Would 1 Corinthians 5 also apply to those who call themselves 'family' while not acting as such?
1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
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1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
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00:00Hey everybody Stefan Molyneux so this was a question from Facebook that I
00:05didn't get to earlier thank you for your patience here we go here we go
00:08satellite radio y'all get hit with the boom boom. Word 1 Corinthians 5 also
00:15apply to those who call themselves quote family while not acting as such so 1
00:22Corinthians 5 I got this I got you it says it is reported commonly that there
00:30is fornication among you and such fornication as is not so much as named
00:36among the Gentiles that one should have his father's wife and ye are puffed up
00:42and have not rather mourned that he that hath done this deed might be taken away
00:46from among you for I verily as absent in body but present in spirit have judged
00:53already as though I were present concerning him that hath so done this
00:58deed in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ when ye are gathered together and
01:03my spirit with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ to deliver such and one
01:08unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved to the
01:13day of the Lord Jesus your glorying is not good know ye not that a little
01:21leaven leaveneth the whole lump purge out therefore the old leaven that ye may
01:29be a new lump as ye are unleavened for even Christ our Passover is sacrificed
01:35for us therefore let us keep the feast not with old leaven neither with the
01:42leaven of malice and wickedness but with the unleavened bread of sincerity
01:46and truth I wrote unto you an epistle not to company with fornicators yet not
01:53altogether with the fornicators of this world or with the covetous or
01:59extortioners or with idolaters for then must ye needs go out of the world but
02:09now I have written unto you not to keep company if any man that is called a
02:16brother be a fornicator or covetous or an idolater or a railer or a drunkard or
02:23extortioner with such and one know not to eat for what have I to do to judge
02:31them also that are without do not ye judge them that are within but them that
02:39are without God judges therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked
02:46person well that's quite a statement that is quite a statement now I don't
02:53think we need to go over this in detail other than to talk about what is meant
02:59with regards to unleavened bread right so let's talk about that and figure out
03:09what might be going on so bread not inflated by yeast or other leaveners so
03:19there's a bunch of breads you can prepare them without using rising agents
03:22like sodium bicarbonate or yeast the preparation of this non-leavened grain
03:27foods is all the way back to ancient times unleavened breads like roti tortilla
03:35and so on and it has religious significance so unleavened breads are
03:41important in Christianity in Judaism Jews and Christians consume unleavened
03:47breads during Passover and Eucharist such as Matzo as commanded there was
03:52Exodus 12 18 for the Torah Old Testament they were instructed quote seven days
03:57shall there be no leaven found in your houses for whosoever eateth that which
04:02is leavened even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel
04:06whether he is a stranger or born in the land so what does this mean so with the
04:14leavening it says no ye not that a little even leaveneth the whole lump
04:22purge out therefore the old leaven that ye may be a new lump as you are unleavened
04:28right so don't put the rising if you put a little bit of rising agent into the
04:31bread a little of the bicarbonate a little bit of yeast you put any of that
04:36in the bread it doesn't just raise a small bit right it raises the whole bit
04:42it raises it all a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump
04:49so an ingredient changes the entire dish a new ingredient changes the entire
04:55dish so the example that is given is obviously fairly fairly horrifying it
05:04says it is reported commonly that there is fornication among you and such
05:08fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles that one should have
05:13his father's wife his father's wife does that mean stepmother I assume that
05:20means stepmother since of course women died in childbirth in the ancient world
05:23and so remarriage was quite common and so we have stepmother and then he says
05:32and you're puffed up and if not rather mourned that he that hath done this deed
05:35might be taken away from among ye among you I'm not quite sure what that means
05:41have not run and have not rather mourned that he that have done this deed
05:45might be taken away from among you so taken away from among you this could
05:48refer to life after death that you get to go to heaven and he doesn't
05:54this is for I very for I verily is absent in body but present in spirit of
