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00:00Hey, welcome back to episode 2 of the Motorcyclist Podcast, where we talk about motorcycles and what makes them great.
00:07As we say, topics on this show are kind of constantly changed, but the one thing that's gonna stay the same is two-wheeled fun.
00:13In this episode, we're going to talk about this year's MotoGP finale and about all the concept bikes that we saw at Eichmann this year.
00:20That includes bikes like BMW's concept R450GS, Honda's
00:26supercharged V3 engine, and
00:29some electric bikes that are really making a splash for
00:32this year's show.
00:34As always, Eichmann is the big show where everyone brings all their stuff, shows off what they're working on, shows their new bikes, and
00:44really shows off what they have in store for the future, and that includes a lot of concepts. This year,
00:49there was a lot more electric concepts,
00:52which has become more and more
00:54every single year at Eichmann, obviously, and
00:57in some of the last
00:59few concepts, including engines,
01:03they're saying that they're gonna build these crazy engines, so that's gonna be really cool.
01:07So, we're gonna get going, but before we do that, we need to have some introductions. We've got editor Adam Wahid,
01:12we've got in-market editor Bradley Adams, and you got myself, executive editor Justin Dawes.
01:17So, as always, we're gonna start with what everyone's riding. So, Adam, what'd you ride this week?
01:23Oh, we were lucky enough to try out Honda's 2025 CBR 1000
01:29RRR Fireblade SP yesterday. Wow, what a nice bike.
01:33It's cool to see Honda back in the super bike game, finally, after kind of being away for a few years.
01:40Right on. Bradley, what about you?
01:42I was actually lucky enough to ride that with Adam, and I will just add that, yes, he's right,
01:48that thing was a lot of fun, but I actually wanted to take this chance to talk about the Husky
01:54Vitpilen 401 that we've had at the office for a little bit. I haven't ridden it. We've been riding the Duke 390, and
02:01that bike, it just didn't fit me. It was so compact, and I just didn't really gel with it that much, and kind of, you
02:08can see the bones are there for a good bike, and then all of a sudden, I jumped on the Vitpilen, and I was like,
02:12ah, this is where it makes sense. Great little, like, city bike. You know, obviously, it's
02:17a little bit buzzy and not great for freeway riding and stuff like that for the longer commutes,
02:22and maybe not so great, but it's like a little around-town entry-level machine. That thing is a lot of fun,
02:28and it looks really good. I think it looks better than the Duke as well.
02:31Yeah, it's cool to throw a leg over that. Nice. Right on. You've been playing in the mud, too, right? This week,
02:37I saw a couple posts. This week was no testing for work. It was
02:42all behind the computer all week, except for Sunday. I went out on the road with the boys in the mud,
02:48and man, it was muddy. It was a lot of mud. I think we went maybe five miles in four or five hours.
02:56Whoa, that's brutal. Yeah, lots of hill climbs, just, like, greased ice everywhere we went. So,
03:02that was on my KTM 350 behind me, but yeah, super, super fun weekend to just go out and ride
03:10without thinking about work. Yeah, there you go. Nice. My weekend consisted of watching a lot of
03:17MotoGP. Yeah. Big fan of season finales. I mean, obviously, we kind of knew going into this weekend
03:24that Jorge Martín was most likely going to walk away with the championship, and he rode smart,
03:29and it kind of made for relatively boring racing, I guess you could say. Yeah, it was not the most
03:36exciting of races, but, I mean, the whole season, it was up in the air the whole time, and that's
03:42what you want to see out of a season, is that it's not a foregone conclusion who's going to win until
03:47the very last race. So, I mean, it could have been one of Jorge's moves that he's done multiple times
03:53where he just throws it away, you know, and it could have completely changed. It was definitely
03:57possible, for sure. Yeah, it's like you're hanging in, just like, okay, let's see this thing through
04:01the end, but I just, I don't know, I love last race of the season. I think there's so much emotion
04:07to it. You get people retiring. In this case, you had Aleix Espargo, you know, and just what he's
04:14done and contributed to the paddock, I think, and he wears his emotions on his sleeve. So,
04:20I mean, it was really cool to see him get to celebrate, and he had a fantastic race, I thought.
04:25Yeah, fourth place for his last race. Very, very good race. Or fifth, sorry, fifth, but he was up
04:31there in fourth. Yeah, no, he was up front. Yeah, that was really cool to see. How about the
04:37venue change? Yeah, I mean, they pulled it off, and it was really cool to see, you know, all the
04:44outpouring of emotion for Valencia and guys running, you know, grabbing the Valencia flag
04:50when they were doing their cool-down laps and all that. It was good to see that, you know,
04:55although they moved the venue, they didn't forget where the race was supposed to be,
05:01and the people of that area. So, that was really cool. Yeah, I think, I don't know, I just love
05:07racing. I love watching that stuff. I love the emotion that that series can just bring you,
05:12and just watching, just everything that those teams put into being out there, you know, and
05:17getting through a whole season and the successes that people have, you know, it's, I don't know,
05:23I think it's really cool to kind of put a bow on the season, and I don't know, I thought it was
05:28really, really good weekend. Yeah, and I mean, they're already back at it today, right? First
05:33test, season test is today. You've got Marc Marquez on the factory Ducati. All red. That was
05:40cool. That was like a statement. I didn't get it at first, and I was like, oh, he's making a
05:43statement, like, I'm in red this year. I'm all red. My bike is red this year. My bike is red,
05:49red, red. It is not grizzly colors. It is not a satellite ride. I am back to factory racing,
05:55which is really cool, but I'm going to wonder how those guys are going to work together,
06:02Peko and Marquez. Peko is quite the competitor. He's a talented rider, but he races clean. He,
06:11you know, he doesn't... What are you saying about Marc? What are you trying to say here?
06:15You know, where Marquez is, you know, I could see him shoving his teammate around a little bit.
06:23I think they've done an incredible job with that relationship so far. I was in Mugello last year,
06:29and I'm not sure if you guys remember, but there was an incident in, I think it was either
06:34qualifying or one of the last three practice, and you know, going in, I think it was like into
06:39turn one or something. And I remember I was actually walking down Hot Pit past the Ducati
06:45garage just after that, and they were, I was with the Alpinestars guys. So they were communicating,
06:49and they were talking about how frustrated, I mean, and that's using, that's a very nice term
06:55to use, but how frustrated they were with Marquez in that. And so I think what they've been able to
06:59do with that relationship, not only with between Ducati and Marc, but now with Peko and Marc,
07:05I think is, you know, it's been good. Now, when does that sour at any point this year?
