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00:30What happened, how it happened, incidents and effects, comments and reviews.
00:38The court has been trying since the beginning.
00:41This time they tried to show their eyes.
00:45In my opinion, the problem of Jamaat-e-Islami is that
00:48Jamaat-e-Islami does not have the capacity of politics.
00:55Look, Mr. Imran Khan is going towards practical politics.
01:00He knows where the center of power is.
01:04There are videos in which they are asking to go to GHQ,
01:08Jinnah House, Court Commander House.
01:119th Way is a big political conspiracy of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
01:15If anyone is involved in its planning and execution,
01:20then in my opinion, no one should be forgiven.
01:24In this country, there is only one power to make decisions.
01:30Every year, there is a sugar scandal in this country.
01:33Why is it happening?
01:35Either mill owners are sitting in the parliament or sugarcane growers are sitting.
01:39There is a lot of misfortune in our country.
01:42The one who has a deal, then it becomes a matter.
01:50Now PTI is saying that we are oppressed, we are innocent.
01:55Those who have been harmed, they do not agree.
01:58This election act was established to cover up the corruption.
02:06Those are the people who decide who will rule.
02:09Those are the people who decide who will fall.
02:11Who will come in, who will go out.
02:13Who wants to go to jail, who wants to go to the Prime Minister's house.
02:16It will be impossible to make a corruption-free Pakistan without creating an institution of accountability.
02:27The election of Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman, the President of the Islamic Jamaat, is scheduled for April 2024.
02:32The election of Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman, the President of the Islamic Jamaat, is scheduled for April 2024.
02:35The election of Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman, the President of the Islamic Jamaat, is scheduled for April 2024.
02:48The election of Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman, the President of the Islamic Jamaat, is scheduled for April 2024.
02:56Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman has done wonders.
02:58The politics of the Islamic Jamaat has been lackluster for a long time.
03:06They have put energy and thrill into it.
03:12They have played a good role like the opposition.
03:16We saw a very active leadership of the Islamic Jamaat in Karachi.
03:20He was Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman.
03:21He used to give his opinion on every issue.
03:25He also fought for the election of the mayor.
03:30There is no doubt that Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman's visit has changed the politics of the Islamic Jamaat.
03:38The Islamic Jamaat needs a lot of introspection.
03:41Introspection because the style of politics in Pakistan has changed a lot.
03:46Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman is presenting himself as a modern-looking politician.
03:53But I don't know if he will be able to fulfill the basic needs of the Islamic Jamaat.
04:04The Islamic Jamaat will have to make changes in its basic structure.
04:08The members of the Islamic Jamaat have the power.
04:12But to put all this power in the form of votes,
04:16and then to come forward in this corrupt, corrupt and bad system,
04:20is another game in which I think Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman will have to put his Jamaat in this electoral system.
04:28The Islamic Jamaat is not acceptable right now.
04:31It is in very small pockets, but in Karachi.
04:33Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman fights elections from Karachi.
04:37When you look at the Karachi-Sindh comparison,
04:43people's party or MQM, they want to see someone else.
04:49Because of this, the Islamic Jamaat did very well in the last elections.
04:54But I think the kind of politics they do is very limited.
05:00I think the problem with the Islamic Jamaat is that it does not have the capacity for politics.
05:09In April 2024, Shahid Thaqan Abbasi announced the creation of a new political party.
05:19Shahid Thaqan Abbasi's creation of a new party,
05:22you can certainly create your own space, but it is still not clear
05:28whether his Jamaat will be on the left or on the right.
05:31In my opinion, by creating a separate political party,
05:35it will not be able to make a big difference in the political landscape of Pakistan.
05:40It is very good. Political parties should be formed.
05:43Why did Shahid Thaqan Abbasi not get space in the Muslim League Nawaz?
05:47Because he does not want to work below the office of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
05:51Is there room for a new political party in Pakistani politics?
05:56Many people may say yes, but I do not think so.
06:00I think Shahid Thaqan Abbasi had also made up his mind
06:03that he should work under a representative.
06:07Because he was a former Prime Minister.
06:09Shahid Thaqan Abbasi's party is a good thing.
06:13It is good that he was separated.
06:15He was saved from the beatings of the children.
06:16But I do not think his party will be able to do anything in the electoral field.
06:35It was very unprecedented when Islamabad High Court was united.
06:41Because in Pakistan, there is a lot of interference in the courts.
06:48The courts are also political.
