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00:00Assalamu Alaikum, I am Muhammad Malik and you are watching Khabar Lahariya's
00:29Far From Earth is still going on on 24th November.
00:3414 new cases have been filed against Mr. Imran Khan and you can see that.
00:38Today, interestingly, he has formed a five-member committee that will talk to the government on three points.
00:44One is that we want a Judicial Commission.
00:47On 26th November, there are serious allegations that 12 of our people have been killed,
00:52hundreds of people have been arrested, thousands may be missing, and the government is lying in the matter.
00:57The matter will be discussed in the committee.
01:00The political prisoners, the issues of May 9th, and the issues of May 9th,
01:08so this committee was formed, but interestingly, Umar Ayub was also arrested,
01:13who is the leader of the opposition.
01:15He had gone to Odiala to meet, he was arrested.
01:17There were two or three more people with him.
01:19A former minister, Raja Bisharat, and a few others were also arrested.
01:23So far, the information has been that the judge has asked the terrorism court to release them,
01:28but it is not yet confirmed whether they have been released or not.
01:32They were detained at Odiala Jail.
01:35The stance of the opposition is that we have been kept in the prison.
01:39This is the development of the opposition.
01:41On the other hand, the meeting of the formation commanders conference has also been announced by the SPR.
01:50It is a very strict wording, and there is a discussion about it in a different way.
01:55There is no doubt that the upcoming judges will be very strict.
02:01Although no one has any objection to the fake news,
02:06but everyone is concerned about what will happen to the rest of the judges,
02:10who are misused in this country and are abused of power.
02:14This has a direct link with freedom of speech and the right of information to the public.
02:22In any case, I will share some of its wording with you.
02:25It is said in Alami that the forum, which was set up by the Pak Force,
02:32because of the tour and other reasons,
02:35did very scary and poisonous propaganda.
02:38The propaganda is based on the previous propaganda,
02:41which is based on the previous propaganda,
02:44which is based on the previous propaganda,
02:47which is based on the previous propaganda,
02:50which is based on the previous propaganda,
02:53which is based on the previous propaganda,
02:56which is based on the previous propaganda,
02:59which is based on the previous propaganda,
03:02which is based on the previous propaganda,
03:05This is a strong point in Urdu,
03:08but when you hear it in English,
03:11then you feel its intensity.
03:14It is written in Urdu that it is imperative.
03:16If you say it is important, then it's okay.
03:18The meaning of imperative is necessary.
03:21There is no choice in this, it is a clear construction.
03:24It is imperative that the government should promulgate and implement
03:27it is imperative that the government should promulgate and implement
03:31that in the name of freedom of expression, poison, lies and polarization is being done
03:37and to end this and spreading fake news for vested political interest, political slash financial interest
03:44I think there will be a reference of vloggers that they earn from social media
03:48so catch them and bring them to justice
03:51this is another thing that laws are already there, everything can be done in this
03:55this is another thing that since this web management system has been installed in the internet
03:59we showed this yesterday as well
04:01the government has all those technical things
04:05through which they can tell where the incoming data is from, what is the outgoing data
04:10who wrote what, where did it come from, what did they post
04:13so this slowing down of the web and banning of X
04:17this is basically a political decision
04:20where there is a PTI and a statement of the opposition
04:23Imran Khan and PTI
04:25the government has failed to make a counter statement, it has been a year
04:29but the statements, whatever they throw, they can only be felt
04:33so it seems that in the name of national security, the government is being hidden
04:39where these statements could not make a counter
04:42so a political counter narrative is being countered by administrative means
04:47how will it work, we will talk about it later
04:49secondly, we have been talking for 3-4 days that
04:52things are going on, very interesting
04:54we are hearing a new narrative in Islamabad
04:57that there should be an all-inclusive politics
05:00in which everyone should be included
05:02the word of national unity is coming
05:04and usually national unity starts and ends with the government
05:08then we saw that Faisal Wabda suddenly became active
05:11we are all familiar with Faisal Wabda's friends
05:15so there is a special angle in that
05:18he became active, he met Bilawal Bhutto
05:21then after Bilawal Bhutto, he met Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
05:24then Bilawal Bhutto met Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
05:28then suddenly, two prominent ticket holders of Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan
05:35who had taken thousands of votes
05:37they suddenly joined Bilawal Bhutto
05:41now if you look at the views of People's Party
05:44if you look at the views of Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan
05:46then there is no value in them except for friends
05:49that is very interesting and I have heard that more people are coming there
05:52then there are reports that
05:55some developments are happening that if the political map changes
05:59then can there be a structure of national unity
06:03in which with Imran Khan's consent
06:05in the first phase, PTI should also be included
06:07even though it is a very premature time to talk
06:10but this is what happens in politics
06:12talks go on and then you get to know some things
06:14that the dots that were scattered left and right
06:17have become a line
06:19so that will also be an interesting topic
06:21and let me first introduce my guest
06:23then I would like to tell you a short story
06:25and that is a very interesting story
06:27Mr. Javed has joined us in the studio
06:29thank you very much, Mr. Hussain Baig is with us
06:31thank you very much
06:33in a while, Mr. Salman Akram Raja will join us
06:35we will also hear from him
06:37in fact, Mr. Salman has joined us
06:39Assalam-o-Alaikum, Salman
06:41Yes, Assalam-o-Alaikum
06:43Sir, first of all, please tell us legally
06:45what is the status of Umer Ayub
06:47and the other people who have been arrested?