07:11Because to your point, yeah, that's, it only takes one incident, you know.
07:15It only takes one. It only takes one.
07:17It's probably going to be more than one.
07:19Yeah, good point. Yeah, good point. Yeah, so along those lines, a couple of other things,
07:24obviously you've got a bunch of, you know, you got Maverick and Anaya on the KTMs. That's been
07:30interesting watching Jorge on the Aprilia. I've been like watching some of the test results so
07:35far today. And I think that the funniest thing to me, well, actually there's a couple of things
07:39that stood out, but one, Jorge had a small crash on the Aprilia and then Anaya had a crash on the
07:47KTM. And it was just like guys who are getting off the Ducatis and getting on other bikes,
07:52you know, I'm assuming, you know, that they're like trying to do similar things that they've
07:55done on the Ducatis and they're like, oh wait, no, this isn't, this isn't, you know, it's kind
08:01of biting them a little. Right. But man, Vinales on the KTM, he was pretty quick. Yeah, I didn't
08:07see the final results. Fourth fastest is before we clicked off to record this thing. So he's
08:13going fast and he hasn't fallen down yet, but he's going from an Aprilia to a KTM, not a Ducati to a
08:17KTM. Right. So, and then you've got the one guy, obviously that everyone's talking about, Jorge
08:23Martin, new champion, taking his number one plate to Aprilia, which man, that's, that's, that's a
08:31big, we'll say F you to Ducati. Yeah, that was a hot topic. I know there was a quote this weekend
08:39from the Ducati guys about essentially insinuating that Aprilia was buying a number one plate, which
08:45I don't necessarily see that being the case, but. No, they, they gave away the number one plate.
08:49They should have, they should have taken care of Jorge. That's the way to put it. Yeah. A couple
08:54other things. Got a new MotoGP logo. I'm super small thing, but worth mentioning because we know
09:01everyone's going to want to talk about that. It wasn't very well received. It was a little bit,
09:04what do they call it? Minimalist styling. Minimalist. Did you see it, Adam? Did you
09:08check it out? What do you thought? Yeah, I did. I saw it, you know, I don't know, like, I don't
09:13think of update and logo really is a big meaning to me. You know, the old logo was fine. You know,
09:19I remember Supercross did that a couple years ago and it's just a non-factor to me. So cool.
09:24They did it, but it doesn't even matter. It's not like their logo was like a Coca-Cola logo
09:29or a Ford logo that has been the same logo forever. So they're constantly updating for the
09:34times, you know, even Formula One, the logo changes. So yeah, it doesn't matter. I think
09:40people's thing is just trying to see, this is like really the first look at like Liberty Media's
09:45impact, right, on the series. And so I think they're kind of using this as an example of like
09:50what they're going to do for, you know, whether it's, you know, good changes or bad. And I think
09:56people so far are happy with the logo, but in a year, nobody's going to remember it.
10:00I will say the one thing that I am bummed about is losing Simon Crafar from the announcing team
10:11to go to Chief Steward, which is going to be great for the riders, you know,
10:15Spencer was always kind of got a lot of crap for inconsistent decisions. And I think Simon's job,
10:23very tough job, but I think Simon's going to be, should be very consistent and very fair. He,
10:29you know, he knows the riders just as Spencer did obviously, but he's a little less removed
10:35by his years of racing. So, but I always liked his commentary and I always look forward to Simon's
10:44insights. So I'm bummed to lose that part of the team. It was like a cheat code getting to listen
10:49to him, right? Because he just, he's just so much knowledge and you just, yeah, he just did such a
10:54good job of explaining stuff. Last thing we got to talk about, last thing we got to talk about,
10:58sorry, Adam, about MotoGP weekend. There were Harleys on track, Kyle Lyman, a couple other
11:04guys riding their factory prep road glides at Catalonia. That was interesting. What do you,
11:10what do you know about that? You know anything?
11:14I know that Simon Craver wrote it and that was cool. Yeah. Speaking of Simon Craver.
11:19Yeah, he wrote it. So it was all the, it was all Harleys. There was no Indians there.
11:27So there's not a lot of info on what really is going to happen with that. Are they going to
11:33have like a fully fridge racing season? That's just a Harley exhibition or are they going to
11:38open it up to everybody else and make it a bagger class at MotoGP? Or is there something else
11:46that's going to come of it? Nobody really knows. So yeah. Yeah. I think we were promised a press
11:51release at some point this week on some intentions and things like that. And I know it seems like
11:57people are really torn on their opinions on it. I mean, I think obviously there's some silliness
12:03to it, the whole thing. But at the same time, like I don't, I think Adam, we went to a Moto
12:09America race this last year and you see the crowds that those baggers are drawing in. I mean.
12:16All the Cruiser V twin people love it. It's incredible.
12:19So I love it. I'm not a Cruiser V twin guy. You know, I'm not, I like riding cruisers.
12:24Bradley's a super cruiser guy now, but I love the racing because it's weird. It's hectic.
12:32Things are weaving and bobbing all over the place. Like it's super fun to watch.
12:35And it really did invigorate part of Moto America and that's rad. But does MotoGP need that?
12:44Maybe not.
12:45Yeah. Good point. Good point. Yeah. Well, it'll be interesting to see kind of what comes of all
12:49that. I'd love to hear some people's thoughts on it too. So drop a comment. Let us know what
12:54your thoughts are on the whole bagger racing thing and seeing those guys at, you know, at Catalunya.
13:00So it's interesting nonetheless. And I think guys like Kyle Wyman have been such a great
13:04steward for the, for that series. And yeah, I'm happy to see those guys push the project forward.
13:11You know, we love, love seeing progress and growth and people who are committed to
13:16motorcycling and the sport and growing it. And that's in a lot of ways what they're doing. So
13:20no arguments.
13:21Absolutely. Absolutely. Talking about prototype MotoGP, why don't we talk about the concept
13:28motorcycles that were at EICMA here a couple of years ago or a couple of weeks ago in Milan,
13:32Italy. A lot of cool concepts from BMW Motorrad and Honda and you know, a lot to talk about.
