In 31 years the Premier League has seen some of the greatest strikers to ever play the game. But which among is the best ever? Shearer for his goals? Rooney for his ability? Henry for his va-va-voom? FourFourTwo's Adam Monk is joined by Adam Clery, Mark White, and Ryan Dabbs for an elimination tournament to find out.
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00:00Hello viewers of 442, Adam Monk here, joined with Adam Cleary, my co-presenter, Ryan Dabbs
00:11and Mark White.
00:15And today we've got a little, a special format really, something a bit new, almost like a
00:18game show.
00:19This, imagine an FA Cup draw, this is the ball, the hat, whatever you want to call it,
00:24and we've got 16 names in here which are the best strikers in Premier League history, according
00:29to us.
00:30Anyway, in a knockout format, we're going to draw them out and progress in a sort of
00:34tournament tree style thing to crown the best striker in the history of the Premier League.
00:39Right, who wants to draw first?
00:40You going in?
00:41Rob Stewart.
00:42Do two?
00:43Yeah, two.
00:44Two.
00:45Okay, right.
00:46Our first round is, Eric Cantonaur, before my time, will play Erling Haaland, ooooh.
00:59Probably the first striker and the most recent one.
01:01Okay.
01:02In the list.
01:03Right.
01:04Are we doing longevity here?
01:05Like, what are we doing?
01:06Because Haaland's been in the Premier League for a season and a bit, hasn't he?
01:08Well we discussed this when we were including Haaland, didn't we?
01:10We were like, he's not been around long, but I think if Erling Haaland retires tomorrow,
01:15he already goes down as one of the best Premier League strikers ever.
01:17But does he go down as the best striker?
01:19Then Eric Cantonaur.
01:20That's what we've got to find out, Mark.
01:21That's what we've got to find out.
01:22The legacy of Cantonaur.
01:23So, Cantonaur actually scored the first hat-trick in Premier League history.
01:29That's quite good.
01:30But Haaland scored 20 of them or something, as he says.
01:33Yeah.
01:34But he's got no iconic celebration like Cantonaur, yeah, but it's not the, there are, there's
01:40no...
01:41He had the entire, yeah, that is true, that is true.
01:44Cantonaur had a bit more drip, but we can't rank it on that.
01:47Can we not rank, can we officially not rank on drip?
01:49If we're doing a drip ranking...
01:50I think there's an element of that, like, iconic player.
01:54Haaland's just...
01:55I think we're going to lose every single viewer over 45 here when I say this, but I don't
01:59think Haaland is a dripless footballer by any stretch of the imagination.
02:02He makes his look work.
02:03He's very marvellous.
02:04You know what I mean?
02:05I think he's got...
02:06That sort of Viking aesthetic.
02:07What about when he let his hair down to score against...
02:08That was, that was, that was pretty good.
02:10They're stuck on it.
02:11I think they're both iconic for different generations, though.
02:14Yeah.
02:15I think, right.
02:16I think, I think we've got to vote.
02:17I think we've got to vote.
02:18We've decided as well, by the way, that if we come to a tie at any point, the person
02:22who drew gets the deciding vote, so I'll go last.
02:24Right.
02:25I will actually go with Eric Cantona.
02:26Cantona?
02:27Yeah, I will.
02:28Mark?
02:29I don't think you can look past how iconic Cantona was for the Premier League, so it's
02:35got to be Cantona.
02:36Cantona?
02:37Cantona.
02:38I'm going, yes, full house.
02:39I'm sorry.
02:40Sorry, Erling.
02:41Sorry, Erling.
02:42Maybe next year.
02:43Oh, yeah.
02:44Almost certainly next year.
02:45Cantona, next round.
02:46Let's go with that one.
02:48Oh, I wanted to do that so badly.
02:50Jamie Vardy.
02:51Jamie Vardy.
02:52Ooh.
02:53Versus?
02:54Disney Plus' Jamie Vardy.
02:56Still going, no?
02:57Versus Fernando Torres.
02:59Oh.
03:00Can I just come straight in here and say it's Torres by a mile?
03:03What?
03:04No.
03:05How many consecutive games did Torres score in?
03:07I don't know.
03:08Lots, probably.
03:09Premier League titles has Torres got.
03:10Yeah.
03:11No, we're not doing accolades.
03:12We're not doing accolades.
03:13He couldn't handle the Ā£50 million move to Chelsea.
03:16He couldn't.
03:17Torres, Vardy was offered a big move to a big club and he turned it down.
03:20When?
03:21To Arsenal.
03:22Arsenal, yeah.
03:23Turned it down.
03:24Well, the thing is, I would say the main thing about being a striker is the ability to finish
03:28in the box.
03:29I don't think I've seen a more deadly finisher in the box than Vardy perhaps in the last
03:33decade.
03:34I just...
03:35In terms of variety of finishing, burning him behind defences.
03:38He was a roadrunner but the very best at it.
03:40I'm not saying that Jamie Vardy's not a good striker.
