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00:00Interviewer Hayashi Osamu
00:03Tonight
00:05He was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Movie
00:08and Tony Award for Best Drama
00:13Tom Cruise
00:16Leonardo DiCaprio
00:20The big star who Japan is proud of
00:25Ken Watanabe
00:37Hollywood star, Ken Watanabe
00:42Tonight, a precious two-shot with his daughter, Ant
00:46It's so convenient
00:50The first ever TV appearance of a cosplay video
01:01Also, a two-shot where he saves DiCaprio's life in Fuyuyama
01:10He has appeared in 15 foreign movies
01:14And many hit films
01:19The Last Samurai, starring Tom Cruise
01:24The Letter from Iwojima, starring Clint Eastwood
01:33And Leonardo DiCaprio, starring in Inception
01:37Ken Watanabe is highly rated
01:41He's a great actor
01:44Japanese people should be proud of him
01:49The Japanese actor who Hollywood needs the most
01:53Watanabe Ken
01:55No, Ken Watanabe
01:59Thank you so much for coming to this show
02:02You're welcome
02:03Thank you for taking care of my daughter
02:05Thank you too
02:09I don't think you show up here often
02:13I do sometimes
02:16But I don't remember
02:18That's not true
02:19You're starting from the moment you appear
02:22It's okay
02:23The TV show I remember the most is
02:27Koshien's Net Ura
02:31The strike
02:33I've seen it many times
02:37Ken Watanabe is a big fan of Hanshin Tigers
02:43When he finds time to appear in a Hollywood movie
02:47He's a great actor
02:54He looks normal
02:56He looks like a scout
03:00When the game starts
03:07The game starts
03:13He claps faster than anyone
03:16When he's in a pinch
03:25He screams and cheers
03:29He's too good
03:31When I watch baseball
03:33I don't drink beer
03:35He's enjoying baseball
03:38That's why he's so good
03:42Do you live in Nagano?
03:45I don't care where I live
03:49But when I'm away from work
03:53I have to spend time with actors
03:57You're usually in Nagano
03:59I heard you went to his concert
04:07He's a big fan of Hollywood
04:11He goes to his concerts
04:14He's a big fan of Aimyon
04:16He's blushing
04:18Let me say hello
04:21A lot of Aimyon fans are in their 50s and 60s
04:26I didn't feel uncomfortable
04:30What's your favorite song?
04:33I like songs from my early days
04:36But my recent favorite is Neko ni Jealousy
04:49You were singing at his concert
04:51Yes
04:54I don't need that
04:56I even remember the fake
04:58Ken Watanabe is a Hollywood star
05:04Ken Watanabe is 65 years old
05:08He loves Aimyon and Hanshin
05:11He met two actresses in France
05:23Mr. Hayashi, please take care of my father
05:26Thank you
05:28He's old
05:29It's rare to see him on TV
05:32Ken Watanabe's daughter, An
05:36How does she think of his father?
05:41It's a wonderful place
05:43I don't know
05:46He's better at housework than I am
05:55When I was a baby, my kids came to my house in Tokyo
06:01I had to put them to bed at 8
06:05And I had to stay in my room for about an hour
06:10During that time, the kitchen became clean
06:15I made simple snacks with leftover ingredients
06:19And I took my dogs for a walk
06:22It's so convenient
06:26Ken Watanabe is convenient
06:30Ken Watanabe has three granddaughters
06:37When I go to buy clothes, I think I should buy clothes for my granddaughters
06:44But I often buy clothes in different sizes
06:48For example, Y for 3 years
06:52And M for 3 months
06:55I bought a hat for a 3-month-old baby
06:59I don't know the size of the clothes
07:01It's difficult
07:04I remembered one episode
07:07My father plays the trumpet
07:12At that time, I was watching the movie
07:16I was watching it with my kids
07:19I asked my father if he would be happy if he sent me a trumpet
07:27He said yes
07:29And he sent me a trumpet because I practiced
07:32I think it's cool
07:35At that time, I wore a hat and a vest
07:39I wonder if he sent me a trumpet
07:44I sent my granddaughters a trumpet
07:49This is a private video
07:56Wait a minute
07:58It's a trumpet
08:03Great
08:06Great
08:08It's a fan copy
08:10Great
08:12Great
08:18The clothes are not tied up
08:20I can feel my grandfather's tears
08:29The narration is strange
08:31It's not tied up, it's rude
08:34There is no such thing now
08:37It's not tied up
08:39I tied it up with my hand
08:43I don't think I'm older than him
08:48I think he practiced for his granddaughters
08:52I remembered that I was very happy
08:56I heard that he went to see you last year
09:01I thought I could go
09:03Suddenly, I wanted to do a street live
09:06He told me to bring a mic stand and PA
09:11But I couldn't carry my luggage
09:13I had to carry my luggage
09:18I brought a speaker and a PA
09:22Did you bring it on board?