13:40Yeah, there's definitely a lot of cool bikes. We can't talk about all of them because this show
13:45would be three and a half, four hours long. But kind of the standouts that we saw, you know,
13:50on our websites really popping off in terms of comments and views, you know, the first one was
13:58BMW's concept F450GS. That thing looks really fun.
14:02Yeah. It's funny to see so much discussion and interest in what is essentially still a small
14:09displacement adventure bike, but it's a proper adventure bike, I think is the big takeaway from
14:15that, right? Obviously not a lot of, not a lot of specs as will be the case with a lot of these
14:19concept bikes, but all new parallel twin engine, 48 horsepower, new chassis. It looks like it's got
14:24like the, you know, BMW's upgraded electronics package, you know, at least showing that they're
14:29taking it serious. And all this stuff I read was basically insinuating, hey, we built, we wanted
14:34to build a proper off-road machine that also, you know, still worked, you know, on road and was
14:39enjoyable to ride in that situation. But for sure, it always went back to aggressive off-road stuff.
14:45And you saw that in the video clips that they pushed out on it. And yeah, I don't know. I think,
14:50I think that's an exciting space. I mean, I think one thing about the adventure bike category right
14:55now is so many people that have got into it and are into the large displacement stuff. They've
15:00kind of already got their bikes and are happy. I think what we're seeing is trying to fill that
15:05bottom tier again and get new riders into the space. We're seeing that obviously with the KTM
15:09390 that we talked about last week, looking at this bike, I think we're trying to, they're trying
15:14to get new riders into that ADV space and then help bring them, bring them through the lineups.
15:21And I think this thing looks, I think it looks really cool actually. I've never ridden the
15:25G310, but this looks like a proper upgrade. Well, I don't think it's an upgrade. It's just,
15:31it's just splitting the difference between the G310 GS product and then the F850 900 product,
15:39I believe. That's a good point. Yeah. I'll be curious. What do you, what do you guys
15:42thought? Do you think this is going to be like a replacement for it or for the G310?
15:45I think the G310 will stay. I mean, that's like a 30 something horsepower bike. This is almost 50.
15:52This may be filling in the space that was originally had the, the 650s or Taos and
15:57things like that in there. You know what I mean? This is maybe taking that space.
16:01And what I really like about it though, is it looks like a big GS, like it has the same styling
16:07as the 1300. Now the 900 looks actually out of place. Like it's like, you're like, where's the
16:13beak on the 900 that you see on the other two bikes? I really liked the way the 900 looks,
16:17but now it seems out of place. So, but I'm excited to ride the thing. I would say that maybe
16:26showing how hardcore that they're going with the videos and all that stuff.
16:29I really wish it would have had a 21 inch front wheel. Yeah.
16:33But you love their 1917 combo.
16:35They do love their 1917 combo for sure. So maybe it's splitting the difference and,
16:42you know, I mean, GSs are always capable off-road even with the 17 and 19. So that's just me
16:49and my hardcore dirt nerd wanting something even more hardcore, right?
16:55What about, what about KTM that they did more KTM things of like having bikes there,
17:00not really talking about it, but then like, so I'm talking about new 990 RCR,
17:06new KTM sport bike, had it on display at EICMA, even sent us some videos with like walkarounds
17:14and stuff. And we're like, oh, we're not going to talk about this bike, but then you go on their
17:17website and they've got a full model page with like horsepower numbers and some, you know,
17:23some, at least some discussion on some specs, at least, you know, looking at the suspension
17:29that they're going to have on, obviously it's going to be the WP stuff, but it's like so hard
17:33to understand where they're at. I mean, they say this bike is coming next year. And I mean,
17:40obviously you saw it on display. It looked like it's ready to roll. But then they're like, no,
17:43we're not going to tell you anything about it just yet. Where are we at?
17:47Yeah. My take on it is it's already done. It's ready. It's ready to go to production. That's
17:54what KTM group, Peter mobility group usually does is their concepts. Most of the time are
18:01almost fully finished machines. And they're just like, it's a concept, but they're just
18:06kind of stringing you along until they can start production on it. So I think it it's pretty much
18:12there. It's ready to go. I think if this project would have been started a year later, we wouldn't
18:18ever see this bike considering the recent news of some financial, uh, I would say difficulties
18:27with KTM. Yeah. You know, there are a lot of doom and gloom out there for those folks. Yeah,
18:32yeah, definitely. You know, they're, they're looking for an injection. They said in the
18:38hundreds of millions of dollars. So which will probably come from Bajaj would be my guess, but
18:46who knows, but I think, uh, you know, they were very much against building a sport bike for quite
18:52a while and then now they're doing it and we're lucky that they did it before the current financial
18:58doom and gloom, because I think this bike would not have made it if it had been started later.
19:03So yeah, I'm excited to see it. I think it, I think it'll be, I mean, I've always enjoyed KTM
19:09sport bikes from the past, so yeah, I'm optimistic. Uh, so the things we do know about this bike,
19:15uh, they're saying about 128 horsepower, I think, uh, 76 pound feet of torque right in that range.
19:21So, and they're, they're very clear. They say this is built for what we're all calling now
19:26next gen super sport, kind of the modern era of super sports, um, you know, mid displacement,
19:33maybe a little bit street oriented. I think this one will be a lot less street oriented than new
19:37Panigale, new R nine, things like that. I think it'll be it's KTM. So it's going to be pretty
19:41aggro. Yeah. It's not going to be as aggro as the, um, the RC eight C obviously, um, which is
19:49like just a full on race bike, limited numbers. Um, but I think it's going to be the return of
19:57a KTM sport bike that should be pretty rad, even if it is 128 horsepower and 76 foot pounds of
20:05torque, it's going to be light. It's going to have arrow. I think it's going to be pretty
20:08aggressive still. Yeah. I think like we talked about with Ducati, um, what Ducati does so well
20:14right now, especially is taking everything they're learning and racing and applying it to the
20:18production bikes. I think KTM is doing a really good job of that too. And I think you see that a
20:22lot in this bike, maybe not as much as, you know, a Panigale V4 or something like that, but especially
20:28in terms of aerodynamics, I know that was the one thing they have talked a lot about is aerodynamics.