03:44I'd say Fernando Torres, when he was really good, was almost peerless.
03:49But this is the thing, when he was really good, Vardy had been at a consistent level.
03:55If you want to go down that route, then Fleetwood Town's Jamie Vardy can't hold a candle to
04:00Fernando Torres.
04:01This is the thing.
04:02I think Torres' peak was higher than Vardy's peak.
04:05Yes.
04:06I think Vardy...
04:07I can't argue with that.
04:08...had a more consistent high level.
04:09I can't argue with that.
04:11Another way to look at it is Vardy, I think he started scoring in the Premier League at
04:1427.
04:15Had he started at a normal age, maybe Alan Shearer's record wouldn't be there.
04:19He played in the Premier League at 27 and he's still got over 100 Premier League goals.
04:22Pretty mental, isn't he?
04:23Yes.
04:24For Leicester?
04:25Yes.
04:26Oh, I don't know.
04:27I don't know.
04:28I've got him moments as well.
04:29I just...
04:30With Jamie Vardy, there's about five or six.
04:31He goes to the Hawthorns and he's just there giving fans the front row.
04:34I'll tell you what, I will say the one black mark against Torres, compared to Vardy, in
04:38my opinion, he's got no crack.
04:40Whereas Jamie Vardy was just like, I mean, given that the Crystal Palace, he just loved
04:44it.
04:45And then maybe that.
04:46It's when Torres cut his hair.
04:47That's when he fell off a cliff.
04:48He Samsoned himself, didn't he?
04:49All right.
04:50Okay.
04:51Well, let's vote.
04:52I'm voting Jamie Vardy.
04:53Yeah, I'm going to go Vardy.
04:54I'm sorry.
04:55It's easy.
04:56I'll go Torres.
04:57See what you do.
04:58Well, I'm going to go Torres still, as you drew them.
05:02It's my casting vote.
05:03And I think, yeah, I've got to go with Jamie Vardy.
05:06Well, like I say, I think he's a world-class striker.
05:08Okay.
05:09Jamie Vardy.
05:10Okay.
05:11I've got Luis Suarez.
05:13Ooh.
05:14Deadly.
05:15Deadly.
05:16Deadly.
05:17And he will play...
05:20Attention.
05:21Robin van Persie.
05:23Yeah, that's closer than I...
05:24That's tight, that, isn't it?
05:26Same era as well.
05:27Yeah.
05:28I'll just say, as somebody who drew this, and as somebody who...
05:31Robin van Persie, I've celebrated many of his goals.
05:34He's dead to me.
05:36Okay.
05:38Luis Suarez.
05:39Okay.
05:40I've got to go with Suarez because, simply put, I think...
05:43Okay, I'm too young to remember Thierry Henry in the Premier League, right?
05:46Don't admit that.
05:47Don't admit that.
05:48I think that he is the best player I've seen in the flesh and live on TV
05:53in the Premier League in my life.
05:54Suarez.
05:55I can remember, yeah.
05:56And I include...
05:57I'm a City fan.
05:58I include Kevin De Bruyne in that.
06:00I include Ronaldo in that.
06:02I think he is...
06:03That 13-14 season is the best I've ever seen from a player.
06:06I agree with that.
06:07I'm just going to pop a cherry bomb down the toilet of this video,
06:10by the way.
06:11Robin van Persie won the Premier League.
06:12He did.
06:13And Luis Suarez never did.
06:14And he moved to win as well.
06:16You know what, though?
06:17As well, he won the Premier League by scoring a hat-trick
06:19in the game that won him the Premier League,
06:20and the volley was incredible.
06:22Yeah.
06:23It was offside.
06:24Yeah.
06:25All right, all right, sure.
06:26I'll put it this way.
06:27I think...
06:28We're talking about this version of Suarez at the age he was
06:31in the Premier League.
06:32I don't think he could have had the seasons Van Persie had,
06:35but I think Van Persie,
06:36if he'd been in that Liverpool team,
06:37could have been that important.
06:39Is there a case that we're viewing Suarez
06:41through the lens of what he achieved
06:43after he went to Liverpool?
06:45No.
06:46No, I'm not doing that.
06:47He did have a very, very good 13-14,
06:49but we're almost convinced that it wasn't a fluke
06:52by what he did when he left,
06:54whereas some other players in the Premier League...
06:57This is a great point.
06:58This is a great point.
06:59This is a great point.
07:01And then they've gone on to, like,
07:03Jerome Dridge, Barcelona, and left.
07:05This is a great point.
07:06Suarez had the ban for biting Ivanovic,
07:09so he actually started...
07:10You're right, he's a much better banter, isn't he?
07:12Great, yeah.
07:13He started the season in October,
07:15and out of the 31 goals he scored,
07:17none were a penalty.
07:18They were all open play goals.
07:19We're just going to have to vote Suarez.
07:23I'm going to go with...
