👉 Un vecino de La Matanza, denuncia la creciente inseguridad. Ricardo revela que vive armado por temor a ser víctima de un delito. Este testimonio surge tras el asesinato de Eliana Gómez, una joven enfermera del Hospital Churruca que dos delincuentes ASESINARON de un disparo en la cabeza para robar su auto en Rafael Castillo.
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00:00I have to take care of the prosecutors, the judges, because it can't be that they fire a person who has 7 or 10 causes.
00:07He has 7 previous causes.
00:09So what happens? The one who fired him, who fired him? The judge Juliano Etal.
00:14He is also an accomplice because he fired him so he could go kill.
00:18Do you understand me?
00:19I mean, let's make things clear, otherwise we'll see all the neighbors die.
00:23I live armed. I live armed.
00:26I finish at midnight or one o'clock, I take my gun and I come armed.
00:32Because my life is worth it.
00:34I say, if I have to go to Cana, I'll go to Cana.
00:36But my life is worth it because I see all the neighbors, I see all the neighbors crying, crying,
00:42and then you leave and we continue to fuck.
00:46Hello, can you hear me? How are you?
00:48I'm in charge of what I do.
00:49Ricardo is listening to you.
00:50Ricardo, how are you?
00:52How are you, Guille? Good, good.
00:54I always see you.
00:55Thank you very much.
00:56We are concerned, but I am interested in what you are saying.
00:59How long have you had the gun, Ricardo?
01:04I have had the gun since 2014.
01:07And I bought it because my life is worth it.
01:12The life of a human being is worth it.
01:14Without a doubt.
01:15So it can't be that a guy who has seven causes is free and goes and kills because he does.
01:23Ricardo, you already had to use it or not yet?
01:32And a couple of times I did use it because I cover myself when I enter my house.
01:36But did you shoot? Did you shoot or did you just show it?
01:40Yes, yes, yes. No, no, no.
01:43The gun is used to shoot, it is not used to show it.
01:47So, excuse me, they already tried to rob you twice in the slaughterhouse,
01:52and twice you were able to repel the attack of the criminals with this gun that you bought.
01:57Correct.
01:58Ricardo.
01:59Now, excuse me.
02:00I have two.
02:01I say, aren't you afraid? Because I understand when someone buys a gun,
02:07but I also understand that many times, if we are not informed about the use,
02:11I don't know if you are a police officer or you work in security.
02:14No, there are legitimate users.
02:15Sure, or you are a legitimate user.
02:16No, no, no.
02:17But aren't you afraid?
02:18I am an ordinary worker.
02:20Yes, of course.
02:22But it can be dangerous for you.
02:24Judicial, just the fact of telling it, and eventually also to act on the gun against a criminal.
02:30No, you are not a legitimate user.
02:32You didn't do the process, you directly bought the gun.
02:34Excuse me, excuse me for interrupting you.
02:36Germán Margusita.
02:37Excuse me for interrupting you.
02:38I don't want to be in the cemetery.
02:41I don't want to be in the cemetery.
02:43But now this poor creature, this poor girl, because she is young,
02:47has to be in the cemetery.
02:49She already has the perpetual chain, she doesn't leave the cemetery anymore.
02:52Do you understand me?
02:53Yes, yes, yes.
02:54So I don't want to be in the cemetery, I want to walk down the street.
02:56No, of course.
02:57So if you want to make a report, I'll leave you the phone, call me,
03:01I'll go to the canal and I'll explain things to you as they are.
03:03No, no.
03:04I'm 55 years old.
03:05Ricardo, but...
03:06And I work since I was born.
03:09I understand you.
03:10I understand you.
03:11Sometimes there are many people on the other side who may be saying,
03:14it's dangerous because if they already know you have a gun and you are exposing yourself,
03:19next time, unfortunately, hopefully nothing happens to you,
03:22if something happens to you, they will shoot you directly.
03:24Do you understand what I'm saying, Ricardo?
03:26Do you have a family?
03:28Yes.
03:30Look, look, I have a saying, I'm 55 years old,
03:33and I have a saying that the old people used to say,
03:36the one who wins first hits twice.
03:39So I try to win, until now I'm winning.
03:41Someday I'm going to lose, of course.
03:43But as long as I can keep living, I'm going to keep living.
03:46Ricardo, we have...
03:47I don't want to be in a drawer in a cemetery.
03:49I understand you.
03:50And we are the same age.