20:32Obviously you see what they're doing in GP. They've been, you know, pushing the boundaries
20:36and arrow there and they're applying that to these bikes. So I like that. I think it's,
20:40I think that's what sport bikes are all about, right? It's about, they go racing to develop
20:45these technologies and apply it to the production bikes. And, uh, yeah, I think the end consumer,
20:50we, we benefit from that. So yeah, that's, that's always been KTM's jam, you know, learning from
20:55racing, putting it into, to what they're, they're currently doing along with some innovation
21:01mechanically usually. So yeah. But speaking of mechanical innovation,
21:06let's talk about Honda's V3 engine that they debuted it at EICMA. So they say it's a concept,
21:15it's a, uh, a V3. So it's got two in the two cylinders in the front, one on the back,
21:21and it is electrically supercharged. So it's, uh, you know, uh, a round blower type
21:28setup. It's not like a roots type of setup, centrifugal supercharger that's powered
21:34electrically, which should make some radness in terms of being able to produce power wherever
21:41they want because they don't have to wait for the engine to spin up to power a supercharger or power
21:46a turbocharger. Like they can just have the airbox boosted before the bikes, the throttles even
21:53cracked, which is they could have massive, massive low end power with something like that.
21:58Even just the V3 setup as, as a, in general is, is pretty cool to see. I mean, super unique,
22:03obviously you're going to have the benefits of it being a little bit narrower. We just really
22:06haven't seen anything on a production side, especially in the four-stroke world. I mean,
22:11obviously a lot of old GP bikes, so you had a lot of two-stroke race bikes where you had
22:15set up, but yeah, we just haven't seen it. So it'd be interesting to see how they apply it to a
22:19production bike, which yeah, I think you mentioned, or I've at least I've heard that they do plan on
22:24putting this in a production bike at some point, right? Yeah, that's what they said. I'll read a
22:28quote, but I want to ask Adam what he thinks this engine will end up in first. Well, I sure hope it's
22:36in a Honda Goldwing. That would be really awesome. 2028 Honda Goldwing. A mini, a mini wing. I guess
22:45the six-cylinder purists would probably be upset, but I think a forced induction V3 would be cool
22:51and economical. Yeah. So I'd say the Goldwing, that would be awesome. Okay. I would say some
22:57sort of light sport bike is going to be my guess, some sort of sport tour. What about you, Bradley?
23:05Yeah, I mean, it's got to be a naked bike, in my opinion, I would think. You got to show that
23:09thing. I think when you have an engine like that, that's so unique, you want to show it off and
23:13there's no better place to show off an engine than in a naked bike. Yeah. Well, I mean, okay.
23:18So that gets to the point of this electrically supercharged is that it's going to be a pretty
23:23versatile engine and we all think it's going to be good in something different, which means that
23:30they're probably going to put it in a lot of stuff. So Honda says, I'm going to quote it,
23:34so I'm going to read it here. The potential of this new direction is obvious with breathtaking
23:40possibilities in terms of models to come. Development will continue towards mass production
23:44and towards Honda's goal of enabling customers to further experience the unique joy of riding
23:49and owning a motorcycle. Pretty much they're saying, we're going to build it, we're going to
23:53put it in something and we're going to keep working on this thing. So that's going to be,
23:59I think, something really cool for Honda. We haven't seen really anything supercharged since
24:05the H2. And before that it was years and years and years going back to the eighties
24:13with some turbocharged bikes. So I'm pumped to see it. Definitely.
24:21That is the only thing they got, right? Yeah. How about those electric naked bikes that look
24:26awful production ready? The other manufacturers are pumping out electric street bikes and it
24:32looks like Honda is about ready to start here probably momentarily. Yep. And I think that's,
24:41we keep saying, oh, the EVs are cool and they do their thing and they work in their place.
24:47Do we say EVs are cool? I think they're cool. I think they're cool for urban environments and
24:53for short stints and all that stuff. Obviously they have their limitations with battery density
24:58and charging times and all that stuff. But if Honda is getting into it now,
25:05they usually don't jump into anything willy nilly on a whim, on a gamble. They don't get
25:10it. Honda does not gamble, which means they see this market as being profitable and there's a
25:18future to it. And so now they're coming out with some big motorcycles. And the first one is called
25:23the EV Fun. It's got freaking 17 inch wheels with real looking rubber on it. Proper suspension
25:33and wheels. Proper suspension. It's a big bike. It's not this commuter bike like we've been
25:37seeing, which has been a little bit of the trend. No, this looks like a full, yeah, maybe 750
25:44kind of compatible size. Yeah. Electric Hornet, basically. Yeah. It's still, you know,
25:53they're saying, you know, cruising range is like 62 miles, a hundred kilometers,
25:58still bump, bump, bump. Right. But there are people that want something to run around town,
26:05but don't want a skinny, tired mini bike, not feeling like a big motorcycle. And this feels
26:11like a big motorcycle, just like the Livewire. It's a full-size motorcycle. And there's people
26:17that want that. And for those people that want that, this thing's going to be going to be cool.
26:23It's actually funny you say that, because I will say that was one of the weird things about last
26:26year riding the Kawasaki Ninja E1 and ZE1, where it had this like full on sport bike look and feel
26:35to them. But they were really small and just like, you didn't, they were this like weird
26:42middle ground that you couldn't like really wrap your head around. You gear up completely, right?
26:46Jacket, helmet, gloves, all this stuff. And you get on this like little bike that feels like a
26:50little play bike, just like riding around. And it was, is a really weird thing to wrap your head
26:55around where I, yeah, I could see what you're saying. And I should say, I do like this trend
27:00of city bikes. I'll talk about some of the other stuff that I've ridden recently that are
27:04really cool concepts for EVs. But this going back to now like a full size motorcycle,
27:11I do like that. I'm, yeah, I'm struggling with the range. I mean, obviously it'll change. And
27:16I think we only have some numbers mentioned in a release or something, but like, yeah,
27:20what'd you say? Six, I think it's like 62 miles. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a lot. Yeah. BRP style.
27:27Yeah. Like the, the K&N BRP, same thing, right? 62 miles. And so I think product planners at this
27:35point in some of the big companies are looking at all these young guys, kids running, riding
27:41Sarans and super 73s and all that stuff. Like, you know, like, especially where you guys are
27:48at in Southern California, Irvine, you're seeing like throngs, just tons of kids riding those
27:54things to school. And eventually they're going to go, I want a bigger motorcycle. I want something
27:59bigger. Now I'm 18. What can I get? And so they're going to have these, these people that have grown
28:05up on electrics. And so they may not want to step into a, something that takes gasoline. They're
28:15used to the plugin. They're used to charging and all that stuff. This is, this is, this is
28:21the development of catching those customers and bringing them into the motorcycling world.