07:25I think Robin Van Persie is almost the perfect striker,
07:29but I think Luis Suarez is just a better footballer.
07:32Van Persie.
07:33Van Persie.
07:35I'm going to go Suarez.
07:37I'm going to completely ignore
07:39all the points I've just made about Van Persie,
07:41and I am going to just go Suarez.
07:43By a hair.
07:44He's through.
07:45By a tooth.
07:46First one out is Sergio Aguero.
07:49Oh!
07:50Right, here we go.
07:51Don't be a bit moderate.
07:52Don't be a bit moderate.
07:53Michael Owen.
07:54Oh, Aguero, man.
07:56Aguero's watched movies.
07:57Aguero's seen more than three films in his life,
07:59I'm willing to bet.
08:00Yeah, but has Aguero won a Ballon d'Or?
08:02He's got you all on over a rabbit.
08:04I think you can't overlook Michael Owen in Liverpool.
08:06And a Ballon d'Or.
08:07So go with it.
08:08I would just like to say,
08:09based on my personal lived experience with Michael Owen,
08:11I can overlook anything I want to overlook.
08:13Is he that good?
08:14As a Newcastle fan, are we talking here?
08:16Oh, he's just an absolutely despicable human being,
08:19purely in terms of his...
08:20And let's not forget,
08:21that was in the Premier League,
08:22so it does count towards this decision-making process here.
08:26I just...
08:27I think Sergio Aguero
08:28is arguably one of the most transformative signings
08:31any football...
08:32He's a bit of Patrick Vieira for me,
08:33in terms of, like,
08:34a team went from X level to Y level.
08:37Not entirely off the back of one player,
08:39but Aguero,
08:40I don't think they make that leap
08:42from sort of, like,
08:43credible challengers
08:44to dominant Premier League winners
08:46without Aguero.
08:47And he also did it for, like, a decade.
08:49He did it, yeah, consistently.
08:50But he's got you in A-plus goals.
08:51Could you argue that Michael Owen coming through
08:54for Liverpool at that time
08:56transformed Liverpool from being sort of
08:59also-Rans...
09:00To also-Rans.
09:02Well, they won a treble.
09:04Oh, they won A-treble.
09:05They won A-treble.
09:06They won a treble.
09:07They won A-treble.
09:08It set them up for...
09:09It set them up for a Champions League win in 2005.
09:12Which he wasn't a part of.
09:16I know who I'm going to vote for,
09:17but I do think Michael Owen
09:18was a transformative figure
09:19for Liverpool in his own right.
09:21Potentially, yeah.
09:22Potentially.
09:23Look, he's in the deflated football
09:25of the 16 greatest strikers.
09:26He's obviously done something,
09:28but I just, I think...
09:31I think there's an argument
09:33that Sergio Aguero
09:34is one of the greatest ever
09:35Premier League players, full stop.
09:43Absolutely not.
09:44No, I couldn't.
09:45No, I couldn't.
09:46And I no longer take the kind of things
09:47that would enable me to do that.
09:48So, no, that's completely out.
09:50Aguero.
09:51Aguero.
09:52Aguero.
09:53Go on, you little...
09:54Go on.
09:57We've got...
09:59Andy Cole.
10:00I presume it's Andy Cole.
10:01It is Andy Cole.
10:02Andrew Cole will play...
10:05Will play...
10:08Thierry Henry.
10:09This is Cole cutting dry this,
10:10isn't it, surely?
10:11This is just...
10:12Do we even need to...
10:13So...
10:14I mean, Thierry Henry was a striker,
10:15so...
10:16Well, that's a good point.
10:17Question for the Arsenal fan.
10:18Andy Cole obviously had
10:19one of the most iconic
10:20and catchy songs ever
10:21in the Premier League sung
10:22about him.
10:23Andy Cole.
10:24Andy Cole.
10:25Andy Cole.
10:26He gets all his goals a goal.
10:27Andy Cole.
10:28Yeah.
10:29Did the honouree have any songs?
10:30Yeah.
10:31Were they good?
10:32No.
10:33So, Cole does have him
10:34beat on one criteria.
10:35He told me he'd seen
10:36the new Ian Wright,
10:37said to him,
10:38how could this be?
10:39He told me his name was
10:40Thierry Henry.
10:41That's actually...
10:42That's not bad, actually.
10:43That's actually not bad.
10:44Are we just...
10:45Are we not...
10:46Can we make any argument
10:47for Andy Cole?
10:48And he didn't score
10:49That is impressive,
10:50to be fair.
10:51And he was
10:52arguably as good
10:54at a mid-table
10:55Blackburn Rovers side
10:56as he was
10:57at the top of the league
10:58with Newcastle
10:59and Manchester United.
11:00I will say...
11:01So, he deserves his credit.
11:02I will just say here,
11:03when Andy Cole
11:04signed for Newcastle,
11:05I had never in my life
11:06seen a football player
11:08as good as that.
11:09I did not know you could
11:10be that good at football
11:11or be that...