06:50Whether it is the 6 judges or the other judges,
06:53it seems that everything has been surrendered.
06:56The case is still there.
06:58The letter of those 6 judges is also there in front of the Supreme Judicial Council.
07:03But no policy has been made on it.
07:06And I don't think it will make a difference even if a policy is made.
07:11As long as the system is not right, such interference will continue.
07:16If we think that it is being alleged and there is no truth in it,
07:21then someone has to investigate it.
07:24But we have not seen that either.
07:26For the first time, your overwhelming majority, there were 8 judges in total,
07:326 of them are saying that this is happening to us.
07:34It's not just that.
07:36Then you saw that the judges of Sindh High Court also came.
07:39Then the judges of other high courts also spoke.
07:41Outside the associations, you will say that there is a divide on the political lines.
07:45Someone was in favor, someone was against.
07:47But the judges came so openly that a lot of limits were crossed.
07:51If we raise our voice on the system of justice,
07:55then it should be considered serious and serious.
07:58But if there is a discussion in it that it is working to benefit one person,
08:05it is going to be against one person, then the judges should make decisions.
08:10Instead of ending the matter, as Mr. Chaudhary Shujaat Hussain says,
08:15this is the soiled leg formula.
08:18And maybe both sides have put a truce in it.
08:22Because everything happened in the era of Qazi Faisal,
08:25but they did not pursue this matter.
08:27This is a problem. Yes, this is a problem.
08:29It has been for many years.
08:31This is not the first time.
08:33Yes, it is for sure that six judges brought it to court for the first time.
08:37But this is a very old problem.
08:39In June 2022, this means that if the interference was taking place,
08:43then the system that was running at that time,
08:45and they tell from behind the bags.
08:47And when Mr. Shaukat Siddiqui told the interference,
08:51then at that time, if these judges had taken a little moral stand,
08:55and Mr. Atta Minnalla had not accepted the position that Mr. Shaukat Siddiqui had to get,
09:03then I thought that there is a moral weight in it.
09:12The way Mr. Qazi downplayed this matter along with the government,
09:17that too was a wonder in itself.
09:20I think Mr. Chief Justice missed a big golden opportunity.
09:24Before this, we saw that a judge said that General Faiz called me and asked me to punish him.
09:32We saw the judges playing on both sides.
09:35The judges also made a lot of noise in the beginning.
09:37But I actually feel that the letters written by these six judges,
09:42a lot of red lines had crossed.
09:44Last year, the decision to hold the election was made in May, that it would be on 14th May.
09:49And we were saying that it would not happen, it is the Supreme Court's decision, so let it happen.
09:51So who did they punish by giving the decision on page 27?
09:56No one. They said that this is a non-issue, it is done, it is a tie-down.
09:59So then neither you nor we should play with galleries, nor should we give a decision.
10:03It seems that the way the Supreme Court was involved at that time,
10:07the way the media made a lot of noise about it,
10:11there has been some improvement.
10:15But when you change the law instead of the judges,
10:19when you change the form of the Supreme Court,
10:23like what happened after the 26th amendment,
10:26you have completely cut the wings of the Supreme Court.
10:30I will still request the Supreme Court,
10:33what is the case of the Supreme Judicial Court?
10:37Like many other cases, like the case of Qazi Faiz Shah,
10:41the Supreme Court finally heard, what is the case of the Supreme Judicial Court?
10:44So let the Supreme Court hear this too.
10:46The judges of Islamabad High Court said that
10:49where should we take this complaint?
10:51There should be a way to make it under the Supreme Judicial Council.
10:54On top of this, after becoming the Chief Justice of Justice Yahya Afridi,
10:58Qazi Faiz Shah did not do anything in his tenure,
11:02nor did he have any intention to do anything.
11:04In fact, after becoming the Chief Justice of Justice Yahya Afridi,
11:07he asked the judges of Islamabad High Court for some recommendations
11:12and made them a part of the rules of the Supreme Judicial Council,
11:14in which it was said that if a judge has a complaint in the future,
11:19how will he inform his Chief Justice?
11:22And if the Chief Justice does not take action,
11:24how can action be taken against him in 209?
11:45The leadership of the PTI was directly involved in the incidents of 9th May.
11:50The plan was made and the plans were implemented.
11:53The investigation report of the Nigrah Cabinet revealed that
11:56the political dissidents cannot be talked to.
11:59The attack on the army will not be talked to by the propagandists.
