Love and War Episode 5
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00:07Oh, she's back.
00:08Nice to see you, Jocelyn.
00:09Yes.
00:10I know I don't like you either.
00:11I'm glad you're okay, though.
00:12I heard about what happened.
00:13Yeah, I'm glad you got makeup over that eye.
00:14You mean a lot of me, though.
00:15I know.
00:16I know.
00:17But I choose to stay in my natural look.
00:18You're not natural.
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02:25How long you guys been together?
02:26Oh, 10 years.
02:2710 years?
02:28Yeah, we've been together for 10 years.
02:29Y'all don't even look...
02:30How old are y'all?
02:31I'm 22, he's 23.
02:32We met when we were kids.
02:33So y'all started working at 12?
02:34No, but we were like...
02:35We liked each other and we became boyfriend and girlfriend.
02:36Obviously, that came down the line when we were old enough to do that.
02:37Okay.
02:38Yeah.
02:39I'm like, y'all...
02:40No, I respect myself and obviously he respects me.
02:41I was like, you don't, but I was just like, damn, that's kind of 10 years.
02:42You know, you have crushes in school.
02:43Yeah.
02:44I'm like, you don't.
02:45I'm like, you don't.
02:46That was my crush.
02:47So you met in the what, seventh, eighth grade?
02:48Yeah.
02:49Same school?
02:50Yeah.
02:51Same neighborhood?
02:52Mm-hmm.
02:53And y'all just been thick as thieves since?
02:54Yeah.
02:55Okay, all right.
02:56So we had a one-on-one with Tasha K, and I think it went pretty well.
03:00Name three things, Crystal, that you would like to see be in the future.
03:06I would like to see...
03:07I would like to see...
03:08I would like to see...
03:09I would like to see...
03:10I would like to see...
03:11I would like to see...
03:12I would like to see...
03:13I would like to see...
03:14I would like to see...
03:15I would like to see B.B. change while being in the house.
03:19Let's see.
03:20Number one, to listen a little bit more.
03:25Okay.
03:26Number two, to lay off a little bit on the liquor.
03:31Okay.
03:32Number three, to be...
03:35I wanna...
03:37Like, he's very...
03:38Like, he has social anxiety.
03:39So I wanna see him be more going, too.
03:43Could it be his personality?
03:44personality?
03:44Yeah, it is.
03:45No, no, no, it's not.
03:46I'm very, I just gotta guard up sometimes,
03:49you know what I'm saying?
03:50I'm very social, but like, you know what I'm saying?
03:53Okay.
03:54Like, I'm cool.
03:56So how do you feel about her saying
03:57that she drink too much?
03:59Well, I don't feel like I drink too much.
04:01You don't think you drink a lot?
04:03It seems like the way she's saying it is like,
04:05I'm an alcoholic, I'm not, like.
04:07How many drinks a day does B.B. have?
04:10No, it's just he's lightweight.
04:12That's the thing.
04:12It's not about how many drinks,
04:13it's like he's a little bit lightweight
04:15and he does drink.
04:16So what's lightweight?
04:17How lightweight are we talking?
04:18Like, he drinks like a tall can or two
04:20and it's like he's already.
04:22Two beers?
04:23No, I'm not an alcoholic, man.
04:25Next.
04:28You're laughing.
04:30No, I'm just, it's because it's funny.
04:33But these are serious concerns.
04:34I do drink, but like, it's not like I'm.
04:36What you drinking now?
04:39It's so Hennessy.
04:41Why the fuck you do this to me?
04:44I'm a motherfucking alcoholic, man, I'm kidding.
04:46She got water, you got.
04:47I guess, I guess.
04:49How many drinks have you had today?
04:51A few.
04:53I had a few drinks.
04:54It's like three o'clock right now, four?
04:56Okay.
04:57And so what about B.B.'s mood changes
05:00that like concerns you?
05:01Like, I know you said moody,
05:02but like, how moody are we talking?
05:05Oh, no, he just be like,
05:07when he's drunk, he be like,
05:08he just be like, catching a little bit of attitude
05:11and you know, just a little bit of attitude.
05:13Nothing too serious.
05:14No, no, no.
05:15Just like attitude, like, oh, I want to be left alone.
05:18I want to, you know, chill by myself, you know?
05:21He just be wanting to be in his own world.
05:22That hurts you?
05:24It does hurt my feelings a little bit.
05:25Like, you know, just a little bit.
05:28It's nothing like serious, but.
05:29That is very serious.
05:31I'm not, and here's the thing.
05:33I'm not here to, you know,
05:36I'm not, and here's the thing.
05:37I'm not here to, cause you're getting irritated.
05:40I get it.
05:41Like, she's never told me that, you know what I'm saying?
05:43So I never knew she felt that way.
05:45Have you ever, you've never told him?
05:47Not really.
05:47Cause it's not like nothing, like,
05:49like it's nothing like bad, bad,
05:52but it does like sometimes get a little bit, yeah.
05:56What are three things that you would like
05:58to see Crystal change?
06:00For her to stay off the phone all the time.
06:02You know what I'm saying?
06:03What do you mean on the phone?
06:04Talking to people also?
06:06And she be giving attitude too, so I don't understand.
06:09I do, I do.
06:09Okay.
06:10You both do.
06:11What else would you like to see her change?
06:12To understand that I need to be making money.
06:14You know what I'm saying?
06:16What you mean?
