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00:00:00On New Year's Day last year, Meiko Nakamura passed away at the age of 89.
00:00:11This time, she appeared on a past program three months before she passed away.
00:00:18I'm the best in the village.
00:00:22This is a special edition of TSUITO, which includes unpublished videos for the first time in about 30 minutes.
00:00:32There are people who are weirder than me.
00:00:36Do you know today's guest well?
00:00:39I know her well.
00:00:42I know her daughter.
00:00:44Do you have two daughters?
00:00:46I often eat with her.
00:00:50Do you often eat with her at work?
00:00:52I rarely work.
00:00:55What is your impression of her mother?
00:00:59In the past, she often appeared on various programs.
00:01:05There was a program called Kikeba Kikuhodo, but it was a long time ago.
00:01:10It's been a long time since I've seen her like this.
00:01:14I saw her on a talk show the other day.
00:01:18Since then, we have become very close.
00:01:22When I see her, I can't stop laughing.
00:01:26I think she has two daughters and three children.
00:01:30It's like a manzai trio.
00:01:32Anyone can do that.
00:01:35Today's guest is Meiko Nakamura.
00:01:41I can hear the history of the entertainment industry.
00:01:45She made her debut at the age of two and a half and became an actress.
00:01:4990 years?
00:01:53Is there such a person?
00:01:55I don't think so.
00:01:57There hasn't been anyone in the entertainment industry for 90 years.
00:02:01She's been around all the time.
00:02:04I don't think there's anyone in the entertainment industry who has a story at home.
00:02:11It's like a historian.
00:02:13I'm sorry.
00:02:15Let's get started.
00:02:18You're a great person.
00:02:22The legend of the Showa entertainment industry.
00:02:25Meiko Nakamura.
00:02:28I don't do that.
00:02:30If you look this way, it's called Rokka.
00:02:32A relationship unknown to the general public, as seen in textbooks.
00:02:36When Takuya Tanaka was a guest.
00:02:40And the last farewell with Showa singer and best friend Hibari Misora.
00:02:47I didn't say a word about what to do with Meiko.
00:02:50Give this to crying Meiko.
00:02:54It's sad, isn't it?
00:02:58Tsube and Sagako.
00:03:01The great seniors of the Showa era and the strange Hibari.
00:03:05Laugh and cry tonight.
00:03:08Meiko Nakamura special.
00:03:13I was very happy to meet you like this today.
00:03:17I'm talking to you in this studio at 90 years old.
00:03:24How did you feel when you were asked to do this?
00:03:28I thought it would be interesting.
00:03:31I know both hosts.
00:03:34I'm glad to be a guest here.
00:03:39I was happy, too.
00:03:42I think I can do something interesting with Torio.
00:03:45What are you talking about?
00:03:48If you're really fine,
00:03:51I know when my legs are fine.
00:03:57I was in a wheelchair when I met you today.
00:04:01I was a little surprised.
00:04:03Ha-chan followed me.
00:04:05Hazuki-san, too.
00:04:07Ha-chan, thank you for your help every day.
00:04:10When did you become a wheelchair?
00:04:13It's a complex hip joint.
00:04:17I've been a wheelchair since I was in the hospital.
00:04:21I tried to walk at home because I didn't want to.
00:04:27Did you have a complex hip joint?
00:04:30That's right.
00:04:31I tripped.
00:04:33I've been tripping a lot lately.
00:04:36When you get older.
00:04:38I tripped the other day.
00:04:40I happened to go to Fukui the other day.
00:04:42I went to Aoyama Hosoidori.
00:04:44I took a picture there.
00:04:47I took a picture and took a picture.
00:04:49Everyone who came out followed me.
00:04:51I tripped diagonally.
00:04:53That's dangerous.
00:04:55Everyone who took a picture with me was gone.
00:04:58That's terrible.
00:05:00I thought I shouldn't ask for help from a person like this.
00:05:03You should have helped me.
00:05:05I did help you, but I was afraid that other people would be left behind.
00:05:10You must have been scared.
00:05:12I thought it would be a big deal.
00:05:14It wasn't a big deal at all.
00:05:16It's dangerous for a dancer like me.
00:05:19Didn't you fall?
00:05:21I can fall.
00:05:23I broke my little finger twice at the corner of the bed.
00:05:29I thought I could easily pass through here.
00:05:32I hit it hard.
00:05:34That's just a sprain.
00:05:37It's a sprain.
00:05:39I laughed a lot.
00:05:41I was really scared.
00:05:43Mr. Kozu made the food.
00:05:46I broke my leg.
00:05:48You don't make food anymore?
00:05:50I don't make food anymore.
00:05:52I don't want to get hurt.
00:05:55I don't want to fall again.
00:05:57You're good at cooking.
00:05:59I make a lot of food.
00:06:01But it's a hassle to make food.
00:06:04What kind of food do you make?
00:06:06I make everything.
00:06:08Everything.
00:06:10I'm passionate about research.
00:06:13I want to marry a doctor.
00:06:17I really don't want to.
00:06:19You don't want to, do you?
00:06:21You're doing it because you have a bad leg.
00:06:24That may be true, but it makes sense.
00:06:27You have to put up with it.
00:06:29But when I think about it,
00:06:31there are a lot of men like Mr. Itamai and Mr. Koku.
00:06:35They're good.
00:06:38You have to be grateful for that.
00:06:41Yes.
00:06:45Have you been dating for a long time?
00:06:48Since when?
00:06:50He was drinking with my father in Ginza.
00:06:54He was drinking with my father.
00:06:57I was listening to the voice of One-Pack Flipper.
00:07:01I don't remember.
00:07:03My father's name is Flipper, right?
00:07:07Your voice hasn't changed yet.
00:07:10No, it hasn't.
00:07:12My father, who hates TV, was moved by my voice.
00:07:16He called me right away.
00:07:18I remember being there.
00:07:20Really?
00:07:22My father said,
00:07:24That's great.
00:07:26It wasn't a big deal, was it?
00:07:29Everyone in Japan knows him.
00:07:32At that time, the entertainment industry was really luxurious.
00:07:36Now, even if you say the entertainment industry,
00:07:39you know it.
00:07:41If you look here, it's Mr. Enoken.
00:07:43If you look here, it's Mr. Loppa.
00:07:45Enoken Loppa's era.
00:07:47It's the era of Enoken Loppa.
00:07:49It's based on Watanabe's juice.
00:07:52That's still new.
00:07:54It's based on Watanabe's juice.
00:07:57It's full of juice.
00:08:00That's after the war.
00:08:02It was before the war.
00:08:04You made your debut in a movie when you were two and a half years old.
00:08:09That's right. I was two years and eight months old.
00:08:12Noriko Awaya.
00:08:14Bruce, who broke up with her, became a hit.
00:08:17Futaba Yama became Yokozuna.
00:08:19Showa 12 years.
00:08:23She appeared in the Enoken movie at the age of two.
00:08:26Meiko made her debut.
00:08:30Do you remember that time?
00:08:32I remember.
00:08:33I remember when I made NG.
00:08:35Do you remember making NG?
00:08:37Yes.
00:08:38I thought I made a mistake.
00:08:41You were an actress.
00:08:43I felt really bad.
00:08:45Did you feel bad?
00:08:46You were two years and eight months old.
00:08:48So I said, I'm sorry.
00:08:51That's amazing.
00:08:53I'm sorry.
00:08:55I said, I'm sorry.
00:08:58Enoken is so interesting that I can't stand it.
00:09:02It's interesting.
00:09:04Everyone is serious now.
00:09:08I'm doing a lot of things because I'm joking.
00:09:11I'm holding back because I think I shouldn't do a lot of things.
00:09:14Is that so?
00:09:16Is that so?
00:09:18You're good.
00:09:20I really enjoy working.
00:09:24Do you work from here?
00:09:26That's right.
00:09:28I haven't taken off my diaper yet.
00:09:33What did your mother do?
00:09:36My mother is a modern girl with a lot of hair.
00:09:41I don't think I've ever had a baby.
00:09:46You've never had a baby?
00:09:48My mother was like that, too.
00:09:51Was your mother like your mother?
00:09:54Yes, she wasn't very family-oriented.
00:09:58Does your mother cook?
00:10:00Yes, she does.
00:10:02But she wasn't very family-oriented.
00:10:05My mother's heart is exactly that of a modern girl.
00:10:10So my father said,
00:10:12I don't want to write war literature, so I'll take a break.
00:10:15When I told my mother, she said,
00:10:18Please let me write what I want to write.
00:10:21But I couldn't write what I wanted to write.
00:10:24Because it was a war.
00:10:26So my mother worked all by herself.
00:10:29Did your mother work?
00:10:31Yes.
00:10:32Did your mother support your life?
00:10:34Yes.
00:10:35Did you have a maid to accompany you?
00:10:38No, I didn't.
00:10:40You didn't?
00:10:41No, I didn't.
00:10:42You were only two years old.
00:10:44I didn't have a lot of helpers.
00:10:47I didn't have a lot of friends.
00:10:50You were treated like a genius girl.
00:10:53You became famous overnight.
00:10:56You know what I mean?
00:10:58You know what I mean?
