Kashif Abbasi ask important question to Javed Latif
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00:00This is right. He is saying what I was saying to you.
00:04When they came, they were on some other basis that we will fix it, it is not a problem for us.
00:09But when it went wrong, then this slogan was put.
00:11So this also happens in politics, like you are a storyteller,
00:13which is said that your storytelling did not work.
00:15This was the attempt to make it.
00:17What Mr. Zubair is talking about, I had said the same thing.
00:21I had said that to improve the economy or to manage the state,
00:28to give stability, what we had said could not benefit the state.
00:35Now Mr. Kashyap said that you speak very clearly with clarity that politics was also there.
00:43I also admit that politics was also there.
00:46I say that politics was also there and it will also happen in someone's mind,
00:52if you are saying politics, that he must also want to fix the state.
00:56Do not doubt his intentions.
00:58Now let's come, I am addressing both the things.
01:01I say that politics was also there and it was also fixing the state.
01:06Neither the politics was fixed, nor did it benefit the state.
01:09Now the thing is that what you wanted to ask,
01:14was anyone supporting at that time?
01:18Absolutely.
01:19I say that someone had their own flag, someone had their own goal.
01:25Someone had thought that if Imran is removed or neutralized,
01:32these people will come.
01:34Because Imran Khan himself admits that I used to tell the authorities to pass the bill,
01:42and they used to fulfill the members.
01:44There is no difference yet.
01:45When he became neutral, there was a difference.
01:47Listen, this has not happened recently.
01:49I was there.
01:52You look elsewhere to fulfill the purpose.
01:54Sometimes you take someone, sometimes you take someone else.
01:56One second.
01:57Kashif, one second.
01:59Kashif, please one second.
02:00One second.
02:01I understand your emotions, your desires and needs.
02:07Am I saying wrong?
02:08But allow me to talk.
02:09Okay, first say in one sentence that I am saying wrong.
02:11I am saying this to you.
02:12Mr. Mian, say that I have said wrong.
02:14That you are not picking up people,
02:16that you have not picked up their families so that you can take their votes.
02:19Kashif, one second.
02:21I am saying wrong.
02:22Kashif, please one second.
02:23First say this.
02:24Please one second.
02:25First listen to me.
02:26Sir, first say this.
02:27Because you are saying that it is my desire,
02:29you said that Imran Khan used to say that he used to do that.
02:33I am saying that it is the same.
02:34One second.
02:35How did you make the 26th amendment without the majority?
02:37No, this is not appropriate.
02:39This is not appropriate.
02:40Sir, answer my question.
02:42You have made such a big accusation of my desire,
02:44answer my question.
02:45I will answer.
02:46If you give me a chance, I will answer.
02:48Tell me.
02:51I am telling you that before your question,
02:54I had said that what happened in 2018 was wrong
02:59and what is happening in 2024 or what happened was wrong.
03:03That is also wrong.
03:04I am saying this before.
03:05And the state is not benefiting from this,
03:08the system is not benefiting,
03:09the nation is not benefiting from this.
03:11And neither can it be.
03:13I am saying that look,
03:15today if you compare,
03:18if you compare the time of Nawaz Sharif from 2013 to 2017,
03:25then that is not appropriate.
03:27You can say that 2018 and 2024,
03:31you can compare this,
03:33but please do not compare it with 2013.
03:36I have not compared it with 2013.
03:38I have only compared the hybrid system of 2018 with the hybrid system of 2024.
03:45These two are hybrid systems.
03:47You also look at the same,
03:48where they used to look at the legal system,
03:50they used to complete the numbers there as well.
03:52They have completed the numbers here as well.
03:54I will take a break.
03:55I need an answer to a question.
03:57Where am I going with the break?
03:59I will take a break.
04:01Mr. Zubair, I will start with you.
04:03Yesterday I had a very interesting debate.
04:06I think it was with Mr. Basit.
04:10What was the difference between 2014 and 2024?
04:16Space was given to the 2014 debate.
04:18They went and sat in D-chowk for the 2014 debate.
04:22Nothing was said.
04:23They sat there for 126 days.
04:25They did not let them sit in 2024.
04:27I will tell you what their thesis was.
04:30I received a message.
04:32I will tell you later whose message it was.
04:34They gave their view on it.
04:36What was their view on all this?
04:38I want to know your view.
04:40Let's take a break.