06:17Like, I make money so we can eat.
06:20You know what I mean?
06:21And she is like, oh, like, to me.
06:25Like, let's go on a date or something.
06:26I understand that, you know what I'm saying?
06:28Okay.
06:29Like, have a date for us, basically.
06:31Okay.
06:32And I try my hardest to do that, you know what I'm saying?
06:34Like, get her everything she wants, you know what I mean?
06:37But she's right.
06:38Maybe I do need to give her a little more time.
06:40I'm always out making money, you know?
06:41Like, it's just, I don't know.
06:44What do you do for a living?
06:45I make money.
06:46Okay.
06:49So you feel like you guys need
06:51a little bit more personal time?
06:53Like?
06:54Yeah.
06:55I feel like this show is the most personal time we've got.
06:58Oh, wow.
06:58Damn!
06:59Damn!
07:00Are you serious?
07:01Damn!
07:02You serious?
07:03I mean, that's what we're here for, you know?
07:07Because you guys,
07:08people tend to get comfortable in relationships.
07:10I've been married almost 20 years, you know?
07:12We got two kids together.
07:14You were.
07:15You know?
07:16You can't just be,
07:17it can't be like Groundhog's Day every day, right?
07:20And you guys both have to try.
07:22I'll give an example.
07:23My husband and I, when we first met,
07:26and we still do it now, Mondays is our day.
07:28No matter what we're doing, we go out every Monday.
07:31I like that.
07:33So you have to, as couples, because life's.
07:36Right.
07:37Right?
07:38Because I'm a college kid,
07:39and of course you gotta make money, so.
07:40So you're going to school?
07:41Yeah.
07:42What are you going to school for?
07:43I'm going to be an FBI agent.
07:44Oh, well, damn.
07:46And you make money.
07:47Yeah.
07:48Who's going to see how that work out?
07:49Okay?
07:50She's going to get me out of trouble.
07:53Where you going to look?
07:55I think I really like the advice she gave,
07:57that her and her husband have one-on-ones on Mondays.
08:00They literally have one day full for them every week.
08:04And I really think that's a great idea.
08:06And I think we should start doing that as well.
08:08Keep your head on a swivel, Bibi.
08:10Okay?
08:11Because what she's telling you
08:13is what women tell men all the time.
08:14And then when you don't listen,
08:16it's not like we go out seeking it.
08:19But if she finds herself in a conversation
08:22with a man and he's feeding that need,
08:24it's like when you're hungry.
08:26Well, if somebody tries it and it helps,
08:28then it's going to be a problem.
08:29That's it.
08:31When is marriage going to come?
08:34Soon.
08:35How soon?
08:37I'm trying to get it straight first, like I said.
08:41And then, it's soon.
08:43Soon, soon, soon.
08:45You trust him?
08:46Yeah.
08:48I mean, he's been here with me.
08:50Do you trust him?
08:51I do.
08:52It's like we've always had each other all our life.
08:54Literally.
08:55Like we was homeless together.
08:56Like we came up together.
08:59You know what I'm saying?
09:00So, like, it's hard to break that.
09:03You know what I mean?
09:04Mm-hmm.
09:05Okay.
09:06Thank y'all.
09:08I hope that you get a lot out of this experience
09:11being here, okay?
09:12And just try it.
09:13This night, tonight, I'm not going to drink.
09:14It's just going to be me and you.
09:17And vice versa, okay?
09:18Come on.
09:20Okay?
09:21Bye.
09:23Nice to meet you.
09:24Crystal opened up to things
09:26I didn't even know about.
09:27And I'm glad that I got to hear that.
09:31Y'all, let me talk a little bit.
09:32I'm just going to make that real quick.
09:35Where's your tea?
09:36Okay.
09:37Y'all, bitch, where's your tea?
09:38You was out there drinking,
09:39and you went out.
09:40No.
09:41I'm a little red.
09:42No.
09:43So, Mo, let me tell you something.
09:44I don't know.
09:45You and Z Scott,
09:46you don't even go with Z Scott around.
09:48Yeah, we don't.
09:48You don't like her.
09:49Me and Z Scott is together.
09:50Do you like her?
09:52Yeah, we love her.
09:52Okay, so I should have eaten up her booty,
09:54and I was just gagging.
09:56What's that got to do with it?
09:57I don't know.
09:58Because that's how me and her.
10:00What you guys doing?
10:01I'm just saying.
10:02I don't know.
10:03I'm trying to figure it out.
10:04Joyce involved herself,
10:06and said whatever she said,
10:09and that caused Z Scott to say something bad to her,
10:12and that fell over into the next morning.
10:14I'm confused, y'all, about this.
10:16I'm confused,
10:17because why Ms. Rose had eyes is shining in me.
10:21Like, I'm confused, you know what I'm saying?
10:23Okay, okay.
10:24And well, you know, me and you are cool,
10:26so like, it's just like-
10:28That's why y'all both gotta have a common respect
10:31for each other,
10:32because Cassie's my brother,
10:34and you're Cassie's date,
10:35and that's my friend,
10:37and we're all here together.
10:39You know what I'm saying?
10:40Okay, so she shouldn't just be starting,
10:43like, no, she came out the room talking about all this.
10:44No.
10:45Yeah, somebody wants you.
10:46She said somebody wants you,
10:47so I'm like, so who want me then?
10:49The messiest in the house
10:50is definitely D. Scott, 110%.
10:54He can't stop himself from being messy.