12:03The conversation is given to the political parties, not the institutions.
12:06DG ISPR, the press conference of Major General Ahmed Sharif.
12:10Regarding 9th May, the biggest complainant is the army of Pakistan.
12:18The army says that the case is not of the army, but of Pakistan.
12:23But the issue is that the army is not taking it as an attack on the security installations.
12:31They consider it an act of sabotage, an act of violence or revolt,
12:36which was attempted.
12:38There were some present service and some retired military officers present in it.
12:43They were part of that conspiracy.
12:45And the army thinks that Imran Khan,
12:48by colluding with them, got 9th May done.
12:51It was basically against the leadership of the army,
12:54that there should be a revolt in the army.
12:569th May has never happened in Pakistan before.
12:59And if I look at it as a student of history,
13:01I don't see that in our region or anywhere else,
13:06an army has been formed against the army.
13:10The law of Pakistan, which determines the path in this regard,
13:16the laws of Pakistan, which recommend punishments in this regard,
13:21those punishments should be met.
13:24And the only solution to this is a judicial commission.
13:28The sooner it is formed, the better.
13:33Otherwise, this issue will continue to hang.
13:35I think that the leadership of the PTI cannot disown this crime or this incident.
13:41They cannot de-link it.
13:43And I am sure that no matter what happens,
13:47the people responsible for it will be punished.
13:50According to the own statements of the Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaad,
13:53even if someone gives some special statements against Afwad,
13:56he is a traitor, according to the PTI.
13:58People reached here outside the installations and they did a lot.
14:029th May is a big political mistake of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaad.
14:06And it cannot be forgiven in any way.
14:09At the moment, the issues are very heated on both sides.
14:14There is a lot of anger on both sides.
14:16The state is more angry than Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaad.
14:20And it should be.
14:22Look, Mr. Imran Khan is going towards practical politics.
14:26He knows where the center of power is.
14:29Because of which he thinks that if I get any relief,
14:33or if I want to do politics further,
14:35then I will have to negotiate with the institution.
14:38But the institution also has some conditions,
14:41which I think it is very difficult for Mr. Khan to digest.
14:43And if Mr. Khan digested it,
14:45then it would be very difficult to answer his supporters, his voters.
14:48His approach, his thinking is that talk to the army,
14:53the deal will be with them.
14:54There is a lot of misfortune in our country,
14:58that the one who has a deal,
15:01then it becomes a matter.
15:04So when they say that politicians should talk to each other,
15:06they should do it.
15:08I am a big supporter that politicians should talk to each other.
15:10They will talk in a big framework.
15:13What should be the role of institutions?
15:16What is the role of institutions?
15:18What is the role of institutions?
15:20Who has what responsibility in the constitution?
15:22Politicians should talk to each other on that.
15:24Politicians should talk to each other to expand.
15:26Politicians should make a framework to limit everyone to their own institutions,
15:29to their own rights.
15:31Look, the politics in the country at the moment,
15:34it seems that the government has become completely irrelevant.
15:41Everyone knows that the deal comes from there.
15:43That is the power center.
15:45Those are the people who decide whose government will be formed.
15:47Those are the people who decide whose will fall.
15:49Who will come in now, who will go out.
15:51Who has to go to jail, who has to go to the Prime Minister's house.
15:54It is clear that the lines have crossed.
15:58The guidelines have been seen outside the sensitive institutions.
16:01Look, either the crime has been committed,
16:04then it is his punishment.
16:06It is not his pardon.
16:08And if the crime has not been committed, then it is acquittal.
16:10On 9th May, almost two and a quarter years have passed.
16:15And till now,
16:18in those cases,
16:20we have seen that all the high profile prisoners,
16:22none of them are punished.
16:25There are two main teams.
16:27For example, there is a big team, Muktadara.
16:29They know who has done this.
16:31They have evidence.
16:33And on the other hand, there is PTI,
16:35whose people are involved.
16:37Now PTI keeps saying slag,
16:39we are oppressed, we are innocent.
16:41Those who have been harmed, they do not believe.
16:44There is only one solution to that.
16:46Free and fair investigation,
16:48supervised by any honorable judge of the High Court or Supreme Court.
16:53And if anyone is involved in this,
16:57in its planning, in its execution,
17:00the incidents that have taken place,
17:02then in my opinion, no one should be pardoned.
17:04Right now, it has been made a political matter.
17:08It is discussed on TV channels every day.