00:11:00When we were really born,
00:11:02Meiko Nakamura had a good heart.
00:11:06Really?
00:11:07I know.
00:11:08Isn't it easy to say Meiko Nakamura?
00:11:11I'm sorry to call you that.
00:11:13Did you know Mr. Kurosawa when you were young?
00:11:16Mr. Kurosawa was my onbu.
00:11:19Onbu?
00:11:20I was onbu to Mr. Kurosawa.
00:11:22Yes.
00:11:23I couldn't walk yet.
00:11:25When I went to a far place,
00:11:28I always said,
00:11:29Mr. Kurosawa's brother is onbu.
00:11:32He was your brother.
00:11:33He was.
00:11:34The scenery was good because he was tall.
00:11:36Because he was tall.
00:11:38It was better than being onbu to other people.
00:11:40Yes.
00:11:41The scenery was good.
00:11:45Mr. Kishi Akira was comfortable to sit on.
00:11:48He was chubby.
00:11:50He was comfortable.
00:11:52He was like a comfortable cat.
00:11:56I asked him,
00:11:59who is the man who looks like an elephant?
00:12:01He said, Mr. Kishi Akira.
00:12:03I don't think many people know him.
00:12:05I don't know him either.
00:12:06I don't know Mr. Kishi Akira.
00:12:07You don't know him?
00:12:08I don't know him.
00:12:09Is he a tough guy?
00:12:10I don't know him.
00:12:11I'm sorry, Mr. Kishi.
00:12:13He was a very big man.
00:12:15He was a famous actor.
00:12:17Mr. Kishi Akira.
00:12:19He was very famous.
00:12:21He played the role of Son Goku in Enoken.
00:12:25I played the role of Sei in Hyakkajiten.
00:12:29Sei.
00:12:30Fairy.
00:12:31Yes.
00:12:32Fairy.
00:12:33In Hyakkajiten.
00:12:34Yes.
00:12:35You must have known everything about Hyakkajiten.
00:12:37That's why I had to say difficult lines.
00:12:41I said it.
00:12:43Do you remember?
00:12:44I don't remember at all now.
00:12:46It's strange that you remember so much.
00:12:49Is that so?
00:12:50I was going to be an actress.
00:12:52My father was a humorist.
00:12:55Yes, yes.
00:12:56My father said,
00:12:58I can only draw bright and interesting things.
00:13:01He was a writer like that.
00:13:03That's why I remember him like a comic book character.
00:13:08And his face.
00:13:10He had an interesting face.
00:13:12Is this a girl?
00:13:14Nakamura Meiko.
00:13:17It says May.
00:13:20I can't read it in English now because of the war.
00:13:24I see.
00:13:26So I forced myself to write it in Katakana.
00:13:29I wrote Meiko.
00:13:31Meiko Nakamura is the main character.
00:13:34I see.
00:13:35That's why the girls are called Kanna and Hazuki.
00:13:38Kanna was born in October,
00:13:40and Hazuki was born in August.
00:13:44So the baby was born with Kikuchi and Kanna?
00:13:47Yes.
00:13:48With Kikuchi and Kanna?
00:13:49Yes.
00:13:50After this,
00:13:51there was an episode of a novelist having a meal with Kikuchi and Kanna when they were 2 and a half years old.
00:13:57What?
00:13:58No, no.
00:13:59Don't say that.
00:14:00Tooi senchi no onii-san
00:14:03Akai hanabira futatsu mitsu
00:14:06Nihon no haru wo okurimasu
00:14:14Meiko Nakamura is the father of a famous humor novelist.
00:14:21My favorite thing that my father wrote is
00:14:25When he asked me why I made macaroni,
00:14:29I said,
00:14:30What do you think spaghetti is?
00:14:34He said,
00:14:35The person who was looking at what was pushed out of the macaroni hole
00:14:39decided to make this into spaghetti.
00:14:43That's what my father said.
00:14:46He taught me when I was in elementary school.
00:14:49I still remember that.
00:14:51If you remember it from that time,
00:14:54you won't be stupid anymore.
00:14:56No, I'm already stupid.
00:14:58I talked to Ha-chan on the phone yesterday.
00:15:00With Hazuki-san.
00:15:01To find out what your body is like.
00:15:04I'll go straight to Meiko-san.
00:15:06You said that.
00:15:07It's no good.
00:15:08It's really no good.
00:15:10That's right.
00:15:11It's scary.
00:15:12The daughter.
00:15:13The daughter is scary.
00:15:14Kanna and Hazuki are also scary.
00:15:17Three people appeared on TV.
00:15:19Kanna-san, Hazuki-san, and Meiko-san.
00:15:21I said,
00:15:22You remember two and a half years old.
00:15:24I said,
00:15:25I'll forget what happened yesterday.
00:15:28But that's really true.
00:15:30That's why I tell Kanna and Hazuki around this time.
00:15:33Mom, I think this is the first time I've talked about this.
00:15:36I said,
00:15:37It's my birthday, so the second time?
00:15:39The third time?
00:15:40Well,
00:15:41The fifth time.
00:15:44That's great.
00:15:45I don't like it.
00:15:46That's fine.
00:15:47Kanna calmed down with her low voice.
00:15:51It's all old-fashioned.
00:15:53Meiko-san's story.
00:15:55It's strange to hear it five times.
00:15:58Be confident and speak five times.
00:16:00When I first met Kanna-san,
00:16:02What I was told was
00:16:04Meiko-san's father, Kanna-san's grandfather.
00:16:07When I was in front of my grandfather's house,
00:16:09It was raining really hard.
00:16:12Oh, it's pouring rain.
00:16:14Kanna-san said,
00:16:16Then my grandfather said,
00:16:18You shouldn't say that!
00:16:20You shouldn't express things with such a long speech.
00:16:23Express it with your own words.
00:16:26You said that, didn't you?
00:16:27It's raining hard today.
00:16:30It's slippery.
00:16:32Think about it from that perspective.
00:16:34My grandfather said.
00:16:35Don't use what people have said or what has been around for a long time.
00:16:38Don't use it.
00:16:39I think my father had a really unique education.
00:16:44Kikuchi Kanna-san.
00:16:46When I was supposed to have dinner with Kikuchi Kanna-san,
00:16:51He said,
00:16:52I'm fine, so would you like to have dinner with my daughter?
00:16:56He said.
00:16:58So I'm going to stick to my father.
00:17:00I know we're going to have dinner with three people,
00:17:02My father won't come.
00:17:04How old was that?
00:17:07I made my film debut when I was two and eight months old.
00:17:11It was before that, so I was even younger.
00:17:13Before that?
00:17:14Yes, before that.
00:17:15Isn't it a baby?
00:17:17A baby.
00:17:18A baby and Kikuchi Kanna-san are having dinner.
00:17:22I asked Kikuchi-sensei later.
00:17:25No, my daughter is still two and a half years old.
00:17:28I haven't been able to take care of her properly.
00:17:30I've taught her only the etiquette.
00:17:34My father said,
00:17:36I'm sure she'll have dinner with Kikuchi Kanna-san.
00:17:38She's an interesting person.
00:17:39In a proper restaurant.
00:17:41It's a great rainbow grill.
00:17:43So you're going to take the baby with Kikuchi Kanna-san?
00:17:46That's right.
00:17:47Kikuchi Kanna-san and Kikuchi Kanna-san.
00:17:49Kikuchi Kanna-san and Kikuchi Kanna-san.
00:17:51Just the two of us.
00:17:52What are you doing?
00:17:53What are you doing?
00:17:54Kikuchi Kanna-san of Kikuchi Kanna-san.
00:17:57Yes, but he must have been in trouble, too.
00:18:01Kikuchi-chan, this is the first time I've had dinner with a small person like you.
00:18:09I'm sorry if I've offended you.
00:18:12You're so cool.
00:18:13I still remember that.
00:18:15What?
00:18:16I'm just kidding.
00:18:18My father was also like that.
00:18:20He took care of the baby.
00:18:22That was his daily routine.
00:18:25There was a time when he sang, too.
00:18:28He was a terrible singer.
00:18:29What kind of song did he sing?
00:18:31I don't know what it was at the time.
00:18:33Hey, sister, I'm really angry.
00:18:37The turkey of the French doll.
00:18:41It's the turkey of the French doll.
00:18:44It's an era, isn't it?
00:18:47I told Mr. Turkey about it when I became an adult.
00:18:51Mr. Turkey.
00:18:52Mr. Turkey.
00:18:53Mr. Turkey, please be quiet for a moment.
00:18:56Let's call each other Mr. Turkey.
00:18:59It's Mr. Turkey.
00:19:01Mr. Turkey.
00:19:02The famous Mr. Turkey.
00:19:05Edo?
00:19:06Kokonoe.
00:19:07Kokonoe?
00:19:08Kokonoe Turkey?
00:19:10Please tell me.
00:19:11Who is Mr. Turkey?
00:19:13Mizunoe Takko.
00:19:14Mizunoe!
00:19:15I was surprised.
00:19:16I didn't know what you were praying for.
00:19:19Mizunoe Takko.
00:19:21Mr. Mizunoe Takko.
00:19:23I was with Mr. Kingoro.