05:58judge already as though I was present concerning him that has so done this
06:01deed so the whole question of judgment in Christianity is really fascinating so
06:09God is a judge right God is a judge and you know the sort of traditional way of
06:14looking at life after death is that you get you go to St. Peter at the pearly
06:18gates and you look at the book of your life and you are judged so God is a
06:24judge now God of course judges with omniscience with perfect knowledge so
06:33what is Jesus talking about when he says judge not lest ye be judged or that
06:41there's this negative view of judgment well there is judgment and there is
06:49prejudice there is judgment beyond a reasonable doubt and then there is the
06:54rush to judgment the snap judgment and it would be the difference between if
07:00there is reports of a crime but without proof of a crime let's say some guy is
07:07supposed to have raped some woman and rather than go through a trial that
07:14person is hunted down and killed now in a trial where you have reasonable
07:21standards and rational standards of defense and proof in a trial there is
07:27judgment the judgment in trial is called a verdict and the jury rules you
07:32innocent or sorry the jury rules you guilty or not guilty you can't rule
07:36someone innocent now let's say that you go through a trial it is proven beyond
07:43reasonable doubt that let's just say Bob right so it is proof beyond reasonable
07:49doubt that Bob killed someone he's a murderer and he gets the death penalty
07:54let's say you're in the in the US right so he gets the death penalty and he's
08:01then killed so he is judged and then killed through process of law through
08:07process of trial with their defense and the ability to confront witnesses and
08:12cross-examine evidence and so on right a man is judged guilty of a crime and he
08:19is killed now that's really the same process or at least the same outlines of
08:24a process that a lynch mob goes through a lynch mob will judge someone guilty of
08:30a crime and kill him except without reasonable defense without
08:35cross-examining witnesses without any of the deliberations without a trial where
08:40his defense gets presented and so on right so in both situations let's say
08:46that the guy Bob who's supposed to have raped or killed someone is killed by 12
08:53people well that's judgment that results in killing Bob and it's the same
08:59thing with a trial the trial is a jury of 12 they convict him he goes after a
09:03suitable appeal process he goes to the chair or the injection site and he is
09:08killed so in both situations 12 people judge and the criminal is killed or the
09:16Bob is killed now these are two these are not the same situations although
09:22both involve judgment so the reason we have complex trials or at least we used
09:28to before everyone had to plea out after being bribed with half a decade of their
09:31own time back so the reason we have complex trials is getting to the truth
09:35is a difficult and complicated business all right getting to the truth it's
09:40difficult and complicated business that's why we have to have free speech
09:44getting to the truth is a difficult and complicated business so I mean a simple
09:51example would be people look like each other right there are twins right so you
09:58may have an eyewitness and right you might see someone you think is the
10:02person but it's someone who looks like them or it is in fact a twin or a
10:05doppelganger or something like that so lots of lots of complicated stuff so the
10:10rush to judgment is allowing emotions to overcloud reasonable doubt and to assume
10:18a certainty that you do not possess the rush to judgment the lynch mob is
10:22bearing false witness I know this guy did it I know what the punishment is and
10:28I'm gonna go and exact and execute that right away right that is a rush to
10:33judgment a lynch mob this happens all the time now it's a digital reputation
10:39lynching is quite common these days so when Jesus says obviously I don't want
10:45to speak for the big guy but when Jesus says judge not lest ye be judged he's
10:52saying don't rush to judgment don't convict without a trial don't lynch
11:00people because it could happen to you now why does he not run into all the
11:07moral arguments because he's trying to make something pithy and succinct to
11:11appeal to the mob don't convict on incomplete information don't rush to
11:18judgment don't act out brutal violent vengeance in a situation you are not
11:26particularly knowledgeable on you don't have the counter arguments you don't
11:31have the physical evidence you don't have the expert witnesses there's no
11:35cross-examination you don't know that you've gotten to the truth so saying I
11:39know Bob is guilty and let's kill Bob is creating a precedent that if you act
11:46in a judgment that way then that judgment could bite you as well you
11:52unleash this vigilante mob justice on the world at some point someone's gonna
11:57get pissed off at you or mistake you for someone else or want vengeance against