03:51And I want to ask you,
03:53how long have you been living there in La Matanza?
03:59And I live since 1986.
04:01So...
04:02In 1986 you could walk.
04:03That's what I'm going to do.
04:04You went to the dances, the boys were walking down the street.
04:07Today the boys live in jail.
04:09They live in jail, sir.
04:11They live in jail.
04:12And the thieves live in freedom.
04:14Yes.
04:15No, no, no, I wanted to go to that.
04:17To the Matanza that you lived in.
04:18The only thing I ask of you, Guille, the only thing I ask of you, look,
04:21the only thing I ask of you,
04:22is that the judges and prosecutors let the guys go,
04:26and the guy goes and kills.
04:27So you find out who let him go.
04:29Medina, Ricardo, the prosecutor.
04:31Done.
04:32He's also an accomplice, because he had him killed.
04:34Ricardo.
04:35He's an accomplice.
04:36The prosecutor let him go.
04:37Or the judge let him go.
04:38He's an accomplice.
04:39Yes.
04:40Believe me, every day we tell ourselves...
04:42How things are going to change.
04:43We tell ourselves, at least me,
04:45that the issue of insecurity, if it is not addressed as a problem,
04:48at least in the province of Buenos Aires,
04:49it will never be solved.
04:51That it is also a place where in the pandemic they left free,
04:54very dangerous prisoners and who committed crimes.
04:57That is, here you have a person who, in that sense,
05:00agrees with what you say.
05:02And that many times, because of romanticizing crime so much,
05:04it has come to this.
05:06Now, regarding the gun and what you are talking about,
05:10do you know many more people who did the same as you?
05:15It's just that many people...
05:17In my block, I have...
05:20I, who am one of the oldest,
05:22I mean, I gave the phone to everyone,
05:25and we take care of each other.
05:27In my block, nothing happens.
05:29It's quiet.
05:30In my block, it's quiet.
05:31Why?
05:32Because they know that we, in the block,
05:34we are all armed.
05:35Sure.
05:36And what does your family say?
05:37Ricardo, does your family support you?
05:39I am very sorry for this death.
05:41No, obviously.
05:42Does your family support you?
05:43And they are...
05:45I tell them, first,
05:48if something happens to me,
05:50I want them to be fine.
05:51I mean, and my family, I tell them,
05:53they know, they know,
05:55that if they shoot me,
05:56they are going to go home and they are going to kill them.
05:58I hope this doesn't happen.
06:00I'm not going to kill people.
06:01I ask you, Ricardo...
06:02Look at this girl with a whole future,
06:03with a whole future.
06:04She studied, she studied.
06:06Look where it ends, look where it ends.
06:09No, no, no, sure.
06:10What happened is a barbarity.
06:11That's why I came to support the people here.
06:13Guille, I'll leave you the phone.
06:15No, no, it's okay.
06:16Now we're going to talk.
06:17Just one more question, Ricardo.
06:19And make me a report.
06:21Don't say it.
06:22Make me a report.
06:23I take care of what I say.
06:24Okay, we're going to invite you.
06:25But I ask you one thing.
06:26Now, don't show it.
06:28But now, are you armed?
06:30Now, talking to us, do you have the gun on you?
06:32No, no, no.
06:33No, no.
06:34Where do you take it?
06:35No, no.
06:36Do you have it inside your house?
06:38No, no, I have it in my house.
06:39I have it in my house.
06:41And when I'm going to finish in the afternoon,
06:43I do take it.
06:44Do you have it now?
06:45Do you have it armed?
06:46When I'm playing without the vehicle.
06:48Without the vehicle.
06:50Do you have it ready?
06:51My gun is ready.
06:54Let's see.
06:55First, me.
06:56Second, me.
06:57Third, me.
06:58And fourth, me.
06:59Tell me one thing, Ricardo, and I'll leave you.
07:00Why did we get to this?
07:01You, who is a person who lives in La Matanza,
07:04who walked in freedom,
07:05who left the door open,
07:06like everyone else in the neighborhood where we grew up.
07:08Today, many people decide to be armed.
07:11Why did we get to this?
07:15And why do I tell you?
07:16I repeat the same thing.
07:18We don't want to be in the cemetery.
07:20We want to walk, work and live from our work.
07:25Ricardo, can I ask you?
07:26How can a guy who has seven causes come?
07:29Can I ask you how you got the gun?
07:34No, no, they're all legal.