00:19:26Mr. Kingoro.
00:19:27Gesture.
00:19:28Of course, Mr. Kingoro, too.
00:19:31I was the biggest fan of Mr. Achako.
00:19:35Mr. Achako Hanabishi.
00:19:37I love Mr. Achako.
00:19:40Mr. Achako was interesting.
00:19:43Mr. Achako.
00:19:44I thought he was crazy.
00:19:50Mr. Achako Hanabishi.
00:19:52I have to explain everything here.
00:19:55Young people don't understand.
00:19:57It's interesting that they don't understand.
00:19:58I want to hear that song again.
00:20:00French Doll Turkey.
00:20:03Hey, sister, are you really angry?
00:20:07French Doll Turkey was very angry.
00:20:13I just put on a mustache.
00:20:16Don't be angry.
00:20:20I'm not angry.
00:20:23You don't remember?
00:20:26There are people who are surprised when they hear this.
00:20:29I think some people remember.
00:20:31Maybe.
00:20:33Do you know this?
00:20:35When do you know this?
00:20:37When do you know this?
00:20:39No one would know.
00:20:41Mr. Morishige was still alive.
00:20:44I was asked all the time,
00:20:46Meiko, Meiko, are you awake?
00:20:48Please come in.
00:20:49Meiko, what was that song during the war?
00:20:54I was asked all the time.
00:20:56You were asked?
00:20:57Yes.
00:20:58So there were Enoken and Roppa around me.
00:21:02I remembered the song of Enoken.
00:21:05Meiko, please sing it.
00:21:07I am the best in the village.
00:21:10That's what I was doing.
00:21:13You are the best in the village.
00:21:16You know it very well.
00:21:18I wondered what the best in the village was.
00:21:20It was the song of Modern Boy.
00:21:22I see.
00:21:24During the war,
00:21:25there were many foreign soldiers.
00:21:27That's right.
00:21:28There were many foreign soldiers of the Special Forces.
00:21:30They sang in front of the young people of the Special Forces
00:21:33and comforted them.
00:21:34It was painful.
00:21:35I hated it when I was a child.
00:21:39I asked,
00:21:40what was the first airplane I boarded?
00:21:43It was a fighter jet.
00:21:45I asked, what kind of ship was it?
00:21:47It was a submarine.
00:21:48I was a child like that.
00:21:50You were a child like that.
00:21:52The first airplane you boarded was a fighter jet.
00:21:56I asked, where did you go?
00:21:57He said, Saipan Island.
00:22:00You went that far.
00:22:02Did you really go to Saipan Island?
00:22:04Yes, I did.
00:22:06I really did.
00:22:07At that time,
00:22:08you sang a song written by your father, didn't you?
00:22:11Yes.
00:22:12He said,
00:22:13he didn't want me to sing a song written by a soldier
00:22:15because he was a writer.
00:22:16He said,
00:22:17he didn't want me to write a song written by a cherry tree.
00:22:33I still remember it.
00:22:34Wow, everything.
00:22:35Mr. Hazuki, Mr. Hazuki.
00:22:37I said, no, I can't remember such an old song.
00:22:39I said, even if I sing it now, no.
00:22:42I was surprised.
00:22:44People who were close to me were happy.
00:22:49I didn't know I was going to die.
00:22:51I was happy that Ms. Meiko came to see me.
00:22:55Everyone was desperate.
00:22:58Even after you grew up a little,
00:23:00you continued to appear on TV and in movies.
00:23:05Yes, I never took a day off from work.
00:23:08All the time.
00:23:10Was there anything in your performance
00:23:12that made you think,
00:23:14oh, what this person said was useful?
00:23:16Well,
00:23:18I was with him when I was little.
00:23:21Mr. Haruko Sugimura.
00:23:24When I was a kid,
00:23:26I thought he was really good.
00:23:28When you were a kid?
00:23:29What about Hideko Takamine?
00:23:31No one was more interesting than Hideko.
00:23:35Was he funny?
00:23:36He was a really interesting person.
00:23:38He was smart.
00:23:40Hideko Takamine was the wife of Zenzo Matsuyama.
00:23:43She was intelligent.
00:23:45The next person, Meiko,
00:23:48was the son of Uehara.
00:23:51I said, is that so?
00:23:53He was an actor named Yuzo Kayama.
00:23:58He told me a lot of things.
00:24:00I told him he was clumsy.
00:24:04He told me a lot of things.
00:24:08I love Hideko.
00:24:11She is beautiful.
00:24:13She is beautiful and cool.
00:24:15I've never met her before.
00:24:18In the movie, Fuku-chan,
00:24:21the manga version of Fuku-chan,
00:24:24Takamine played a female student.
00:24:27Namiko-san,
00:24:29the manga version of Fuku-chan.
00:24:32There is a manga version of Fuku-chan.
00:24:34I thought it was really cool.
00:24:37He was like a female writer in my head.
00:24:42I heard from Akira Takarada
00:24:45about Hideko Takamine.
00:24:48Takarada was a new actor.
00:24:50He said he didn't get any offers from the director.
00:24:53Takamine played the opposite role.
00:24:56I told him that he couldn't do it.
00:24:59I told him that he couldn't do it.
00:25:03The next day,
00:25:05I asked Takamine what I should do.
00:25:11Takarada said,
00:25:13Hideko said,
00:25:15I can't tell you because it's a waste.
00:25:18I thought he was cool.
00:25:21I can't tell you because it's a waste.
00:25:23He said he couldn't do it.
00:25:26I thought he was cool.
00:25:29He was a cool guy.
00:25:32I told him,
00:25:34Uehara-kun,
00:25:36you are really clumsy.
00:25:38Uehara-kun, you are really clumsy.
00:25:41Why don't you try to crouch down?
00:25:44Takamine said in a low voice
00:25:47in our group,
00:25:51Next is Uehara-kun.
00:25:54Uehara-kun.
00:25:56Uehara-kun.
00:25:58You know, the Toho studio is over there.
00:26:02Everyone knows that.
00:26:05Next is Uehara-kun.
00:26:07Uehara-kun.
00:26:10Uehara-kun.
00:26:12Uehara-kun.
00:26:14Uehara-kun.
00:26:16I see.
00:26:18He is the father of Yuzo Kayama.
00:26:21He is a great person.
00:26:23He is a great person.
00:26:25Kayama-kun,
00:26:27when I was 16 or 17 years old,
00:26:29I lived in Chigasaki.
00:26:31We were housemates.
00:26:33Wait a minute.
00:26:35You were housemates?
00:26:37Were there many famous people around you?
00:26:40In Chigasaki at that time,
00:26:43there was a famous musician called Menuin.
00:26:46Menuin?
00:26:48Yes, he was a violinist.
00:26:50Do you know Menuin?
00:26:52Yes, I know Menuin.
00:26:54He was a famous violinist.
00:26:57There was Menuin.
00:26:59Did he live in Japan?
00:27:01Yes, he did.
00:27:02I was surprised.
00:27:03Really?
00:27:04He lived there.
00:27:06I wanted to meet him.
00:27:08I don't know about Menuin,
00:27:10but I wanted to meet Menuin.
00:27:12Chigasaki was amazing at that time.
00:27:16The most unknown person was Yuzo Kayama.
00:27:21I didn't know anything about Yuzo Kayama.
00:27:24I didn't know her either.
00:27:26In my life,
00:27:28I've only dated interesting people.
00:27:31Was Kozu also an interesting person?
00:27:34No, he was very serious and boring.
00:27:37He said a lot of boring and difficult things.
00:27:40Even now, he is like that.
00:27:42Meiko was surrounded by many interesting people
00:27:45since she was a child.
00:27:47Kozu was a decent person.
00:27:51He was the first decent student.
00:27:54He was a student?
00:27:56Yes, he was a student at a music school.
00:27:59Your name was a hit.
00:28:01Yoshida Shigeru said at the National Assembly,
00:28:04You idiot!
00:28:06It was the 28th year of the Showa era.
00:28:10Kozu met her husband, Yoshiyuki Kozu,
00:28:13at a singing lesson.
00:28:17Did you meet Kozu when you were still a teenager?
00:28:20Yes.
00:28:21There was a person named Riro Miki.
00:28:24I had a lot of work with him.
00:28:27He was a bus driver in the countryside.
00:28:30I see.
00:28:31He was a bus driver in the countryside.
00:28:34Kozu was working with him.
00:28:36He was a young student.
00:28:38He was singing his husband's song.
00:28:41He was sitting in front of the piano.
00:28:44I was standing behind him.
00:28:46Kozu was a music student.
00:28:48He was a student at the National Assembly.
00:28:51I think so.
00:28:53He was sitting in front of the piano.
00:28:56I was standing behind him.
00:28:58I asked him,
00:29:00How much tongue do you have?
00:29:02He said,
00:29:03Don't ask weird questions.
00:29:05I asked him if he had anything to do with it.
00:29:09I asked him,
00:29:10How much tongue do you have?
00:29:13He said,
00:29:14Tongue?
00:29:15I said,
00:29:16Wow!
00:29:17He said,
00:29:18Tongue?
00:29:19The first time I met him,
00:29:21he was a baby.