12:00you or want to punish you or attack you in some way and then what happens is you
12:06get killed you get tarred and feathered you get strung up while screaming your
12:10innocence so judge not lest ye be judged means don't join a lynch mob and string
12:19someone up otherwise there's a good chance you or someone you care about is
12:23going to end up on the end of that rope and instead of punishing someone for
12:29murder you might in fact be guilty of murder by killing an innocent man or
12:33woman and given that humanity goes through these regular paroxysms of moral
12:41outrage hysteria and attack right I mean to remember if you didn't get the COVID
12:49vaccine right do you remember how angry and hysterical and bizarre and
12:57aggressive people were towards you now they may envy you a little they but they
13:03don't hate you in the same way because that moral hysteria has passed by like
13:10a cloud right darkens the sky and then passes away and the Salem witch trials
13:17had a lot to do with young girls accusing others of witchcraft and there
13:24was this moral hysteria some genuine concerns are passed off as
13:30moral hysteria or they transform into moral hysteria and then there are some
13:36illegitimate concerns we're all going to die from COVID that are a kind of moral
13:41hysteria so for instance of course I talked about this in the truth about
13:44Joseph McCarthy but McCarthyism is passed off as false hysteria when in
13:49fact there were he was even more right than he knew with regards to
13:52infiltration of the US government in particular with regards to the
13:57disposition of Eastern Europe judge not lest you be judged means don't rush to
14:02judgment in the same way that you want the right to defend yourself against
14:06accusations you should give other people the right to defend themselves against
14:09accusations now why is it wrong to rush to judgment but it's good for God to
14:15judge because God is in possession of perfect information he knows everything
14:19I mean it's not a very long trial if there's a confession three eyewitnesses
14:24video camera blood on the defendant's clothing his handprints on the gun right
14:29I mean it's not much of a trial then that's obviously proof beyond reasonable
14:32doubt just in the evidence presented so God is in possession of perfect
14:38knowledge therefore God can judge. Now human knowledge can approach
14:45the divine but never of course encompass the divine so
14:52God knows that two and two make four and that is a certainty human beings know
14:58that two and two make four and that is a certainty the closer we get to absolute
15:06truth and the more we absorb and encompass absolute universal truth the
15:10closer we are to the mind of God the inverse square law laws of thermodynamics
15:16gases expand when heated these are all axioms of perfect universal knowledge
15:23knowledge right objects accelerate to earth at 9.8 meters per second per
15:28second but there's wind resistance right so not perfect manifestation not perfect
15:33empiricism because it's always going to slightly vary if your odometer no your
15:38speedometer if your speedometer says you're going 45 miles an hour you're
15:43going around 45 miles an hour it's not exact right but in the concept we
15:50approximate the certainty of God or we actually don't approximate it we achieve
15:54the certainty of God God knows for certain that two and two make four and
15:59the more of our mind we can transform into universal absolutes the closer we
16:04come to the mind of God now the mind of God encompasses empirical absolutism
16:12that we cannot achieve due to imprecision in measurements so to take a
16:17silly example if you are going 45 miles an hour you say I'm going 45 miles an
16:23hour well the mind of God would know exactly how fast you're going and it
16:27would know it in precision down to the last detail in every microscopic
16:33infinitely small micro slice of milliseconds so we have to say 45 miles
16:40an hour and the empiricism is not perfect to the measurement but neither
16:44is it unrelated so you might be going 45.01 or 44.99 miles an hour but you're
16:53not going 20 and you're not going a thousand miles an hour so in the
16:57concepts in the conceptions we achieve parity with the mind of God and this is
17:04not vanity this is submission to absolutes there is no such thing as a
17:09square circle is as known to God as it is to man the fact that gravity causes
17:19mass to be attracted to mass when we understand that and we have a definition
17:24of it then we have merged with the universal now I would say of course not
17:31being a theologian I would say that we have taken our mortal minds and merged
17:37them with universality and eternity two and two make four is true everywhere
17:43across the universe at all times no matter what no matter what so we join
17:51through our universal conceptions we join in eternity and universality and
17:56this is what is meant by the soul the soul is the part of our mind that
18:00overlaps with the universals and thus partakes of eternity I have an idea in
18:05my mind that two and two make four it was true before I was born it remains