07:36I buy it with all the paperwork and everything is legal.
07:38And as I say, I take care of what I do.
07:41If I have to pay 20 years in prison, I will pay.
07:43Because I killed one.
07:44But I'm going to be alive.
07:46I'm not going to be in the cemetery.
07:48That's what we have to understand and remember.
07:51Ricardo, do the cops know that the whole block is armed?
07:58They know everything.
07:59They know where you walk, where you don't walk,
08:02what you do, what you don't do.
08:04They're there all day.
08:06We don't.
08:07You don't.
08:08You're thinking about doing a show,
08:10going home and having to pay your debts,
08:12see if your salary is enough.
08:14They're there every day for that.
08:17They know how you dress,
08:18what time you go out, what time you come back.
08:20They know everything.
08:21Sure, sure.
08:22And also, and with this, Ricardo, I'll leave you.
08:25Let's remember, we're talking,
08:27because here they killed a young nurse.
08:29The only sin she committed was resisting,
08:33locking the doors, she was afraid.
08:36And because she was afraid, they shot her in the head.
08:39The criminals, yes, you say there must be death penalty.
08:42We can discuss it.
08:43But those who apply the death penalty,
08:45already in Argentina and for a long time,
08:47are the criminals.
08:48Unfortunately, ending their lives in this way,
08:51as they did with this young woman.
08:55Correct, correct.
08:56They apply the death penalty.
08:58Now, they never sit at the table to discuss
09:02if they can apply the death penalty to the one who killed,
09:05because they kill for sport.
09:06Of course, but today we have a detainee
09:08that we don't know if it is.
09:09That is also very dangerous.
09:11Today it is not proven that the detainee is the one who killed.
09:14Imagine in a death penalty case,
09:17it is impossible because there are a lot of international agreements
09:20that Argentina signed.
09:21It is unfeasible.
09:22But imagine...
09:23Guillermo, I want to ask the neighbors who think about this.
09:25If you have to be armed, how do you defend yourself?
09:27And of course, now the police arrive,
09:29there is patrol in the area and so on,
09:31as always happens in the mobiles.
09:33The neighbors who gather here because of the insecurity,
09:35I always want to ask them,
09:36is there patrol here in the area?
09:37Sometimes, sometimes.
09:38Only once a night,
09:40the patrolman passes by,
09:42but from time to time, it is not constant.
09:45But what the man...
09:47I understand the man,
09:48if he wants to use a weapon,
09:50if he has a weapon and he wants to defend himself,
09:52he will defend himself.
09:53I mean, there are people who do, and people who don't.
09:55How do you defend yourself from the criminals?
09:57How do you live your daily life?
09:58I would tell you,
10:00I'm going to save my life,
10:01I'm going to give everything,
10:03because, as they say in this subject,
10:06the material goes and comes,
10:08life does not.
10:09So...
10:10But you never know,
10:11you never know how you can react.
10:13She only locked the doors,
10:15she didn't resist.
10:16Let's see if she locked herself with the central lock.
10:19I saw the whole sequence when she left the house.
10:22You saw everything?
10:23Yes.
10:24I was here in my house,
10:26I was looking at the plants,
10:28and my sister grabs me by the arm and says to me,
10:30come inside now, my son,
10:32because I saw that he took out the gun, the guy.
10:34Yes.
10:35You see?
10:36And...
10:38And well, when...
10:39She pulls me inside my house,
10:46she pulls me by the arm,
10:48and I go out and look out the window.
10:51And what did you see?
10:52And I saw the whole sequence.
10:53What did you see?
10:54How they were breaking the car,
10:55how they were trying to escape.
10:58What did they tell you at first?
11:00Did you see the two men hitting the glass of the car?
11:02I honestly say that my mind was clouded,
11:04I got nervous,
11:05my body began to tremble,
11:06and it's like I saw the sequence,
11:08but I didn't get to see the faces of the criminals.
11:12Well, we'll be back in a little while.
11:14Did you see how they shot?
11:16Yes, because the truth is that we are concerned.
11:18We are concerned about this issue.
11:20There you heard a witness who saw everything.
11:23We are going back to Rafael Castillo,
11:26because people today see death live.
11:29Not only the security cameras take the images,
11:31but the neighbors themselves,
11:33from their windows, from their balconies,
11:35they see how the criminals kill those who grew up
11:39in the same neighborhood,
11:41how they take their lives.