06:49are they released?
06:53I think some of them have been released
06:55I am not sure about Umer
06:57but they should be released
06:59they had a clear order
07:01from the Peshawar High Court regarding all known
07:03F.I.Rs
07:05and these F.I.Rs are already registered
07:07so these F.I.Rs are already registered
07:0926
07:11ok
07:13ok
07:15there is a news
07:17that there has been a discussion
07:19Ms. Aleema was talking
07:21you were there, Mr. Gaur
07:23no, no, these people
07:25no, this is wrong
07:27this number of victims
07:29no, let me tell you
07:31there is a news that
07:33Mr. Gaur said that these are the numbers
07:35you said that we are doing an inquiry
07:37what has happened there?
07:39this was an ordinary discussion
07:41I don't know how
07:43a reporter would be standing there
07:45he must have heard something
07:47or not
07:49and he made a news
07:51and he was talking
07:53about the 12 F.I.Rs
07:55we have all the details
07:57and we know
07:59how many people are missing
08:01we are doing an inquiry
08:03and we will get to know
08:05as more people will be found
08:07the number will decrease
08:09and we will get to know
08:11about them
08:13and it will be doubtful
08:15if they are alive or not
08:17and that is why we are asking
08:19for an inquiry commission
08:21to find out what happened
08:23regarding 26 November
08:25the people who have been arrested
08:27their lists are in front of us
08:29but the people who are missing
08:31whose families are looking for them
08:33what should we say about them?
08:35where are they?
08:37and how should we arrange
08:39these lists?
08:41and a reporter
08:43made a news
08:45Salman tell me
08:47one day before
08:49Sheikh Waqas was in my show
08:51I asked him
08:53about the 12 F.I.Rs
08:55and now there is no question
08:57of an inquiry
08:59and today Khansab
09:01has made a 5 member committee
09:03which has a 3 point agenda
09:05with whom will this committee
09:07negotiate?
09:09are they ready to negotiate
09:11with the government?
09:13is there a condition
09:15that this will be done
09:17with an M.I. or I.S. person?
09:19there is no detail about this
09:21Umar Ayub said something
09:23and someone else said it
09:25and this happened
09:27but immediately after that
09:29they were arrested
09:31they did not get a chance
09:33we will tell you the details
09:35and when we meet Imran Khan
09:37we will tell you more
09:39you met Imran Khan today
09:41yes
09:43it was a very short meeting
09:45I am asking because
09:47you are the secretary general
09:49so didn't Imran Khan tell you
09:51that he is making a committee
09:53and announcing it?
09:55there was a discussion
09:57but it was an initial discussion
09:59and we thought that
10:01there were three cases
10:03one was the ATC case
10:05and two other cases
10:07were about Tosha Khana
10:09and Al-Qadir Trust
10:11in those two cases
10:13Imran Khan was not presented
10:15this was the first case
10:17there were 150-200 accused
10:19the room was full
10:21there was no possibility
10:23of a detailed discussion
10:25so it was decided that
10:27the other cases
10:29will be discussed
10:31in Islamabad there is a lot of talk
10:33about all-inclusive politics
10:35and this country cannot run
10:37there is a stand-off
10:39between you and the army
10:41and the government is in the middle
10:43so if there are any structural changes
10:45like let's say
10:47the People's Party
10:49becomes a national government
10:51and some things are decided
10:53like elections
10:55in such an arrangement
10:57in such an arrangement
10:59are you thinking
11:01that if Sharif family
11:03is removed
11:05it will be a big victory for you
11:07that they are removed
11:09and there is an all-inclusive setup
11:11is there any possibility
11:13of you joining such a setup?