09:25Is that the live performance you did with Keiko Toda?
09:30Keiko Toda's street live in Paris
09:36Ken brought this
09:38I had an amplifier, so I was full of motivation
09:42It's not sudden
09:44I brought it
09:46It's a proof
09:49Kenjiji is a big fan of Aion
09:52He also raps for his granddaughters
09:58He is a world-famous actor in Hollywood
10:03His co-star is also a world-famous actor
10:09Tom Cruise, Leonardo DiCaprio, Killian Murphy
10:14He is a world-famous actor
10:20Sanada Hiroyuki won the Emmy Award
10:26They will talk about their bond
10:30I'm curious
10:34Osamu Hayashi will talk about his Hollywood career
10:38And his movie, The Last Samurai
10:43I asked Masaru Akai to be our guest
10:48What's the theme?
10:50Tai-San-Boku
10:52It's a 10-meter-tall tree
10:54It's famous for its beautiful flowers
10:57I thought this tree would be perfect for Kenjiji
11:03All the leaves are facing up
11:06It's perfect for Kenjiji
11:13The movie that made him famous
11:18A mega-hit movie with a record of 1.4 billion yen
11:24The Last Samurai
11:28He won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor
11:34He became a Hollywood star
11:40Ken Watanabe was 44 years old
11:44He auditioned for the role
11:51Did you get the answer?
11:55I don't think so
11:58I said, I passed the audition
12:02I didn't say when I would shoot
12:05You didn't?
12:06I heard that you have to sign a contract
12:11That's not true
12:12I still don't have one
12:13You don't?
12:15Some people think it's a pain
12:22Some people want me to do this
12:25Some people want me to do that
12:31But I rarely do that
12:35So when I'm done with work
12:38I just sign a contract
12:41I know it's a bad thing to say
12:44But did you know how much the movie would cost?
12:47I knew that a while ago
12:50Of course you would agree
12:54I can make more money if I work in Japan
12:58It's a big budget movie
13:01I thought you got a lot of money
13:04I'm treated like a newbie
13:07After the audition
13:10If I work in Japan for 8 months
13:13I can make a little more money
13:18Maybe half of what I made
13:21But you were happy with the result?
13:24It's a big deal
13:27I made a big name for myself
13:32Because of this movie
13:35Another Japanese actor decided to go to Hollywood
13:39And he is...
13:49Actor Hiroyuki Sanada
13:54This year, he won the Emmy Award
13:59He has been in 18 movies
14:07He is the lead actor and producer
14:14He starred in The Last Samurai
14:18Ken Watanabe talked about it for the first time
14:23Did you talk to Ken Watanabe?
14:26Yes, of course
14:28Ken's girlfriend?
14:30What kind of picture is that?
14:32He is really friendly
14:34What will happen if I interview him?
14:37Have you met Sanada?
14:39Yes
14:40Since The Last Samurai
14:42We have been hanging out together
14:45Is that so?
14:47Where?
14:48He came to my apartment
14:50And asked me how I was doing this year
14:52And if I should stop using my body
14:56So I drank a lot
14:59And said, see you next year
15:01I see
15:03You shouldn't put the camera in
15:08What do you think about this award?
15:12Sanada is a producer
15:16So he can say what he wants to say
15:23His hard work
15:27He brought great actors and staff from Japan
15:33He was very considerate
15:37He has the power of a producer
15:41I think that's why he won the award
15:45Many young Japanese actors go to Hollywood
15:50Do you have any tips to be successful?
15:59I think
16:02Don't give up on what you have done
16:05Have faith
16:07And
16:09You don't have to give up on everything
16:15If you can use both
16:19I think you will be successful
16:22What did you focus on?