11:12Like, granted,
11:13I was
11:14five,
11:15five or something, right?
11:16I was an idiot, right?
11:17I still believed
11:18in Santa.
11:19I'd not seen anybody
11:20at that point, really.
11:21But...
11:22Sorry, mate.
11:23But...
11:24When Thierry Henry
11:25signed for Newcastle,
11:26which never happened,
11:27that didn't happen either.
11:28So, Cole's got that
11:29on Henry for me.
11:30That's true, yeah.
11:31Thierry Henry
11:32has never done it
11:33at Newcastle.
11:34He's never done it.
11:35He's never done it
11:36at Keegan's Newcastle.
11:37But then,
11:38Andy Cole never did it
11:39at New York Red Bulls,
11:40so...
11:41Yeah, well...
11:42Henry...
11:43Henry for me.
11:44Best goal-cutter log in
11:45of any Premier League player.
11:46Oh, yeah.
11:47Andy Cole.
11:48Yeah.
11:49Agreed.
11:50We have got...
11:51Absolutely gagging
11:52for Shearer.
11:53Come out here.
11:54We've got Wayne Rooney.
11:55Oh, if it's...
11:56Don't be.
11:57Don't be.
11:58No!
11:59Right.
12:00It's been a while.
12:01It's been a while.
12:02In parallel worlds,
12:03Rooney replaced Shearer
12:04at Newcastle.
12:05Yeah.
12:06Yeah, that's true.
12:07But not in this one.
12:08And that's the one
12:09we're going to vote in.
12:10So, I'm just...
12:11I'm just going to set my
12:12score up really early here.
12:13Alan Shearer
12:14should win
12:15this entire thing.
12:16We'll get to this
12:17whenever we draw
12:18somebody you disagree
12:19with that with.
12:20Possibly even now.
12:21But I think Alan Shearer
12:22is the greatest striker,
12:23not only of his generation
12:24but the Premier League
12:25has ever seen.
12:26And there is
12:27a statistical tally
12:28where you can measure
12:29strikers.
12:30It's called
12:31goals scored.
12:32And he is at the top
12:33of that.
12:34He did it in some
12:35of the most
12:36rank-minging
12:37Newcastle sides
12:38I have ever seen.
12:39He got,
12:40as we discussed
12:41the other day,
12:42in work,
12:43because we do all
12:44have jobs,
12:45he scored over
12:46200 Premier League
12:47goals.
12:48He's won a
12:49Champions League,
12:50he won countless
12:51Premier League titles
12:52and you'll say...
12:53And he was also
12:54the most tactically
12:55neglected player
12:56on this list
12:57because half the
12:58time he was at United
12:59he wasn't really
13:00even played as a
13:01No. 9
13:02and still serve it
13:03came up with that
13:04much output
13:05off his own accord.
13:06And the one season
13:07he was put as
13:08a No. 9
13:09by himself
13:10two games
13:11in a row
13:12and he was
13:13the number
13:14one by himself
13:152009-10
13:16was like
13:17the best season
13:18he's ever had.
13:19Brilliant player.
13:20Ridiculous amount
13:21of goals.
13:22No argument
13:23for me.
13:24Brilliant player.
13:25I think Shearer
13:26is...
13:27We were chatting
13:28about this the other
13:29day and Shearer
13:30is so underrated
13:31as a football
13:32player
13:33that people
13:34seem to see him
13:35on TV
13:36and assume
13:37that he was
13:38this kind of
13:39poacher
13:40just in the area
13:41just sort of
13:42waiting for...
13:43He's so good
13:44at crossing
13:45the football
13:46and that gets
13:47lost
13:48and the way
13:49Rooney could do
13:50all of that
13:51the better.
13:52Yeah, I mean
13:53Rooney was a very
13:54If Rooney was
13:55better than Shearer
13:56my friend
13:57why wasn't he
13:58better than Shearer?
13:59100%
14:00Rooney was
14:01better around
14:02football
14:03than Shearer
14:04but I think
14:05that it's
14:06sometimes lost
14:07how good Shearer
14:08was.
14:09It's not
14:10that much.
14:11It's that much.
14:12He was a good
14:13style of player
14:14to sort of
14:15offset the injury
14:16and still was
14:17scoring 20-25
14:18goals a season
14:19off the back of that
14:20and I don't know
14:21who else could do that.
14:22I think Rooney
14:23hit a greater height
14:24than Shearer
14:25career wise.
14:26He did.
14:27Because you've got
14:28to think about
14:29the narrative
14:30in the country
14:31on a national level
14:32at the time
14:33when Rooney
14:34was in Europe
14:35in 2004
14:36then when he
14:37got injured
14:38for the 06 World Cup
14:39it was like
14:40a front page
14:41and he was
14:42the most important
14:43person.