00:29:25When I went to a gynecologist,
00:29:27I was told to take off my underwear.
00:29:29I was told to take off my underwear.
00:29:31I was told to take off my underwear.
00:29:34I was told to take off my underwear.
00:29:37He was born in the countryside.
00:29:39I was in the third place.
00:29:41I was in the third place.
00:29:43I didn't have to lean back.
00:29:45I didn't have to lean back.
00:29:47I didn't know how to get on the car.
00:29:50I didn't know how to get on the car.
00:29:52I was in the third place.
00:29:54I asked him,
00:29:55What are you doing?
00:29:57He said,
00:29:58It was the first time I met him.
00:30:00I said,
00:30:01I was in the third place.
00:30:02There are people who are weirder than me.
00:30:06I'm glad.
00:30:08I lived in a very old mansion.
00:30:11After that, I became like Bridgeton Tire.
00:30:14This is a special episode of the time when she was newlyweds.
00:30:18I came out like this.
00:30:21I became like a tire like this.
00:30:26Meiko Nakamura
00:30:28At that time, she was an online student.
00:30:31She met her husband, Yoshiyuki Kozu, at a singing lesson.
00:30:38After that, we were dating at work.
00:30:43What surprised me was that she was so busy.
00:30:47As expected of this elegant maid, she tried to commit suicide.
00:30:51That's right.
00:30:53Did you try to commit suicide?
00:30:55Yes, I did.
00:30:57I thought I could die if I tried to commit suicide.
00:31:03Anyway, I didn't want to do anything.
00:31:06Because you were too busy?
00:31:08Yes, I was too tired.
00:31:10I could only sleep for about two hours a day.
00:31:13So I went into the sea.
00:31:15Which sea?
00:31:17I lived in Chigasaki, so I was very good at swimming.
00:31:21I couldn't drown no matter how far I went.
00:31:25I was really sick at that time.
00:31:28Did you think you would die if you went into the sea?
00:31:31I thought I would die.
00:31:33I always swam.
00:31:35When I jumped into the sea, the next scene was a funeral.
00:31:39I thought I would die if I jumped into the sea.
00:31:44But I swam for a long time.
00:31:48You swam for a long time.
00:31:50And you were found, right?
00:31:52Yes, I was found.
00:31:54Who was it?
00:31:55It was Musei Tokugawa.
00:31:58You were found swimming?
00:32:00Was it Musei Tokugawa?
00:32:02Why was Musei Tokugawa found?
00:32:04There was a inn called Chigasaki Inn nearby.
00:32:08A girl jumped into the sea and drowned.
00:32:12When the inn staff searched for her,
00:32:16they found the phone number of Musei Tokugawa's house.
00:32:21Someone jumped into the sea?
00:32:23Yes, a little girl jumped into the sea.
00:32:27I asked her what I should do.
00:32:29She said,
00:32:30Wait, Chigasaki.
00:32:32That may be a good idea.
00:32:35How did you know?
00:32:37How did you know?
00:32:38It's simple.
00:32:39It's simple, isn't it?
00:32:41That's what she said.
00:32:43When I realized it,
00:32:45she said,
00:32:46Meiko, Meiko, is that you?
00:32:49She was in a very dangerous situation.
00:32:52Musei Tokugawa was in a very dangerous situation.
00:32:55And?
00:32:56She said,
00:32:57Meiko, is that you?
00:32:59She said,
00:33:00Yes, I'm Meiko Nakamura.
00:33:02How old were you, Meiko?
00:33:05I was 15 or 16 years old.
00:33:08That's sad.
00:33:10But you were so brave.
00:33:12How old were you?
00:33:14You were so brave.
00:33:16You were so good at this.
00:33:18I can't organize my thoughts.
00:33:20I keep thinking about my younger self.
00:33:22I keep thinking about my younger self.
00:33:25How old was I?
00:33:29But you knew that it was Musei Tokugawa?
00:33:32Yes.
00:33:33But you knew that it was Musei Tokugawa?
00:33:34Yes.
00:33:35When Musei Tokugawa said,
00:33:37Let's call someone's family.
00:33:39Let's call someone's family.
00:33:41Meiko said,
00:33:43Don't call anyone's family.
00:33:45Don't call anyone's family.
00:33:47I'm worried.
00:33:49I thought it would be nice if it was just a boyfriend.
00:33:52I thought it would be nice if it was just a boyfriend.
00:33:54And then,
00:33:55I happened to get a memo from Yoshiyuki Kodo.
00:33:58I happened to get a memo from Yoshiyuki Kodo.
00:34:00This is my address.
00:34:02This is my phone number.
00:34:03I had it in my pocket.
00:34:04I had it in my pocket.
00:34:06But then was that the beginning of your love?
00:34:09My love?
00:34:10No, your love for her was early.
00:34:12Yeah, the phone call story.
00:34:14When you were giving it to her.
00:34:16Yeah, you thought she was cute.
00:34:18She was cute.
00:34:19So when I heard the story, I thought she was.
00:34:21She makes you want to like her.
00:34:23When you think of liking him,
00:34:25it makes me want to like him.
00:34:28I'm sure you would like him too if you were me.
00:34:30I'm sure you would like him too if you were me.
00:34:31That's why…
00:34:33It's a long story, but there's no end to Meiko-san's stories.
00:34:38The first time I was moved was when I had to go to Kanna-san's funeral.
00:34:44I didn't know how to get on the train, so Kanna-san taught me everything.
00:34:51In the past, when I was at the ticket office, I had to buy a ticket, get off here, walk here, turn right, and so on.
00:35:02She taught me everything, and I said, yes, I understand.
00:35:05But first, I didn't know how far I could buy a ticket.
00:35:10I don't know. So I bought all the tickets.
00:35:1430 yen, 50 yen, 60 yen, 70 yen.
00:35:17I put them on a stamp like this, like a stamp, and asked the ticket officer,
00:35:24which one would you like?
00:35:27He said, pick whichever one you like.
00:35:30I was going to get a ticket, but I didn't have a ticket.
00:35:35I was wondering which one I should get, and a chewing gum came out.
00:35:38Yes, a chewing gum came out at first.
00:35:41So I took the chewing gum out.
00:35:43Chewing gum is a god, isn't it?
00:35:46I said, this is no good.
00:35:49In the old days, Japanese people used to take their time.
00:35:52That's right.
00:35:54You had a good year because you were a member of Kanna-san's family.
00:35:59That's right.
00:36:00No, that's not true.
00:36:02That's right.
00:36:03You had a good year, but you didn't know anything about it.
00:36:07When I said I was a member of a business, he suddenly raised his hand.
00:36:12He raised his hand for everything.
00:36:14His mother was behind him.
00:36:16He said, I'm listening to the students right now.
00:36:19The teacher told me that.
00:36:22That's all I know.
00:36:25Because I was in elementary school.
00:36:27But you got married to Koji-san and got along with him.
00:36:33And then you started working as a housewife and raising children.
00:36:37How was that?
00:36:39It was a mess.
00:36:41I didn't know that life was so hard.
00:36:45You hadn't made rice before, had you?
00:36:48That's right.
00:36:49I didn't know that Koji-san was like that.
00:36:52I was surprised.
00:36:53I asked him what he would do tomorrow morning.
00:36:56He said he would make miso soup.
00:36:59I was worried.
00:37:02I asked him what kind of miso soup he would make.
00:37:09He said he would make wakame seaweed.
00:37:13I know the image of wakame seaweed miso soup.
00:37:17Have you ever eaten it?
00:37:19I didn't know where wakame seaweed was sold.
00:37:23At that time, I lived in a big mansion called Sanbancho in Koji-machi.
00:37:29I asked the shopkeeper if there was a place that sold wakame seaweed.
00:37:34He said,
00:37:36I don't know where it is because it's from the sea.
00:37:40At that time, no one told me where it was.
00:37:43Finally, I found a place that sold kelp.
00:37:49How far did you go?
00:37:51That's not a mistake.
00:37:54I asked for wakame seaweed.
00:37:56It was this wide like a Bridgestone tire.
00:38:01He said,
00:38:02This is wakame seaweed.
00:38:04I was surprised.
00:38:06I brought it home.
00:38:09I put it in the biggest pot and set it on fire.
00:38:15The wakame seaweed was hanging in a big hanger.
00:38:21I lifted the lid of the pot and it came out.
00:38:27I was scared and surprised.
00:38:30I didn't know what to do.
00:38:33I told the shopkeeper,
00:38:35I'm sorry, but you said you sold wakame seaweed miso soup,
00:38:40so I looked for it and bought it.
00:38:43When I put it in the pot, it was like this.
00:38:46The wakame seaweed was hanging out like a tire.
00:38:52The shopkeeper was surprised, but calmed down and said,
00:38:57Let's put the miso soup in the big pot,
00:39:02put the scissors in front of each other,
00:39:05cut it with scissors, soak it in miso soup, and eat it.
00:39:09That's kind.
00:39:11That's kind.
00:39:13Now that I think about it, it was really kind.
00:39:15That's kind.
00:39:17The wakame seaweed miso soup was like that,
00:39:19but he continued to make bento for his children while working every day.
