¿Sabías que Mariana Derderian nació en Venezuela y es descendiente de armenios?
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00:00Do I make it short or long?
00:02It depends, but I can edit it.
00:04Yes, but give me context.
00:06Oh, how beautiful!
00:08Is this in Venezuela?
00:10This is in Venezuela.
00:12My Armenian grandparents...
00:16The history of Armenia, the Turkish invasion,
00:18genocide,
00:20orphaned grandparents at a very young age.
00:22They were taken by the UNG.
00:24An UNG takes them to the Armenian neighborhood
00:26in Jerusalem.
00:28There was a lot of orphanage,
00:30a lot of...
00:32We were taking children...
00:34That's the reality of your grandparents.
00:36So...
00:38Yes, my grandmother was like...
00:40But let's tell it with joy.
00:42So, the thing is that...
00:44They started to hunt.
00:46To hunt kids, you know?
00:48So they hunt them, they put them on a boat
00:50and they get to Valparaiso.
00:52And from there they go to Quijota.
00:54And they had no idea
00:56about their lives.
00:58Because, let's say,
01:00they had gone through a traumatic moment.
01:02Nothing, not even a word in Spanish.
01:04Nothing, nothing, nothing.
01:06How old are we talking about?
01:08How much information do you have?
01:10They, as they never remembered,
01:12and my grandmother's name was Sirvat,
01:14and it means rose bud,
01:16she chose that her birthday
01:18was going to be for Santa Rosa.
01:20And she said, I'm 13.
01:22More or less.
01:24So we started to count.
01:26And Sirvat,
01:28for me it's an honor, I have it,
01:30it's one of my few tattoos.
01:32Here I have Sirvat,
01:34in honor of my wonderful grandmother,
01:36who I only saw once in my life.
01:38So, yes.
01:40It's a sad story,
01:42but I feel very proud.
01:44And when you were able to talk to,
01:46I don't know, your father,
01:48or also thinking a little about this story
01:50that your grandmother passed on to your parents,
01:52how was her evolution later,
01:54with all this trauma and all this?
01:56I mean, they left having like a kiosk
01:58in La Cruz, which is a smaller town
02:00next to Quillota.
02:04And then it grew, and grew, and grew,
02:06but deep down my grandmother was a warrior.
02:08She had six children,
02:10she got ahead with him,
02:14he died before her, let's say.
02:16But they kept a marriage?
02:18Of course, they kept it.
02:20In this circumstance that they were also married?
02:22I think it was like that before.
02:24Before it was like, well,
02:26especially them who came as refugees.
02:28It's like a fraternity,
02:30it's your family.
02:32It's a kind of affection that was formed there.
02:34Of survival.
02:36It's survival, it's like the only thing I have.
02:38And on top of that, they called them the Turks,
02:40which was like the offense.
02:42My aunts,
02:44to put a funny thing,
02:46my aunts, when the Turkish tricycles were in fashion,
02:48she loved it,
02:50but she saw it with a guilt,
02:52so she saw it as a day in the middle.
02:54Because she couldn't see it,
02:56like, forgive me mom.
02:58But a day in the middle.
03:00But a day in the middle.
03:02And you go to Venezuela later?
03:04Of course, my parents go to Venezuela,
03:06and I have an older brother,
03:08I'm 41 years old,
03:10my sister is 42.
03:12Sometimes the quarantines are not respected.
03:14So,
03:16the thing is that my sister,
03:18as the first daughter,
03:20they came to have her in Chile.
03:22My mom wanted to be with her mother,
03:24her sisters, and feel protected.
03:26And then she realized it was a party.
03:28And the second child?
03:30And there I arrived.
03:32In Venezuela.
03:34In Caracas.
03:36How long did you live in Venezuela?
03:38Until I was 9, almost 10.
03:40And what happened when you arrived in Chile?
03:42It's very different from Venezuela.
03:44In addition, thinking about Venezuela,
03:46the climate, the way to dress,
03:48the cold,
03:50I imagine,
03:52I'm talking about 60 years ago,
03:54a Venezuela very different from now.
03:56A Venezuela...
03:58Paradise.
04:00Very rich, very rich, wonderful.
04:02Yes, it was strong.
04:04I really never thought we were going to come.
04:06Well, I was a girl too,
04:08but I always thought that everything was happening there.
04:10And, of course,
04:12my parents wanted to be with the family again,
04:14and to raise us with the cousins,
04:16and all those things.
04:18But you spoke like a Venezuelan.
04:20Oh, my mom comes to pick me up in the car.
04:22What?
04:24Bullying, bullying, bullying.
04:26Basic room, of course.
04:28When I arrived at school,
04:30I said, hello teacher,
04:32tell me aunt, because if you are not my aunt,
04:34why do I have to tell you that you are my aunt,
04:36if you are not my aunt?
04:38And I said,
04:40but I started to add everything,
04:42my mom comes to pick me up in the car,
04:44so that no one would bother me.
04:46Obviously.
04:48I put everything,
04:50and little by little,
04:52it was what I wanted the most.
04:54Of course, at home I say,
04:56that the fridge, that the drawer,
04:58that the fridge.
05:00I say fridge, I say drawer,
05:02let's go to the supermarket,
05:04because my parents also keep talking
05:06with certain words from the newspaper.
05:08They read the newspaper.
05:10They read the newspaper.
05:12So, of course,
05:14for them to stop bothering me,
05:16I became Chilean very quickly.
05:18Very quickly.
05:20But you also keep the Venezuelan like that.
05:22It's impressive, because it's cool,
05:24you have it in, the accent, everything.
05:26And now I have a partner
05:28who lives with me,
05:30who is Rosy,
05:32and she is with the children when I work,
05:34and she is Venezuelan.
05:36You came back.
05:38Arepita, breakfast, my love.
05:40I mean, Venezuelan,
05:42bachata, my house is Venezuela.
05:44It was a good story.
05:46Yes.
05:48And you settled well in Chile.
05:50Yes, yes, the first winters were horrible.
05:52But of course,
05:54I was a girl, I was a girl.
05:56I still didn't have
05:58the friendships, I think when you left.
06:00It was more.
06:02Yes, it's like someone
06:0414 years old, I think it's more difficult.
06:06If you want to change country, a son, I don't know.
06:08It's going to take more adaptation, but.
06:10Speaking of pre-adolescence, adolescence,
06:12Egoña.