Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 29th Jan 2025
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00:00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:00:10Peace be upon you. Ladies and gentlemen, how are you? Are you all well?
00:00:14On behalf of Ashfaq Hisaq Sati, I would like to send my greetings to all of you.
00:00:18Tani Tanha, Aaj Ka Baakhabar Sawera will be with you.
00:00:21It doesn't mean that I am alone.
00:00:22Obviously, I have the whole team, Mashallah, with me.
00:00:25And only Sadaf Abdul Jabbar will not be available today.
00:00:28So, tell me, how was your day so far?
00:00:32And it is said that if your start of the day is good, then the whole day passes well.
00:00:37So, it is your own role to take your day positively.
00:00:44Because the world is not easy. Life is not easy.
00:00:47You have to face difficulties.
00:00:49But the better your attitude and the way you look at things and learn from them, the easier it is for you.
00:00:58Okay, we were talking about ease.
00:01:00I was looking at one thing that if we talk about the people living in Pakistan,
00:01:05there is no ease from an economic point of view.
00:01:08Because the tax system is increasing.
00:01:10And yesterday we were talking, in our show, it was being said that
00:01:13the budget that will come in the future, what other mountains will be broken in it?
00:01:17Because the salaried class is such a class on which everyone is harassed.
00:01:21And the rest of the retailers or anyone else, by talking in some way, by joking,
00:01:26or by using some other leverage, they escape.
00:01:31So, let's see what the government does this time.
00:01:33Okay, one thing, one thing I saw was very interesting.
00:01:36The statement of AB de Villiers regarding the return to cricket.
00:01:39Everyone was so happy about it that AB de Villiers is probably announcing a return to international cricket.
00:01:45I also went and clicked quickly and saw.
00:01:47I said, let me see what the news is.
00:01:49Then I found out that it is a tournament, World Championship of Legends.
00:01:53So, they will participate in it.
00:01:55Okay, let's talk about political issues.
00:01:57So, the situation in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is that
00:02:01Tehreek-e-Insaf has now decided to make an alliance.
00:02:04He had an alliance, but he wants that he should not be alone in it.
00:02:07Although there are other opposition parties with him,
00:02:11they should support him.
00:02:13So, the day before yesterday, the PTI delegation met Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman at his residence.
00:02:19And then it is that Umar Ayub says that
00:02:22he met Maulana on the instructions of Bani for the dissolution of democracy.
00:02:27You will remember when it was the matter of the 26th amendment.
00:02:30So, during that time, we saw that Maulana's house was the center of politics.
00:02:37And we were saying that the most worried person at that time was Maulana's chef
00:02:41because food, arrangements, everything was his responsibility.
00:02:46But anyway, now it is that Umar Ayub says that
00:02:51in these circumstances, it is not possible to proceed with negotiations with the government.
00:02:57Okay, remember that these were not negotiations with the government.
00:03:00That committee had the representation of the entire parliament.
00:03:03That is, it also had MQM.
00:03:05You also saw Mr. Ijaz-ul-Haq.
00:03:08The rest of the people were also shown to represent the parliament.
00:03:11So, now it is that he said that he had already said that
00:03:14if the commission is not made, then there will be no further talks.
00:03:17And then what did Salman Akram Raja say about this?
00:03:19Listen to that too.
00:03:21We told Maulana that what happened in the negotiations that had started with the government.
00:03:28We also requested Maulana that now in this country,
00:03:31for the preservation of the constitution, every democratic candidate will have to come together.
00:03:36Maulana listened to us very carefully.
00:03:39There are many opportunities to move forward.
00:03:41Maulana has promised that he will discuss this with us further.
00:03:46We are now inviting the whole of Pakistan
00:03:48to stand on this one point for the preservation of the constitution.
00:03:53I understand that in these circumstances,
00:03:55it becomes very difficult and impossible for the installed government to proceed with the negotiations.
00:04:01The fundamental things that we demand from the commission,
00:04:05your 26th of November and 9th of May,
00:04:08have not been made.
00:04:10On one hand, you have seen this.
00:04:12On the other hand, Irfan Siddiqui says that
00:04:15we still expect a second look from the PTI.
00:04:20And we will also wait for the PTI's answer by 31st of January.
00:04:25The implementation of the constitution has been completed.
00:04:31Our committee is still in place.
00:04:34We have not evaluated it.