00:39:25I like that.
00:39:28Do you like cooking?
00:39:30I like cooking.
00:39:32It's like an extension of that.
00:39:35What kind of bento did you make?
00:39:37I can make almost anything.
00:39:40I can say it's a side dish.
00:39:42When I asked Mr. Kanna before,
00:39:44he said he wanted something refreshing.
00:39:48I said, okay.
00:39:51I made a set of ochazuke.
00:39:54I put a bowl on top of a small pot,
00:39:58and I put chopsticks in it.
00:40:00I thought it wouldn't taste good if there were no chopsticks in the bowl.
00:40:04And I don't think there's any tea leaves at school,
00:40:07so I put a little bit of it in the silver paper.
00:40:11I wrote a letter saying,
00:40:15Mom, sleep.
00:40:17It's a low voice, isn't it?
00:40:19We say, Mom, sleep.
00:40:23It's a low voice, isn't it?
00:40:25Mom, sleep.
00:40:27I put a bowl on top of a small pot,
00:40:30and I put chopsticks in it.
00:40:32I put a bowl on top of a small pot,
00:40:34and I put chopsticks in it.
00:40:36I put a bowl on top of a small pot,
00:40:38and I put chopsticks in it.
00:40:40I thought it would be cool to have a bento like this.
00:40:43I didn't say that.
00:40:45Seven did it.
00:40:47Really.
00:40:49That's all.
00:40:52She's a fun person.
00:40:54I think she's a fun mom.
00:40:57Mom, you were so excited.
00:41:00Yes, I was so happy to be a mom.
00:41:03That you're going to be a mom.
00:41:05Yes.
00:41:06So it's easier to do it as a role, isn't it?
00:41:10There's no sudden labor or anything like that.
00:41:14There's a baby.
00:41:17I thought that was the way of life.
00:41:21I thought that was the way of life.
00:41:24I don't know any old lady who would take a cut separately.
00:41:28I was really surprised by everything.
00:41:32But Kanna-san and Hazuki-chan are also interesting people.
00:41:39They're wonderful.
00:41:41I thought there were great people.
00:41:44Kanna-san and Hazuki-chan say a lot of things.
00:41:47Meiko-san said,
00:41:49You say so many things to your mother,
00:41:52but I've been working since I was two and a half years old.
00:41:56Meiko-san said that.
00:41:58Then Kanna-san said,
00:42:00Oh, really?
00:42:02You'll be working soon with your eyes closed.
00:42:05Hang in there.
00:42:07It'll be like that soon.
00:42:09Are you okay so far?
00:42:11I was wondering if I was blind.
00:42:15I can see your eyes around here.
00:42:18I can see it.
00:42:20Are you okay?
00:42:22You can see the actor's eyes right away.
00:42:26I see.
00:42:28There's a card that says,
00:42:31You have to look at it right away.
00:42:34With a man named Norihei Miki.
00:42:37With a man named Shigeshi Mori.
00:42:39Norihei Miki can't remember his lines at all.
00:42:42I don't remember at all.
00:42:44I don't remember at all.
00:42:46I've heard rumors that he's been in a lot of places.
00:42:49I've heard rumors that he's been under this sofa.
00:42:53If there was a Yamada Isuzu in the same theater,
00:42:56he'd come to me.
00:42:58He wasn't supposed to come in,
00:43:00but he came in on the way to the play.
00:43:03I said, Hey, do something.
00:43:05What's wrong?
00:43:07He sat on top of my card.
00:43:11Yamada Isuzu?
00:43:13He was holding a Yamada Isuzu card.
00:43:15That's not fair.
00:43:17Everyone's eyes are totally different from the ones in the script.
00:43:24I look at the ceiling.
00:43:27Mr. Yamada was like that, too.
00:43:29Was he?
00:43:31When I was a kid,
00:43:33there was a drama about Plankton cosmetics.
00:43:37What was it?
00:43:39There was a live drama.
00:43:41Norihei Miki was in it.
00:43:43He couldn't remember his lines.
00:43:45He was like this.
00:43:47He was like this.
00:43:49It's like a pantomime.
00:43:51Marisa Sonomori, who was a guest,
00:43:53couldn't stop laughing.
00:43:55It was a serious scene.
00:43:57She turned around and laughed.
00:43:59When I was a kid,
00:44:01I thought,
00:44:03I really laughed.
00:44:05When I was on the stage,
00:44:07Shinsuke Minami and Hachiro Azuma
00:44:09were so funny.
00:44:11I laughed a lot.
00:44:13In the script.
00:44:15Even in TV dramas,
00:44:17it was a live drama.
00:44:19It was all live.
00:44:21If it's live,
00:44:23you have to change your clothes.
00:44:25You have to hurry.
00:44:27The actresses were really...
00:44:29I think the staff at that time
00:44:31had a lot of money.
00:44:33All the beautiful actresses
00:44:35were naked.
00:44:37It was a lot of money.
00:44:39I think it was a lot of money.
00:44:41Did you change your clothes?
00:44:43I didn't have time to hide.
00:44:45So I said,
00:44:47you can take off your underwear.
00:44:49I was told to take off my underwear.
00:44:51In the meantime,
00:44:53I put on a wig.
00:44:55I did a lot of things.
00:44:57It was really hard.
00:44:59But you managed to do it.
00:45:01Yes, I did.
00:45:03Didn't you make any mistakes?
00:45:05I did.
00:45:07There were a lot of things.
00:45:09It was a time drama.
00:45:11The camera staff
00:45:13passed by
00:45:15in a jeep.
00:45:17In front of the camera?
00:45:19In front of the camera.
00:45:21It was the Meiji era.
00:45:23I'm so happy to hear that.
00:45:25I didn't know that at all.
00:45:27It's the best.
00:45:29I heard from Tetsuko Kuranagi
00:45:31that it was a suspense film
00:45:33when it was a live drama.
00:45:35The name of the criminal
00:45:37was Nakamura at first,
00:45:39but someone changed it to Nakajima.
00:45:41How did you change it?
00:45:43It changed more and more.
00:45:47You didn't have time to correct it.
00:45:49That's right.
00:45:51It was a clash.
00:45:53You didn't know
00:45:55where to correct it.
00:45:57You didn't know
00:45:59the name of the real criminal.
00:46:01Actors are still
00:46:03used to such conversations,
00:46:05but when
00:46:07Tanaka Kakuei was a guest
00:46:09on a talk show,
00:46:11I was in trouble
00:46:13when I was
00:46:15on a talk show
00:46:17with Tanaka Kakuei.
00:46:19Anyway,
00:46:21Tanaka Kakuei said,
00:46:23I don't want you to talk
00:46:25all by yourself.
00:46:27I said,
00:46:29I'm sorry,
00:46:31but what is up?
00:46:33The cameraman said,
00:46:35I'm going to show you
00:46:37your face.
00:46:39He said,
00:46:41this is live.
00:46:43I said,
00:46:45I'll do it to show you
00:46:47and he said,
00:46:49what are you talking about?
00:46:51I said,
00:46:53it's very similar.
00:46:55Kozu Kanna and Tanaka Kakuei
00:46:57look alike.
00:46:59Did you get along
00:47:01with Tanaka Kakuei after that?
00:47:03Yes, we got along well.
00:47:05Did you get along well?
00:47:07Did he come to your house?
00:47:09Yes, he came to my house.
00:47:11The most interesting thing
00:47:13was that he liked
00:47:15to give me a lot of things.
00:47:17He gave me a lot of
00:47:19wonderful things,
00:47:21so I asked him
00:47:23what I should bring
00:47:25from home.
00:47:27He gave me
00:47:29a lot of peanuts
00:47:31that looked so delicious.
00:47:33Peanuts in shells.
00:47:35I thought
00:47:37this would be good
00:47:39as a snack for alcohol.
00:47:41Peanuts?
00:47:43He said,
00:47:45I knew it.
00:47:47I wondered
00:47:49what he was talking about.
00:47:51He said,
00:47:53it's about peanuts.
00:47:55Oh, I remember.
00:47:57Did you take it with you?
00:47:59Yes, I did.
00:48:01He said,
00:48:03here you are.
00:48:05Peanuts?
00:48:07He had a scary face.
00:48:09You should have kept quiet.
00:48:11You should have kept quiet.
00:48:13It's a bad habit.
00:48:15He also said,
00:48:17you have sharp eyes.
00:48:19He said,
00:48:21he would buy it for me.
00:48:23Did he tell you to become a politician?
00:48:25Yes, he did.
00:48:27I said,
00:48:29I will never become a politician.
00:48:31Did you say no?
00:48:33He said,
00:48:35please.
00:48:37He said, please.
00:48:39When I talk,
00:48:41people usually
00:48:43laugh at me.
00:48:45Mr. Tsurube,
00:48:47you are a great politician.
00:48:49I want to be a politician,
00:48:51but I have already been.
00:48:53When did you meet Mr. Hibari?
00:48:55After this,
00:48:57we went back in time
00:48:59and talked with
00:49:01Mr. Hibari.
00:49:03Chapter 1
00:49:05A baseball boy by Haida Katsuhiko
00:49:07became a hit.