11:15I will not reject anything
11:17as long as there is no discussion
11:19within the party
11:21and there is no discussion
11:23with Imran Khan
11:25why should I reject anything
11:27we have some
11:29basic ideas
11:31we say that this country
11:33has to move towards
11:35democracy and
11:37we have to correct
11:39the state of affairs
11:41so if this practice continues
11:43and we move towards
11:45that goal
11:47I think there are many possibilities
11:49which can be considered
11:51end will justify means
11:53but means should also be
11:55legal
11:57there should not be anything
11:59which is against the principle
12:01but the means should be right
12:03and our end is clear
12:05that law is in the hands
12:07of the democracy
12:09Salman thank you very much
12:11for giving us time
12:13Shahji before starting
12:15I want to say that
12:17they also said that we are
12:19fine for everything
12:21but we have to move towards
12:23democracy
12:25Salman has also said
12:27a very good thing
12:29I want that tomorrow
12:31when we were talking
12:33about this for the past
12:352-3 days
12:37in the show of
12:39Wasim Badami
12:41listen to what
12:43Kamran Mursa
12:45has said
12:47it is very important
12:49for the people's party to come
12:51and become a new sub-party
12:53do you think there is such a thing?
12:55the driving seat of Pakistan
12:57anyone can sit on it
12:59at any time
13:01and if I can come
13:03who is standing from his area
13:05even the councilor cannot be elected
13:07so you are an elected MNA
13:09can you come
13:11in the next set up
13:13if the sub-party changes
13:15sub-parties can change at any time
13:17do you agree with him?
13:19all the claims he makes
13:21that there is a psychological limit
13:23but the government is unacceptable
13:25no one believes him
13:27he has no goodwill
13:29but if there is such a set up
13:31that the Noon League comes
13:33will it be acceptable?
13:35I don't know
13:37Bilawal is a good man
13:39there is nothing wrong with that
13:41if the steering is in Bilawal's hands
13:43then you can also be in the rides
13:45I don't know
13:47I am not in the decision-making
13:49of the party
13:51it is okay with Bilawal
13:53it is not a bad thing
13:55to come to Bilawal
13:57he is a sensible man
13:59I have seen his depth
14:01he is a sensible man
14:03he has seen the depth
14:05we have seen discontent
14:07voices coming
14:09that the Prime Minister
14:11did not go
14:13he has sent a letter
14:15he has sent a letter
14:17he has sent a letter
14:19he has sent a letter
14:21he has sent a letter
14:23he has sent a letter
14:25he has sent a letter
14:27he has sent a letter
14:29he has sent a letter
14:31he has sent a letter
14:33he has sent a letter
14:35he has sent a letter
14:37he has sent a letter
14:39he has sent a letter
14:41because where we are standing
14:43we are standing in a closed lane
14:45there is an inquisition of the army
14:47there is an inquisition of Imran Khan
14:49the government doesn't want
14:51to talk about both
14:53can a basic dynamic change
14:55create a national unity
14:57I don't think it will
14:59Sir
15:01anything you have to think
15:03it should be seen
15:05in the cultural context
15:07of the society you live in
15:09and our culture is
15:11that the shoulders of the partners
15:13should be lowered
15:15even if you come under it
15:17the shoulders will be lowered
15:19if the government comes
15:21who is the basic partner
15:23the three people
15:25what is the establishment
15:27the establishment
15:29Pakistan People's Party
15:31and Pakistan Muslim League
15:33the joint partner of these three
15:35is Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
15:37ok
15:39now
15:41if a few parties
15:43come out of the lane
15:45then the configuration
15:47will change
15:49you should not hold the stick
15:51like this
15:53actually
15:55my dear brother
15:57on 26th November
15:59suddenly
16:01there was a hype
16:03that they entered
16:05and when they were
16:07suddenly
16:09dispersed
16:11how did they disperse
16:13for that you could not tell
16:15a credible story
16:17and
16:19as soon as
16:21on 15th November
16:23they were arrested
16:25they took a car from G8
16:27they changed it
16:29it was facilitated
16:31yes, a safe passage was given
16:33and as soon as they
16:35presented themselves
16:37the first word they said
16:39hundreds of our people were killed
16:41and this
16:43our colleagues
16:45were not told on social media
16:47it was cut
16:49on all the mainstream media
16:51and on the cut
16:53your chief minister of a province
16:55elected chief minister said
16:57hundreds of my people were killed
16:59Khosla sir said 278
17:01the question is
17:03you don't have any forum
17:05you have APEX
17:07immediately after saying this
17:09you should have called that APEX committee meeting
17:11and you should have asked R.A. Gandapur
17:13to prove your point
17:15you failed to do that
17:17this is the failure of the government
17:19after that