00:04:36This committee will remain in place until 31st of January.
00:04:43If they contact the speaker during this time,
00:04:46or if they think again that this window should be opened,
00:04:49this door should be opened,
00:04:51they can contact the speaker.
00:04:53The PTI will sit with them before 31st of January.
00:04:57And what does the speaker say about the status of the negotiations?
00:05:01Let's talk about this.
00:05:03Senator Kamran Murtaza, the leader of the JUIFA, is present with us.
00:05:07It is obvious that Kamran Murtaza has his own status in the JUI.
00:05:11And he gives very useful legal advice to his community.
00:05:15Senator, thank you very much.
00:05:17Please tell us, what is the reason for these relations?
00:05:22Is it because of the government alliance,
00:05:25or because of what happened during the 26th amendment?
00:05:28Or is it because you are well-connected over there as well?
00:05:33And from what perspective has this conversation started?
00:05:38We are normal people.
00:05:40If someone wants to come to us, we welcome them.
00:05:44For a long time, these relations were not that active.
00:05:49There was a lot of communication in between.
00:05:52We received a lot of messages from different people
00:05:55who were connected to the PTI,
00:05:58but they never matured.
00:06:00And there was a little talk,
00:06:02but then it dropped.
00:06:04So now a delegation had come,
00:06:08and we all welcomed the delegation,
00:06:12and listened to their talks.
00:06:14There were three basic things.
00:06:16First, they wanted us to agree on a negotiation.
00:06:19There are nominations in the election commission.
00:06:22They wanted us to work together on that.
00:06:25And second, they want us to work together on the constitution
00:06:29and the way the law is being violated.
00:06:33They want us to come up with a strategy.
00:06:36So the first thing was to tell them about the negotiations.
00:06:40Then we told them about the election commission
00:06:43and what we think about it.
00:06:46And then we'll see what we can do in the future.
00:06:49But the real problem here is not the election commission.
00:06:52It's the powerful people who rig the elections
00:06:55or take matters into their own hands.
00:06:58And the third thing we told them...
00:07:01The politicians who form alliances.
00:07:04Of course, we all get used to that.
00:07:07So the third thing we told them was about the constitution.
00:07:10We told them that we'll keep this matter in front of the party.
00:07:13And the way they took the matter to the party...
00:07:16It was about the nominations.
00:07:19We established a heartline for the nominations.
00:07:23The politicians will be there.
00:07:26I'll be there.
00:07:27If there's an immediate matter, we'll contact each other.
00:07:30Okay.
00:07:31Tell me about this.
00:07:33I was just talking about the 26th amendment.
00:07:36Our memories haven't faded that much.
00:07:39Maulana was the most important person for every party.
00:07:42Not just for the opposition, but for the government as well.
00:07:46And all the meetings and contacts...
00:07:49And Maulana's status was so important.
00:07:52He didn't stay in touch afterwards.
00:07:55What was the relationship between you and the government?
00:07:58Because it was said that there was a parliamentary representative in this committee.
00:08:02So were you all on board in this?
00:08:05I didn't understand you.
00:08:08Were you talking about negotiations with the PTI?
00:08:11No, we weren't in touch with them.
00:08:14Okay.
00:08:15I don't know if anyone from the government trusted Maulana.
00:08:22But the PTI trusted him for the first time.
00:08:25And of course, there were negotiations between them.
00:08:30If someone trusts us, it's a good thing.
00:08:33We welcome it.
00:08:34And if they don't, it's their choice.
00:08:37We didn't trust the PTI for the first time.
00:08:42All right.
00:08:43You mentioned that there was a hotline in place to stop the negotiations.
00:08:51But do you think that any statement...
00:08:53For example, if we talk about Ali Amin Gandapur...
00:08:56The way he speaks about Maulana and your party...
00:09:01Is it possible that your party doesn't want Maulana to speak about another party?
00:09:09And the statement should be to a certain extent.
00:09:11These are things that can go beyond a certain limit.
00:09:14So what is your and Maulana's position on this?
00:09:17We are very disciplined people.
00:09:20Whatever I do, I don't take a step forward without Maulana's permission.
00:09:26But the lack of leadership in the PTI is not my feeling.
00:09:35It's possible that I'm wrong.
00:09:37So you're comparing us to less disciplined people.