10:56If he tried, he's the messiest in the house.
10:59Out of respect for my lover,
11:00I apologized to Joyce,
11:01but me apologizing wasn't enough.
11:03And Joyce proceeded to tell me,
11:05tell security to get this little bitch out of my room.
11:08So I felt like, you know, well, I apologize,
11:10so what more do you want from me?
11:12So me, I threw my drink in her face
11:14and told her to shut the fuck up.
11:15Joyce was looking at her,
11:16she's like, get the hell something to drink.
11:17What the fuck?
11:18And I need a refill.
11:19Thank you, baby.
11:20You're welcome.
11:21Bitch, holla at me a little, bitch.
11:22Bitch, you got me fucked up.
11:24Man, it feels good out here.
11:25I don't agree with shit like this.
11:27And I don't agree with shit like this.
11:28Why are you making him apologize?
11:28Because it's wrong?
11:29No.
11:30He had no business going out, walking out, and-
11:31She tried to bite him, she caught him out.
11:33He walked out on me,
11:34and I was like, what the fuck?
11:35And I was like, what the fuck?
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13:37No.
13:38He wasn't doing nothing.
13:39He wasn't doing nothing.
13:41He's not doing anything.
13:42He's not doing anything.
13:44Because she was popping it, Kashia.
13:46OK.
13:46Calling me a little piece of shit.
13:49He's going to apologize.
13:50And like I said, and I apologize, Kashia.
13:53When I first got in here.
13:54So you don't think I should?
13:55I'm going to throw a drink back on you.
13:56No.
13:57No.
13:57No.
13:58It's over.
13:59It's over.
14:00Kashia.
14:01Get up.
14:01I can't get up.
14:03Kashia.
14:04I can't get up.
14:05He splashed his drink and I threw mine right back
14:07at him, and for some reason, he hit me.
14:09Kashia.
14:10Y'all dumb as fuck.
14:11Right.
14:12Like, y'all really stupid as fuck.
14:14Because y'all just sat there, and I saw y'all do nothing.
14:16Y'all do nothing.
14:17Bro, these guys.
14:18I said, get the fuck up, man.
14:19That's impossible.
14:20I'm like, y'all not that fucking stupid.
14:23Girl, change your clothes.
14:26We're going to pop it off while I'm going home.
14:34The fuck?
14:34That shit is annoying.
14:35I'm gone.
14:37Stop.
14:38Ivory.
14:38Ivory.
14:39Go.
14:40You're up next, so just kill.
14:41Lynn just told them to stop letting him do weird shit,
14:43and they just walked this nigga back here
14:45and let him fire on him while he's sitting down.
14:46Who let who?
14:47Who did what?
14:48Security just walked motherfucking big-ass
14:50Patsy back there, nigga, and just
14:51let him fire on D. Scott.
14:56No.
14:57Relax.
14:57Boy, get the fuck out of my face before I slap you.
15:01Where are you going?
15:02Fuck Kashia.
15:02He's in his room right here.
15:03OK, tell him, come on.
15:06D. Scott thought he was Popeye or something.
15:08He trunked the umpies and motherfucking
15:10thought he was getting big and bold.
15:14Come on.
15:15Come on.
15:15Come on.
15:16Come on.
15:17Come on.
15:18Come on.
15:19Get your butt down.
15:20Get your butt down.
15:21Get your butt down.
15:26Bitch.
15:27Bitch.
15:28Bitch.
15:29Bitch.
15:29Bitch.
15:30Bitch.
15:31Bitch.
15:35Hey, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, let me go back up.
15:39Let me go back up, let me go back up.
15:42Let me go back up, let me go back up.
15:45I'm on the street, I'm on the block.
15:48I'm on the street, I'm on the block.
15:51Shut the door, cut the cameras.
15:54What he did, all he did was messy.
15:56He wouldn't have found a way to step in to her.
15:59That was so messy, he didn't do a drink on her.
16:01I'm not into that.
16:02Yes, I'm not, you know I'm not into that.
16:04Come on, don't do all that.
16:06OK, I'll let y'all have a conversation with him.
16:08You already had that.
16:10All righty, you're sweating.
16:12What the hell happened?
16:15A little bit of this, a little bit of that.
16:17Woody, have a seat.
16:22Is y'all getting catchy?
16:23Can you sit right here?
16:25Yeah, sit right here, you don't want to sit by her?
16:27Can we mix up the pillows a little bit?
16:29You just said the sheets is on the floor.
16:31You fucked with him.
16:33I didn't, and he just showed me his true colors.
16:34So I don't fuck with him.
16:35In 10 minutes?
16:36In 10 minutes.
16:37What happened?
16:38Because you guys were just, the one on one
16:40seems like it looked great.
16:41You guys were on the same page.
16:44And y'all were just fighting.
16:45I wasn't fighting, he was fighting.
16:47So.
16:49What happened?
16:50Let me just, let me just throw this out there.
16:51We had a, we had a long talk before.
16:53I mean, we had a talk before we came in and right and wrong.
16:55That he knows my aesthetic.
16:56You know the type of nigga that I am.
16:58I'm never going to let nobody do anything to him
17:00or disrespect him.
17:01What he chose to do outside, he walked out of his room,
17:04correct me if I'm wrong, he walked out of his room
17:06and said, I want to be messy.
17:08He walked past that girl and said,
17:09whatever you felt like you needed to say to her
17:11in that moment, which caused.
