👉 Pampita y la china se encontraron en un evento y se saludaron y abrazaron.Tras la revelación de chats privados en el programa de Susana Giménez por parte de Nara, las mujeres podrían hacer una denuncia penal.
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00:00like a top three, which is Wanda, La China, and Pampita.
00:04Of course, of course, with Pampita on top.
00:06Pampita on top.
00:07Pampita on top, but she was in all this mess because Wanda added her.
00:11Wanda, when she was in the armchair chatting with Susana Jiménez,
00:15who performed very well.
00:16Who is she going for now? I think she's going for Tini.
00:18Suspectly Susana for the next ones, because she's performing very well.
00:21And I saw a promo that is going to be a note,
00:23Susana at this age, with artificial intelligence,
00:26with Susana de la Mari,
00:28because it's the 50th anniversary of the film.
00:31Of course, Maradona did it, do you remember?
00:33On the night of the 10th, there was no artificial intelligence,
00:35but Diego interviewed her.
00:36As it was Diego's reportage, it will be Susana's reportage.
00:39CGPT will be in the middle, and all artificial intelligence,
00:41so that it comes out well.
00:42Will Susana read the questions in artificial intelligence too?
00:45I don't know.
00:46Anyway, Susana is total genius.
00:47But hey, in Susana's living room,
00:49a mess was created when Wanda grabbed the phone
00:51and showed Susana old chats that Wanda had had
00:55with La China Suarez when they were friends.
00:57Before this link with Icardi appeared
01:00and exploded more than three years ago.
01:03Of course, the situation was to see what the reaction was.
01:05On the one hand, La China, who was supposed to come to justice,
01:08because it's part of her intimacy and her image
01:10and her care of what were totally intimate and private conversations.
01:14And what was Pampita going to say?
01:16That in this fight between the two of them,
01:17they had nothing to do with each other,
01:19that she was looking at her from the side,
01:20that she had already had to answer about her separation.
01:22Well, how did they return with this image that we are observing?
01:25Yesterday, in an event, in an eccentric shopping mall,
01:27also very visited by tourists.
01:29Hugs, La China and Pampita.
01:32Pampita who understands everything too, right?
01:33Yes, of course.
01:34Pampita who understands everything.
01:35She handles her brand and her figure like no one else.
01:37Now I ask you, Deborah,
01:39spreading private chats, is it a crime?
01:43Yes, do you remember back in March when I told you,
01:45be careful, don't resend the chats that are sent to you,
01:48because you can't resend the chats.
01:51The chats were assimilated to the private correspondence
01:54and have constitutional protection.
01:57Is there jurisprudence for that, Deborah?
01:58Yes, and there are oral courts dedicated specifically
02:02to everything that is disclosure of private correspondence.
02:06And is there a sentence?
02:07Is there a leading case?
02:08Yes, yes, and I made a trial.
02:10Well, you know that technically the chat is a social network.
02:13Of course.
02:14But beyond that it is a social network.
02:16But of course, for justice it is private correspondence.
02:18Yes, and I add something else to you.
02:19Today it even has the value of a contract,
02:21if you put yes, I accept.
02:22Totally.
02:23If you put a judgment, the thumb up, do you remember?
02:25Of course.
02:26In fact, I think you asked me back in March,
02:29if I make a WhatsApp contract and I put yes, it's ok,
02:33does it have legal value?
02:35I said yes, totally.
02:36I repeat myself in the questions.
02:37But no, you follow the same line,
02:39because in reality people don't remember in March.
02:43There are people who don't know,
02:44who think that if I put yes on WhatsApp, we'll see later.
02:47No, you're forced, you're forced.
02:48And in addition, the mails also have a binding force,
02:53because the reality is that the letter no longer exists.
02:55No, of course.
02:56So, the gun correspondence that the national constitution says
02:59was assimilated with the change of technology to the chats,
03:04to everything, it could even end up
03:07a jurisprudence on conversations on Instagram.
03:11Ah, well.
03:12Because in reality it has to go too.
03:14The Instagram chat you say, the private part.
03:15Of course.
03:16Can China only go against Huanda or Pampita too?
03:19Because there they were also talking about her
03:21and situations that were closed doors,
03:23I mean, both.
03:24I think Article 248 of the Penal Code has an important penalty,
03:28that is, the dissemination and dissemination,
03:30more here because it has to do with privacy.
03:33That is, two crimes are counted,
03:36the issue of the dissemination of private correspondence
03:38and the violation of privacy.
03:40So I think it will continue to happen
03:43because everyone will continue to share the chats,
03:46but it would be good for people to take it into account.