16:27If it's a Japanese film
16:31I want to speak in the same way as I speak in Japanese
16:39If it's in English
16:42It will be too much
16:46But Samurai doesn't do that
16:49So I want to speak in the same way as I speak in Japanese
16:58That's what I focused on
17:02He believes in himself
17:06His flexibility
17:12He crossed the sea at the age of 44
17:18He fought in the first world war for more than 20 years
17:24When I joined AKB
17:26I couldn't forget the poster of Last Samurai
17:30So I made the poster
17:34That's it?
17:37It was cool
17:39So I mixed the word Last Samurai
17:41And last year it was Last Kengai
17:44I made the costume by myself
17:48I'm a producer
17:50So this poster is very popular among fans
17:56And the result?
17:58Kengai
18:02Kengai
18:05You are Kengai
18:09You are Kengai every year
18:13Watanabe Kengai is fascinated by Hollywood stars
18:21Leonardo DiCaprio respects him
18:27There are many legends between them
18:33First
18:35Watanabe Kengai saved DiCaprio's life
18:40This is a movie
18:42It's a big story
18:44I always bring rice balls to the scene for emergency evacuation
18:53For emergency evacuation?
18:56It's okay to have lunch at 2 or 3
19:02I was shooting in the mountains of Calgary, Canada
19:07It was very cold
19:09I was so hungry that I thought I might freeze
19:13So I took off my jacket
19:15There were 2 rice balls
19:17I asked if I should eat
19:20He said he would
19:22The rice balls were very cold
19:26That's how it was
19:28We were freezing
19:30We were eating cold rice balls
19:33Kengai helped you?
19:35Yes
19:37He also saved DiCaprio
19:41What's going on?
19:44In Inception, Ban falls into the water
19:49Everyone escapes from there
19:52It's a dream story
19:54I shot that scene about 10 times
19:5910 times?
20:02But I couldn't breathe
20:07I thought it was Karin
20:10You have a lot
20:12I had Amanatto and Karin
20:16I asked if I should eat
20:19He said no
20:21It was a bird poop
20:25I asked what it was
20:27He said it was a dog poop
20:31I ate it
20:33Everyone said it looked delicious
20:38Why did you eat it?
20:42Because
20:45He won the Academy Award in America
20:50He also won the Japan Academy Award twice
20:56He has a long career
21:01What will happen to Ken Watanabe?
21:04I like Inoki's impersonation
21:15What is this?
21:18You can't see this in Hollywood or Broadway
21:22Ken Watanabe's impersonation
21:30We were waiting for this
21:35Next
21:37Ken Watanabe was found by world-famous actor Yukio Ninagawa
21:42He was brought up by Shintaro Katsu
21:46He is the origin of Ken Watanabe
21:53Ken Watanabe was born in 1959 in Sankanbu, Niigata
21:59When he was 19, he went to Tokyo to become an actor
22:04His life as an actor began as a member of Enno Kenkyusei
22:10In the second half of his first year as a member
22:14He auditioned for a role in a western theater
22:22He was one of the top actors
22:26He was the main actor
22:30He was the main actor?
22:32Yes
22:33Is that how he became famous?
22:35Yes
22:37Life must have been hard
22:40My parents sent me only rice and somen
22:45That's how I got a job
22:47That's when I started eating onigiri
22:51Onigiri is an important part of your life
22:55From now on, I'm going to eat onigiri
22:59What?
23:00From now on, I'm going to eat onigiri
23:05That's too harsh
23:07I can't take it
23:09Be more comical
23:11Why doesn't the world-famous actor Ken Watanabe say something?
23:17Now, let's see the example of the most popular actor, Sawabe
23:27Onigiri is an important part of your life
23:30From now on, I'm going to eat onigiri
23:32How can you do that?
23:34How can you eat onigiri?
23:36How can you eat onigiri?