17:11It is discussed in press conferences every day.
17:14But if this is a serious crime,
17:16then it will have to be proved in the courts.
17:21So the day someone is punished in the courts,
17:26then only we can talk.
17:28The Supreme Court has made the parameters so tight,
17:34so narrow in terms of exhibiting the video as evidence,
17:39that you cannot produce it as evidence in the court of law.
17:42There is a big fault of our court in 9th May.
17:46The videos are there.
17:48The people who said that we are going to GHQ,
17:50the people who said that we are going to the Core Commander House,
17:52we have ransacked it.
17:54If you have not taken a decision on them,
17:56then this is bound to happen.
17:58I think the decision will not be taken by the Faithful Cabinet,
18:00or anyone else, or me, or you.
18:02The decision should be taken by such a power,
18:05such a commission, or such a committee,
18:08which is unbiased.
18:10On one hand you are involved in 9th May,
18:12the state understands, the state agrees,
18:15and on the other hand you say that
18:17we have to talk to the establishment.
18:19So these are two different extremes.
18:21They want to talk to the army,
18:23because they feel that
18:25they have had a comfort zone with the army
18:28for the last 8-10 years.
18:30And they do not want to be associated with the Muslim League Noon
18:32and People's Party.
18:34Because they were in a position,
18:36when they were the Prime Minister,
18:38they did not talk to the People's Party
18:40and the Muslim League Noon,
18:42because their thinking is
18:44that they should talk to the army,
18:46and the deal will be with them.
18:48It is very unfortunate in our country,
18:51that the one who has a deal,
18:54then the deal is made.
18:57There is no one greater than the power of the state.
19:00Sulfikar Bhutto had also tried this.
19:03Nawaz Sharif had also tried this.
19:06In the meantime, the People's Party
19:08had also tried this in the era of Benazir Bhutto.
19:09Now Ibrahim Khan has also tried this.
19:12So the state always convinces itself.
19:15So, in my opinion,
19:17all the stakeholders of Pakistan,
19:19the politicians,
19:21all the political parties,
19:23the establishment definitely plays a role in this.
19:26So, the political excitement in Pakistan
19:29that is present now,
19:31has only one solution.
19:33And that is to sit across the table.
19:36And all of them will have to sit.
19:37There is no reason to say that
19:39we didn't do it.
19:41Someone else did it.
19:43If someone else did it,
19:45then those who have been punished,
19:47you should welcome them,
19:49that you were not there.
19:51So, this happened from here too.
19:53But on the other hand,
19:55it should not have happened
19:57that those who keep doing
19:59indiscriminate things,
20:01keep going home.
20:03The balance is the same.
20:04It will be understood day after tomorrow.
20:06It will not be understood day after tomorrow.
20:08It will be understood after a few weeks,
20:10a few months, a few years.
20:12But the mind will come to its senses.
20:35If someone has money,
20:39and he wants to buy a property somewhere,
20:41then he must buy it.
20:43Now, the issue is that
20:45if someone has hidden that property,
20:47has not declared it,
20:49and has sent the money out in a wrong way,
20:51then action should be taken against them.
20:53Who will take action?
20:55When the law makers themselves break the law.
20:58There is a sugar scandal
21:00in this country every year.
21:02Why does it happen?
21:04Because there are big donors
21:06sitting in the parliament.
21:08Or there are big sugarcane growers sitting.
21:10So, things happen between each other.
21:12Look at England.
21:14There are two favorite places
21:16of corrupt people of Pakistan
21:18who are in power.
21:20One is Dubai,
21:22and the other is England.
21:24Were the people who bought properties
21:26in the Middle East,
21:28the money with which they were bought,
21:30was it legal money?
21:32Was it their declared money?
21:34If the money was sent out of Pakistan
21:36in a right way,
21:38and when the property was bought,
21:40then did the people
21:42declare the property
21:44in their asset declaration
21:46or taxes?
21:48This is the real question.
21:50Outside of Pakistan,
21:52especially the UAE,
21:54which is the heaven of investment,
21:56taking property there
21:58and investing there
22:00is not illegal.
22:02And this does not mean
22:04that it is illegal.
22:06The Dubai leak
22:08was not a data leak in Dubai.
22:10It was a country leak.
22:12And the country is a leak-o-leak.
22:14Look at the Swiss leak,
22:16the Pandora leak,
22:18the Panama leak,
22:20the Dubai leak,
22:22the Vapda leak,
22:24the PIA leak,
22:26the steel mill leak.