28:26Yeah. I, I absolutely agree with you. Yeah. I think you're spot on. And I think Adam made a
28:30good point. And the last time we talked about, you know, so much of the development of product
28:35nowadays is, is referenced in reference to the digital era. We, we were living in and people
28:40constantly on their phones, right. And used to their cell phones and yeah, we charge those,
28:44we charge all these things. Right. And same thing now that you're talking about this next
28:47generation of rider who they've grown up charging their bikes overnight or something. Right. And I
28:52think it's, it's, it is a natural, it will be a natural evolution for them much more so than it
28:58is for guys like us for sure. The last thing I will say about that is I do think that bike looks
29:04really good. I think they did a really good job. We've always, it's always interesting to see when
29:08manufacturers jump in and what they do with the design and stuff, but that's a really clean design.
29:12I hope that that kind of makes its way into the production model. It is clean for sure. That
29:19does clean looking bike, you know. Yep.
29:24Still though, is the Flying Flea C6. So Flying Flea is, it's, it's by Royal Enfield.
29:31So it's going to need an explanation. What is Flying Flea? Let's break this down.
29:36So Flying Flea is the electric brand of Royal Enfield. Flying Flea originally was a motorcycle
29:45that was dropped out of airplanes during World War II to soldiers. So via parachute, right? Via
29:53parachute. So that's where the name Flying Flea came from. Now they've applied it to electric
30:00motorcycles. So they've dropped this concept, which looks super, super finished and done also.
30:10You know, that's also a kind of an urban ride, but it's very retro and almost vintage looking.
30:18I mean, I like the shape. Adam, what's your take?
30:23I mean, it's very retro, almost Vespa-like kind of that. Like I look at it and I see
30:29old Vespa lines with the curves and stuff, but I think it's neat, you know.
30:35Yeah, it was funny. I was looking earlier today at like a head-on shot of that bike and how narrow
30:41it is. I thought that was interesting. It reminded me of the Maving RM1S, which I also got to ride
30:48this year. I really like that. I like that one, especially because you had the swappable batteries
30:53on it. I'm still a big fan of swappable batteries. This one, I believe, is not coming with a
30:57swappable setup. No, no swappable battery on this one. And they did some market research where they
31:04talked to like 5,000 people, which is a lot of people for a focus group. And they said,
31:11okay, you can have swappable batteries for this price, or you can have it cheaper and have a
31:16non-swappable. And when they were given the choice, like when they first asked them, they
31:21said, do you want swappable batteries? And everyone goes, absolutely. Yes, we want swappable batteries.
31:25Okay, well, it's going to be $1,000 more than non-swappable. I'll take the non-swappable,
31:29you know. It is what it is. Someone made a good point too about, and I hadn't really
31:36thought about this, but theft concerns with swappable stuff, which I guess is,
31:42yeah, obviously it's a potential issue. You need to make sure you're securing them
31:48in the bike, right? So if there's a left, it's not a door that can easily be,
31:52you know, opened up and those batteries stolen. It's a legitimate concern for sure.
31:59Yeah, especially in urban environments, right? Where you're going to be locking your bike up
32:02and you're going to be putting it somewhere and you're going to be leaving it all day.
32:06Like, you know, I think it's actually become a problem in some, like Taiwan and stuff. I think
32:15they have a huge electric scooter usage there and batteries are getting stolen all the time.
32:23I think that's some research for them to do that. So there's going to be a scrambler version
32:31of this as well called the S6 instead of the C6. So probably C means classic, S means scrambler.
32:38Maybe, you know, they're going to keep expanding this line, obviously. There's no words on spec.
32:45We don't know what the range is. We don't know the battery capacity. We don't know
32:48the voltage. We don't know really anything about the bike besides it looks cool. It's got this rad,
32:55you know, girder fork on it. It's very narrow. It's very stylish. That's about all we know,
33:00but Mario Vizzi from Royal Enfield, he said, quote, it'll be perfect to ride from Santa Monica
33:10from Santa Monica to Ventura and back. So doing the math on that, that's like 60 miles each way.
33:15So maybe 120 mile range, or maybe you ride it to Santa Monica at 60 miles, you charge it,
33:22and then you ride 60 miles back. Who knows what he means by that, but,
33:25you know, it gives you an idea of kind of the range that they're looking at, which, yeah,
33:30it's definitely, again, this is the trend right now that I'm seeing is a big focus on commuter
33:36bikes, which I do think is, is smart, you know, until battery technology catches up and, you know,
33:43you can, and you can balance weight and things like that. I think these lighter weight commuter
33:48bikes that, you know, just get you to and from work or something like that, you know,
33:53to and from work or something like that across the city. I think that's, that is smart. It's a
33:58smart area to focus on right now. Yeah. And we keep, we keep saying, oh, when battery density
34:03catches up, it may never catch up. And this may be the way that electrics are, is they're just,
34:09they're commuter machines and that's fine. And I think we need to separate our expectations of an
34:17electric motorcycle compared to an ice motorcycle. I think they're two different things at this
34:21point and they may always be two different things. Except for in the world of ArenaCross.
34:30You guys see that? We got, we got ice versus electrics in ArenaCross. Yeah, we do. Yeah.
34:36Starks, Starks are in there mixing it up, which is pretty cool. Which is a good transition to CF
34:43Moto concept that was shown at EICMA. And was it the CFX? That's what it is. It's called the CFX.
34:52Again, don't know a ton about it except for like most of the CF Moto stuff right now. It looks
34:59really cool. I love their colorways. I love their design language on all the bikes that they're
35:02doing. Like CF Moto is just like, oh, the gas. I'm a big fan of what they're doing right now. And
35:08in terms of their lineup. But yeah, in this case, that CFX looks cool. I'll probably hand this one
35:13over to you, Justin, because you're, you're more the dirt guy. But what are your thoughts on it?
35:19I think it looks really awesome. It looks, it looks a bit wider than,
35:27wider than the Stark down at the bottom. But other than that, I'm good with it. So
35:34I think it looks rad and it's got a 400 volt electrical system. So that's
35:42very similar to the Stark Farg. Stark Farg is 420 volts. So, and that bike makes 80 horsepower,
35:48but we don't know what the amperage is and the battery capacity. So that,
35:52we have one piece of like what I call the triangle on electric now, which is you got to know the
35:58voltage, the amperage that gives you the watts, you know, and you can figure out power and how
36:02much horsepower and all that stuff. So, but you know, WP suspension, obviously with their ties
36:07with pure mobility group, I think it looks cool. What do you think? I think it's, it's a really
36:15neat looking bike. You know, it's cool to see, you know, these manufacturers, you know, just,
36:20just putting their touch on these different types of vehicles and just really making them their own.
