
35:09will come out,
35:10of jail,
35:11and,
35:12Imran Khan,
35:13will come out,
35:14of jail,
35:15and,
35:16Imran Khan,
35:17will come out,
35:18of jail,
35:19and,
35:20Imran Khan,
35:21will come out,
35:22of jail,
35:23and,
35:24Imran Khan,
35:25will come out,
35:26of jail,
35:27and,
35:28Imran Khan,
35:29will come out,
35:30of jail,
35:31and,
35:32Imran Khan,
35:33will come out,
35:34of jail,
35:35and,
35:36Imran Khan,
35:37will come out,
35:38of jail,
35:39and,
35:40Imran Khan,
35:41will come out,
35:42of jail,
35:43and,
35:44Imran Khan,
35:45will come out,
35:46of jail,
35:47and,
35:48Imran Khan,
35:49will come out,
35:50of jail,
35:51and,
35:52Imran Khan,
35:53will come out,
35:54of jail,
35:55and,
35:56Imran Khan,
35:57will come out,
35:58of jail,
35:59and,
36:00Imran Khan,
36:01will come out,
36:02of jail,
36:03and,
36:04Imran Khan,
36:05will come out,
36:06of jail,
36:07and,
36:08Imran Khan,
36:09will come out,
36:10of jail,
36:11and,
36:12Imran Khan,
36:13will come out,
36:14of jail,
36:15and,
36:16Imran Khan,
36:17will come out,
36:18of jail,
36:19and,
36:20Imran Khan,
36:21will come out,
36:22of jail,
36:23and,
36:24Imran Khan,
36:25will come out,
36:26of jail,
36:27and,
36:28Imran Khan,
36:29will come out,
36:30of jail,
36:31and,
36:32Imran Khan,
36:33will come out,
36:34of jail,
36:35and,
36:36Imran Khan,
36:37will come out,
36:38of jail,
36:39and,
36:40Imran Khan,
36:41will come out,
36:42of jail,
36:43and,
36:44Imran Khan,
36:45will come out,
36:46of jail,
36:47and,
36:48Imran Khan,
36:49will come out,
36:50of jail,
36:51and,
36:52Imran Khan,
36:53will come out,
36:54of jail,
36:55and,
36:56Imran Khan,
36:57will come out,
36:58of jail,
36:59and,
37:00Imran Khan,
37:01will come out,
37:02of jail,
37:03and,
37:04Imran Khan,
37:05will come out,
37:06of jail,
37:07and,
37:08Imran Khan,
37:09will come out,
37:10of jail,
37:11and,
37:12Imran Khan,
37:13will come out,
37:14of jail,
37:15and,
37:16Imran Khan,
37:17will come out,
37:18of jail,
37:19and,
37:20Imran Khan,
37:21will come out,
37:22of jail,
37:23and,
37:24Imran Khan,
37:25will come out,
37:26of jail,
37:27and,
37:28Imran Khan,
37:29will come out,
37:30of jail,
37:31and,
37:32Imran Khan,
37:33will come out,
37:34of jail,
37:35and,
37:36Imran Khan,
37:37will come out,
37:38of jail,
37:39and,
37:40Imran Khan,
37:41will come out,
37:42of jail,
37:43and,
37:44Imran Khan,
37:45will come out,
37:46of jail,
37:47and,
37:48Imran Khan,
37:49will come out,
37:50of jail,
37:51and,
37:52Imran Khan,
37:53will come out,
37:54of jail,
37:55and,
37:56Imran Khan,
37:57will come out,
37:58of jail,
37:59and,
38:00Imran Khan,
38:01will come out,
38:02of jail,
38:03and,
38:04Imran Khan,
38:05will come out,
38:06of jail,
38:07and,
38:08Imran Khan,
38:09will come out,
38:10of jail,
38:11and,
38:12Imran Khan,
38:13will come out,
38:14of jail,
38:15and,
38:16Imran Khan,
38:17will come out,
38:18of jail,
38:19and,
38:20Imran Khan,
38:21will come out,
38:22of jail,
38:23and,
38:24Imran Khan,
38:25will come out,
38:26of jail,