14:44The whole nation's
14:45hopes
14:46rested on his
14:47Hey look
14:48if we want to
14:49go down that route
14:50Shearer was the
14:51sort of heartbeat
14:52of the team
14:53of the year in 96
14:54and they got further
14:55in that tournament
14:56we'll just have to vote
14:57and I am obviously
14:58voting for Alan Shearer.
14:59Right so we've got
15:00one for Shearer
15:01I again do think
15:02Rooney's a better
15:03footballer
15:04and if I was to
15:05rank all these
15:06I would probably
15:07have Rooney
15:08in the top four.
15:09This is the best
15:10Oh this is tough
15:11isn't it?
15:12I mean it doesn't matter
15:13This is what
15:14knockout football
15:15is all about mate.
15:16Rooney's knocked out
15:17anyway regardless.
15:18My head says Rooney
15:19my heart says Shearer
15:20but
15:22yeah it's got to be Shearer
15:23He's the
15:24We can't knock out
15:25Got to be
15:26Got to be
15:27We can't knock out
15:28the
15:29We can't knock out
15:30the leading scorer
15:31of the Premier League
15:32in the first round
15:33that's just
15:34Yeah
15:35Rooney
15:36Well good job
15:37that doesn't matter
15:38for anything
15:39Come on
15:42Harold Cain
15:43Oh
15:44Harry Cain
15:45Cain, Rooney and Shearer
15:46all out in a three there
15:48Versus
15:50Robbie Fowler
15:51Well Harry Cain
15:52Well yeah Harry Cain
15:53No Fowler
15:54Robbie again
15:55I would like to
15:56I was waiting for Cain
15:57to come out of the hat
15:58so I could go
15:59yeah but has he won
16:00the Premier League
16:01and Robbie Fowler hasn't
16:03I would like there to be
16:04some sort of
16:05consideration for how much
16:06pattern a footballer
16:07has in all this
16:08Robbie Fowler is obviously
16:09a high, high pattern
16:10but I don't think he's
16:11so high pattern
16:12that catches up
16:13with Harry Cain
16:14Has Harry Cain ever
16:15been nicknamed
16:16a god player
16:17No he's never
16:18Harry Cain's just
16:19he's tofu isn't he
16:20like there's nothing
16:21to him really
16:22he's just a really
16:23efficient scorer of goals
16:24Yeah
16:25and a very good
16:26footballer
16:27and a very
16:28like he's genuinely
16:29probably the best
16:30all round player
16:31on this list
16:32Yeah
16:33And had he
16:34had he have remained
16:35in the Premier League
16:36he would be taking
16:37if his grandmother
16:38had wheels
16:39she would have
16:40been a bike
16:41so that's not
16:42happened so
16:43Are we doing this
16:44quickly
16:45I would just
16:46if you are watching
16:47this Robbie Fowler
16:48I would just like
16:49to say there's
16:50been loads of
16:51names come out
16:52that you genuinely
16:53probably could have
16:54beat but there's
16:55there's just some
16:56players on this
16:57that unless they
16:58get drawn against
16:59Shearer
17:00lol
17:01aren't going
17:02through to the next
17:03round
17:04and Harry Cain's
17:05one of them
17:06Didier Drogba
17:07Oh I didn't
17:08forgot Drogba was
17:09in this
17:10Against
17:11Ruud van Nistelrooy
17:12Oh
17:13lol
17:14Can I make
17:15the opening
17:16statement
17:19Can you yeah
17:21If this was
17:22who was the
17:23best striker
17:24Which it is
17:25Well
17:26who's the best
17:27Premier League striker
17:28Oh right
17:29okay okay
17:30Ruud van Nistelrooy's
17:31Premier League career
17:32outweighs
17:33Didier Drogba's
17:34I'd agree
17:35Didier Drogba's career
17:36outweighs
17:37Ruud van Nistelrooy's
17:39I wouldn't say
17:40that's a given
17:41Final goals
17:42I wouldn't say
17:43that's a given
17:44Final goals
17:45What he did in
17:46Europe
17:47It's all around
17:48ability as a player
17:49but what Ruud van Nistelrooy
17:50did in the Premier League
17:51slightly outweighs
17:52Drogba's career
17:53Here's the thing
17:54I think going back
17:55to that thing
17:56I said about like
17:57how a player
17:58can come in
17:59and be very much
18:00the one who takes
18:01them from one level
18:02to another
18:03I know Drogba
18:04and Chelsea
18:05were that version
18:06of Man City
18:07for a long time
18:08I think they had
18:09won the league
18:10prior to that
18:11so they were
18:12a little bit further
18:13down the line
18:14but they weren't
18:15like a top top team
18:16you know what I mean
18:17they had enough
18:18about them
18:19they had Mourinho
18:20I think Mourinho
18:21had Kezman in his first
18:22season
18:23Yeah and Goodjohnson
18:24Goodjohnson
18:25there was enough
18:26there to get over
18:27the line
18:28but they weren't
18:29going to establish
18:30themselves as a
18:31consistent Premier League
18:32winning side
18:33I think there was
18:34Alex Salah
18:35coming in and being
18:36there
18:37Joe Coles
