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00:00On the other hand, the BICAM report that they are going to pass, where there are blanks on some pages,
00:06Senator Grace Poe, the chairperson of the Senate Finance Committee,
00:10argued that there is nothing wrong with strengthening the 2025 National Budget.
00:14Joseph Moro witnessed it.
00:20As chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Senator Grace Poe
00:23is the first to study and defend the 2025 National Budget.
00:28Poe argued that there is no miracle and nothing wrong with passing the 2025 National Budget.
00:34Despite the statements of some lawmakers,
00:37including Sen. Davao City 3rd District Rep. Cedro Ungab,
00:40Kabataan Partylist Rep. Raul Manuel,
00:43and Sen. Aimee Marcos,
00:45when the BICAM Rule Conference Committee report was ratified,
00:48there are blanks on the provisions.
00:49In terms of stages, from BICAM report that is black and no bill with tickers,
00:57who did it?
00:59In the enrolled bill, that is the most important thing in BICAM.
01:04There are no blanks there and all the totals have already been verified.
01:09In fact, when it was enrolled, there are no blanks.
01:12Senator Chief also said it right yesterday, which should really be referenced.
01:18In fact, also the President has seen that there are no blanks in our enrolled bill.
01:24Marikina Rep. Stella Kimbo is the Vice Chairperson of the House Appropriations Committee
01:29of the 2025 Budget and Acting Chairman.
01:32Earlier, we tried to ask her about the issue.
01:35Between the BICAM and then the enrolled, at what point did the figures come in?
01:39I don't know.
01:41Why didn't you answer?
01:43Why didn't you answer?
01:45If it's just a procedural thing for Congress.
01:47Everything has already been answered.
01:49How, ma'am?
01:51Everything has already been explained.
01:53Everything has already been explained.
01:55The CSP has already been explained.
01:57But the issue is the BICAM.
01:59There are copies of the BICAM report obtained by GMA Integrated News from Unga Batmanuel.
02:04We also obtained a copy from an unnamed source in the Senate.
02:07Although there are differences in the number and position of the signatures,
02:11the blanks are the same.
02:13The BICAM report was ratified by the Congress to be the basis of the enrolled bill
02:18and to be signed by the President as the General Appropriations Act or 2025 National Budget.
02:23But if we compare the blanks in the BICAM report to a law in the General Appropriations Act,
02:28the total amount that will not be reduced is P138.36 billion.
02:34That's the largest budget for NIA under the Agriculture and Fisheries Modernization Program.
02:39The blanks in the BICAM report is P56.4 billion.
02:44According to the CSP members, the blanks in the enrolled bill have already been removed after they ratified the BICAM report.
02:51That's why they're asking who did this.
02:54From BICAM, did the Senate or Congress draft the enrolled bill?
02:58Both. There's a technical working group that actually consolidates both the reports of the House and the Senate.
03:07When we have completed the BICAM report and we submitted it as an enrolled bill, it was complete.
03:14It's complete.
03:15Yesterday, Senate President Jesus Codero said that there is a provision in the BICAM report
03:20that if there is a difference between the BICAM report and the enrolled bill, the enrolled bill will be the next.
03:25Several groups are now preparing to question the Supreme Court the legality of the 2025 National Budget.
03:31For GMA Integrated News, Joseph Morong, your witness.