Zarurat hai teenon qaideen mil kar baithain,’ Rana Sanaullah ke bayan par Sher Afzal Marwat ka jawab
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00:00Mr. Rana has taken it a step further. He has said that seven names have been taken, I will add three more.
00:05One is Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif, one is Mr. Asif Zardari, one is Mr. Imran Khan.
00:11If these three people sit together, the problems of 70 years will be solved in 70 days.
00:14How close and reasonable do you find this suggestion to be?
00:20Look, our committee is a daughter and with them is Mr. Rana's party and the People's Party etc.
00:27So this is a daughter according to Mr. Khan's wishes.
00:30This means that these negotiations are being carried out on behalf of Mr. Khan.
00:33So there is no flaw in this that if Mr. Khan is released and comes back,
00:37the country that has been in the hands of Pakistan for the past two years,
00:44now I think we all have to come out of our egos and prove that we want a solution to these problems in the country.
00:55I think there is no flaw in this that Mr. Khan and these three people sit together and there is a need for it.
01:02You are saying that there is a need for it and there is no flaw in it.
01:06But do you think this is possible?
01:08Obviously, when Mr. Khan was in the position of the Minister of Foreign Affairs,
01:11he did not sit in a meeting like Corona, he did not sit with the opposition in a meeting like Kashmir.
01:17So now you think that the situation is different and he will sit?
01:22I think that political thinking should be changed.
01:25Noon and the people's party are neither beautiful nor untouchable.
01:30And if we sit with them in this, what does it mean that we hold on to the insistence that we do not want to sit?
01:38Because today they have taken power, the government is theirs.
01:45They have increased the number of people in the parliament on their form 47.
01:50Now, there was one way, as a result of which it came out on November 26.
01:55If we repeat this, then I think that the country will not be able to tolerate such tragedies again and again.
02:03There is nothing like that in this.
02:06And I think that the instruments, incidents, experiences have taught us a lot
02:12and Noon and the people's party have also understood a lot.
02:16Our establishment is under compulsion, I repeat again,
02:21under such compulsion, as a result of bringing this system to this place,
02:31they have become so involved in it that now they had to do what they have been doing to save themselves.
02:41Hmm.
02:43Okay, you guys sit down and find a solution to this.
02:46But I don't think that they are doing it with joy.
02:52When it started, it kept moving forward and then all the violations of human rights,
03:02the signs were snatched, the mandate was stolen,
03:05these things have now increased so much that now they cannot be covered up,
03:10except that you sit down with an open mind and reconcile them.
03:18Assume that these things have happened and what can be done to get these things out of the system?
03:26Okay, so can the instruments of the negotiations be based on Mr. Khan's release, Mr. Marwad?
03:33No, I think the first phase of the negotiations will be based on his release.
03:38The rest of the instruments will be based on him when he sits down with the establishment
03:46and they will reach an agreement.
03:51I mean, if this is the case, then what is the point?
03:54I mean, my question was before this that will Mr. Khan be able to get out of this?
03:57You are saying that this will happen in the first phase,
03:59in the second phase, you are pointing towards the reforms that the system needs
04:03so that the culture of co-existence moves forward and the country moves forward.
04:06If this happens, then what is the point?
04:08But I think there are a lot of people, maybe even I,
04:10may not be able to agree with your opinion even if I wanted to.
04:13I think this is very wishful thinking.
04:15Mr. Marwad, does this mean that you think that the establishment will move away from its position
04:21which they have expressed over the weekend,
04:23that things cannot get better on 9th of May without reaching its mastermind?
04:30Do you think they will move away from this position?
04:32Because they will be released only then, right Mr. Khan?
04:34Otherwise, they will not be able to.
04:36The establishment has to make a fuss on 9th of May.
04:41Because if you move away from the history of Pakistan on 9th of May,
04:45then there is no excuse for what has been done with PTI.
04:50But they will let it go?
04:52I mean, is it possible that they will keep saying things,
04:55Mr. Khan will also remain in his position,
04:57and then both of them will look at each other and things will move forward?
05:01Is it possible?
05:04Look, there is no doubt in this that
05:08under their own needs, they have been handling the situation and dealing with it.
05:15They have also fallen into such a trap
05:20that now to get out of this is only when there will be a settlement on a wide spectrum.
05:31Look, I am telling you,
05:33this very establishment was ready for Khan's settlement on 20th of December.
05:37But no one believed it.
05:39We used to have talks inside the house.
05:42Noon was also involved in this.
05:44So, these things are already understood.
05:47Khan's settlement and the political prisoners' settlement is the first step.
05:55When Mr. Khan will be released,
05:57because they will also want Mr. Khan to be in front of them at the time of the negotiations.
06:03And if such a thing happens, will Mr. Khan agree to it?
06:08That if it is said that,
06:10okay, you have come out of the lines,
06:12but for now, don't expect us to hold elections immediately.
06:16Let this system work.
06:18If we hold an election a year in advance,
06:20whatever it is, X, Y, Z,
06:22but it cannot be an immediate election.
06:24Can this be a middle way?
06:26Will Mr. Khan show his support in this?
06:30I think that,
06:32this is my personal opinion,
06:34middle way elections will be left to the circumstances.
06:41And regarding the recovery of the mandate,
06:44an understanding can be developed
06:47that the tribunals should be made independent.
06:54Because what they have made now,
06:56they have tried to make people from their own party as tribunal members.