18:38there was lots
18:39of them that
18:40contributed to that
18:41but I think
18:42without Drogba
18:43who teams were
18:44terrified
18:45I think people
18:46forget how much
18:47teams were just
18:48scared of him
18:49so even in games
18:50where he wasn't
18:51I would argue
18:52even in games
18:53where he didn't
18:54score
18:55he took up
18:56so much of
18:57the opposition's
18:58attention
18:59of how do we
19:00just deal with
19:01Drogba
19:03It's tough
19:04I think this is
19:05the hardest one
19:06this
19:07Van Nistelrooy
19:08Drogba
19:09are you going
19:10to ask yourself
19:11if you were
19:12building a team
19:13your first pick
19:14had to be one
19:15of these two
19:16Well it depends
19:17if you have
19:18David Beckham
19:19or not
19:20because Beckham
19:21and Van Nistelrooy
19:22was just unbeatable
19:23it was
19:24it was just
19:25unbelievable
19:26I think the thing
19:27is as well
19:28with Drogba
19:29there's a bit
19:30of a notion
19:31that he was
19:32he could take
19:33three kicks
19:34and he scored one
19:35in the FA Cup final
19:36he scored three
19:37kicks at Arsenal
19:38I think he was
19:39far more technical
19:40than Van Nistelrooy
19:41as well
19:42Van Nistelrooy
19:43only scored
19:44one goal outside
19:45the penalty area
19:46in this entire match
19:47what a stat
19:48what a stat
19:49Harlan's got two
19:50for City
19:51so they're pretty
19:52similar aren't they
19:53I think we're
19:54just going to
19:55have to vote
19:56Drogba
19:57Drogba
19:58yeah
19:59come back to me
20:00no
20:02I think I'll go
20:03Van Nistelrooy
20:04I'll go Van Nistelrooy
20:05I think I'll go
20:06Van Nistelrooy
20:07do you know what
20:08reluctantly
20:09don't
20:10you can't vote
20:11Drogba out
20:12in the first round
20:13who
20:14Van Nistelrooy out
20:15who pulled these
20:16did you pull these
20:17so if I go
20:18Van Nistelrooy
20:19regardless
20:20I'm gonna
20:21I'm gonna go
20:22Drogba
20:23just so that
20:24everybody knows
20:25that this was a tie
20:26this was a tie
20:27and that's it
20:28for the first round
20:29so now we will go
20:30into the ball
20:31redraw them
20:32and see what happens
20:33right we're ready
20:34to go again
20:35I cannot believe
20:36Wayne Rooney
20:37and Didier Drogba
20:38out but they are
20:39for some reason
20:40you're drawing again
20:41haven't you
20:42so
20:43here we go
20:44please Ross Stewart
20:45hit it
20:46okay right
20:47your first
20:48quarterfinal
20:49Sergio Aguero
20:50will play
20:54Harry Kane
20:55oh no
20:58wow
21:00okay
21:01just as open
21:02as an opening argument
21:03and I think it's Aguero
21:04yeah I do
21:05I do think it might be Aguero
21:06I think it's Kane
21:07and I think it's quite
21:08it's close
21:09like the thing is
21:10it's quite close
21:11why do you think it's Kane
21:12I think it's Kane
21:13you think it's Kane
21:14I think it's Kane
21:15I think he was a
21:16a better footballer technically
21:17I agree with that
21:18but as a
21:19purely as a better striker
21:20I think he can do a lot more
21:21yeah
21:22he can pass the ball
21:23but he's not better technically
21:24than Aguero was
21:25when he was a kid
21:26how many
21:27this isn't me
21:28trying to trip you up
21:29how many golden boots
21:30did he wear out
21:31he only won one
21:32really
21:33yeah
21:34yeah but
21:35yeah but he's got
21:36he's got the best goals
21:37to game ratio
21:38in Premier League history
21:39he was injured
21:40he was injured
21:41for several months
21:42throughout several
21:43title winning seasons
21:44for City
21:45and we like
21:46for instance
21:47Pellegrini
21:48when we won it with him
21:49Tory had to step up
21:50in his shoes
21:51because he missed
21:52the second half
21:53of the season
21:54and he still scored
21:5520 goals
21:56in that season
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26:18I know we all, I know we all get the thing about oh Suarez probably looks better than he was because of the team he was in
26:22and Van Nistelrooy was obviously, Van Persie, sorry.
26:25In the list.
26:26The two best footballers in the list are here right now, I would say that, yeah, I would say that.
26:29I would edge on Rui because of what he did in the Premier League.
26:32If it was over their whole career, I personally might say that Suarez edges on Rui,
26:36but purely in the Premier League, I think it's almost impossible.
26:41You could make a case that the 13-14 season from Suarez was better than any
26:45individual season that Thierry Henry ever has.
26:48I think you'd probably be wrong because he scored 30 goals in one season,
26:51he made 20 assists in another season.
