In the Luigi Mangione case, federal and state prosecutors may soon be at odds...
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00:00There is a dogfight going on in New York City, not with dogs, but with prosecutors.
00:06There is a, from all we can see, there is something going on in the Luigi Mangione case,
00:13specifically whether the feds are trying to bigfoot the state of New York
00:21and take the case from the state so that the feds can do it first.
00:26Right, because he's now been charged. Yesterday he was in federal court to face the charges that
00:32the feds have now hit him with. He had already been charged by New York State for murder and
00:40that was the case that, in fact, a lot of people involved in the case, including his attorney,
00:46thought he was going to be going into court tomorrow.
00:48Everybody did.
00:48Yesterday.
00:49They end up, there was a camera there that the judge approved.
00:53They were, the stage was set in New York court for Luigi to show up and face the judge
01:01and everybody thought that was going to happen. And when he was flown from Pennsylvania,
01:05he was taken to a federal facility by the FBI, which escorted him along with the NYPD.
01:11He is currently, right now, being held at Brooklyn MDC, the same place we've been talking about.
01:17A federal facility.
01:19The same place where Diddy is. And it is interesting that, although, look,
01:28just from the outside looking in, right, as a bystander, this seems like a New York case.
01:35The murder that was, Brian Thompson's murder, happened on the streets of New York. That's
01:40in dispute.
01:42It is absolutely a New York case. But New York is not saying it's also not a fed case. The feds
01:47have their own laws. It's a different sovereign. And you could prosecute both.
01:52The question is, who goes first? So there is a federal law here under which he would be
01:59prosecuted. And there is a state law under which. So it's not unusual that both would.
02:05But the train was on the tracks and going down the tracks on the state side. And the feds have
02:12now in a federal detention center and that the feds
02:16arraigned him yesterday. It feels like there's something going on here.
02:20Well, I mean, look, at the end of the day, the feds are going to be able to trump the state if
02:23they want to. But it is an odd case to bring as a federal crime. I understand that there are
02:28federal elements to it and they could do it. We saw this, of course, Harvey, in the case against
02:33Rodney King, the officers who beat Rodney King.
02:34I was just thinking of that.
02:36First tried as a state case.
02:37They were found not guilty. And then they've tried them in the federal system for civil
02:40rights violations and two of them got convicted.
02:43That's right. But typically this happens in Syriatim, where one will try them and then if
02:46they're you know, the state will go after them. And if doesn't get a conviction, the feds will.
02:50But here they're fighting for territory.
02:52Well, you got to remember, there is a difference. And the difference is
02:55that if he's convicted on the state court, the most he can get is a life in prison.
03:00On the federal side, he can get the death penalty.
03:03So the stakes are much higher for him on the federal side.
03:05We should say we've just laid out all those things. Definitely.
03:09Like you said, feels like a dog fight.
03:12On the record, the feds have said that Manhattan D.A. will get first crack at this.
03:19I know there was a there was a yeah, a window that said
03:22currently we think as it stands right now, currently Manhattan will go first.
03:28Well, currently, they also thought that he was going to be in state court and he wasn't.
03:38Yeah.