Desus Nice says he's "heartbroken" Cam'ron and Jim Jones are ruining their Dipset legacy with their latest beef ... but he says it's all about the almighty dollar.
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00:00I gotta ask you, man, you're New York, so what goes through your mind with this Cam'ron
00:09and Jim Jones?
00:10First of all, it hurts all our hearts, we're all big Dipset fans, we all grew up with Dipset.
00:14Listen, you know the Diplomats, they ran New York for so long, we all grew up with Jimmy,
00:20Cam, Freaky, all of them, so to see them fight, it hurts your heart, but at the same time,
00:25it's two dudes from Harlem, that's New York, guys.
00:28Cam'ron's taking offense.
00:29He's saying he's not, but technically, you know Bronx been too drippy, so he had to take
00:36some of the Bronx drip and take it to Harlem, but it's sad, because they're boys, but when
00:40you have boys like that, you have your little scraps, your little fallouts, they gotta get
00:45on the phone and handle it, but I mean, it's entertaining right now, but it's also very
00:49on point for Harlem dudes, this is what you expect from Cam'ron, you don't expect Cam',
00:53Cam'ron's not a guy who's gonna pick up the phone and call you, he's gonna flame you,
00:56he just flamed Elliot Wilson this morning, so it's very on brand, hopefully we get some
01:01good music off of it.
01:02Now, now, Jim is releasing stuff first, but he's more active, you know, he releases stuff,
01:10you know, Cam is a little more like, you know, because Cam got other stuff going on, he got
01:13the podcast, he got the sex powder, or whatever, I don't use it, but I heard of it, the blue
01:21rhino or some shit, so you know, they're moving in different lanes, and Jimmy's more like
01:25still doing music, you still see him out on the corners doing videos, Cam's gone on
01:29to other things, he got shows, he got podcasts, so does that, is he vulnerable here, you know,
01:33the out of practice, that's what I'm wondering, is this about to be a battle, the thing is
01:36that you can never count Cam out, you can never count Cam out in a rap battle, like
01:40he, because he does it so effortlessly, like Cam could just hop on someone else's instrumental
01:45right now and flame anything, so, yeah, still see where it's gonna go, but, I mean, who
01:50you putting your money on, ooh, come on now, this is like, this is tough, you know, I love
01:55you, Jimmy, but, like, you know, Cam got too many layers, he got layers, but I rocked
02:01with you, Jimmy, Hustlers, P.O.M.E., great album, and the idea that, you know, they're
02:06just like, Jimmy couldn't rap, or he learned how to rap, well, he learned how to rap, he
02:09learned how to really rap, he could rap his ass off, he got nothing to be afraid of, he
02:14got nothing to be ashamed of, you know, the debut album was wild, like, stuff he did with
02:18Max B, oh, come on, bro, like, so, you know, it's just like a matter of, it's hip hop,
02:23you know, all the good groups break up, except for the locks, so, you know, we gotta see
02:27what happens.
02:28What do you think about this thing where he's pitting Mase against Cam, though, is this
02:32a strategy, because he was like, yo, Mase taught me how to rap, like, bro.
02:35It's weird, because, you know, Cam had beef with Mase for so many years, they squashed
02:39it, and now, Mase is there, he's going to that gym, but, see, again, that's, they're
02:44all boys, so, that's like, we're on the outside looking in, we don't know the inner politics
02:50of it, you know, we don't know the, like, we kind of know the history, but we don't
02:53know the history.
02:54But there's bags to be had.
02:55There's bags to be had, and, you know, like, and I figure at the end of the day, one thing
02:58about Harlem people is they love to fight, but at the end of the day, they always come
03:01back together, so, I think at the end of the day, they're probably, Cam and Jim gotta shoot
03:05the fair wind on 125th street in front of the fish market, you know.
03:08Well, you know how that, we've seen Jimmy stays in the gym, bro, like, he might have
03:12to.
03:13Jimmy stays in the gym, Cam is too pretty to be fighting us, he's too flexy, you know.
03:17So, if it goes that way, Jim, you got Jim, if it goes to wax, then it's Cam.
03:22I can't see Cam having a street fight at 2025, like, in fact, I don't think any of us should
03:26be having street fights, too, we go too old for that.