Mark Zuckerberg is claiming that the Biden administration called up his team, yelling and cursing at them, demanding they take down memes about the COVID-19 pandemic.
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00:00Mark Zuckerberg started the week announcing all these changes to
00:05Meadows social media platforms said that he was going to be working with the Trump administration
00:09And now he's ending the week on Joe Rogan's podcast tensing a theme a little bit. Yes
00:16More than a little bit. He's on Joe Rogan's podcast and one of the topics he
00:23Delved deeper into was the Biden administration and his complaints about the Biden administration
00:29Well, it goes to what he was talking about earlier in which he calls censorship of Facebook
00:34And he delivered it squarely on Joe's podcast. It was during the Biden administration when they were trying to roll out
00:42The vaccine program and
00:45Now I'm generally like pretty pro rolling out vaccines. I think on balance the vaccines are more positive than negative, but I
00:53think that
00:54While they're trying to push that program
00:57They also tried to censor anyone who is basically arguing against it and they pushed us super hard
01:04To take down to things that were honestly were true, right?
01:08I mean, they basically pushed us and said, you know anything that
01:13Says that vaccines might have side effects. You basically need to take down and
01:19I
01:20Was just like well, we're not gonna do that. Hmm. That's terrible and we knew that was going on
01:25I mean there was something else and again, I don't want to say this because it's not a political statement
01:31But also they couldn't say anything about where the vaccine came from that if you said the vaccine
01:35No
01:36We're the virus came where the virus came from rather if you said it came from a Chinese lab you were you were xenophobic and it's
01:42something you couldn't say so there was a lot of censorship and
01:46The reality is this and I think there is this overarching theme that we should not be
01:52Censoring speech so that one side of an argument gets all the attention and you muzzle the other side
02:00Let people hear both sides. That is the core of democracy and free speech that if you don't allow that you don't have democracy
02:08It's the most un-american thing
02:10It's it's what you'd see in a banana Republic not the United States of America and then to think that actually a lot of these
02:15Things either were true in the moment or we found out were true later and those things were quashed
02:20It's it's the most un-american thing you could ever have. It's why the pendulum swung in the opposite direction
02:26I mean, it's why the pendulum swung and and to your point if those things even if those things turned out to not be true
02:34it
02:35It's out there and everyone gets to make their you're gonna know what's true
02:39If you have a real debate what Zuckerberg is saying is that the government wanted to make sure if his
02:45Allegation is correct, and I can't imagine why he would just lie about something that was so
02:50Easily the administration could come out and deny right but if that's the case
02:54Then what he's saying is they wanted to make sure that as many people as possible
03:00We're going to get this vaccine and they didn't want to determine any right
03:05Anything out there that would make you go like that
03:07That's not that's not America where you say don't put the other side out the other side
03:13You may disagree with but you've got to allow it in order free speech means you have to tolerate speech
03:18You don't agree with if you if you only have speech you agree with and muzzle the other side
03:23That's not free speech. Even if you think you have the right point of view. That's not free speech. You have to tolerate
03:30It's been so interesting to see Zuckerberg. He seems like a different person. He does. He's unrecognizable
03:36Doesn't he I wonder though. Is this just him reacting although Babcock that felt very
03:41Measured
03:44That he did not I mean he he is now in line with
03:50Trump and is but I think he also doesn't wanna
03:54Just reacting to the sort of the winds and now he sees. Okay. This is now gone in Trump's favor
04:00He was kissing the ring, right? I have a feeling we might not be hearing the same things from Zuck had
04:05Kamala Harris won the election. I feel like it would probably be business as usual
04:08I I don't know. He just does he seems like a different person to me
04:13He did also and you you I think you're interested in this Harvey
04:15He also did speak about something completely unrelated to the political stuff
04:19This is a story that we have obviously covered a bunch here. Remember Elon Musk Mark Zuckerberg
04:24They had talked about doing that big fight. It was actually gonna go down in Italy at the Coliseum
04:28It fell apart Zuckerberg said at the time
04:31This is mid 2023 that he was interested in taking a real fight against a professional MMA fighter
04:36One of the things he also talked about today with Joe Rogan was that he still wants to do that
04:41I told you Babcock Mike you and I talked about this yesterday
04:45We talked about this yesterday
04:47He told me to check in with Dana White to see if Mark Zuckerberg was still interested in taking a and you said
04:52Nah, he's not gonna do that. I thought there was no way he tore his ACL. He's had injuries. He's getting older
04:58I thought no way he's gonna fight a real fight
05:00I mean saying he wants to is different than it's gonna happen, right? There's still
05:06Quite a gap there. Yeah, I want to go back to something because I just find this so interesting and you know
05:13I kind of put Hollywood and the Silicon Valley kind of in the same, but maybe I should you absolutely cannot but but
05:20there was this kind of thing, especially in Hollywood where
05:26People, you know, there were some people who were outspoken who favored Trump
05:31Who would speak no matter what but there were a lot of people where you felt like you were gonna get blackballed
05:36I mean, that's what they were so you didn't they didn't wouldn't talk if you heard from them. They weren't talking about politics
05:41that's right, it feels like it's not only changed but the
05:47Voice that loud voice in Hollywood has been quieted some and on the other side
05:54It's more it's much more permissive and you're seeing that with the Mark Zuckerberg's with the Jeff Bezos with I mean
06:01I don't want to say Elon Musk. He was always there
06:04But with a lot of people even Elon, I mean, he just did it before everybody else
06:08But even Elon Musk, I mean, that's true. There was a shift when that happened. So it's it's weird and
06:15I'm just gonna be fascinated to see what the future is of
06:20celebrities
06:21Weighing in in politics
06:23It doesn't work and all of that the the loudness and the voices and everything else if you noticed
06:29At the Golden Globes
06:31Didn't hear those speeches
06:33Not a lot of you did not hear those speeches at the Golden Globes
06:37No, and I don't think you're gonna hear that the way you did up to this up to the election
06:42Yeah, I just don't think it's gonna happen