26:53But you could make that argument, but again, I would say that's probably more a product of the
26:58fact that Suarez was in that team where it was all about him.
27:01Whereas Henry, yes, probably the best player in that invincible side,
27:05but surrounded by unbelievable football.
27:08Like Suarez was doing it with Joe Allen, you know what I mean?
27:10And like Henry was doing it with Patrick Vieira.
27:12And again, like you said, you remember Eric Cantona was like the icon of the 90s Premier League.
27:16The icon of the noughties was Thierry Henry.
27:18Yeah, I think we're all going Henry, aren't we?
27:21We're all going Henry, right.
27:23Okay, into the semi-finals, there is four left.
27:25We have Sergio Aguero, Thierry Henry, Alan Shearer and Eric Cantona,
27:29who's had a bit of an easy run.
27:31Tasty that, isn't it? Tasty that.
27:33Right, your first semi-final.
27:35Alan Shearer will play.
27:38It's got to decide, it's got to decide, it's got to decide.
27:40Oh no, the greatest striker in the history of the Premier League
27:42might get an easy ride through.
27:43Versus Henry.
27:48Why have you done that? That's the final.
27:50Why have I done that? Sorry.
27:54I mean, I've got to go with Thierry Henry.
27:55I think he's the best Premier League player of all time.
27:57And I don't, I think, I think your watch has ended.
28:02Right, can I just try and make the case here?
28:04Because don't get me wrong, I agree.
28:05I think this should be the final two.
28:07I agree with that completely.
28:09I would say again, Alan Shearer played for some of the worst football teams
28:14I've ever seen in my life.
28:15Thierry, you put Thierry Henry under Ruud Gullit and Kenny Dalglish
28:20and God bless him, Glenn Roda,
28:22and you see what happens to that man's goal scoring record.
28:25I don't think either of these men could have had the same career as the other one.
28:27They're two different footballers in different worlds,
28:30in different teams, with different abilities.
28:31But what I will say is, the adversity that Shearer had to go through
28:35to get that record, I think Thierry Henry doesn't get anywhere near.
28:39If you put the kind of challenges in front of Henry that Shearer had to overcome,
28:43I don't think Henry gets anywhere near the record, the career he's had.
28:46I don't think Shearer would have been able to do the French accent
28:48from the Bababoom up there.
28:49You don't know that. You do not know that.
28:52You do not know that.
28:52I also don't think Shearer would have been as good in the arsehole side as Henry was.
28:55Different team, different team though.
28:56I know it's a different profile, but like Henry is the only player
28:59I think I've ever seen in the Premier League where it's like,
29:02it's like, it's like a man playing against babies.
29:05Totally agree, totally agree.
29:06So far ahead of the rest.
29:08Yeah.
29:08For that, just on the eye test alone.
29:10Tell you what, I would have voted Shearer if he had more,
29:14if he had a better celebration.
29:15Just change it up.
29:16That's iconic.
29:16It's the most boring thing I've ever seen.
29:19It's not the knee slide though, is it?
29:20It's not the knee slide, just there.
29:21Look, look, Shearer was a product of Britain in the 80s.
29:25You grew up in a post-industrial town.
29:26They weren't worried about like dancing around corner flags.
29:29You were just bothered about putting the ball in the net.
29:31I thought he wasn't. I thought he was more than that.
29:33No, just...
29:34Right, we're going to have to vote on Ray.
29:37Is everyone going with on Ray?
29:38Honestly, everyone's going with on Ray.
29:39Well, I am going with, I am going, I went with Shearer.
29:43I went with Shearer.
29:44Well, Thierry's in the final.
29:47Sergio Aguero versus Eric Cantona.
29:54I mean...
29:55They're both similar in terms of how they've held their clubs.
29:58Yeah.
29:59Like, start.
30:00He's a transformative figure at Manchester Club.
30:02He's helped them go on and shape a dynasty.
30:04And I think the one thing that separates them is longevity.
30:08Which Aguero is.
30:09And I think probably about 100 odd goals.
30:11And 100 odd goals.
30:12Which is...
30:12Aguero was never banned for...
30:14For kicking a flag.
30:15You're right, that was really cool.
30:17That counts for counting off for me, not against him.
30:20Aguero would never have the bottle to do that.
30:22He would have just been like, oh, that man's being mean.
30:23Aguero two-footed David Luiz in the stomach at home at the Etihad.
30:28I did, I did.
30:28He was a hothead, Aguero.
30:29He did have that dog in him.
30:31Yeah.
30:32I mean, it's...
30:33Are you voting for Cantona?
30:34We know it's Aguero.
30:35We're all voting Aguero.
30:36We're all voting Aguero.
30:37We're all voting Aguero.
30:37If you're all voting Aguero, I'll vote for Cantona out of...
30:40He deserves a vote for this.
30:42A pity vote.
30:43As a nod to him.
30:43As a nod to him.