23:38He's laughing
23:40He's laughing
23:41Thank you
23:42That was great
23:44That's all I can say
23:47Ken Watanabe's acting career is flourishing
23:50because he was found by Yukio Ninagawa in his first year of debut
23:56In fact, the producer of NHK, who was watching this stage,
24:00fell in love with Ken Watanabe
24:02and started to work on his films
24:06At the age of 26, he played the role of a heroine in Asadora and Hanekon
24:12Moreover,
24:15When I was playing Asadora,
24:17I was told that I should play only the horse and the shield
24:21because there might be a big historical drama next year
24:25So, I spent a year preparing for Asadora
24:30The day before the press conference,
24:33I was told that I should go to the press conference
24:37I asked what kind of press conference
24:39They said it was a Thai drama
24:41I asked what I should do
24:43They said I should play the leading role
24:45I didn't even have a suit
24:48So, I rushed to buy it
24:50Amazing
24:51The drama he played for the first time at the age of 28
24:55That is...
24:57Mr. Oshida!
24:59He played the leading role for the first time?
25:01It was a Thai drama with an average viewing rate of 39.7%
25:06Masamune Dokuganryu
25:10This is a national hit drama with a history of 61 years
25:14It was a national hit drama with a history of 61 years
25:18It was the main work of Watanabe
25:22He played the leading role for the first time? Amazing
25:25In fact, this drama has the first meeting episode
25:28with the great star of the Showa era, Katsushin Taro
25:34Katsushin-san appeared
25:35They met for the first time in the drama
25:38It is a historical scene called Oda-Wara Sanjin
25:43Katsushin-san played Toyotomi Hideyoshi
25:48Watanabe-san played Date Masamune
25:53Before the shooting
25:56When Katsushin-san was doing a make-up test
25:58I said I should say hello
26:02Katsushin-san was looking at me through the mirror
26:05I said,
26:07I'm Watanabe, nice to meet you
26:11Katsushin-san was looking at me through the mirror
26:14I said,
26:16Let's meet at Oda-Wara
26:21I think it was the first time in history
26:25I think so
26:27It was reproduced in real
26:29It was like a prank
26:31We didn't meet face to face
26:32Even in the dorm
26:35We took turns
26:43Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Date Masamune
26:47Katsushin-san and Watanabe-san
26:51They reproduced the tension between each other
26:57It was a rehearsal
26:59This is the legendary first meeting scene
27:04Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Katsushin-san
27:25They didn't say a word for about a minute
27:29This scene became a famous scene in Taiga
27:41I can't breathe
27:43He doesn't know what's going to happen
27:47Really?
27:49Because he has ptosis
27:52He usually has a glue on his eye
27:56I used to apply it to my eyelashes
27:59When I had eye boogers
28:01I used to leave it as it was
28:06But he said,
28:08It might be removed
28:10So I had to remove it
28:12I had to wear a mask
28:16It's not in the script
28:18But there's a possibility
28:20I was in the same situation as Masamune
28:26He doesn't know what's going to happen
28:29That's why he learned from Katsushin-san
28:32that he can act realistically
28:35Even now, after 30 years,
28:38he is still drawn from Watanabe-ken to Kouhai
28:44In Segodon, a Taiga drama in 2018,
28:48Watanabe-ken plays Hanshu of Satsuma-han
28:52Ryohei Suzuki plays Takamori Saigo, who can be used for Hanshu
28:58How was their first encounter?
29:02The first thing I did was sumo
29:07It was the first time I saw Hanshu in sumo
29:11I didn't think about the technique
29:14I just did it
29:18Ryohei-san was under a lot of pressure
29:21He said, I'm going to win
29:23I really had to lose
29:25After I lost, he threw Hanshu away
29:28and put it in the cage
29:31I said, I'm going to win
29:35We fought with a cowardly hand
29:39At that time, the problem was this
29:42It was rusty
29:51Watanabe-ken ignored the script of losing
29:54and went to win with a little dirty hand
29:57This is Gachi Sumo
30:00I'm not good at it
30:03I'm not good at it
30:06Oh, I got a strike
30:09Really?
30:11It was close
30:20He's serious
30:23I'm going to use all my strength
30:25Oh, he threw it away
30:29I see. So that's the kind of result
30:32Maybe if I knew everything about my future and acted,
30:38I wouldn't be able to explode.
30:42If I knew what was going to happen first,
30:47and I knew what was going to happen next,
30:51I would change my face.
30:54I can't do the same thing,
30:58but I want to keep that spirit alive.
31:07His first major drama was a big hit,
31:10and he was expected to become a top actor.