17:13I don't know what we're talking about.
17:14We're talking about a choice.
17:15Yeah, no, but they're going to apologize to you, Jack.
17:18OK.
17:18Let me move on.
17:19Yes, he's cool.
17:20OK, because I really, I was not, that wasn't intentional.
17:23I wasn't trying to hit you.
17:24It was a reflex, no shade.
17:26You had stood up when you had threw the drink.
17:27So it was like, I didn't know if you
17:29was going to hit me or what.
17:30So it was a reflex.
17:31So I didn't really want to hit you.
17:33I never had no intentions on fighting you.
17:35And I didn't even want to get into it with you.
17:36When you had did what you did with Joseline,
17:38I just wanted you to, yeah, you did.
17:40And I appreciated that you said that you
17:42were going to apologize, but no shade.
17:43I felt like it was only fair that you allowed her to do
17:45the same thing that you did to her.
17:46So you did it, and then you punched me.
17:48So you don't feel like it?
17:49No.
17:50No.
17:51Yes, you are.
17:52I'm not going to do it.
17:52It's over.
17:53Get off me.
17:54Get up.
17:55I can't get up.
17:59Well, no, I said I was finna do it,
18:01and you beat me to the punch, and we kind of threw it
18:03together.
18:04At the same time.
18:04Right.
18:05So when you stood up, when you threw it, it was.
18:07Because I said I wasn't going to do it.
18:08No, but you stood up like so.
18:09I didn't know if you was going to hit me or what.
18:11I was supposed to just sit there while you
18:11threw a drink at my face?
18:13You threw one at mine, and I sat there.
18:14OK, but like, you could have let her
18:15came and do that herself.
18:16What made you feel like you didn't have to?
18:17I mean, you told me you wasn't going to allow her to do it.
18:19I did tell you she could come.
18:21I apologized to her.
18:22No, when I said you should let her throw a drink on you,
18:29I don't think that was crazy.
18:30I feel like that was crazy.
18:31I don't think that's crazy.
18:32The apology would have did it, and I
18:33didn't know that you was going to come out there and do that.
18:34I told you, y'all could have talked about it,
18:36and yes, you was wrong for what you still went and said
18:39to her and what you did to her.
18:40Still, that was wrong.
18:41All I did was pass the message.
18:42But what made you go and say something like that?
18:44I just passed the message.
18:45She snuck, you know, a few hours earlier.
18:47But don't be messing with her.
18:49And O'Shea, she, then she, you was trying to get
18:51a two with her last night, too.
18:52I wasn't trying to get a two for what?
18:53When I was talking tomorrow, you was, you.
18:55Because she was talking shit, calling me out,
18:57because she felt like she was with you.
18:59The moral of the story is this.
19:02Don't, I'm, it's because it's being said like I didn't help
19:05or I'm not doing anything.
19:06Let's be very clear.
19:07Cashie is my friend of two years.
19:09Let's not throw that out the window.
19:11I'm not getting ready to just jump up
19:12and fight this man on camera.
19:14This is my real life friend.
19:16If I was to get into something today or tomorrow
19:18and I was down on my ass, I could call him
19:20the same way he could call me, and he would do whatever
19:22for me I need him to do, and vice versa.
19:24I'm not getting ready to get on camera, and that's for nobody.
19:27I'm not going to get on camera and just fight my friend.
19:29So it's just that simple.
19:30How do you feel about him saying that?
19:32What make you think that you could call him
19:33and he can't call me, and I wouldn't be there?
19:36I didn't, that's not what I'm saying.
19:38That's not what I'm saying.
19:39So what you're telling me is you want him hiding me.
19:41I'm going to show you a prime example.
19:43I'm going to show you a prime example.
19:45The same way any of your friends disrespect me,
19:47what do you do?
19:48You try to beat me.
19:49I always check it.
19:50You don't jump up, you not get ready to fight me.
19:52I always do.
19:52I would never let none of them disrespect you.
19:55They move.
19:56All of them disrespect me.
19:57Like who?
19:58I can name three of your friends that called you
19:59and said that they was going to slap me.
20:00Because you provoked them.
20:02People never call me at all.
20:03By saying things that you say that we've talked about already.
20:05Nobody is calling my phone saying they're
20:07going to do anything to you.
20:08So that's one.
20:09People call your phone.
20:10So all of those people that call,
20:11have they ever put their hands on you?
20:12It doesn't matter, because I nip it in the bud.
20:14You don't do anything.
20:15You don't know what I do.
20:16I don't have to tell you what I do.
20:18I don't have to tell anybody.
20:19That's how it seems.
20:20You feel like you do that because you want to.
20:22Nope.
20:23Once again, nobody's feeling comfortable with that.
20:24Before it gets to you, I already nip it in the bud.
20:26Nobody's feeling comfortable with that.
20:28But you feel like you want to add to the back,
20:28telling me that they're going to do anything to you.
20:30I did not know he was about to come out there
20:31and throw the, that that was the first time
20:32he was going to come up to you.
20:33I mean, that was not right.
20:34You feel like he should have took your back?
20:35I feel like he should have.
20:36And for my friend.
20:37I feel like I would have cracked him.
20:38Yeah, I would have done the same.
20:38Fuck him.
20:39I don't even see him hit you.
20:40I don't give a fuck.
20:41I just saw y'all throw a drink on each other.
20:42I'll be with me.
