In this exclusive interview, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov outlines the conditions set by President Putin for ending the war in Ukraine. Lavrov addresses key issues such as NATO's role, the status of foreign troops, and the need for Ukraine to accept the realities on the ground. This candid conversation, published on Tucker Carlson's YouTube page and shared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, provides insights into Russia's stance on the conflict and the potential path to peace. Lavrov also touches on the importance of lifting sanctions as part of a broader agreement.
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00:00We were asking for the implementation of this deal.
00:04They were absolutely impatient and aggressive.
00:09Agreements were signed.
00:11I was there. The negotiations lasted for 17 hours.
00:16And the deal was, well, Crimea was lost by that time
00:22because of the referendum.
00:24A special status for a very tiny part of Donbass.
00:30Not for the entire Donbass.
00:32Not for Novorossiya at all.
00:35Part of Donbass, as Putin explained,
00:39at that time we suggested these security arrangements
00:45to NATO and the United States, which was rejected.
00:50And when the Plan B was launched out of Donbass by force,
00:54it was then that we launched the special military operation.
00:59Had they implemented the Minsk agreements,
01:02Ukraine would be one piece minus Crimea.
01:05But even then, when Ukrainians, after we started the operation,
01:09suggested to negotiate, we agreed.
01:12There were several rounds in Belarus,
01:14and later they moved to Istanbul.
01:17And in Istanbul, Ukrainian delegation put a paper on the table
01:23saying those are the principles on which we are ready to agree.
01:28So what are the terms under which Russia would cease hostilities?
01:32What are you asking for?
01:35Ten years ago, in February 2014,
01:38we were asking only for the deal between the president and the opposition
01:44to have government of national unity, to hold early elections,
01:48to be implemented.
01:50The deal was signed.
01:52And we were asking for the implementation of this deal.
01:56They were absolutely impatient and aggressive.
02:01And they were, of course, pushed, I have no slightest doubt, by the Americans,
02:06because if Victoria Nuland and the U.S. ambassador agreed
02:11the composition of the government,
02:13why wait for five months to hold early elections?
02:17The next time we were in favor of something
02:22was when the Minsk agreements were signed.
02:25I was there.
02:27The negotiations lasted for 17 hours.
02:30And the deal was, well, Crimea was lost by that time
02:36because of the referendum.
02:38And nobody, including my colleague John Kerry,
02:44meeting with us, nobody in the West was raising the issue of Crimea.
02:50Everybody was concentrated on Donbass.
02:53And the Minsk agreements provided for territorial integrity of Ukraine,
03:00minus Crimea, this was not even raised,
03:04and a special status for a very tiny part of Donbass.
03:11Not for the entire Donbass.
03:13Not for Novorossiya at all.
03:16Part of Donbass, under these Minsk agreements,
03:21endorsed by the Security Council,
03:23should have the right to speak Russian language,
03:27to teach Russian language, to study in Russian,
03:33to have local law enforcement, like in the states of the US,
03:41to be consulted when judges and prosecutors are appointed
03:46by the central authority,
03:49and to have some facilitated economic connections
03:53with neighboring regions of Russia.
03:57That's it.
03:59Something which President Macron promised to give to Corsica,
04:04and still is considering how to do this.
04:10And when these agreements were sabotaged all along,
04:18first by Poroshenko, and then by Zelensky,
04:22both of them, by the way, came to presidency,
04:25running on the promise of peace.
04:28And both of them lied.
04:33So when these Minsk agreements were sabotaged to the extent
04:38that we saw the attempts to take this tiny part of Donbass by force,
04:46and we, as Putin explained, we have, at that time,
04:51we suggested these security arrangements to NATO and the United States,
04:56which was rejected.
04:59And when the Plan B was launched by Ukraine and its sponsors,
05:04trying to take this part of Donbass by force,
05:08it was then that we launched the special military operation.
05:14Had they implemented the Minsk agreements,
05:16Ukraine would be one piece, minus Crimea.
05:19But even then, when Ukrainians, after we started the operation,
05:23suggested to negotiate, we agreed.
05:26There were several rounds in Belarus, and later they moved to Istanbul.
05:31And in Istanbul, Ukrainian delegation put a paper on the table saying,
05:38those are the principles on which we are ready to agree.
05:42And we accepted those principles.
05:45The Minsk principles.
05:46No, no, no, the Istanbul principles.
05:49It was April 22.
05:50Right.
05:52Which was no NATO,
05:55but security guarantees to Ukraine collectively provided
06:02with the participation of Russia.
06:05And these security guarantees would not cover Crimea or the east of Ukraine.
06:13It was their proposal.
06:16And it was initialed.
06:19And the head of the Ukrainian delegation in Istanbul,
06:22who is now the chair of the Zelensky faction in the parliament,
06:31he recently, a few months ago, in an interview,
06:34he confirmed that this was the case.
06:36And on the basis of these principles, we were ready to draft a treaty.
06:44But then, this gentleman who headed the Ukrainian delegation in Istanbul,
06:49he said that Boris Johnson visited and told them to continue to fight.
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