31:16Two years later, at the age of 29,
31:22he developed acute myelitis.
31:26When he was 56 years old,
31:29he was diagnosed with cancer.
31:37His life as an actor was a battle against despair.
31:47Next, we will take a look at Watanabe's life
31:51as a 40-year-old actor.
31:57In fact, Watanabe has been acting as a side character
32:01since he was 40 years old.
32:04I have the impression that you've been acting as a side character.
32:09I've been acting as a side character on purpose.
32:13Why is that?
32:15In my late thirties,
32:17I was told that I didn't have to get treatment,
32:20and that I didn't have to try new things.
32:23I think I was very fortunate.
32:26I was able to do three series on TV.
32:29A period drama and a modern drama.
32:33The producer and the production team
32:36told me that I could keep doing it.
32:40But I think that I wasn't able to
32:42do what I wanted to do.
32:45I wasn't able to do what I wanted to do.
32:49I thought that I had to organize my thoughts.
32:52I thought that I had to organize my thoughts.
32:55I said, I'm very sorry.
32:57I decided to end all three series.
33:00But I quit.
33:02In my forties,
33:04I decided to try something I wasn't interested in.
33:09This is what he said about his feelings at that time.
33:15After a disease,
33:17it's a life of a bonus.
33:21Because it's a life of a bonus,
33:24he chose a path where he could challenge himself
33:27as a side character,
33:29rather than the stability of the main character of the series.
33:32It was his determination to light a fire in his heart again.
33:37And the series he met was...
33:41The legendary popular drama,
33:44Ikebukuro Westgate Park.
33:48In this series, Ken Watanabe
33:50plays a comical police chief
33:53who overturns the previous serious image.
33:57He even shows his strange face in the ad-lib.
34:01Kudo Kankuro-san, who wrote that,
34:04is he really young?
34:06Yes, he is.
34:08When I saw the script, I was like,
34:10what the hell is this?
34:12It's so fast.
34:14I don't know why,
34:16but Mitani-kun is the same.
34:19Mitani-kun is still in his twenties.
34:21I'm doing the two-hour drama he wrote for the first time.
34:25After all,
34:27the two of them overturned the script.
34:30Wow, what's that?
34:32I thought I was going to fall off the floor.
34:34What the hell is this?
34:36That was the script.
34:38But that kind of thing is more interesting.
34:41I was a little excited.
34:44I see.
34:45So, in that flow, this I'm...
34:48Well, I liked Inoki-san's imitation, too.
34:51Is that so?
34:52No, no, no.
34:54You just did it.
34:56No, no, no.
34:58The reaction is strange.
35:01Is there anything you can add to the ad-lib?
35:03Well, that's right.
35:06Hello, everyone.
35:08No, it was good evening.
35:11Wait a minute.
35:13I've been waiting.
35:14I've been waiting.
35:16I've been waiting.
35:18I'm not the main character.
35:20I'm trying to challenge various aspects or characters.
35:26I think the Last Samurai came to be a little by little.
35:34He tried to play the role of Wakuyaku because of his illness.
35:38As a result, it led to the Last Samurai.
35:43However, behind the challenge with Haryu,
35:46there was a steady effort.
35:50Before the Last Samurai,
35:52Ken Watanabe couldn't speak at all.
35:55Is that so?
35:56He studied hard for four to six hours every day for six months.
36:01He mastered English in his forties.
36:28He challenged himself again at the age of 15.
36:38His first Broadway musical.
36:40The main role of the King and I.
36:44Of course, the lines and the song are all in English.
36:48Performing the stage in English.
36:51It's amazing.
36:54It's a song like a tongue twister.
36:57It's a very old-fashioned English tongue twister.
37:01And it's a fast song.
37:04And the music director is a very strict person.
37:08I thought he was bullying me.
37:10I thought he was a powerhouse.
37:13One phrase.
37:18I can't go any further.
37:22I was sick at that time, so I took a trainer.
37:26He was watching the practice.
37:29He said,
37:30When you practice singing, don't make me hold a sharp object.
37:33I might really stab him in the eye.
37:37Is it that strict?
37:39It's like this.
37:40It's really a little bit.
37:42That's enough to become a brain tumor.
37:46And during the performance with the King,
37:48I found out that I had a stomach ulcer.