17:21not government, all of them
17:23on that day law and order
17:25was included
17:27after that it happens
17:29international media, social media
17:31and all that
17:33the stories that have spread
17:35frankly speaking like it or not
17:37the word that was used
17:39was massacre
17:41you couldn't defeat that story
17:43to do that
17:45after 9 days
17:47Pakistan's highly articulated
17:49foreign minister
17:51Mr. Ishaq Dar
17:53calls Sukhra and tells her
17:55the ambassadors that
17:57I have briefed yesterday
17:59among them at least 3 people
18:01I have spoken to
18:03all of them said
18:05we and most of our colleagues
18:07they were not convinced
18:09by a word
18:11what the minister said
18:13that is why they are shaking hands
18:15because if the European commission
18:17representative
18:19says where is Mateeullah
18:21the British
18:23delegation
18:25delegation
18:27if you have any
18:29profit
18:31in trade
18:33why does he sell textiles to America
18:35there is a Trump who says
18:37I will increase the tariff
18:39if Europe does the same
18:41it is very difficult to make us North Korea
18:43basic thing is
18:45after that Faisal Wada
18:47when he sits with friends like you
18:49when there are people like you
18:51can there be a government of unity in this country
18:53Astaghfirullah
18:55they are defaming social media
18:57when it happens
18:59that two divorces
19:01have become compulsory
19:03one is that Pakistan
19:05has given divorce to Muslim country
19:07and the other
19:09when they have already
19:11given two divorces
19:13when they say
19:15now the condition is
19:17instead of being ashamed
19:19that we are a country of 25 crore
19:21and apart from that
19:23we are so civilized
19:25and the decision of our fate is
19:27that Faisal Wada
19:29once
19:31met Bilawal Bhutto publicly
19:33once at a wedding
19:35and three more times
19:37and today he went
19:39to a politician like Maulana Fazlur Rehman
19:41when he called him
19:43Maulana asked him
19:45Mian whose message are you bringing
19:47I will talk to him directly
19:49the point is not
19:51who is getting Faisal Wada
19:53the point is who is meeting him
19:55this means that
19:57the head of power
19:59is Faisal Wada
20:01so don't pretend yourself
20:03that you are a hybrid democracy
20:05you will say
20:07that we have
20:09a person who does a little mobility
20:11but
20:13Mr. Beg tell me
20:15I will come back to this
20:17the situation is different
20:19Imran Khan is against both
20:21Nawaz Sharif's party
20:23and Zardari's party
20:25they have done corruption
20:27they have looted
20:29then with Punjab
20:31they have a different thing
20:33they have a power base
20:35when the results of the elections were not good
20:37their government also went
20:39if in phase 1
20:41they see that
20:43the people who stole my power
20:45if they move away
20:47and like
20:49I have heard their statement
20:51of Salman Khan
20:53he said everything is on the table
20:55if we
20:57ultimately go towards those things
20:59then we can talk about all kinds of arrangements
21:01now if
21:03they are standing in a closed street
21:05neither the army can move away
21:07nor the IK can move away
21:09they are the beneficiary of the conflict
21:11they will want it to stay like this
21:13so what is the third solution
21:15either a dialogue
21:17or a parameter change
21:19where everyone can come
21:21JUI says they are very clever
21:23we have seen their depth
21:25they are doing a good job
21:27and these people are very unpopular
21:29ANP will also come
21:31so if in phase 1
21:33Sharif family for example
21:35we are talking hypothetically
21:37if there is a change of guard
21:39people's party comes up
21:41in all inclusive politics
21:43why Imran Khan
21:45excluding Nawaz
21:47no no PM will come
21:49both are allies
21:51they can support them
21:53they can also support them
21:55this happens to families
21:57it happened before also
21:59so the real thing is
22:01can PTI be brought in
22:03or not
22:05then it will be all inclusive
22:07if they know 2-3 years later there will be elections
22:09these games are made
22:11one after another
22:13this game will not be made
22:15I will tell you why
22:17basically when
22:19formation of government was going on
22:21it was like
22:23if you remember
22:25people's party will get some terms
22:27then it was like
22:29if you want to do half and half terms
22:31you can include ministers
22:33half will be theirs
22:35it was like this
22:37so think tank
22:39and DCN decided
22:41no
22:43give them the government
22:45the regular jobs they got
22:47they did not get for free
22:49they got under this deal
22:51otherwise they could not get regular jobs
22:53they could not get leadership
22:55they could not get chairman senate
22:57and the governorships they got
22:59they got for free
23:01how did they get a governor in Punjab
23:03how did they get one in KPK
23:05and now you are saying
23:07I should come to the driving seat
23:09is this a joke?