36:25You know, I think it's neat. Have you guys, have you guys seen, I was kind of joking about it
36:30earlier, but I do actually think that this the electric classes that they have in arena cross
36:36are pretty cool. And it's actually been pretty good battles. So, I mean, at least the season
36:40opener that we've already seen, you know, you had Josh Hill out there, you had Vince Friese on,
36:44you know, I think it was on a Honda. Yeah, I don't know. So they call it the,
36:50was it Kicker Audio Clash? So basically they have an X-Pro, which is the electric bikes class. And
36:56then they take the top two from that and they put them in this showdown basically between
37:02ice, you know, internal combustion engine bikes. And yeah, it was pretty cool. I think Josh Hill
37:06got third. He was a little far back, but I obviously the dynamic of the race is interesting
37:10because the electric bikes can jump out front. I think they get, you know, get a good start and.
37:15Yeah. And I mean, it's pretty good battles. Arena cross is much tighter than super cross, which
37:20narrows the playing field between anything. I really think like you can go almost as fast
37:27on a 250 and probably even a 125 as you can at 450 in arena cross. Just, you know, there's,
37:32it's so tight and, you know, there's some jumps that obviously you need the power for in the,
37:38you know, which makes it easier, but overall, like it's tight, tough racing that's banging.
37:44It's very, it's very much where Freezy should have had his career, to be honest,
37:49banging, banging bars. He's, you know, and he's already, he already, he already Freezy,
37:54he already Freezy'd his teammate already. Yeah. No, I know. I saw Clippy like basically
38:01cross jumped and then he like jumped over a hay bale into a corner to like, it's just like.
38:08Yeah. Yeah. Doing arena cross things, which he's always been doing, but yeah.
38:11He's always been doing so. Yeah. How cool is it that gasoline bikes, knee bikes are just,
38:18I think that's so neat. Usually you sometimes see them separated by class or category and it's just
38:23like everyone's together the way it should be. Yeah. Yeah. You have the one class. Yeah. Well,
38:29you do get to see them together and it's, it's an interesting dynamic for sure. Yeah. It's,
38:33it's definitely a test in, in parody and I think it's already kind of proved that it
38:37is pretty, pretty close. So I'm cool with that. And you see a lot of people that have ridden the
38:42Stark, like they love them as soon as they get on them and they ride them. They're just like,
38:47forget my, my 450. I'm just going to ride this thing. Seeing it more and more for sure this last
38:53year. Yeah. I've never heard anyone say anything derogatory about that product. Not one person,
39:00one person, anybody that's ridden it. I mean, there's plenty of naysayers that haven't thrown
39:04a leg over it, but once you throw a leg over it, you're like, it's almost instant conversion.
39:09If they could just do like demo rides at every motocross track in the country, they would sell
39:15so many more just because people, when they ride and they go, Oh, okay. It makes sense now. So I
39:22think the CFX concept, I hope it is a Stark competitor and we see, we see more of these bikes
39:29coming out in the future. Yeah. And let's be honest. I mean,
39:33everything we've seen from CFMoto in terms of them introducing the concept or a prototype
39:37or teasing something, they're pretty quick to get that on the market, to finalize it,
39:42get it on the market. So I would imagine we can expect to see something by next year for sure.
39:48And I hope that they're quick to come with the V4, the V.04 1000cc engine that they debuted
39:57at Ikema as well. So they also showed like a concept bike, which was basically like this,
40:03like swoopy shell of a thing, like Tron-ish winged super bike thing, which obviously
40:09says they're going to put it in a super bike obviously first. But we're talking about a 209
40:14horsepower, 14 and a half thousand RPM, 84 foot pounds of torque at 1250, 136 pound engine unit,
40:2390 degree V.4. It looks like it should be rowdy and really fun.
40:30Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I think the big takeaway for me, obviously, yeah, you just look at
40:34what the relatively limited specs and information we have on that, that new V4. It looks like
40:40CFMoto is all in on it, you know, and they're not cutting any corners. They're very serious.
40:46But I think my takeaway is just, again, seeing CFMoto playing in all of these different areas
40:54of motorcycling from the adventure bike stuff that we rode last year, which I loved, you know, IBEX,
41:00and then obviously seeing their dirt bike and then seeing some of the sport bike stuff they've done
41:05and now getting into the super bike space. They're just, again, on the gas. And I think
41:12in terms of design and technology, they're right up there. You know, it seems like they're taking
41:19it very serious. How neat is it that we can talk about, you know, V3 engines and electric
41:26superchargers and electric motorcycles to gasoline V4 prototype engines all in one,
41:34just all in one outing. It's just unbelievable the variety of, you know, powertrain options that are
41:39being developed nowadays. It's just, you know, just when you think, oh, gasoline's going away,
41:45you know, CFMoto proves that it's betting that it's not. That's a good point.
41:49Yeah. What a time to be alive as a motorcyclist, right? You got so many options. And yeah,
41:56this really does prove that, like, you know, it goes back to my point that electric and
42:02ice are two very different things and we'll probably stay that way.
42:06Companies are developing high horsepower ice engines and they're going to keep doing that.
42:11So it's not going to stop and it's, everyone's lamenting, oh, like it's, we're not going to have
42:18gasoline powered machines that make rad noises. That's not going to go away for a very, very,
42:24very long time. It's a good point. Good point. And you, you know, a little bit, you've obviously
42:30heard some rumors about an actual production bike, right? So they have like, what, uh,
42:34a little 1000 SR or something like that? SRR, uh, anticipated 2026. There's not
42:42obviously a lot of details, but I think that's, you know, with the, the master of speed concept
42:49body thing that they showed, I think they're giving some hints to what is going to be like,
42:56they're going to have winglets and it's going to be, uh, you know, uh, maybe they're going to go
43:01racing, maybe they're going to go world super bike or something. Who knows, you know, that way.
43:05Right. I mean, it sure seems like that's the path they're on. And again, that's what I think is so
43:09cool about what CFMoto is doing right now is they're just building a little bit of everything.