37:51At that timing.
37:53Seeing her father fighting,
37:56Anne, his daughter,
37:59I thought it was amazing for the first time.
38:04I feel like I'm thinking ahead.
38:07That's right.
38:13The Broadway musical starring Ken Watanabe,
38:17The King and I.
38:18The King and I.
38:20About three hours of stage.
38:22Eight times a week.
38:23Eight times a week?
38:24It turned out to be a stomach ulcer in the middle of such a harsh performance.
38:29Only one month until the next performance.
38:32There was also the option of being treated here.
38:38When I had a very detailed conversation with the doctor,
38:44If possible,
38:46I'd like to go back to New York a month later.
38:52We talked about that.
38:55Can you think of a surgery that can be done in that time?
39:00Mental and physical burden.
39:05Despite facing two trials,
39:07Ken Watanabe returned to the Broadway stage and made the performance a great success.
39:14Seeing that, Anne, his daughter and colleague,
39:20When I saw the performance of The King and I in America,
39:27I thought it was amazing for the first time.
39:31I feel like I'm thinking ahead.
39:35I felt amazing from the bottom of my heart.
39:38That's why I started acting at that time.
39:44That's why it's so difficult to dance and sing in English in a foreign country.
39:54It's just my imagination, but when I realized it,
39:59I thought it was amazing.
40:03In this work, Ken Watanabe gained world-wide acclaim again.
40:08He was nominated for the Tony Award, the highest award in the world of theater.
40:13It was the moment when he became the Ken Watanabe of the world in theater.
40:22And even now, in his 60s, the challenge of Ken Watanabe continues.
40:28Is this your first appearance in a Disney movie?
40:30Until now, I just didn't have a voice.
40:34I've always wanted to do it.
40:37The Disney movie will be released on December 20th.
40:40Lion King Mufasa
40:43Ken Watanabe will play a villain who threatens the main character in a vast savannah in Africa.
40:49He challenged the Japanese dubbing of Kyros.
40:51Mufasa
40:55There's no such trap anymore.
40:58I'm the new king.
41:02My role is Kyros.
41:05He's a lion.
41:08They are the lions who are excluded from the lion society and the animal society.
41:17They live side by side.
41:19The majority of the animal society and the pressure are born.
41:25I think it's a very similar structure to the current human society and the world.
41:32Were you challenged to sing in the movie?
41:35It was a very complicated song.
41:39That's the end of your experience, right?
41:42But in the end, there are three walls.
41:46You have to match it to the mouth of the animal.
41:50It's not a human mouth.
41:52You have to match it to the lip made in English.
41:57It's an African sound.
42:01It's a song like this.
42:04It's like you're saying goodbye.
42:09That's the kind of song it is.
42:11It's like you're singing while you're in a mess.
42:16You've cleared the third wall.
42:18I enjoyed the third wall.
42:21The theme is the bond of the family.
42:24Is the bond of your own family the end?
42:29Kami has been supporting me from the London concert.
42:41My first album, Non-Bias, will be released on December 25th.
42:46I'm determined to break the prejudice against me.
42:52Please check out my new first album.
42:57The theme is the bond of the family.
43:00Is the bond of your own family the end?
43:03The reason why I was diagnosed with cancer was because of my girlfriend.
43:19Kami has been supporting me from the London concert.
43:28I think it's thanks to my family that I'm able to work.
43:33Kami is 65 years old and has always challenged himself.
43:46What is the most important thing in his life?
43:51What is the most important thing in your life?
43:57I can't work for 30 or 40 years.
44:01I want to be able to take a stance that I can always demand from others.
44:09I want to be able to take a stance that I can always demand from others.
44:13I want to take a lot of things that I'm interested in.
44:23I want to take a lot of things that I'm interested in.
44:26He wants to take a new challenge in his life.
44:32He will talk about it after the recording.
44:37Is it okay to talk about this?
44:40What do you think about Fujikawa Hanshi next year?
44:44I have to get results.
44:46I have to get results.
44:47When I don't get results, I'm noisy.
44:56He will continue to chase his dream.
45:01He is serious.
45:03He is passionate.
45:05He is passionate.
45:07Thank you for watching this year.
45:11You can watch the first episode on TVer.

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