03:49I have a question.
03:50Do you share when you resend and when you capture?
03:54Also, it's the same.
03:55It's the same?
03:56It's the same, it's worse,
03:57because you are actually transforming it into a capture.
04:00The image, the right of the image is also there in the middle.
04:03So what you are doing,
04:04you are giving it the value of a document.
04:06As is.
04:07I remember that in some applications,
04:09I even warned you,
04:10if I sent you a message,
04:11if you made a capture,
04:12there was a message of that situation.
04:15Of care.
04:16Of care.
04:17They just captured a conversation you had.
04:20Justice is still a bit reluctant
04:23to give a course to this type of action
04:26because they understand that the dissemination,
04:28to what extent is to disseminate.
04:30But if you, for example,
04:31put in a judicial file,
04:33which can be one of Wanda's intentions,
04:36a chat of this characteristic,
04:39the person who is a victim
04:41of intrusion into their privacy
04:43can report it criminally.
04:45But as if it were proof?
04:47It's proof.
04:48Because this chat is nothing.
04:49It's proof.
04:50But I'm still saying,
04:51but it's an intimate conversation of theirs,
04:53of the judicial part,
04:54of what happens between Cardi and her.
04:56It's also proof.
04:57But it's also proof.
04:58All massive chats,
04:59I use it in courts.
05:01If I need to prove something
05:03and I manifest that this existed
05:05and I have the chat,
05:06I use it as proof.
05:08Even to buy land.
05:10Who is going to judge who?
05:12China Suarez, after what happened.
05:14Because everyone shows the chat,
05:16everyone is going around everywhere.
05:18What happens is that here you have to have a point.
05:21Pampita, who is beyond,
05:22who has lived much more serious situations,
05:24understands what is happening.
05:26Remember that both China and Pampita
05:29have children with Benjamin Vicuña.
05:31They are brothers, they are family.
05:33We have to talk about school,
05:35parties, birthdays.
05:37And it happened.
05:38What happened, I don't forget it.
05:40But of course, it could generate a current problem.
05:43I despise Pampita.
05:45It is China that is going to face a trial
05:48or a lawsuit, at least for what was the disclosure.
05:51Not only did Susana show it.
05:53Later, those same chats that Susana showed her
05:55and that Susana read,
05:56then she took out the phone,
05:57appeared on social networks.
05:59It was for more, it was nothing more.
06:01I show you, look what they send me here.
06:03And you read it.
06:04Well, was it true or a lie?
06:05Well, that was already published on social networks.
06:07And who shared it?
06:09Against Wanda.
06:10Against Wanda.
06:11Against Wanda.
06:12Initially against Wanda.
06:13What Pampita did was learn a lot
06:16about the need to unite the family.
06:18And of these disruptive families with China
06:21and suddenly Vicuña in the middle.
06:23He left aside the hatred, the quarrel
06:25or resentment of the children.
06:27Remember, Deborah, that Susana,
06:30with the quarrel she generates,
06:32supposedly representing many women,
06:34tilde to García Moritández,
06:36I don't remember what term he used.
06:37Stupid.
06:38Stupid, yes.
06:39And Pampita, kind of like ...
06:41No, he stopped her.
06:42Because we are going to be a family, always.
06:45With a lot of class, he told her,
06:46I ask you not to tell him that,
06:48because we are a family.
06:50In fact, I thought there were a lot of parties
06:52that they shared when they were with Roberto.
06:54They played soccer together, Benjamín and Roberto.
06:57For a long time they played with one of the children.
06:59I say, generate that, because life goes on
07:02and each one goes in his own direction.
07:04Another point.
07:05Are you invoicing the three?
07:07They don't stop with this, I mean ...
07:09History, history.
07:13Do you know that phrase?
07:14Paris is worth a mass?
07:15Make my judgment,
07:16that in total I am still collecting
07:17and it is enough for me to say
07:18that Shakira is the woman,
07:19she does not cry,
07:20the woman invoices.
07:21Because it's okay,
07:22a judgment is sent here.
07:23I call it the Shakira ideology.
07:26Lucio, show Michel that we both invoiced with this.
07:29Nothing happens.
07:30They are going to get bored.
07:32We are talking about soccer, the four of us.
07:34What is good is that they preserve the boys.
07:36Do you understand?
07:37But Debora, sorry,
07:38with this media exposure,
07:39they don't preserve anything.
07:41Pampita did.
07:42Yes, Pampita did.
07:43What boys are they going to preserve?
07:45That would be an example to take into account.