23:11I am being told about a break
23:13I want to tease this
23:15that everyone thought
23:17there is a Bianiya of PTI
23:19of IK
23:21in a year
23:23there will be a counter Bianiya
23:25one is that
23:27there is no counter Bianiya
23:29they are thinking
23:31they are not practical people
23:33let's talk after the break
23:35when that did not happen
23:37in a year which should have happened
23:39then you can talk about a new formula
23:41after the break
23:43I will explain
23:45let's try to understand
23:55welcome back
23:57before the break
23:59I was saying
24:01I got an impression
24:03that it has become a guardian knot
24:05no one can open it
24:07now if there is a change
24:09in all this
24:11whether it is an optic change
24:13or a cosmetic change
24:15everyone should get a chance
24:17to realign their strategies
24:19today PTI says nothing doing
24:21they say there is a change
24:23we are going for the betterment of the situation
24:25let's go for national unity
24:27let's join in
24:29all the unpopularity
24:31that the establishment has to bear
24:33there will be a reduction
24:35so there will be a difference
24:37if there is a change
24:39whether it is an optic change
24:41Mr. Malik
24:43if you look at the national unity government
24:45in the last 16 months
24:47that one's face was here
24:49and the other's was there
24:51that was for 16 months
24:53everyone knew
24:55now there are two major parties
24:57Noon and People's Party
25:01Noon League created the government
25:03and gave them almost all the regular jobs
25:05even in Punjab
25:07they gave them the majority of the government
25:09they gave them KP and everything
25:11after that they are still not satisfied
25:13so do you think that
25:15if you bring 16 parties here
25:17you will run the unity government
25:19No, these parties do 3 things
25:21we used to talk about PDM
25:23believe me I know the names of 4 parties
25:25there are only 4 players
25:27Mr. Zardari, Mr. Nawaz Sharif
25:29Mr. Imran Khan
25:31and Mr. Fazlur Rehman
25:33and to a small extent
25:35maybe Mr. Wali Khan's family
25:37but these 4 are the main ones
25:39they are the ones with the hats
25:41I am asking a hypothetical question
25:43because in Islamabad
25:45we have been in Islamabad for 30 years
25:47you have been here longer than me
25:496 months ago
25:51there was a rumor
25:53that the PTI has become a power
25:55and we said we have heard that
25:57these sudden changes
25:59Bilawal being active
26:01Mr. Wawda being active
26:03I have told you his comments
26:05we have just heard his comments
26:07he was in a positive mood
26:09Mr. Salman Raja
26:11the PTI
26:13all these poor people
26:15the oppressed
26:17big offices, general secretary
26:19chairman, opposition
26:21God knows they can't do anything
26:23they have just come
26:25and they have no decision
26:27they can't do anything
26:29without asking Imran
26:31let's talk about this
26:33bluntly
26:35this is a fact
26:37all the rules
26:39they have given a reference
26:41after 24-26
26:43propaganda against the army
26:45all the strictness
26:47this propaganda is aimed at the army
26:49there is a viral
26:51that don't buy products
26:53it is not possible
26:55that the institution is immune
26:57we don't care
26:59especially
27:01where there is a volunteer army
27:03we don't have a conscripted army
27:05people go there willingly
27:07this is more important
27:09there should not be a gap
27:11between people and the army
27:13the army always stresses
27:15if there are any
27:17changes
27:19they try to
27:21make everyone inclusive
27:23this is a non-starter
27:25in your opinion
27:27there was no such feeling in Zia ul Haq
27:29there was no social media
27:31the environment was different
27:33the problem is
27:35we have
27:37social media
27:39unfortunately
27:41we are thinking like this
27:43in 1857 there was no social media
27:45the word Ghadar
27:47started from that day
27:491857
27:51this is a cartridge
27:53and it is loaded
27:55so will it continue like this?