43:14They're playing in every space and doing it quickly. Right. They're not like, oh, we're
43:19going to be in this space for a while. And then we'll move into this space. It's just like
43:23rapid fire of moving a product along in the business alone. Yeah, definitely being,
43:28being, uh, partnered up with being a mobility group has helped accelerate that, you know, I
43:33mean, they've taken some engines from KTM and put them in some of their models, which gives them,
43:39you know, like the, the new IBIS 800 and those types of things.
43:45But they're also learning from KTM and they're learning that development and pushing the
43:51boundaries is what's going to put them ahead. And I think you really see that starting to happen.
43:56And, you know, um, I think even, even seeing comments on, on the websites and stuff in
44:05people five years ago about CFMoto to now, you know, oh, it was Chinese junk. You see that
44:11less and less and less, and you start seeing people go, that thing's cool.
44:15I like that. I'm interested in that. And I think they're breaking through.
44:20They're going to be the first to break through that. We'll say stigma of being a Chinese
44:24manufacturer. Yeah. Good point. Adam, have you seen a lot on the road? I know over here in,
44:29in Irvine, I've seen a handful of the CFMoto sport bikes naked bike.
44:36I haven't seen any CFMoto products on the street, but I went to a local power sports dealership the
44:41other day and they had the CFMoto 450 sport bike motorcycle there. You know, they had quite a
44:48number of them there and, you know, I was checking them out with their Brembo brakes and, you know,
44:53their, their, uh, LCD, big LCD screen. And I just asked for the sales guys. I'm like,
44:58how are these things moving? Cause he had a bunch. He's like, Oh man. He's like,
45:01these things are selling. He's like, he's like this CFMoto 450 motorcycle. We sell, you know,
45:07four to one versus a Kawasaki Ninja or four to one versus a Honda, you know, CBR. So it's just,
45:14you know, people are, apparently people are really liking just the price point. And that,
45:20that product comes with, you know, really good value as far as the features and benefits,
45:24like those Brembo brakes and that color TFT screen where, you know, Kawasaki offers it,
45:30but it's, you know, double the price almost, you know, 150% more.
45:35So what did it look like? Like, how was it in terms of like, just when you,
45:38the presence on the showroom floor, is it like a good looking motorcycle?
45:43I don't know. I mean, you know, appearance is so subjective to everyone, you know, for me,
45:49you know, I didn't, I wasn't super pumped on the look of it, you know, kind of looked like
45:53generic to me, but in the world we live in, people aren't so brand agnostic anymore,
45:59brand loyal anymore, the more brand agnostic where they don't really care about, you know,
46:05you know, what brand it is, as long as it has the features they want and the price is good.
46:10And it looks reasonably well, people are generally into that. So I think it's kind of fitting
46:14in that, you know, you know, culture of commerce, but personally, I don't really
46:20think they look cool at all. Okay, fair. Yeah. I mean, that's a, that's a good point about
46:25the culture of commerce and it's, it's becoming more global, right? And I think that's one of
46:29the things too, is in other markets, these things are definitely selling like hotcakes and, you know,
46:37where people are definitely, definitely can be more
46:40price conscious. That's where CFMotos is going to make their mark is through price consciousness.
46:47And, and so while in the U.S. that might not matter now, if we continue to see this trend
46:53of slowing sales and, you know, who knows what's going to happen with the economy,
46:58you may see CFMoto take a bigger leap forward with cheaper motorcycles. Yeah.
47:03MSRP of that, the MSRP of that 450, it's like five or $6,000. Like if I remember correctly,
47:10it's, it's got a very, very favorable price point. Very favorable.
47:16So last kind of concept bike, maybe not even a concept bike, we saw a wheel of it.
47:23The, what is it? The KLE, the Kawasaki KLE. Yeah. A bike in a box. Bike in a box. It was
47:30the front, the front wheel sticking out of a box. You could kind of see the engine.
47:35KLE, that's an old Kawasaki model. It was a dual sport ish model before the KLX, basically. So,
47:48you know, had a 21 inch front wheel, had some long forks on it. And the engine had two head pipes
47:54that are very much shaped the same as those on the Eliminator 500 and bikes like that. So probably
48:01going to be a parallel twin adventure bike. That's more aggressive than the current versus 300 that
48:06they have now, which has kind of just been left in the dust in terms of the way that that market
48:12has gone. And just to explain it a little bit more, basically, it was a display at EICMA,
48:16right? It was a box and it just had the front wheel sticking out of a box. So it was a
48:22and it just had the fork and front wheel like kind of popping out of the box, right?
48:27Like crashing out of the box and the rider's head was sticking out of the top of the box.
48:31So it was like it was like it's being released, but not yet.
48:35Yeah. And so that's all we know about. We know basically a name, essentially, kind of. And
48:42yeah, we have an idea by looking at, you know, the fork and wheel, what they're trying to do,
48:45where they're going. But otherwise we know nothing about what this will be.
48:49Yeah. Not much else. So maybe we'll see it. Go ahead, Adam. Sorry.
48:55It would be cool if Kawasaki made a parallel twin powered power plant for an adventure bike. Like,
49:01you know, they've been missing out for I mean, the KLR is a great bike, no doubt, but
49:06kind of missing out on that, you know, true middleweight adventure touring segment.
49:11Very much so. But I think if hopefully Kawasaki won't get rid of the KLR. Otherwise,
49:17you may have the faithful at the front doors with pitchforks and torches.
49:22Yeah, no, we don't want that bike to go away. That bike's an awesome bike for the price.
49:26Yeah. So here's here's one that I think Adam might find fun. It's not really a concept either.
49:35Peugeot's R1300GS track bike. So they built this this track bike out of a new R1300GS with like a
49:43front cowl and some winglets and a 17 inch front wheel. What do you think?
49:49I think it looks like the Hans Muth Katana from, you know, the 80s. So you know, and that was a
49:56cool bike back then. But we all know how how Suzuki did it with its Katana remake in America.
50:03So yeah, I don't think this thing will be so hot in America, but it looks cool.
50:07It looks it looks really fun, to be honest. I mean,
50:13for just a track day warrior, someone that wants to just like torque out of the corners
50:16everywhere. I think it looks it looks really fun. So it's basically probably they're going to offer
50:24it as a kit. I don't think you're going to buy a bike whole but and then again, we may never see
50:30anything more than this, you know, might just be a flexing of Peugeot's aero muscle, you know,
50:39with all the windshields and stuff like that. But I would like to talk about it. And we talked
50:44about in the last episode, but it looks like KTM still one up them with their, you know,
50:49super adventure, you know, track riding press kit, you know.