18:11true when I'm sleeping it remains true for an eternity after I'm dead and
18:17therefore the part of my mind that merges and accepts and absorbs and
18:23reproduces universals is the part of my mind that partakes of eternity it is
18:30eternal which is why I focus on as many abstract truths and universals as
18:35humanly possible so that in an analogous fashion we can merge with the mind of
18:42God now when it comes to justice we're not dealing with definitions we're
18:46dealing with empiricism and empiricism is faulty due to the limitations of our
18:49senses and the processing speed of our brains and so on so if you've ever seen
18:56one of those cars with a digital speedometer that's constantly changing
19:00like how fast am I going uh it's changing every half a second or
19:05whatever the refresh is it's changing a lot right what are the RPMs I don't know
19:09why I need to know that but apparently I do so nobody is going to say based upon
19:15biblical teachings judge not lest ye be judged that a math teacher cannot mark a
19:21math test correct or false but the rush to judgment the rush to
19:27punish based upon vanity and vengeance is demonic judge not lest ye be judged
19:33means lynch not lest ye be lynched but the closer we get to greater knowledge
19:39the closer we get to God who is omniscient clearly right if you have an
19:44expert sprinter who's teaching you how to sprint the faster you get the closer
19:47you get to the speed of the expert sprinter knowledge transfer brings you
19:51closer to your teacher and the knowledge transfer of infinity and eternity and
19:57absolute truth from God to man is the purpose of philosophy at least to gain
20:03access to and to inhabit universals and thus live forever at least in the minds
20:10of others though not in your own mind since I will die in decay so this is not
20:18shockingly new is it I mean there were a lot of many and still are many early
20:23scientists and current scientists believe that in studying the universe
20:26they are studying the mind of God in other words by gaining absolute and
20:30universal principles they are merging with the localized omniscience of God
20:36omniscience can be true in specific statements right in that I know with zero
20:42doubt whatsoever that two and two make four everywhere at all times and has
20:46throughout eternity and the fact that two and two make four absolutely and
20:52universally is exactly why there's been enough stability in matter to develop
20:56these brains that we have so judge not lest ye be judged means do not rush to
21:03judgment do not join the lynch mob do not think someone is bad just because
21:08someone else says that they're bad do not bear false witness find out the
21:11facts and through finding out the facts you get closer to the mind of God God
21:16can judge because he's in possession of all the facts a lynch mob cannot judge
21:19because they're in possession of very few of the facts a juror or a jury that
21:25he has considered evidence from both parties over many weeks is close enough
21:32to the facts to be able to judge no rush to judgment don't lie don't bear
21:37false witness don't claim to be in possession of knowledge that you don't
21:39have yeah Bob did something terrible let's get him and you just ride up like
21:43you're not in possession of knowledge you don't know and therefore what you do
21:47is murder however if you're on the jury you've got a month-long trial everybody
21:51gets to present their sides cross-examine witnesses get experts
21:54evidence at that point you have enough knowledge you still don't have the
21:59perfect knowledge that God has because these are not principles but empirical
22:02facts but you have infinitely well you have near near infinitely more knowledge
22:08than the lynch mob so with regards to judgment do not rush to judgment that is
22:16a sin do not lie bear false witness and claim to have knowledge that you don't
22:19have therefore don't rush to judge don't join a lynch mob don't join a gossip
22:24mob don't repeat things that you can't verify that are negative to other people
22:28so on right so that is don't judge so it says here for I verily as absent in
22:37body but present in spirit have judged already as though I were present
22:40concerning him that has so done this deed so what this means is
22:46Josh already as though I were present so if someone beds his father's wife his
22:54stepmother he's saying no no I'm judging like I I saw it like I was there I have
22:59direct empirical evidence evidence of my senses I have certainty I saw this guy
23:06bed his stepmother absent in body but present in spirit judge already as though
23:13I were present right so that is having enough knowledge to be able to judge so
23:20in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ when you are gathered together and my
23:22spirit the power of the Lord Jesus Christ to deliver such a one under Satan
23:25for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved in the day of
23:29the Lord Jesus your glory is not good no you not that little even even if the