00:49:09He won a prize
00:49:11in a movie,
00:49:13Rasshaomon.
00:49:15He met
00:49:17a 18-year-old maid,
00:49:19a Showa singer,
00:49:21Ms. Misora Hibari.
00:49:23Ms. Hibari
00:49:25was born after the war,
00:49:27so we met
00:49:29in a magazine after the war.
00:49:31I took this picture
00:49:33in the dressing room.
00:49:35It's cute.
00:49:37It's beautiful.
00:49:39She was about 18,
00:49:41and he was about 16.
00:49:43Ms. Hibari was younger.
00:49:45Yes, she was.
00:49:47She was an adult.
00:49:49Ms. Hibari,
00:49:51we want to have a rest
00:49:53like normal girls,
00:49:55and we want to do
00:49:57normal things.
00:49:59Then he said,
00:50:01I don't think so.
00:50:03I said, yes.
00:50:05I said, yes.
00:50:07Because we sell
00:50:09our dreams.
00:50:11If you are
00:50:13worried,
00:50:15you have to
00:50:17put up with it.
00:50:19I thought,
00:50:21wow, what is he?
00:50:23He was 16.
00:50:25He was younger than me.
00:50:27I was surprised.
00:50:29But you got along, right?
00:50:31Yes, we did.
00:50:33Did you meet and eat together?
00:50:35Yes, but
00:50:37if I went to a normal place,
00:50:39people would tease me,
00:50:41so I went to a hotel
00:50:43or a street vendor.
00:50:45A tea shop, right?
00:50:47Yes, a tea shop.
00:50:49I asked him,
00:50:51what are we going to do?
00:50:53He said,
00:50:55you can do it.
00:50:57I said, I can't do anything.
00:50:59Normal children
00:51:01can't do anything.
00:51:03They can't do anything.
00:51:05They can't do anything.
00:51:07It takes a long time
00:51:09for them to get used to it.
00:51:11It takes a long time
00:51:13for them to get used to it.
00:51:15It was really hard.
00:51:17It was really hard.
00:51:19I laughed a lot with him.
00:51:21Have you ever
00:51:23visited him?
00:51:25Mr. Hibaya?
00:51:27Yes, I did.
00:51:29I stayed at his place.
00:51:31You were married, right?
00:51:33Yes, we were newlyweds.
00:51:35When I stayed at his place,
00:51:37he said,
00:51:39this is the only place
00:51:41you can sleep.
00:51:43I said,
00:51:45this is the only place
00:51:47you can sleep.
00:51:49In a double bed?
00:51:51In a single bed?
00:51:53Yes.
00:51:55Normally,
00:51:57if you have a female friend,
00:51:59a female friend
00:52:01will sleep next to her.
00:52:03Mr. Kozu,
00:52:05Ms. Meiko,
00:52:07Mr. Hibari.
00:52:09I think that's normal.
00:52:11He said,
00:52:13I'm always in the center.
00:52:15He said,
00:52:17I'm always in the center.
00:52:19Wow.
00:52:21Mr. Kozu.
00:52:23I couldn't sleep at all.
00:52:25He said,
00:52:27I'm always in the center.
00:52:29That's amazing.
00:52:31That's amazing.
00:52:33Have you ever heard
00:52:35Mr. Hibari's worries or tears?
00:52:37Many times.
00:52:39Was it hard?
00:52:41He was a crybaby.
00:52:43He was a crybaby?
00:52:45He cried all the time.
00:52:47I did something bad.
00:52:49To whom?
00:52:51When I married Mr. Akira Kobayashi.
00:52:53He said,
00:52:55Meiko, Akira is a good man, isn't he?
00:52:57I said,
00:52:59I don't like him that much.
00:53:01You were hurt.
00:53:03I said,
00:53:05I want to keep him as a pet.
00:53:07I said,
00:53:09I want to keep him as a pet.
00:53:11I said,
00:53:13I want to keep him as a pet.
00:53:15But he didn't answer me.
00:53:17But he didn't answer me.
00:53:19But he didn't answer me.
00:53:23When I talked with Mr. Hibari,
00:53:25he was like a crybaby.
00:53:27He was a crybaby?
00:53:29He was a crybaby?
00:53:31You always sing your own songs
00:53:33You always sing your own songs
00:53:35as if you are good at it.
00:53:37as if you are good at it.
00:53:39as if you are good at it.
00:53:41What would you do
00:53:43if Mr. Hibari could meet you?
00:53:45If Mr. Hibari could meet you?
00:53:47I see.
00:53:49He's a feminine,
00:53:51gentleman.
00:53:53If Mr. Hibari cooed
00:53:55You would be home.
00:53:57You would be home.
00:53:59I think it's interesting to see such a gentleman.
00:54:01You have not seen him
00:54:03since he became a sick person,
00:54:05so you haven't consoled him for a long time.
00:54:07So you have not seen him
00:54:09since he became a sick person,
00:54:11I didn't say a word about how painful or painful it was, or what to do with Meiko.
00:54:19I just kept quiet.
00:54:21I died in silence, but when I ran to her when she was gone,
00:54:28I wrote in her handwriting,
00:54:31「泣き虫、メイコに」
00:54:35and she said,
00:54:37「This is for you, Meiko-san. I got it from my daughter-in-law.
00:54:43I was wondering what it was,
00:54:45and it was my sunglasses and a handkerchief I had forgotten about.
00:54:51It was washed cleanly.
00:54:54Please give this to Meiko, the crybaby.
00:54:58It's sad, isn't it?
00:55:01It was something I had to do in the entertainment world since I was little.
00:55:07It was something I could relate to.
00:55:12But it was too soon.
00:55:15It's good that there are so many people who can talk about it.
00:55:20If there were no one to talk about it,
00:55:23it would be nice if Meiko could talk about it.
00:55:29It must have been hard for her to be called one of Japan's greatest singers.
00:55:37But she had a different job,
00:55:40and you became close friends.
00:55:43Did you have anything in common?
00:55:47She was from Yokohama, and I was from Edo.
00:55:52I think we both had a personality that was unique to Kanto people.
00:56:01It was something I had to do in the entertainment world since I was little.
00:56:08It was something I could relate to.
00:56:11That's right.
00:56:13We had different hobbies.
00:56:18I've never done anything like this since I was born.
00:56:23It's your job, so you have to dress up like that.
00:56:27But that's what I usually do.
00:56:29Is that so?
00:56:31In a good way, I'm a simple person who doesn't know anything.
00:56:37Meiko, I'm going to take a picture of you skiing next time.
00:56:42Is this a good sweater for skiing?
00:56:45Is this a good hat?
00:56:47Do you have gloves? Do you wear racing gloves?
00:56:51I'm on stage, aren't I?
00:56:54I don't wear racing gloves when I ski.
00:56:58Really? Who decided that?
00:57:01Who decided that?
00:57:03She was a really cute person.
00:57:05You're cute, too.
00:57:07I can imitate everything.
00:57:10You look like Chouichiro Sakurai.
00:57:13You don't know that, do you?
00:57:15I don't know the nostalgic name.
00:57:17You don't know it?
00:57:19I purposely said that I didn't know it.
00:57:21You're Chouichiro Sakurai, right?
00:57:23I'm in a position to teach you what you don't know.
00:57:28I'm in a position to teach you what you don't know.
00:57:33You went to buy seaweed, didn't you?
00:57:36You look proud.
00:57:38You're getting used to it.
00:57:40You're getting used to it.
00:57:42I see.
00:57:43You didn't look like a girl.
00:57:45You look like a girl.
00:57:47I guess so.
00:57:49You look like a girl.
00:57:51I guess so.
00:57:52How do I look?
00:57:53There's Yoshinosuke below me.
00:57:55Yoshinosuke is a man.
00:57:57He's a painter.
00:57:59You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:01You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:03You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:05You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:07You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:09You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:11You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:13You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:15You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:17You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:19You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:21You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:23You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:25You look like Yoshinosuke.
00:58:27We've been talking for an hour.
00:58:29We've been talking for an hour.
00:58:31Who are you?
00:58:35But it's a funny story.
00:58:37You know a lot.
00:58:39It's a treasure chest.
00:58:41It's a treasure chest.
00:58:43It's a treasure chest.
00:58:45It's a treasure chest.
00:58:47It's a treasure chest.
00:58:49It's a treasure chest.
00:58:51It's a treasure chest.
00:58:53It's a treasure chest.
00:58:55It was easy to see on TV, wasn't it?
00:58:57He was not deceived, was he?
00:58:59He was deceived.
00:59:01What did you do for him to be deceived?
00:59:03He was deceived.
00:59:05He fascilated the filming location
00:59:07near this place.
00:59:09I went up to this cart
00:59:10because I thought there would be
00:59:13a lot of fancy clothes there.
00:59:15So I went and got them.
00:59:17I went and got them.
00:59:19I thought he was a good filmer.
00:59:21I told him about the pictures
00:59:23So I told Mr. Kozu that this happened today, and he said,
00:59:28you're a thief!
00:59:31I said, is that true?
00:59:34It's like an old novel,
00:59:36you're a thief!