50:53Yeah, that is true. Yeah, they are, you know, they're just super adventure as Evo and
50:57as just on the track, just going for leathers, you're just like,
51:03who goes adventure touring and leathers, but no special kit required. Yeah, no special kit
51:08required to you just buy that one. So yeah, anyway, um, so that kind of wraps up our
51:16our concept talk. But there's one more question I want to ask. And that is, if you were a designer
51:24or a product manager or a manufacturer, concept bike, what would you build? Like what would you
51:31bring to Aikman next year? Let's start with Adam. Well, you know, it's obvious that everyone's
51:38really into the small and mid sized, you know, naked bikes and small and mid sized, you know,
51:45you know, just bikes. So I mean, honestly, it's cool to see BMW Motorrad filling in the gap,
51:52you know, between the 310 and the, you know, 850 900 with with this 450 concept. So I think it'd
51:59be cool just to see more. I know, we already have too many models almost, but it'd be cool to see
52:05more of those little gaps being filled by, you know, just these, you know, small and mid
52:10displacement models just, you know, inserted in these different displacement categories.
52:16You know, I mean, Kawasaki is kind of doing it, you know, punching out the Ninja 300 400 500,
52:21you know, to get a Ninja 550. But it's not a 600 foot bigger than a 500. So I think, you know,
52:28just more of those, you know, just mid displacement, you know, gap motorcycles. I think that's neat.
52:35Yeah, that's, that's very smart of you. Actually, that's a, you should go work for a manufacturer.
52:43That was, you know, not what I was expecting to come out of Adam, I was expecting something with
52:47like, extra rockets, and, you know, a supercharger for the rockets. So I mean, we all want that.
52:55We all want that stuff. But the reality is no one's no one's purchasing those those vehicles.
53:00No, very true. Right on. So Bradley, how about you? I'm gonna go the opposite direction and
53:07answer in a way that doesn't make sense because no one is buying these right now. But
53:12as a sport bike guy, I would love to see a proper middleweight sport bike. So a fully modern GSXR
53:19600 750. I get what's going on in the space right now with again, these next gen, these softer,
53:26softer, you know, super sports that are more street oriented, but I have to imagine there's
53:31still people out there that want a proper middleweight sport bike, you know, that's full
53:39bore, great chassis, you know, and evolution, you know, basically looking at their leader bike,
53:43brother and, and bringing it into the middleweight space. I mean, as an example, you know, again,
53:50Adam and I were out at the track this week, riding 1000s, you know, an R1 a CBR 1000. It's
53:56like, you got to really commit on those things, right? And it's like, you're signing up for
54:01something when you get on this. And it's just like, I love a middleweight, you know, it's not
54:06quite as, you know, as much work, right. But at the same time, I don't I don't want a street
54:12oriented thing that's got, you know, maybe even different bar position, or the engine is more
54:16tuned for street riding, I want proper super sport bike like I grew up on. So yeah, I would,
54:22I still will argue that there's a need for those bikes. And I would think that there are enough
54:27track people out there that that would buy them. Maybe that's just me. Well, being hopeful, but
54:33I think, I think you'll get, we'll get back to those in five to 10 years. Because we're like,
54:40all these middleweight sport bikes right now are seem like they're kind of priced down,
54:46they're more simple, they're more comfortable. But displacement creep happens, tech creep happens,
54:52start pumping up, pumping up, pumping up. And eventually, we're gonna be back to like,
54:55just super gnarly focus super sports. So I think that's something we could talk about in a future
55:00future episode is middleweight sport bikes, where they're going, what we like about them,
55:04all the things that are happening with them now. So I think we'll stop on that we'll get to my bike.
55:10Right now, rally car rallies about to kick off in a couple months. So I got rally on the brain,
55:18as I usually do anyways. But I think there's there's more interest in rally than ever before.
55:24And I think that there needs to be a production rally bike. That's not a $50,000 KTM, but it's
55:33also not a $10,000 Kobe, like a $20,000. We'll say like a KTM 500 EXCF with a tower and a bigger
55:41fuel tank. That's like 18 ish $1,000 I think would be a killer street legal, all the suspension
55:49travel, you know, all that stuff. And then people can do what they want with it, whether they can
55:54imagine that they're, they're a rally racer, or they can make it a hardcore dual sport slash
56:03adventure. I don't know. But it seems like there's a space for that. And rally bikes just look cool,
56:08the shape of them is cool. And I think the showroom president presence of them would
56:13just sell them just on that. Yeah. Who do you think the customer is for that? Is that a dual
56:18sport rider owner who's looking for a little bit more performance in long haul? Or is it like an
56:22adventure rider who's like, I like this sense of exploration, but I need something more hardcore?
56:29Yes. Yeah, yeah. Everyone. Everyone. Actually, I just want it for me. All right. I want that
56:37bike for me. I don't care if they sell one and it's to me to make the thing. So that would be
56:43cool. Fun to dream about these things. But yeah, again, I think I think the cool thing, I think the
56:49big takeaways here, obviously, a lot of concept bikes at EICMA, obviously, it's where manufacturers
56:53can make the biggest splash and show where they're heading. But the big takeaway, again, was that
56:59in a lot of cases, it was like, yes, this is a concept, but we are coming to market with this.
57:03And in a lot of times, they were saying, we aren't going to change the product very much. I think
57:07concept bikes can usually evolve quite a bit. But the stuff that we saw this year was looked
57:13like final product almost, you know? Yeah, I think that's, that's the big takeaway from
57:17this is that this is just a sneak preview of 2026 models. And that's what we're going to
57:24be looking at next year. So I'm excited for it. I know everybody else is. So yeah.
57:33I think that's it for this one. I think we need to wrap it up.
57:36We're bumping up right on our time frame of an hour. So you guys listening, I know that you guys
57:44have your own thoughts on one or ideas on concept bikes on MotoGP. Put your comments down below,
57:51let us know what you're thinking. And if you have something you want us to talk about,
57:56put in the comments as well. We'll check it out and we'll try to work it into an upcoming podcast.
58:02We appreciate your support. Thanks for listening. And we'll see you in the next episode.