23:36whole lump purge out therefore the old even that you may be a new lump as you
23:42are unleavened for even Christ our Passover a sacrifice for us so to
23:50deliver such an one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit
23:54may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus this could be like a purge someone
23:59drive them out from your community I'm not sure if this refers to hurting them
24:04torturing them imprisoning them or killing them but there's something to do
24:08with modification of the flesh that it is in the same way that if you had a
24:14terminally infected finger that was going to kill you you'd cut off the
24:16finger in order to save your body that if harm to the flesh saves the soul well
24:24it is the flesh that yearns for vengeance it is the flesh that is full
24:27of conformity and passion and all of that so if you wish to achieve virtue
24:34you have to harm the passions yeah of course of course if you wish to achieve
24:40virtue you have to act against the passions if virtue was the same as the
24:44passions we would be animals we wouldn't have the ability to merge with the
24:49divine through the concepts through the ideas for the absolutes through the
24:54universals so the flesh the passions the animal part of us which is a
24:59necessary and healthy and wonderful part of us but should not be in charge it
25:04should not be in charge I mean thinking with the penis is sort of a well-known
25:07trope among men right having a penis is great using the penis is great sex is
25:13great but you don't want to be ruled by the penis in the same way that we
25:17generally have a preference to overeat particularly yeah we have it we have a
25:23tendency to overeat because throughout our evolution food was often uncertain
25:28didn't know if the hunt was going to work I didn't know if there'd be animals
25:32in the traps right and so because food was uncertain we have a tendency to wish
25:37to overeat but now that food is ever plentiful and very tasty and often
25:43engineered for taste we have to deny the flesh otherwise we get fat having a
25:50little bit of extra food like people say well we couldn't really store food
25:55until we had fridges or whatever or freezers but that's not true of course
25:59we store food in our fat cells our fridges were our asses so we have a
26:06tendency to overeat our body wants to overeat I personally I never feel full I
26:11never feel full I mean very rarely like once or twice a year I'll go to a buffet
26:16and just out of curiosity I'll just eat waiting to feel full I have to stop
26:20I just don't feel full so I never feel full I can always eat more and that's
26:26just my body saying well where your food is uncertain and we'd better we'd really
26:30better hang on to extra calories because if we have to go on a long hunt because
26:36the the herd has moved we better have enough energy for that like the really
26:40skinny guys couldn't go on a long hunt whereas the guys who are packing less
26:44extra weight could do that because they could eat themselves as they hunted so
26:49longevity requires the mortification of the flesh we have to say no we have to
26:55say no we have to say no so to save the soul we have to oppose the flesh that
27:01makes sense so therefore let us keep the feast not with old leaven neither with
27:08the leaves of malice and wickedness but with the unleavened bread of sincerity
27:12and truth so the leaven of malice and wickedness that is the mob malice and
27:18wickedness get him get him boys string him up right so if you mix malice and
27:25wickedness into your judgment it corrupts your whole judgment right as
27:29you're saying you can't just leaven up a part of the bread it spreads throughout
27:33the whole bread but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth sincerity
27:37is I want to know the truth not I hate that guy let's get him right that's
27:42demonic and that's how Satan does his work is to provoke us to a hatred this
27:48is why PR tends to work so well and I guess why Geproni and lively assuming
27:54each other so let us keep the feast not with old leaven neither with the leaven
28:00of malice and wickedness but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth
28:04so you can only get to the truth if you're sincere about finding the truth
28:09sincere sincere means without prejudging without prejudice or with as little as
28:14possible so I believe that the immoral is the impractical so when I hear
28:20universal basic income which I know is immoral because it's usually government
28:24force if I hear about universal basic income I have a prejudice that it is
28:30going to have negative outcomes right it's not going to be that oh well you
28:35know we gave these people their their UBI the universal basic income and you
28:42know one of them produced beautiful play the other one composed a massively
28:45wonderful orchestra the other one started a multi-million dollar company
28:48and so on right but I have to be sincere at least in the outcomes and say okay
28:55what are the actual facts that come out of these studies the morals don't change