27:57first of all
27:59you tell me
28:01the thing is
28:03the most powerful institution
28:05which is still
28:07going on
28:09is it according to that or not?
28:11is it according to
28:13the election of February
28:15in 1857?
28:17is it related to that?
28:19we are talking about short term
28:21the government is also busy
28:23the supreme court
28:25has taken care of the election
28:27has taken care of everything
28:29I am telling you frankly
28:31keep Pakistan in its context
28:33we have learned
28:35these new words
28:37social media, youth words, demographics
28:39these are realities
28:41my dear
28:43there are rest of the countries as well
28:45across Iran
28:47is it working there?
28:49is there youth generation in Iran?
28:51has youth generation stopped in Iran?
28:53what situation is it in Iran?
28:55has it stopped in the Philippines
28:57in the Philippines
28:59has the generally
29:01the youth
29:03has it been given the power?
29:05instead of calling
29:07their Nawaz Sharif
29:09तो उसकी भिन्जीती बादी को... मैं तो मैं सिर्फ यह अर्ष करना चाह रहा हूँ
29:13कि अभी जो यह बात है, देखो,
29:16डिफेंस में एक बहुत पड़ी स्ट्रेक्टरिजी होती है,
29:19डिसेप्शन. I think,
29:21यह फैसल बाड़ा के जरीए
29:23एक डिसेप्टिव केम चलाई गई है,
29:25कि परिशान मत हो,
29:27अब यह कश्टी बे बोज बन रहे हैं,
29:29हम इनको उतार रहे हैं,
29:31आप्टिक्स बदल जाएंगे,
29:32और उसका फाइदा यह हुआ है,
29:33कि मैं और आप,
29:35साही ज़िनगी सहाफत की नजर करने के बावजूद,
29:39हम तीनों के तीनों हगराद,
29:41बहुत संजीद की से सोच रहे हैं,
29:43हाते थें कि...
29:45हमारी मश्चुरी हम ignore नहीं कर सकते हैं,
29:47लेकिन मेरा अच्छा simple सवाल है,
29:49जिस तरहां हालात यह हैं,
29:51क्या अगर कोई यह चाहे,
29:53कि हम इम्राल खान को निकलन दे,
29:55क्या पांच साल अंदर रख पाएंगे,
29:57क्या यही गवर्मन्ट, यही हालात के साथ,
29:59यह मुल्क पांच साल ऐसे चल सकता है,
30:01चलेगा?
30:02I have my doubts,
30:03मेरा अपना यह ख्याल है,
30:05कि कहीं न कहीं,
30:06मैं एक फैसला करना पड़ेगा,
30:08कि 26 नवमबर के बाद,
30:10there is an opening as well,
30:12opening यह है,
30:14कि आप विक्टर की तरहें
30:16बहेव न करें,
30:18आप यह कहें,
30:20कि आप ने चलाया की कोशिश की थी,
30:22आप ने देखा,
30:24कि रियासत के पास इतनी ताकत होती है,
30:26उस में नाजा महसूस न करें,
30:28सेकंडली, सबसे बड़ी बात यह है,
30:30कि बजाये सोशल मीडिया
30:32एक सेक्टरा को इलजाम देने के,
30:34मुझे यह बात बताईए,
30:36क्या आप दिल से,
30:38as a journalist समझते हो,
30:40कि इसलामाबाद आने वाले जो लोग थे,
30:42पुर अम एतिजाजी थे,
30:44आखिर अटक पार करना जो है,
30:46पुर अम एतिजाजी जलूस नहीं कर सकता,
30:50कुछ दो चार हमने भी कबर कियें,
30:52लेकिन,
30:54आज इन कवानी का सुने,
30:56एतिजाज करना तो एक राइट है,
30:58यह भी नहीं है,
31:00बनियाद पे नहीं ले सकते है,
31:02हमारा अंदाजा है,
31:04इसे आएंगे नहीं है,
31:06क्या ब्रेंजेज मार दे,