20:43I saw them throw a drink.
20:44I saw them throw a drink on each other.
20:45Yo, for you and your friend, get into it.
20:47Yeah, we fine.
20:47Yeah, yo, your husband's getting that, right?
20:49Oh, OK, then.
20:50And that's what I was saying.
20:51What would make you feel better?
20:52Well, at the same time, I do understand how it's
20:54comfortable for me to just turn it down.
20:56Because I genuinely was not.
20:57Yeah, and I accept that, so we can get it.
20:59I feel like we've been cool.
21:00We ain't had no issue.
21:02And I ain't want to have no issue with you, you know?
21:04That's my brother.
21:05OK, so y'all good.
21:07I don't give a fuck what nobody say.
21:08I know the type of nigga I am.
21:09I am not no bitch.
21:10I am not no female.
21:12I am not on this show.
21:13I'm not saying even that kind of show, sorry.
21:14And be messing with me, throwing drinks on people
21:16and all of that.
21:17If that's what you're choosing to do, do not.
21:18And that's the same reason why y'all got into it.
21:20Because you always say slick stuff like that.
21:22I'm going to say what I want.
21:23Right, but not to me.
21:24Don't do that with me.
21:25I'm going to say what I want.
21:26And especially around all of them.
21:27We can have that conversation in private.
21:28But here's the thing. We just had a long one.
21:31And you did express that you felt like sometimes he just
21:35says things and he doesn't, you know, really realize,
21:38like, maybe he's hurting your feelings
21:40or considering how you feel based off of the things
21:43that he's saying.
21:44All right.
21:45He just expressed it.
21:46Is that this moment right now?
21:47Am I saying something to him like?
21:48That's how he basically is.
21:50OK, well, I'm not even doing it.
21:53That's the thing, like, because I don't like being put
21:56in situations where I'm being made,
21:58I don't like to be made a mockery of.
22:00I'm not a joke.
22:00I do not carry myself like that.
22:02Before we came on the show, I already let it be known,
22:05do not be playing those little messy games like that.
22:07You did not have to go find that girl.
22:08I didn't go find her.
22:10All I did was pass the message.
22:11She didn't like it.
22:12What message were you passing?
22:13They said they was going to get her.
22:14And why does that mean they was going to get her?
22:16Who was banging you?
22:17Jazz and you know the rest of them.
22:18They said they going to get her from what she did last night.
22:19So I passed the message.
22:20I said, hey, look, watch your back
22:22because they planned on beating you up.
22:23So you were warning her.
22:24I was warning her.
22:25She said, and she responded, bitch,
22:27I heard you wanted it with me.
22:28Oh.
22:30So I threw my drink in your face because I'm not doing that.
22:32You a nigga bitch or whatever.
22:33So, you know, we can't fight you.
22:34So it takes my drink.
22:36OK, so can she come in here too?
22:38Because I feel like y'all should have a conversation.
22:39I'm just coming up here and I'm slapping that bitch.
22:41No.
22:41That bitch, that nigga, whatever.
22:43OK, so I'm just going to remove myself.
22:45I forgive you.
22:46Offer to strike the mall, but I don't fuck with your bitch.
22:48But I just feel like it should be paid as a whole
22:50because this is a love show.
22:51We're going to pay it.
22:52We're going to pay it.
22:53Yeah, we're going to pay it like that.
22:54All right, I don't have nothing to say to her.
22:55You're just going to leave her alone?
22:56Yeah, she's going to leave me alone too
22:57and don't say nothing at all.
22:58She's not going to say nothing to you.
23:00You know that act last night?
23:01Yeah, what's up with D. Scott?
23:02I don't have to.
23:03When you in, mall get into it.
23:04I don't never get in between.
23:05So you should check your bitch and let her know
23:07stay in her lane when y'all get into it.
23:08OK, and I can take that.
23:09And that's all I ask because I'm coming behind him.
23:11And I'll talk to her about that.
23:12But she's not going to say anything to you.
23:14So just, you ain't got to say nothing to her.
23:15And we can leave it alone.
23:16You can guarantee that?
23:17Huh?
23:18You can guarantee that?
23:19Yeah, if I tell her not to say nothing else to him,
23:21then she's not going to bother him.
23:22OK.
23:23So your issue lies with your partner.
23:26I mean, it is what it is.
23:27Let me know where he's staying, and we're
23:29going to leave it at that.
23:30What does that mean?
23:30He said what he said.
23:31You know, this is his first two years.
23:32Sorry, y'all together?
23:33Yeah, we cool.
23:34Like we said, we're friends.
23:35Your pardons?
23:36We're friends.
23:37Like he said, we're very close friends.
23:39Very close friends.
23:40Like he said earlier.
23:41Does this affect the relationship?
23:42Thank you, Karish.
23:44Does this affect the relationship?
23:45I wouldn't say it affects the relationship, but you know,
23:48it lets me know how he thinks.
23:49And I should know how to think when it
23:51comes to situations like this.
23:52OK, so you just didn't like the fact
23:54that you felt like D was being mad at you?
23:57I know for a fact that you keep messing.
23:59He walked out of this room with me
24:00and said I'm about to go be messy.
24:02You're lying.
24:03That's what you said.
24:04You said, let me go be messy.
24:04I'm tired of this shit.
24:05What are you talking about?
24:07I know I'm like the back of my hand, and that's not.
24:09And you don't like all that fighting and conversation.