28:58because it's still the initiation of force through the state to fund UBI so
29:02that doesn't change but the outcomes if the outcomes are incredibly positive
29:07then I have to revisit the question about the moral is the practical so but
29:14I have to be sincere sincere means when I say I want the truth I'm not lying
29:19right that's what sincere means as opposed to confirmation bias and just
29:25reading people who agree with you and all of that kind of trash right that
29:29goes on in the world you know quite regularly right so that's what truth and
29:36sincerity mean you can't get to the truth without being sincere about
29:39wanting the truth so I wrote to you in an epistle not to company with
29:44fornicators fornicators are not people who have sex at all right because a
29:49husband and wife are not fornicators fornicators are those who harm children
29:57through sexual activity when you think about it right when you think about it
30:02so a man who's married who has children who has an affair who has a sidechick or
30:09a mistress he is harming children through his sexual activity his sexual
30:14activity with his wife doesn't harm his children because it cements the husband
30:18wife bond but if he fornicates has sex outside of marriage then he is harming
30:25his marriage he's harming his children he's harming their mental stability
30:29their emotional happiness their pair bonding their trust their happiness as a
30:34whole their economic prospects because it's very expensive to separate in to
30:39two families and two dwellings and so on so that's fornication that harms
30:43children people who have sex outside of wedlock when of course preventing
30:48pregnancy was pretty tough so people who have sex outside of wedlock are
30:53producing families of single mothers which is harmful and destructive to
30:59children and it tends to spread right so in the past a single mother would very
31:03often end up taking up prostitution prostitution would also spread
31:08fornication to other people right the OnlyFans sort of thing where there's a
31:14lot of married men who watch OnlyFans right so fornication is sexual activity
31:20in particular that harms children and of course it also spreads disease and of
31:27course most sexually transmitted disease diseases were not curable in the past
31:33right and syphilis was particularly nasty it drove you mad over time there's a
31:37theory but that's what happened to Nietzsche right so fornicators are those
31:41whose sexual activity harms children harm society as spreads disease and
31:48misery and loss and tragedy and sorrow and all of that attempts people with
31:53despair which makes them like the sadder you make people the more they hunger for
31:58artificial highs so one of the ways you drive addiction is to make people sad
32:02and one of the ways you make people sad is through fornication so yet not all
32:06together with the fornicators of this world right so don't be together with
32:10the fornicators or with the covetous or extortionist or with the idolaters for
32:17then must you need to go out of the world out of the social world but now I
32:22have written to you not to keep company if any man that is called a brother be a
32:28fornicator now be a not is suspected to not as accused of not but is right that
32:33you have knowledge not a lynch mob but a trial a fornicator or covetous or an
32:41idolater or a railer or a drunkard or an extortioner with such a one do not eat
32:49do not break bread with such one and of course I've talked to people about this
32:53like why would you break bread with people who've relentlessly abused you
32:57now let me just have a quick look here a railer isn't to be railed slang for
33:03sexuality or I think of a pretty nerdy railgun all right what does this mean
33:09Bible? Railer. What mean? What is a railer? Let us find out. A railer is used to
33:19describe someone who scoffs insults censures or approaches with appropriate
33:22language okay abusive or insulting language reviler so this is a verbal
33:30abuser okay a rail against people I guess right so fornicator harms children
33:34covetous the greed for the unearned the greed for the unearned is a marker of
33:40somebody who wants happiness without virtue love without virtue income
33:43without labor or charity they want a one-sided thing so covetous means that
33:48you desire the unearned which is the root of all evil or an idolater this is
33:53people who put people above virtue idolatry put people anybody who puts a
34:01person above virtue so like the one-eyedest thing the stalker right the
34:06stalker is putting his lust or hunger for the person above a virtue the thief
34:11is putting the lust for what he wants above virtue or a drunkard or an
34:18extortioner or such a one not to eat for what have I to do to judge them also
34:23that are without do not ye judge them that are within but them that are
34:29without God judgeth therefore put away from among yourself that wicked person
34:32for what have I to do to judge them also that are without do not ye judge them