22:28That is, the steel mill is closed
22:30and its gas was stolen by an Arab.
22:32The biggest misfortune
22:34that has happened
22:36is that whenever
22:38the name of an elder
22:40is mentioned,
22:42we see that
22:44there is no action.
22:46It is very difficult
22:48to find out
22:50the white-collar crimes
22:52and money laundering
22:54all over the world.
22:56And not only is it difficult,
22:58but if there is a clue,
23:00then it is very difficult
23:02to find evidence
23:04that corruption
23:06has entered any country
23:08illegally.
23:10Look,
23:12if the institutions are strong,
23:14corruption will stop.
23:16We always look for
23:18a strong individual.
23:20We are looking for a messiah.
23:22Messiahs do not run the country.
23:24Messiahs always become dictators.
23:26Systems develop
23:28where institutions are fine.
23:30We are not letting institutions be.
23:32That is the problem.
23:34Some people are saying
23:36that we will get a loan
23:38of 4-2%.
23:40To get that loan,
23:42we go to places
23:44and in one year,
23:46we bought a property
23:48worth $11 billion.
23:50If I add a few more things
23:52about the UNDP,
23:54I will give you another figure.
23:56It was under Dr. Hafeez Pasha
23:58that we raised our
24:00Pakistan's Ishrafiyah
24:02for $18 billion.
24:04There was a state
24:06bank governor
24:08in 2008
24:10who claimed that
24:12$25 million
24:14goes out of our airports
24:16in one day.
24:18Tell us the truth.
24:20People think that
24:22our $250 billion
24:24has gone out
24:26when we beg people
24:28for money.
24:30There is no
24:32solid evidence
24:34to support this claim.
24:36We will get
24:38benefit of doubt.
24:40As I said earlier,
24:42it is not a crime
24:44to buy a property
24:46outside Pakistan.
24:48It is not a crime
24:50to buy a property
24:52outside Pakistan.
24:54It is not a crime
24:56to buy a property
24:58outside Pakistan.
25:00It is not a crime
25:02to buy a property
25:04outside Pakistan.
25:06It is not a crime
25:08to buy a property
25:10outside Pakistan.
25:11It is not a crime
25:13to buy a property
25:15be it inthe city
25:18or abroad.
25:20If it is a crime
25:22to buy a property
25:24outside Pakistan,
25:26then you can
25:28buy every home
25:30in the world.
25:32Nobody
25:34You can see that when Panama came, there were names of 400 other people in it.
25:38Nawaz Sharif's name was also there.
25:40The properties that he had, he said that these are the resources.
25:44He has not given any money trail till date.
25:46Maryam Bibi said on Barmala TV,
25:48London, I don't have any property in Pakistan.
25:51So didn't he get his property?
25:53So if we sit here and say to the people,
25:57yes, there should be an investigation, this should be done.
25:59Nothing will happen.
26:01In the same way, properties will keep coming out.
26:03Whenever there will be any leaks,
26:05at any important place in the world,
26:07it will be found that people have hidden properties.
26:09So, God willing, you will also get the names of Pakistani retired bureaucrats in it.
26:12The names of journalists will also come.
26:14The names of politicians will also come.
26:16The names of other people will also come.
26:18And after listening to me and you,
26:20only our blood will burn.
26:22We can't do anything more than that.
26:24Now someone tell us the reality of this.
26:26Because Dr. Vikram Malak and such people think that
26:28our $100 million is lying outside
26:30while we are begging people for pennies.
26:49The way the Islamabad Tribunal went
26:51and the Lahore Tribunals,
26:53when they started the initial hearings,
26:56and the way they brought the affidavits
26:58and with the affidavits,
27:00they brought their own Form 45.
27:02It was a very simple way
27:04to audit the elections.
27:06Everyone has a legal document,
27:08Form 45.
27:10Give us your Form 45,
27:12which every elected member
27:14or whoever is fighting the elections has.
27:16Now, the Muslims,
27:18who have the Form 45,
27:20have lost the elections.
27:22So, now give such an affidavit
27:25after which they were going to face
27:27military trials.
27:29And if there had been an audit,
27:31then it would have been known that
27:33this is a fake Form 45.
27:35That's why it didn't suit them
27:37that these proceedings should proceed
27:39like this.
27:41Now what was the way to stop it?
27:43How to stop it?