24:11When you're here as a duo, when you're here with somebody else,
24:14that's involving me.
24:15And anything that you do, that's a reflection of me,
24:17just like anything I'll do is a reflection of him.
24:20That type of shit, I don't want to be involved with.
24:22I'm not throwing drinks and all of that little kitty,
24:25catty shit.
24:26I don't want to be involved in it.
24:27So and he understands that.
24:29You know that.
24:30So and if I tell you that you're wrong for doing it,
24:32it's just that simple.
24:33I'm not about it.
24:34He knows not only that.
24:35She's here with my brother as that.
24:38So what type of, that's, you can't put me in a situation
24:41and think I'm going to pick in between the two.
24:47Jocelyn, I really wanted to have this conversation off camera.
24:50But I guess given our history and what's
24:52been going on online, since we, I
24:55don't think we officially met.
24:56You know, I'm Tasha.
24:59Nice to meet you, Tasha.
25:00Nice to meet you as well, Jocelyn.
25:02OK.
25:04I, there's something I want you to know.
25:06Because I know there's a misconception online.
25:08And it has a lot to do with the branding.
25:10And I get it, right?
25:11But I want to tell you that my, my mentor is a trans woman.
25:16OK, real talk.
25:18And I just called him, calls himself, he, she, we.
25:21But it's flame or rope.
25:23How do you feel about flame?
25:25I don't really get into all that.
25:28OK, like the politics of it all?
25:29I just believe in he and she.
25:33OK, OK.
25:35Well, I guess her brand is, because it's kind of,
25:40here's the thing with her.
25:42Her kids call her dad, right?
25:44Even though she's been living as a trans woman
25:48pretty much her whole life, you know?
25:51And these are her biological kids.
25:53And so for us, like, we're really, really, like, friends.
25:56Like, we're close.
25:57And I just don't want you to think that, you know,
26:03I have anything against you.
26:05Because I'm going to be honest with you.
26:06During that first season when I watched you on Deja Vu
26:09and they asked me to come on, I felt like people
26:13were ganging up on you.
26:14Like, even though, like, you know, you're great TV, right?
26:18And you're there to bring the drama, right?
26:20This is a show.
26:21Ain't nobody going to want to watch people just
26:22sitting around talking and shit.
26:24So you get it popping.
26:25But I did feel like they kind of took it overboard with you.
26:29And I felt like because they felt
26:30that you were an easy target is the reason why everybody just
26:36kind of combatted you, right?
26:38And so I wanted to talk to you about a lot of those things.
26:42But we got off on the wrong foot.
26:43Because when I walked in, I personally
26:46don't believe that trans women should fight women.
26:49Because the reality is I can't beat you.
26:52OK, but so do you believe that women should hit trans women?
26:55No, I do not.
26:56OK, so in that case, what do you expect me to do?
27:02I get it.
27:03And so I'm here because I'm not a fighter.
27:06I don't pretend to fight, right?
27:08But I'm here to really ask tough questions.
27:10We can kill each other with our words.
27:12Exactly.
27:12We don't have to use hands.
27:13Exactly.
27:14But that's what these bitches don't understand.
27:16I kill them with my words.
27:18OK, so here's the thing.
27:20I want you to know that I truly do not
27:22have anything against you.
27:24I think you're a beautiful trans woman, seriously.
27:28I'm a woman first, trans second.
27:29So you don't have to put that label on me.
27:32I'm not wearing trans on my forehead.
27:35You can just be like, you're a beautiful woman.
27:37And that's that.
27:38Well, see, Jocelyn, OK, so here's the thing.
27:40You want me to respect your pronouns
27:44and what you go by, right?
27:45I just don't feel like you have to put trans
27:47in front of everything.
27:47I get it.
27:48But here's where we, and I don't want it to be.
27:51I think sometimes with any community or with any group,
27:56right, we all want to be respected as such,
28:00whatever it is that we are.
28:02I do feel that it's not reciprocated a lot.
28:05How not?
28:06Because as a biological woman, for me
28:11to acknowledge you as a full woman,
28:14that's you not respecting my truth and my reality.
28:18What are you saying?
28:19I'm confused.
28:21Right.
28:22When have I ever?
28:23If you're putting trans in front of it,
28:25that doesn't have to do with anything, no shade.
28:27Like, at the end of the day, trans woman, woman,
28:30it's still all in the same category.
28:32It's not.
28:33It is.
28:34Yes, it is.
28:36It's not.
28:39Well, anyway, I just don't.
28:40But as, here's the thing.
28:41I just don't wear trans on my forehead.
28:43OK, so when you refer to me, she's pretty.
28:45She's a pretty girl, pretty woman.
28:47You're pretty because this is what you do.
28:48But you don't have to put trans woman
28:49on top of that, because that means you're putting me in a,
28:51you're confining me in this one area.
28:54So you feel that you're a woman.
29:00That's what I said, right?
29:01OK, so I can respect that you feel that way.
29:04But me as a person, as long as I respect you
29:08and I address you as the pronouns that you are,
29:11I call you her.
29:12I say she.
29:13I call you by your name.
29:16Yeah, I don't have no, I can respect
29:18what you're saying and stuff like that.
29:20But that's just not how I walk around labeling myself.
29:23OK, and I can respect that too.
29:25As long as I feel like it's a common respect here,
29:29then we shouldn't be getting into it.
29:31Right, however, I'm here to ask tough questions now.