34:38that are within now that seems odd and I don't want to start projecting as I'm
34:44not sure exactly what this language refers to them judge them that are
34:51within what does that mean that are within does that mean inside you judge
34:59them inside based upon their actions outside okay so the responsibility of
35:05judging those Oh within the church community okay okay so this is a it is
35:10not a responsibility of the speaker to judge those who are outside the church
35:12but judge those within the church community I see okay that makes sense
35:17but those who are outside God judges therefore put away from among yourselves
35:21the wicked person yes okay got it so what if I to do to judge them that are
35:26without outside the church do not you judge them that are within but let them
35:30who are without outside the church that God judged them okay that's that's fair
35:34so and I have said this of course as well that people are not responsible for
35:41obeying moral laws that they have never heard of right they're not we don't
35:46judge the ancient world for accepting slavery because the entire world in the
35:53ancient world accepted slavery and there was virtually no not even a hint of a
35:56thought that we wouldn't do that right so that is not to be judged right and in
36:03the same way I've said this from the very beginning of the show we don't
36:05judge a doctor in the 18th century for not prescribing antibiotics because they
36:09didn't exist and morality is a form of technology all right horror movies used
36:13to be a little bit easier because there were no cell phones and the invention of
36:17cell phones has made you know you you go for help I'll follow the bloody
36:20footprints kind of stupid right just call for help you have to find a way
36:24around this as a sort of horror horror goes so if people have not heard of the
36:30law they are not subject to the law now this of course is changed where
36:35ignorance of the law is no excuse so ignorance of the law is no excuse and
36:41there's an old Steve Martin thing how much trouble to how much how many times
36:44we get ourselves in trouble because we don't say I forgot I forgot armed
36:48robbery was illegal it's pretty funny bit so good semi philosophical absurdist
36:54humor from the Steve Martin line of tinnitus induced comedy so ignorance of
37:01the law is no excuse has to be a rule because otherwise everyone would claim
37:04that they were ignorant of the law and therefore not bound by it but of course
37:08ignorance of the law is no excuse was a way of approaching the law when the law
37:14was simple was common law right don't defraud don't initiate the use of force
37:20right respect property it's pretty hard to say you don't right don't know that
37:28can't understand that right so if you want to be functional within society you
37:33have to at least accept that you're able to understand these rules otherwise
37:36if you can't understand these rules you wouldn't be functional within society
37:39put in some home for safekeeping or protection so sure I understand that
37:45people have to accept the rules or at least understand the rules before they
37:50are responsible for following them which is why one of the things that I bring
37:53about in my colon shows is to question somebody who was like an adult who's
37:59abused by his parents in the past and to say have a conversation with your
38:04parents about it and there's lots of reasons for that lack of fear growth
38:08beyond indicating to your unconscious that you're beyond your parents power
38:11honesty directness facing your fears that kind of stuff right but one of the
38:17most important reasons for having conversations people who've abused you
38:20in the past is because you get to see the excuses they make for their bad
38:28behavior that they never would have accepted in you right you get to see the
38:34excuses that they make for their bad behavior right you say well we did the
38:38best we could with the knowledge we had well and this is all in peaceful
38:42parenting peaceful parenting calm we did the best we could but the knowledge we
38:45had well that was never enough for you as a kid right if you failed some exam
38:51right and you said why I did the best I could with the knowledge they had you
38:55say well why don't you study right it's the same thing with parenting right so
38:58it's a way of getting people away from imagining that the parents are doing
39:03anything universal at all and they're just making up excuses in the moment to
39:07get away with the misuse of power so I appreciate that if you have any other
39:12Bible verses this is really kicking back to my early life as an altar boy so if
39:20you have any other Bible verses you would like me to check out you can email
39:23them to me email them to me you can email host at freedom and calm host if
39:30you would like to help out the show I would super-duper appreciate it free
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39:37opportunity to speak philosophy and I guess in this case semi theology with
39:40the world lots of love up here talk to you soon bye