27:45The way to stop it is that
27:47these judges should be removed
27:49and judges of their choice
27:51should be appointed
27:53It benefited all those people
27:55whose Form 45,
27:57when you collected,
27:59the numbers of Form 47 were not formed.
28:01It benefited all those people
28:03whose cases were in the election tribunals
28:05and it was found that
28:07the votes were fake.
28:09It benefited all those people
28:11who won such an election
28:13in which the night
28:15the results of the election
28:17were being established,
28:19that night they were winning
28:21and the next day they were losing
28:23and the next day they were winning.
28:25It benefited all those people.
28:27In my opinion,
28:29this is a legislation
28:31on the basis of dishonesty
28:33which should not have happened.
28:35But it happened.
28:37Because of which we are seeing
28:39that all the disputes
28:41regarding the election process
28:43and regarding the fraud in the election
28:45are still there.
28:47Basically, the fraud
28:49has been terminated
28:51in the election act.
28:53Handpicked judges, retired judges
28:55who will not run the cases
28:57will not run the cases for 5 years.
28:59That is why these handpicked judges
29:01and retired judges have been appointed
29:03so that the election can not be audited.
29:05Believe me, if one case would have been opened
29:07then the boomerang effect
29:09of the whole of Pakistan would have been there.
29:11Everyone had the same method.
29:13Form 45, that is healthy.
29:15That this Form 45 is original.
29:17That was not to be tolerated
29:19by the Muslim victims.
29:21Retired judges were appointed
29:23in the tribunal
29:25because the government
29:27has decided to completely
29:29destroy the Adliya institution.
29:31I will use the word victory.
29:33They have decided to do this.
29:35So, they thought
29:37that we cannot leave
29:39all the small inconveniences
29:41on someone else's mercy.
29:43So, we have to
29:45keep our grip and control
29:47on this too.
29:49So, when retired judges will be appointed
29:51in the tribunal, who will appoint them?
29:53Who will have more control
29:55in that? It will be the government.
29:57The way you are trying
29:59to create a system,
30:01all these things
30:03are casting a doubt on it.
30:05And doubts
30:07are being created.
30:09June 2024
30:11Senior Leader of Noon League
30:13and Former Governor of Sindh
30:15Mohammad Zubair
30:17has left Noon League
30:21I don't know about Mohammad Zubair
30:23that how his condition
30:25deteriorated
30:27with Noon League.
30:29But he was so close
30:31to Nawaz Sharif
30:33and Maryam Nawaz
30:35that both of them
30:37appointed him
30:39not only for translation
30:41but also for meeting.
30:43And they met.
30:45And they were successful
30:47in those meetings
30:49which benefited Nawaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz.
30:51So, if a person
30:53facilitated
30:55or facilitated
30:57then what happens
30:59that he is completely sidelined?
31:01I don't think he left Noon League
31:03when it left him.
31:05This is
31:07a rubbish of ruling
31:09of PMLN.
31:11As long as they need
31:13someone, they make him sit on the sky.
31:15When his time passes
31:17then they ditch him.
31:19I think all the people in power
31:21have this habit.
31:23Mohammad Zubair also started
31:25criticizing slowly.
31:27So, ultimately the result
31:29was that he had to
31:31leave Noon League.
31:33But whenever you take a distance
31:35in politics, especially
31:37when you have a long
31:39relationship, then a political
31:41grace and dignity should be maintained.
31:43This usually happens when
31:45you have a disconnect with your leadership.
31:47It is not necessary that
31:49it is your fault. It can be the fault of leadership as well.
31:51But the people
31:53who have an objection
31:55that I didn't get a position,
31:57that I have been neglected,
31:59that I have been
32:01serving in the party for so long
32:03and you have given more importance
32:05to me than to the party
32:07and you are giving
32:09more importance to me
32:11than to the party.
32:13So, many people get disillusioned.
32:15Their distance from the party
32:17leadership increases and
32:19their role is marginalized.
32:21Mohammad Zubair's case
32:23has some mistakes of Muslim League Nawaz.
32:25He has done injustice to Mohammad Zubair
32:27in Muslim League Nawaz.
32:29He had done some negotiations.
32:31He had engaged the establishment.
32:33He had done it on the
32:35command of Muslim League Nawaz.
32:37But when
32:39the government of PDM came,
32:41General Bajwa
32:43said some things
32:45which are against
32:47Mohammad Zubair.
32:49They are not based on facts.