00:59:40Mr. Kozu's great episode,
00:59:42I'm going to say it again,
00:59:44Kanna, the eldest daughter,
00:59:47Meiko does a lot of things,
00:59:51I want you to be a normal mother.
00:59:55Did Kanna say that?
00:59:57I want you to be a mother.
00:59:59But Meiko said she would do something like this,
01:00:03so I made a declaration and stood up to her.
01:00:07Mr. Kozu was there,
01:00:10and he said,
01:00:12Kanna, don't think of this person as your mother.
01:00:15Think of her as Meiko Nakamura.
01:00:19Did he say that in front of the four of you?
01:00:23Even now, when I say something,
01:00:26he says, shut up.
01:00:28Most of what you say is wrong.
01:00:31It's blocked.
01:00:34That's funny.
01:00:36Is there anyone else you've almost forgotten,
01:00:39but who you thought was wonderful?
01:00:42Mr. Yamada is a really wonderful woman of love.
01:00:47A woman of love?
01:00:49Is that what you mean?
01:00:51Yes, that's what I mean.
01:00:53Meiko, I messed up again.
01:00:56Again?
01:00:57Is it a man's problem?
01:00:59Of course it is.
01:01:01It's just a man's problem.
01:01:03Is that so?
01:01:05Yesterday, I got drunk and went home.
01:01:08I said, I'm home.
01:01:10The man who lives there said,
01:01:13you made a mistake.
01:01:15I said, I'm the host until yesterday.
01:01:18I said, you can't come back here.
01:01:22And I went back to the previous host.
01:01:25It's really wonderful.
01:01:28That's wonderful.
01:01:30He was a really beautiful man.
01:01:34It's wonderful that the previous host said that, too.
01:01:39There are many wonderful Japanese people in the past.
01:01:43Yes, there are many.
01:01:45What I feel sorry for the current entertainers is
01:01:49that they can't do journalism.
01:01:52If they write a lot of things like that...
01:01:55That's right.
01:01:57They write about the world on social media.
01:02:00Meiko, if you get drunk, please tell me.
01:02:03What?
01:02:04If I get thirsty.
01:02:06Thank you very much.
01:02:08I'll do it.
01:02:09I don't get thirsty no matter how much I talk.
01:02:12That's good.
01:02:14If you get thirsty, please tell me before you drink.
01:02:18The toilet is near, so I don't drink.
01:02:21I see. I didn't tell you that.
01:02:26And while AKB48 was popular,
01:02:30the consumption tax was increased by 8%.
01:02:33In 2026,
01:02:3780-year-old Meiko
01:02:39threw away all her belongings.
01:02:44I threw away everything in my house.
01:02:48Instead of throwing away men,
01:02:51I really threw away things.
01:02:54You don't have any regrets about throwing things away, do you?
01:02:59No, I don't.
01:03:01I threw away about 50 kimonos.
01:03:04That's a lot.
01:03:06I threw them all away.
01:03:08I also threw away trophies and awards I received a long time ago.
01:03:12You must have a lot of money.
01:03:14I threw them all away.
01:03:16I spent a lot of money on my grandchildren.
01:03:19I threw them all away.
01:03:21Trophies.
01:03:22Meiko somehow won the Best Actress Award.
01:03:25Isn't it important for you to throw things away?
01:03:30I think it's important to remember it in my heart.
01:03:36I throw away everything.
01:03:38You don't throw away Yoshiyuki's belongings, do you?
01:03:42I don't throw away his belongings on my own.
01:03:46When I ask him,
01:03:48he says,
01:03:50I don't throw away his belongings.
01:03:52It's hard for him to say no.
01:03:56Maybe.
01:03:57When I put the trash in a plastic bag and went to the dump,
01:04:01the garbage collector said,
01:04:04You can't throw away anything.
01:04:08I was scolded by the garbage collector.
01:04:12Yoshiyuki doesn't say,
01:04:14You can't throw away anything.
01:04:16He doesn't say that either.
01:04:18I see.
01:04:20Did you give it to someone?
01:04:22I gave it to him as much as I could.
01:04:26I gave it to him as much as I could.
01:04:28I gave it to him as much as I could.
01:04:30I gave it to him as much as I could.
01:04:32What is mail-calling?
01:04:34When you send out old things on the Internet,
01:04:38When you send out old things on the Internet,
01:04:42you say, I don't need this.
01:04:44You take a picture and post it.
01:04:46You say, I'll buy it at this price.
01:04:48You say, I'll buy it at this price.
01:04:50Various used goods are sold at a good price.
01:04:53You shouldn't talk about it.
01:04:55I'm sure you'll get me out.
01:04:59You're so noisy.
01:05:01I'm sure you're not.
01:05:03It's so funny.
01:05:05It's so funny.
01:05:07It's funny, isn't it?
01:05:09It's so funny.
01:05:11It's just funny.
01:05:13I've never been told it's cute or beautiful.
01:05:16It's all funny and cute.
01:05:19I don't know what Yoshiyuki thinks.
01:05:22I don't know what Yoshiyuki thinks.
01:05:26Mr. Morishige said,
01:05:28Mr. Morishige said,
01:05:30I thought it was unusual.
01:05:32I thought it was unusual.
01:05:34I thought it was unusual.
01:05:36He remembered all the lines.
01:05:38That's how he evaluated it.
01:05:40He remembers the lines.
01:05:44Did you ever meet Mr. Morishige sexually?
01:05:47Did you ever meet Mr. Morishige sexually?
01:05:49I've seen him a lot.
01:05:51I've seen him a lot.
01:05:53How did you avoid it?
01:05:55There's a lot of people,
01:05:57There's a lot of people,
01:05:59and there's Yuzumi Yukimura,
01:06:01and there's me,
01:06:03and there's me,
01:06:05and Mr. Hibari was a bit weird.
01:06:08Did you get touched by Mr. Morishige today?
01:06:10Did you get touched by Mr. Morishige today?
01:06:12I'm sure he would have done it if he touched me.
01:06:14I'm sure he would have done it if he touched me.
01:06:16It was like that.
01:06:18It was a good time.
01:06:20It's a good time.
01:06:22It was a big deal.
01:06:25And now,
01:06:27Meiko's present and future.
01:06:3589-year-old Meiko.
01:06:37Her present and future.
01:06:41My favorite episode is
01:06:43when my husband told me to get a book from Amazon.
01:06:49And Meiko said,
01:06:52From Amazon?
01:06:55I was surprised.
01:06:56I asked her,
01:06:57Isn't it wet?
01:06:59It's so far from Amazon.
01:07:03I heard that Mr. Kozo Yoshizuki was surprised.
01:07:07I think so.
01:07:08He was surprised for 2 or 3 years after marriage.
01:07:112 or 3 years?
01:07:12It's still surprising.
01:07:14Really?
01:07:15Do you fight sometimes?
01:07:17I still fight sometimes.
01:07:19Even now?
01:07:20Do you fight now?
01:07:22Yes, I do.
01:07:23I don't feel good.
01:07:24I stay silent all the time.
01:07:26What do you do when you stay silent?
01:07:29I say what I want to say,
01:07:31but I don't know why I stay silent.
01:07:33Then he says,
01:07:34When did you prepare this?
01:07:36It says,
01:07:37I'm writing a song.
01:07:39I put a tag on my forehead.
01:07:44I don't have to be embarrassed.
01:07:46You're so energetic.
01:07:48I'm impressed.
01:07:50You don't live with Mr. Kanna now, do you?
01:07:54We don't live together.
01:07:56But we live close to each other.
01:07:58Is his voice still low?
01:08:01His voice is still low.
01:08:03When I was in elementary school,
01:08:06I was with my cute kids.
01:08:09When I was watching them in the back,
01:08:12they were saying,
01:08:13Yes, yes.
01:08:15I was so embarrassed.
01:08:18Yes, yes, yes.
01:08:20You were in elementary school.
01:08:22Yes, I was.
01:08:24I've heard a lot about you.
01:08:28What do you think of yourself?
01:08:30You've been on TV for a long time.
01:08:34What do you mean?
01:08:36What do you mean?
01:08:38I don't know what you mean.
01:08:40I don't know what you mean.
01:08:42I don't know what you mean.
01:08:43I don't know what you mean.
01:08:44I don't know what you mean.
01:08:45I'm happy.
01:08:46We want to work until we're that age.
01:08:50You still work a lot, don't you?
01:08:53When I met you the other day,
01:08:55you were a regular on the radio since you were 85 years old.
01:08:59Do you want to work?
01:09:01I want to.
01:09:03That's my daily life.
01:09:05When I wake up in the morning,
01:09:07I ask myself,
01:09:09What was today's schedule?
01:09:11There were almost no days when I didn't have anything.
01:09:14That's amazing.
01:09:16What do you think of the present era?
01:09:19Me?
01:09:20Yes, you.
01:09:21I think it's like this.
01:09:24Oh, I see.
01:09:25I've always been like this.
01:09:27You know, during the war,
01:09:29I was like a child.
01:09:31So I thought,
01:09:34It's just that I'm not used to the routine.
01:09:38When I was in elementary school,
01:09:40I only went to elementary school.
01:09:44It's Hanihoheto Iroha.
01:09:47Hanihoheto Iroha?