29:35OK, but once you start pulling, once you
29:37start hitting below the belt and stuff, calling me names,
29:41that's when we get into it.
29:42When did I call you a name?
29:44You didn't call me a name today, but I feel like the last,
29:47our last interaction.
29:48I didn't call you a name.
29:49I watched the footage.
29:51You was calling older trans girls like niggas and stuff.
29:55Here's the thing, as a woman, I am humbly
29:59coming to you telling you.
30:01And I don't feel that women should be fighting men at all.
30:04Because once you put your hands on someone,
30:06all else goes out the door.
30:08So as a woman, I hold them just as
30:10accountable as I hold the person that they're fighting,
30:14if they're reciprocating.
30:16And I feel, personally, that you, as a trans woman,
30:23and you are identified as a woman,
30:25should only fight people that you are equal to.
30:29I'm sorry, I wasn't raised like that.
30:31If a bitch hit me, she was going to get hit back.
30:33And I'm not fighting that.
30:35You're not going to make me feel the feel like that.
30:37Do you honestly like fighting, though?
30:39I don't like fighting, no shade.
30:40I'm not a fighter.
30:41But if a bitch hit me, she was getting hit back.
30:43I'm not sitting here taking it out.
30:45I'm sorry.
30:46You know, I don't want you to feel this.
30:48I don't know what type of world y'all live in,
30:51where y'all think y'all can just push your hands on people
30:54and expect them not to retaliate.
30:55But it's not that over here with me.
30:57But you know I've never put my hands on you, right?
30:58You haven't, and I've never put my hands on you.
31:00But you tried.
31:01No, I haven't.
31:02During the last 10 minutes, you jumped off the chair.
31:03I don't feel like I tried to hit you, no shade.
31:05You didn't jump off the chair yet?
31:06No, that was the other one.
31:09OK, and me and Kenzie have looked at the camera.
31:12We don't give bitches free promo.
31:14What, you and Kenzie not on the same page no more?
31:16We don't give bitches free promo.
31:17And you like, uh-oh.
31:20This show is a bit different from the other shows
31:23that you filmed.
31:24And we're really trying to get to know you as a person,
31:26because, you know.
31:27But I don't feel that way.
31:29But I'm here to ask, is it OK if I do get to know you,
31:33and I do get a glimpse of y'all?
31:35I feel like letting you get to know me is like a mistake,
31:40in a way.
31:41Why?
31:42I feel like you take shit, and you run with it,
31:44and you flip it into your own ways.
31:47What would give you that impression?
31:49I don't know.
31:50Like, just the way you rant about things that you really
31:51don't need knowing nothing about, and stuff like that.
31:54Like, you really will go off not knowing anything, unhinged.
31:57And it's very bad.
31:58I don't know if it's the unwind with Hasha Hay,
32:01but you got to slow down on the wind.
32:05Men have dominion over this world.
32:10There's a reason why they are building buildings.
32:13I am not oblivious to my womanhood,
32:16and to the weaknesses that I have,
32:19and why it is that I need a man in my life.
32:23Because there are certain things, physically,
32:25that women cannot do, and we won't do.
32:28And to say that, you know, when we
32:31have a lot of these feminist movements and stuff,
32:33they're speaking, not for me, as a woman who pushes babies out,
32:38and risks her life, and has all types of issues that men don't
32:43go through.
32:44But a lot of women don't push babies out, though.
32:45I get that.
32:46I get that, too.
32:47I get that, too.
32:48But what I'm saying overall is, a man, I.D., is my king.
32:54He is supposed to protect me, even from myself.
32:58Correct.
32:59I felt the same way about myself, you know?
33:00Exactly.
33:01When I fight someone that I know physically is stronger than me,
33:06I expect them to dominate me mentally, not physically.
33:11And I feel like, even if you are living as a woman,
33:15and you're in a relationship with a man,
33:17that man that you're with should understand,
33:20he doesn't ever have to put his hands on you.
33:22He should be able to dominate you mentally.
33:24And that's what I'm here to do, contrary to popular belief.
33:30I am here because I honestly got upset.
33:34And I was damn near in tears when I saw that video of you.
33:37Nobody, I don't care if you're a man, woman, trans,
33:40hermaphrodite, whatever it is, child, nobody,
33:43you having to cover your face up with makeup,
33:46I'm looking at your eye.
33:48But that's not from him, though.
33:50I know it's not.
33:51It's not from him.
33:52It's not from him, no.
33:53I know it's, you had a couple of situations.
33:57I know that.
33:58I know that, with the girls and with him.
34:00And I don't know what's going on between y'all relationship,
34:03but here's the thing.
34:05I'm here to really just figure out,
34:10and the world wants to know.
34:11And that's why you're on this show.
34:14Are you guys in love?
34:15Are you lusting after each other?
34:17And are you loyal to one another?
34:19And that's all I'm here for.
34:20I don't have any desire to call you names or disrespect you
34:24or not understand you.
34:25We can agree to disagree on some things,
34:27but that doesn't mean that we have to get
34:29disrespectful with one another.
34:31And from this moment on, I will respect you.
34:36I've never, ever not respected you.
34:39I just feel like, you know, when people get to talking shit,
34:42we get to talking shit.
34:43But I will never, ever raise my hand to you.
34:45And I never have, and I never will.
34:48And I'm like, I have to be there.
34:50We got into it.
34:51I read you.
34:52That's what I do.