31:08आप पलीस वाले चाहिंग कर दे,
31:10मैं तो तुम्हें सिर्फ यह कह रहा हूँ,
31:12तिक्खो जहां से,
31:14हम इवर को डिसकस करने के बजाए,
31:16क्या हमने,
31:26जब यह जलूस वहाँ से शुरूग हुआ है,
31:28मैं यह नहीं कहता,
31:30यह बिमारी भी हमें ले डाली हुई थी न,
31:32जब यह लाडले थे,
31:34तो उस वक्त हमारे उपर यह फर्स था,
31:36कि हम रेगुलर प्रोग्राम छोड़ का
31:38डी चौक दिखाएं,
31:40तो आज जब आप यह बिमारी देते हैं,
31:44तो वो भी कहें,
31:46कि यह गुना हमसे सर्जद हुआ था,
31:48ऐसे मत कहें,
31:50मैं आप से यह कहता हूँ,
31:52कि ऐसे नहीं चल सकता,
31:56लेकिन यह करना,
31:58कि गोट की तरे,
32:00ऐ मुराट आगे एथे कर देओ,
32:02बात क्या चल रही है,
32:04मुरूसी सियासत,
32:06हमने आजमा लिया,
32:08कि चाचा मरकज में,
32:10चाचाएं को अटा दे,
32:12बेटा मरकज में, बाप भी मरकज में,
32:14अल्ला ला खैर से अल्ला,
32:16तो बात तो वही नहीं रही है,
32:18आप ही खालें पांच साल चल सकता ऐसे?
32:20देखें जो फार्मूला,
32:22किसी के जैन में है,
32:24कि बिलावल साहब को सीट दे दो,
32:26और उसमें PTI,
32:28आप समझते हैं, इम्रान खण किसी और को
32:30प्राइमनिस्टर मान के PTI को उसमें शामिल कर दे,
32:32या अपने वजीद बनवाने?
32:34नहीं, अगर ही होगा,
32:36हम एक scenario
32:38discuss कर रहे हैं,
32:40कि फ़र जानपल कहते हैं, थीक है यार,
32:42यह National Unity Government है,
32:44नहीं मैं सवाल कर लेता हूँ,
32:46कि National Unity Government है,
32:48चलें जी यह तीन साल चलेगी,
32:50election एक साल पहले करा देंगे,
32:52सारे rules पहय हो जा,
32:54National Unity Government बना दें,
32:56believe करे, जो आज हलात है,
32:58इस से worse हलात होगे,
33:00वो system नहीं चल सकता है,
33:02National Unity Government बनना,
33:04Imran Khan के idea की defeat है,
33:06वो यह कहते थे,
33:08यह चोर और लुटेरे बारियां ले रहे हैं,
33:10अब यह बारियां लेने आ गए,
33:12चार बंदे दे के,
33:14यह भी कहा देंगे defeat है,
33:16कि वो उनी लोगों से बात थे,
33:18फिर वो दिफीट क्यों नहीं है,
33:20कि जिन लोगों ने वकाल,
33:22उनके उनको निकाला,
33:24अमरिकनों को भी information दी,
33:26गलत किया, अनकी government को निकाल दिया,
33:28वो उनसे ही बात करना चाह रहे है,
33:30नहीं, इस तरा तो आज नोंने
33:32शेर हशीत को कहा कि I was misled,
33:34आज ये डियाला केल में,
33:36सबसे बड़ी जो है,
33:38जपनी, शेर हशीत सभी दिया रहे है,
33:52इस वक कोई शक है, कि बहुत popular है,
33:54क्या इस वक कोई शक है,
33:56कि government का और तमाम issues का
33:58बोज सारा establishment है,
34:00और unpopularity का बोज उन पे है,
34:02despite कि रोज शाते हो रहे हैं,
34:04रोज बच्चे शेहीद हो रहे हैं,
34:06और लोग उसकी बात नहीं करते है,
34:08परसा मैं देखते है,
34:12मैं कहता हूँ, जो भी responsible है,
34:14reality क्या है इस वक,
34:16बच्चे शेहीद हो रहे हैं,
34:18चाहे वो captains हैं,
34:20जबान हैं,
34:22मैं सवाल सुन ले,
34:24तो इसलिए उसके बाबजूद,
34:26सब का focus यह हुआ बाए,
34:28कि यार इसके साथ क्या हो रहा है,
34:30ये क्या वो उसको रास्ता नहीं दे रहा है,
34:33ये इस तरह वो मुल्क कैसे चलेंगे?