07:46That the television,
07:47that the social networks,
07:48that the portals,
07:49I ask you to take it.
07:50Who would not be preserving the boys here?
07:52No, no,
07:53it seems to me that the precautionary measure
07:55does not allow us,
07:56but let's say that the last event
07:59of the farándula,
08:00that has to go to the portals.
08:02You are a child and you see through social networks
08:05or through portals,
08:06the miseries, fights, infidelities,
08:09and discussions of your family.
08:11There is no preservation.
08:13But Lucio, that's why I asked you.
08:15I asked Debora.
08:16You have to preserve the boys,
08:18but if one of these people,
08:20or another,
08:21on their Instagram,
08:23posts a photo with those boys,
08:25can I use it later?
08:26No.
08:27On television?
08:28No.
08:29First there may be the precautionary measure.
08:30Beyond the social network.
08:31Beyond the right to the children.
08:32The lawyer.
08:33The right to the children.
08:34No, no, but there is a precautionary measure.
08:35And Wanda Nara said,
08:36it does not matter the precautionary measure,
08:38I pay you the sanction that corresponds
08:41in Susana's program,
08:43because I did hear about my children.
08:45Wanda charged 18 thousand dollars
08:47for that note with Susana.
08:49She said she was going to donate it
08:50to the San Isidro hospital.
08:51And now,
08:52I was talking to Wanda's lawyer,
08:53she says they are waiting,
08:54she did not receive any notification
08:56from China Suarez,
08:57Dr. Guadalupe Alebo Guerrero.
09:00Is she a partner of his?
09:02No, they are from the Pajarola studio,
09:04they have fired Dr. Ana Rosenfeld,
09:08who represented her,
09:10I do not know where Ana is,
09:11but today,
09:12all the representation of Wanda
09:14is from the Pajarola studio,
09:15and the doctor says,
09:16we have not received anything yet.
09:17But they are not focused
09:19on the trial,
09:20the claim that China can make to them,
09:21but on the trial they have with Mauro Icardi,
09:24especially on the issue
09:25of the tenancy of the boys.
09:26Mauro Icardi now told me,
09:27Dr. Guerrero, Guadalupe Guerrero,
09:29that they are going to put
09:30a well-known criminal lawyer,
09:33he does not want to tell me the name,
09:34I'm waiting to know what it is,
09:35to determine what is missing.
09:38Because the separation of assets is done.
09:40Yes, but it is the tenancy.
09:41It is the tenancy,
09:42let's say,
09:43what was the exclusion of the home.
09:44And besides,
09:45can Icardi take this
09:46to the Turkish states?
09:47Yes, he will do it.
09:48Surely yes,
09:49because the seat of the
09:50Conjuval home was there.
09:51There it is.
09:53The seat of the Conjuval home is there.
09:54And there they are going to have
09:55a big problem of jurisdiction,
09:56because for me the Turkish judge is competent.
09:59And what is going to be Wanda?
10:01And Wanda is going to have to move to Turkey
10:05or is going to have to reach an agreement
10:07of a visitation regime like the people.
10:09A justice a little less feminist
10:11than here, than Argentina.
10:12Well,
10:13Argentine justice is feminist.
10:15But let's take into account one thing,
10:17that here we must always preserve
10:18the interests of the minor
10:19and the contact of the minor with the father.
10:21Of course.
10:22So,
10:23it seems spectacular to me that Icardi
10:24has hired a criminal lawyer
10:26because this front that Wanda has already opened
10:29with the eviction and with the complaint
10:32in the police station,
10:33opens the criminal forum.
10:35A front that went backwards
10:37because the doctors of the Pallarola study
10:40said that they were not going to advance
10:42with the criminal case,
10:43but now the criminal case is advanced by Mauro,
10:46hiring a criminal lawyer
10:49and will go for everything, let's say.
10:51For all the situation that occurred
10:53in relation also to what happened
10:54from the restaurant,
10:56which now I do not remember what it is called.
10:57Gardiner.
10:58Gardiner.
10:59From now on,
11:00all that is instances that go to the court.
11:02And apart from that,
11:03one thing can also happen,
11:04because there is a situation
11:06that can be the impediment of contact.
11:08That is a criminal law.
11:09That is,
11:10if Wanda arrives or any woman
11:13arrives to prevent the contact
11:15of her children with her father,
11:17it can be...
11:18Yes, there is the...
11:19Yes, but it's not going to happen.
11:20It's not going to happen.
11:21Wanda does not want.
11:22It's not going to happen.
11:23I hope not.