34:54And that's OK.
34:54Read away.
34:55It's great for reading.
34:56So let it out.
34:58I don't like that though, because it's
35:00like, you be nice now, and then when you in crowds,
35:02like, you be trying to, like, replay people.
35:04No, I have to ask questions.
35:05It's OK to ask questions, but it's also, like, you have to,
35:08like, you say, be respectful when you're asking the questions.
35:12I'm not calling you out of your name.
35:14I'm saying, how you want somebody to open up to you
35:16when you not making them feel comfortable.
35:18You know what I mean?
35:19I get it.
35:20As a host, I feel like certain things has to be done.
35:22Like, you know, I understand that's, like,
35:24your way of doing things, but you can't always do that
35:26when you want to host a crowd.
35:28So.
35:30And you want people to listen to you.
35:31You want people to feel comfortable with you, right?
35:32Here's the thing. Yes.
35:33And I've been doing this a very, very long time.
35:36And it's very rare that I have someone
35:38who is super sensitive about the way that I do business.
35:42Because I feel like you should be able to sit in front of me
35:45and say what you want and vice versa.
35:48But some people cannot take people like me
35:51who are going to ask things
35:53that you may not be comfortable with.
35:55It's not about asking, it's the disrespect that you display.
35:59Okay, and if you feel like I disrespected you,
36:01I humbly apologize.
36:03Okay?
36:05And so I will try my best to connect with you
36:09and to be mindful of how I approach you.
36:13But please understand, I'm here to do my job.
36:16And I'm here to do mine too.
36:18Okay, and I expect you to,
36:19because you wouldn't be here if you didn't, okay?
36:22You're great TV, you have a great relationship
36:24with NowThis TV, they love you.
36:26And they really, really want us to,
36:29because this is a different type of show, okay?
36:32And they really want me to try to figure out,
36:36you know, what's going on in your relationship.
36:38Because that video that I saw,
36:40like, when I tell you, I cannot even,
36:43I know that's your man,
36:45but I've never in my life have ever been hit by a man.
36:52I can't even fathom that.
36:53But I feel like a lot of,
36:54everybody goes through things in their relationships.
36:57Like, a lot of women out here
37:01getting hit on and stuff like that, you know?
37:03So when it's sensitive topics like that,
37:06I feel like I would like you
37:08to be a little more sensitive to it.
37:11I am sensitive, but I'm not sensitive to a grown man
37:14justifying doing anything like that to anybody,
37:18including somebody that he's with.
37:20And so just please know that when I talk to your partner,
37:24it's gonna be tough, he's a man.
37:27I'm not going to beat around the bush,
37:29I'm not gonna kiss his ass,
37:30I'm not gonna stroke his ego.
37:33Because a lot of times when the rah-rah comes,
37:36it's because they're on the defense mode
37:38because they know that the way that they're reacting
37:40is wrong.
37:41And you cannot tell me
37:43that that shit doesn't hurt you.
37:47But in another breath, though, like, you know,
37:50I do gotta take some type of accountability
37:52because I did, like, you know, hit him first.
37:56And you gotta stop that too?
37:57I do gotta stop that because I be hitting,
38:00like, you know, and I be thinking, like,
38:02that nigga not supposed to hit me back, but I don't know.
38:04We gonna figure it out, okay?
38:06But I didn't like what the fuck I saw.
38:08And, you know, yeah, we doing TV,
38:11but there's a line that's gotta be drawn, okay?
38:13And so you should be able to walk out of here and see
38:17and not have to worry about, you know,
38:19anything broken or anything.
38:21Like, he can find a way to restrain you
38:24without putting his full force on you.
38:28And we're gonna get to the bottom of why he feels
38:30that he has to use his full force against you
38:33because I've seen you fight
38:35and I don't, you don't strike me as somebody like him
38:39that could, you know, put his ass down.
38:43So why would he feel the need to be aggressive
38:45with you like that?
38:46So I'm really here for you.
38:48And when you walked in, I truly,
38:50when I was arguing, I was arguing with your partner
38:53about putting his hands on you.
38:55But because me and you had unresolved issues,
38:58we got off on the wrong foot, okay?
39:02So just know when it comes to this,
39:05I'm on your side and that's real talk.
39:08But you should not be putting hands on him.
39:11I know.
39:12And I'm working on that.
39:13All right, can we hug it out?
39:15Okay.
39:16All right, mama.
39:18All right, I'm gonna go.
39:20Let's get this TV done.
39:24I was told that swag, you,
39:26you're like polyamorous, right?
39:28I mean, yeah, I am.
39:30But, you know, it is what it is.
39:33It is what it is.
39:34No, for real, Ivory, who's that fucking snake?
39:37Don't get in my face.
39:38Get that fucking snake off of me.
39:39Yeah, shut up, bitch.
39:40Try putting your mouth in your ass.
39:41Let me get the fuck away from you.
39:44Try putting your ass in my mouth.
39:45Take your partner's hand and hold it up like this.
39:48So your challenge of the day is?
39:51We handcuffed him.
39:52You handcuffed him?
39:53You handcuffed him?
39:54You handcuffed him?
39:55That's not what we said.
39:56That's not what we said.
39:57Oh, okay.
39:58We chose our partners dead.
40:00Now they pushing us because they
40:01want to push it, I'm telling you.
40:03Watch how this play out.
40:04Oh, it's going to be some diddy shit going on, okay?
40:08Listen.