34:35चलेंगा, इसी तरह चलेंगा,
34:37इन crisis में से आप निकलेंगे,
34:39ये एक बंदा आपको hostage किये है,
34:41पूरे मुल्क को, और वो समझता है कि
34:43अपनी dictate की वी policies पर
34:45वो मुल्क चलाएगा, ऐसा नहीं होगा.
34:47अब आया, आप ज़खें न, आप कहें न, ऐसी चलेंगा,
34:49अभी वो मुल्क, एक से ख़बर share करूँ,
34:51अभी वो आया है,
34:53breaking आ रही है, कि जी, इम्रान खान साहब
34:55ने कहा या कि 14 December से
34:57civil ना फर्मानी तहरीक
34:59के वो शुरू कर रहे है,
35:02और उसकी details भी आ रही है,
35:17यही तो नहीं है, प्लिक के बाद.
35:27जी, welcome back, अभी कुछ ही लामें पहले
35:29इनको Twitter handle से बड़ी सक्ष सेट पिंड आई है,
35:31उनने कहा कि मैंने, उनने direct किया है,
35:33कि 13 December को पिशावर में
35:35शोहधा को, खराज आकीदत
35:37पेश करने के लिए जीमुशान इश्तमा
35:39करें पार्टी होगा, पाँच
35:41committee members के तो उनने नाम पहले ही आगे है,
35:43उनने कहा, दो निकाती इनका होगा,
35:45एक यह है, under trial स्यासी कैदियों
35:47की रहाई, दूसरा 9 May और
35:4926 November के वाकियात की शफाब
35:51तहकीकात के लिए judicial commission का
35:53कियाम, और उनने कहा कि अगर
36:09को महदूद करें और बैक और महम चलाएं,
36:11इस तरीके दूसरे महले में
36:13इस से आगे भी जाएंगे,
36:15चल है जी यह तो एक निया
36:17राउंड शुरू हो गया,
36:19मालिक साहब यह मुल्क दुश्मन अनासर
36:21के साथ inclinedाइम है, यह
36:23वो अजंडा है जो पाकिस्तान को
36:39यह नहीं होगा, यह कबी भी नहीं होगा,
36:41यह एक बुजदिल आदमी है,
36:43जो इस किसम के टैक्टिस करके,
36:45इस मुल्को नुकसान दे रहा है,
36:47देखें, पहले भी सिवल नाम फर्मानी की तरीक
36:49की, बिजली के बेल चलाए,
36:51वो कॉंटर पॉर्डरक्टिव थे,
36:53मालिक साहब, मैं आपकी गान की अमान बाते हुए,
36:55मैं, आप मुझे बहुत प्यारे हैं,
36:57बहुत अजीज हैं,
36:59बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:01बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:03बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:05बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:07बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:09बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:11बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:13बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:15बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:17बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:19बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:21बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:23बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:25बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:27बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:29बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:31बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:33बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:35बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:37बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:39बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:41बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:43बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:45बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:47बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:49बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:51बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:53बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:55बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:57बहुत अजीज हैं,
37:59बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:01बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:03बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:05बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:07बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:09बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:11बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:13बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:15बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:17बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:19बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:21बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:23बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:25बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:27बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:29बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:31बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:33बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:35बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:37बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:39बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:41बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:43बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:45बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:47बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:49बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:51बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:53बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:55बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:57बहुत अजीज हैं,
38:59बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:01बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:03बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:05बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:07बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:09बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:11बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:13बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:15बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:17बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:19बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:21बहुत अजीज हैं,
39:23अगर कहीं, अच्छे दिन मुझे मुल के लिए भी काफ़ी दूर नसर आ रहे हैं,
39:28Let's hope sanity prevails,
39:30तमाम लोगों के लिए,
39:31इजाज़द भी जिये,
39:32Allah Hafiz.