30:44He deserves a vote.
30:45As the coolest man on this list, he deserves a vote.
30:47Yeah.
30:47Right.
30:48So there we have it.
30:49Sergio Aguero versus Thierry Henry.
30:51In the final, could have gone a lot worse that, I feel.
30:54I think we've got two very, very big names and worthy names in the final.
30:58So...
30:59Do you want to just...
30:59I guess we'll draw.
31:00We'll see who the home player is, who the away player is.
31:03For sake of honouring the competition, so there he is, Sergio.
31:08And also, yeah, King Kun and Thierry...
31:13Henry.
31:13Oh, it says Alan Shearer.
31:15No way!
31:15Oh, we're going to have to honour the process.
31:18He's heated balls all over again.
31:20Well, it is Thierry Henry, so...
31:23I mean, it is Thierry Henry.
31:25It is Thierry Henry.
31:26Are we agreeing?
31:28Well, I think you can make the argument, certainly,
31:31because I think football changed so much between Henry and Aguero's era.
31:37I would argue they had similar impacts, similar records.
31:40I'd say it's actually far more impressive to think we've done it recently.
31:43Like the standards overall are so, so, so high now.
31:48And as well, the Premier League has changed so much.
31:50If you look at the other players that get brought in,
31:53like clubs like halfway down the league are going out and buying players
31:56that like the top clubs across Europe are all after,
31:58because they've got that kind of spending power now.
32:00To be at the very top of that league so consistently for so long
32:04is like, it's a different game.
32:06It's a different proposition entirely to when Henry was doing it.
32:09You know what I mean?
32:10And I think I'd honestly be tempted to go Aguero.
32:14As a City fan, I don't even know if I can.
32:17I don't know if I can.
32:18Has Aguero ever made anyone look silly?
32:20Like Henry made Jamie Carragher on multiple occasions
32:23like a very good defender.
32:25Look, like in Leaf 2 level.
32:28Yeah, he did.
32:29Kid, you know?
32:29He's just turning in his head.
32:31Yeah, look, he had Riz.
32:32He had Riz, whatever.
32:36Yeah, okay, I can't.
32:39I think my favourite on Regal is that flick up volley against United.
32:43Like Aguero doesn't have that in his locker.
32:45You wouldn't even think about that.
32:46Why is he thinking he can turn and volley?
32:49Mis-control it, obviously.
32:52Yeah, Aguero is probably...
32:54I do think Aguero was a better finisher in the box for what that's worth.
32:57Like I remember the goal he scored against Liverpool a couple of years ago
33:00where he was like on the byline
33:01and he smashed it through for the net against Alisson on his left foot.
33:04I will say that Aguero was much better in a penalty area than Thierry Henry.
33:08That's only because Thierry Henry barely played in a penalty area at all.
33:12He didn't need to.
33:13No, he drifted off left, like you say.
33:14He found that sad netting.
33:15Look, I will just clarify before I get absolutely roasted in the comments here
33:18that I absolutely think the answer is Henry.
33:20I'm just trying to see if we can make the case for Aguero.
33:22Final point on that.
33:23Final point on that.
33:24Henry, by his own admission, couldn't really cut it in a pep team.
33:28He was being asked to play in a position, like left wing, very rigid.
33:32He still won the treble in a pep team.
33:33He did, he did.
33:35Look, take it up with Thierry Henry, lads.
33:37This is not what I'm saying.
33:39He said he couldn't really cut it in a pep team.
33:41Whereas Aguero was a pep team.
33:43So how much stop?
33:44Aguero was being asked to play in a position that he's not...
33:47He had to adapt, though.
33:48Yeah, Aguero was told he had to adapt.
33:50His first couple of seasons under Pep, it was a little bit sticky.
33:53There was talk in 2016, in Pep's first season, that he was going to go in January.
33:58It was that bad.
33:58And like, he'd been completely frozen out of the team.
34:00This is before we had Gabriel Jesus.
34:02And then he came back and started under Nolito, if you remember Nolito as well.
34:07Do you remember Nolito?
34:08Yeah, so it was just disjointed.
34:10And then Aguero sort of glued it all together.
34:13But having said that, I mean, the best footballer I've ever seen in the Premier League,
34:17purely from YouTube, is Thierry Henry.
34:19And I was there, and it was still Thierry Henry.
34:21So it's got to be Thierry Henry.
34:23Thierry, Thierry, Thierry, Thierry, Thierry, Thierry.
34:26Well, there we go.
34:27Thierry Henry won.
34:28I don't think anyone can say that they're surprised, really.
34:31I'm certainly not, because I thought he would do when we started this.
34:34But it's nice to see, you know, who got near him.
34:37Anyway, I hope you enjoyed that.
34:38We'll probably be back with some more instalments, ranking wingers,
34:41centre midfielders, centre-halves, perhaps.
34:43So stay tuned.
34:45Hope you enjoyed it.
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34:49And we'll all see you very, very soon.
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