01:09:49It's not Doremi, Fa, So, Ra, Shi, Do.
01:09:51It's Hoto, I, To, Ho, To, Ha.
01:09:53For example, Harunogawa.
01:09:54I, To, Ho, Ha, Ni, Ho.
01:09:56Hoto, I, To, Ho, To, Ha, Ha.
01:09:58I, To, Ho, Ni, Ho, Ha.
01:10:00Wow.
01:10:01You don't know it, do you?
01:10:03No, I didn't know it either.
01:10:05Really?
01:10:06I didn't know it at all.
01:10:07That's how I was taught in elementary school.
01:10:09How did you sing it?
01:10:10Hoto, I, To, Ho, To, Ha, Ha.
01:10:11I, To, Ho, Ha, Ni, Ho.
01:10:13Hoto, I, To, Ho, To, Ha, Ha.
01:10:14I, To, Ho, Ni, Ho, Ha.
01:10:16Ni, Ho, Ni, To, I, To, I.
01:10:18Ha, Ha, Ro, I, To, To, Ho.
01:10:20Hoto, I, To, Ho, To, Ha, Ha.
01:10:22I, To, Ho, Ha, Ni, Ho.
01:10:23How did you know it?
01:10:24I just remembered it now.
01:10:25You remembered it now?
01:10:26I think you'll remember it even now.
01:10:28You were so excited, and you were like,
01:10:30this is it, this is it, this is it.
01:10:32You remembered it?
01:10:33I remembered it.
01:10:34You're amazing.
01:10:35You didn't know it?
01:10:36No.
01:10:37You didn't know it at all?
01:10:38It's the times.
01:10:39No, it's the times.
01:10:40You don't listen to that much of the times.
01:10:43But you don't get angry or angry at the world
01:10:46or the world or the world
01:10:48because the times are changing
01:10:51at a faster pace than when you were young?
01:10:54I don't.
01:10:55You don't?
01:10:56You don't?
01:10:57That's why.
01:10:58That's what's amazing.
01:11:00It's like, have you gotten used to it?
01:11:03I heard this before.
01:11:05Even when you're filming a play or a movie,
01:11:08you don't object to what the director says?
01:11:12No.
01:11:13You don't give an opinion?
01:11:15No.
01:11:16If I were to say the same thing,
01:11:18it's the same for me.
01:11:20When I'm told to do a play,
01:11:22I can't just do what this person wants to do.
01:11:25If I do something similar to what this person wants to do,
01:11:28I don't feel that way at all
01:11:30because I'm making a play for this person.
01:11:32If I do it like the director wants me to,
01:11:35it'll go smoothly.
01:11:37That's when the actors are happy.
01:11:40When they say,
01:11:41okay, thank you,
01:11:42I get that feeling right away.
01:11:44What kind of director left an impression on you?
01:11:47The one I respect the most is
01:11:51Mr. Naruse.
01:11:53Why?
01:11:54He's a great director.
01:11:57A great director?
01:11:58Yes.
01:11:59But when I think of Mr. Naruse,
01:12:02there were a lot of serious plays.
01:12:05He said,
01:12:06why don't you try crouching down?
01:12:09I said,
01:12:10next is crouching cat,
01:12:12crouching cat.
01:12:13He said,
01:12:14don't be silly.
01:12:18Does it sound similar?
01:12:21You make a lot of mistakes, don't you?
01:12:24I make mistakes, but I like it.
01:12:26Don't be silly.
01:12:29Serious cat,
01:12:31don't be silly.
01:12:33You've been doing a lot of things since you were 2 and a half years old.
01:12:38I've done this,
01:12:40I've done this show,
01:12:41I've met this person.
01:12:43Don't you feel proud of yourself?
01:12:46Not really.
01:12:47No?
01:12:48I don't feel proud of myself.
01:12:50I don't feel proud of myself.
01:12:53What did you eat last night?
01:12:55Last night?
01:12:57That's terrible.
01:12:59Koji made it.
01:13:01I didn't say I forgot.
01:13:04You suddenly look like a doctor.
01:13:07What did you eat last night?
01:13:09That's not what I meant.
01:13:11You were nervous.
01:13:12No, no, no.
01:13:14That's not what I meant.
01:13:18What did you eat last night?
01:13:20Last night?
01:13:22You don't remember, do you?
01:13:24That's strange.
01:13:26What did you eat last night?
01:13:28I remember.
01:13:30I ate spaghetti.
01:13:32Do you cook yourself?
01:13:36I was out yesterday,
01:13:38but I cook a lot now.
01:13:40Because of COVID-19,
01:13:42I don't have to cook anymore.
01:13:46What are you interested in right now?
01:13:48Right now?
01:13:50I don't know.
01:13:52Right now...
01:13:54I don't know.
01:13:56I've never been interested in anything.
01:14:00Ever since I was little.
01:14:03That's true.
01:14:05It just comes to you.
01:14:07Why do you want to do this?
01:14:09Right.
01:14:11But if I ask you what you want to do,
01:14:14you just have to give it to me.
01:14:16You like to look for interesting things
01:14:18in the places where you were given.
01:14:20That's right.
01:14:22Are you okay with COVID-19?
01:14:26It doesn't affect me at all.
01:14:28I really don't care about
01:14:32infectious diseases.
01:14:35Nothing?
01:14:37Since I was little,
01:14:39I've never been sick
01:14:41because of the bad air in the studio.
01:14:43Because I'm on a submarine.
01:14:45A fighter jet.
01:14:47I'm on a fighter jet.
01:14:49Even if I'm on a submarine
01:14:51in such a small space,
01:14:53I won't get sick.
01:14:55Is your body strong?
01:14:57I don't know.
01:14:59It's thin.
01:15:01I used to have a fever,
01:15:03but I used to have a fever.
01:15:05I used to have a fever,
01:15:07but I used to have a fever,
01:15:09but I used to have a fever.
01:15:11I took Mayko to the hospital.
01:15:13Mayko, this is called a concussion.
01:15:17It's a stomach disease.
01:15:19Do you understand?
01:15:21Why don't you answer?
01:15:23It's a concussion.
01:15:25It's a concussion.
01:15:27That's what they said.
01:15:29Mayko's voice is funny,
01:15:31a little hoarse.
01:15:33a little hoarse.
01:15:35Really?
01:15:37It's a concussion.
01:15:39Tanaka Gakuya-san.
01:15:41What?
01:15:43Hibari-san.
01:15:45No.
01:15:47You're mean.
01:15:49No, I'm not.
01:15:51I thought you were good.
01:15:53What's with that face?
01:15:55Let's see.
01:15:57Today is the 5th year of Reiwa.
01:15:59What kind of day was it today?
01:16:03It's the usual day.
01:16:05It doesn't change.
01:16:07It doesn't change.
01:16:09It doesn't change no matter where you are.
01:16:11It doesn't change.
01:16:13That's an excellent answer.
01:16:15It's the usual day.
01:16:17So I had three children.
01:16:19I gave birth to them
01:16:21because they were in pain.
01:16:23At that time,
01:16:25I thought,
01:16:27how many more times
01:16:29will this happen?
01:16:31Please bring me a mirror.
01:16:33I wondered what kind of face
01:16:35I would have when I was born.
01:16:37You're like an actress.
01:16:39I'm like an actress
01:16:41only in that aspect.
01:16:43That was amazing.
01:16:47I'm flattered.
01:16:49But it was really fun.
01:16:53Did I talk too much?
01:16:55Not at all.
01:16:57I've been here for 90 years,
01:16:59but I didn't talk too much.
01:17:01I've been working with
01:17:03Mr. Enoken and
01:17:05Mr. Entatsu-Achako
01:17:07for a long time.
01:17:09I'll tell you
01:17:11interesting stories about them.
01:17:15I'll tell you about Kansai next time.
01:17:17Thank you very much.
01:17:19It was fun.
01:17:23Did I talk too much?
01:17:25Not at all.
01:17:27Finally,
01:17:29the words of life.
01:17:35With a soft heart
01:17:37like a baby,
01:17:39forever,
01:17:41Meiko Nakamura.
01:17:47Thank you very much.
01:17:49It was very interesting.
01:17:51Thank you very much.
01:17:53How many hours did you work?
01:17:55Was it good?
01:17:57It was a waste of time.
01:17:59Let's drink again.
01:18:01Really?
01:18:03Let's go home.
01:18:07It was fun.
01:18:09I'm glad to meet you.
01:18:11Let's drink again.
01:18:13Please contact Mr. Hazuki.
01:18:15I can do it now.
01:18:17I'll talk to him.
01:18:21Was it good?
01:18:23Master.
01:18:31I want to do a lot of interesting things.
01:18:35Thank you very much.
01:18:37Thank you very much.
01:18:41Tsurube and Agawa
01:18:43loved each other very much.
01:18:45Showa's senior,
01:18:47Meiko Nakamura.
01:18:49It's a very precious
01:18:51and wonderful story.
01:18:53Thank you very much.
01:18:55Thank you very much.
01:18:57I danced with him.
01:18:59I cried.
01:19:01I made a scary face.
01:19:03Well,
01:19:05it was the fifth time.