32:51But he blamed himself
32:53and blamed Mohammad Zubair.
32:55When Nawaz Sharif
32:57was in a very
32:59rebellious mode,
33:01Zubair was
33:03close to him.
33:05Now, he has forgotten
33:07about giving respect to the vote.
33:09Zubair
33:11doesn't fit into
33:13the new scheme of things.
33:15The politics of uncles
33:17is slowly getting over
33:19and the new young blood
33:21wants to bring Mariam Nawaz.
33:23If you look at Punjab's cabinet,
33:25it is also based on
33:27much younger ministers.
33:29As far as Zubair is concerned,
33:31according to my information,
33:33Zubair's differences with
33:35the Muslim League had started
33:37long before the elections.
33:39The Muslim League was not
33:41giving him the space
33:43that it used to give in the past.
33:45According to my information,
33:47apart from Zubair,
33:49other young people
33:51will slowly move away
33:53from the platform of the
33:55Muslim League.
33:59He chose to
34:01express his opinion
34:03and move away.
34:05But this was not the case with everyone.
34:07After losing an election,
34:09someone became a sideline
34:11and then he remembered
34:13Civil and Supremacy.
34:15But again,
34:17is this right or not?
34:19Is the Pakistan Muslim League
34:21still based on giving respect
34:23to the vote?
34:25The answer is no.
34:27He is expressing his opinion.
34:49Going to the IMF
34:51is the failure of governments
34:53and not the failure of the people.
34:55If you say that
34:57it is difficult for the people
34:59to go to the IMF,
35:01then it is a lie.
35:03Or if it is not a lie,
35:05then you can say
35:07that it is a confession of crime
35:09and a confession of defeat.
35:11So what will you say
35:13about a person
35:15who made a budget
35:17based on such a confession of defeat?
35:19And secondly,
35:21you will see the effects
35:23of a political economy.
35:25In Pakistan,
35:27you will see some signs
35:29of improvement
35:31but it will not be an investment.
35:33And the most important thing
35:35is that there is no possibility
35:37of political stability
35:39in Pakistan.
35:41An economy is not alone.
35:43Originally,
35:45it is called a political economy.
35:47So when your politics are not good,
35:49you will try to improve the economy.
35:51You are living in a fool's paradise.
35:53The people of Pakistan
35:55should keep one thing in mind
35:57that their budget
35:59will not be friendly to the people.
36:01It is not possible.
36:03Because the IMF is in their clutches.
36:05They will come and tell you
36:07that you have to put
36:09these things in the budget.
36:11And if you want to put relief,
36:13which the political governments want,
36:15let's be very honest,
36:17PMLN wanted to give people
36:19a little incentive.
36:21They can't do it.
36:23It is not possible.
36:25We can impose a tax on it.
36:27When Mariam Sahiba
36:29tried to give relief
36:31of 14 rupees
36:33in one unit,
36:35the IMF got it back.
36:37Today, virtually our economy
36:39is not in our hands.
36:41We came to review
36:43a few days ago.
36:45We had to review in February-March.
36:47We got the documents back.
36:49We didn't get the money yet.
36:51The board has to decide.
36:53According to Dr. Hafeez Pasha,
36:55we have to pay
36:57a minimum budget
36:59of 400-1000 rupees.
37:01This is a maximum budget.
37:03We have to pay
37:05a maximum tax of 1000 rupees
37:07so that we can get
37:09a rollover from China.
37:11It is the IMF's economy.
37:13It is the IMF's budget.
37:15It is the IMF's budget.
37:17It is not ours.
37:45Every government had promised
37:47that they will get relief
37:49from the IMF.
37:51This has happened only twice.
37:53In the era of Shaukat Aziz,
37:55who was the Prime Minister of Musharraf,
37:57they told the IMF,
37:59take your money and run.
38:01This has happened.
38:03In the era of Benazir,
38:05we got relief
38:07from the IMF.
38:09But the way the PTI
38:11left the IMF after waiting
38:13for a long time,
38:15you had a sword hanging on your neck
38:17of default.
38:19The PTI and its leadership
38:21said that this is a default.
38:23The PTI and its leadership
38:25said that this is a default.
38:27The PTI and its leadership
38:29wrote a letter to the IMF
38:31asking them not to lend
38:33to Pakistan.
38:35When you take a loan
38:37and you don't have anything,
38:39then the loan is due.
38:41The PTI and its leadership
38:43are not jewelers.
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