00:09:44I'm not in a position to say anything about Ali Amin.
00:09:48I'm part of the hotline that has reduced the number of votes.
00:09:52So it's not appropriate for me to say anything.
00:09:54But do you think that a party that is a one-man show party...
00:09:59And has no status except for one person...
00:10:01And the one who is criticized is accepted...
00:10:04And the one who is ignored is fired...
00:10:07Is it possible that something happens there without their consent?
00:10:11I don't want to comment on this.
00:10:14The reason is that I want to get rid of the negotiations, not increase them.
00:10:19Obviously, you don't have a political alliance.
00:10:25And there are differences.
00:10:28We have seen that the negotiations will increase based on two or more people.
00:10:34What can you offer them?
00:10:39We have nothing to offer.
00:10:43We are sitting in the opposition.
00:10:46There are eight people in the National Assembly and five people in the Senate.
00:10:50We have no confidence in the opposition.
00:10:56When they have to nominate someone...
00:10:59And we can't tell the government.
00:11:02We have no complaint.
00:11:03If we were a part of the government, we would have a complaint.
00:11:09This is the first time since the assembly came into existence.
00:11:13This is the first time that we have been asked by the opposition to nominate an election commission.
00:11:19Let's go together and nominate an election commission.
00:11:24We welcome this.
00:11:26This is a good thing.
00:11:27This should have been done long ago.
00:11:29The establishment of a permanent position in both parts of the parliament should have been done long ago.
00:11:35It could not be done.
00:11:36I don't know the reason.
00:11:38But if something happens, even if it happens late, it should be appreciated.
00:11:44But there has been a history of different political parties.
00:11:47If it is a matter of protest or other issues, then after coming up with their own purpose,
00:11:52we have often seen that the JUI is left in the middle.
00:11:56So what will be different this time?
00:11:59Or how will you present it?
00:12:03Look, we have learned a lot.
00:12:06We humans learn something every day.
00:12:09Even after the protest, we have learned a lot through the political process.
00:12:17Although we have established our power, we have also convinced our power.
00:12:21But apart from this, we have also learned something.
00:12:26Look, the people who were with us, Maulana Sahib Burra,
00:12:30he did not stay behind in any of the debates.
00:12:34So we are also human beings.
00:12:37And we also have a problem of thinking.
00:12:42But we keep the practice of learning in mind.
00:12:47And we keep that experience in mind as we move forward.
00:12:52In the context of all these debates,
00:12:55has there been any contact from the government?
00:12:58There has not been any contact from the government.
00:13:02However, Maulana Sahib called the President yesterday regarding the PICA Act.
00:13:09Maulana Sahib called the President last night.
00:13:13And he told him that whatever is happening is unfair.
00:13:16You should also pay your dues.
00:13:18According to my knowledge, he has been told to do something.
00:13:25And in a couple of days, there may be some development in that.
00:13:29But Senator, your thoughts on that act?
00:13:31Because there is a lot of talk about it.
00:13:33And we say that this legislation is not for a single term.
00:13:36In fact, it has far-reaching effects.
00:13:39The government that can possibly be in opposition today,
00:13:42and then they will have objections that this is wrong.
00:13:45I don't think this is our issue.
00:13:47Our issue is that the legislation should be seen in its true sense.
00:13:52This is our issue.
00:13:54The legislation should be upheld.
00:13:56Article 19 is directly being offended by this.
00:14:00Okay.
00:14:01Thank you very much, Senator Kamran Mardar, for being with us.
00:14:05We were talking to him.
00:14:06And as he was saying that Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib has contacted the President.
00:14:11So basically, the Senate has approved it.
00:14:13And after that, the bill to amend the PECA Act has been sent to the President.
00:14:18And after that, this bill will be legalized by his approval.
00:14:24And then, Senator Kamran Murtaza was saying that
00:14:28Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib has spoken to the President.
00:14:31And in a couple of days, we will see what happens.
00:14:33Let's see.
00:14:34In the Senate, the opposition protested in front of the Chairman of the Senate.
00:14:37The journalists also walked out on this.
00:14:39And then, the opposition leader, Shibli Faraz, was saying that
00:14:42the amendment to the PECA Act will take the country back.
00:14:45The amendment to the PECA Act will speed up the political revenge.
00:14:48And Amal Wali Khan said that the PECA Act is banning the use of words.
00:14:53It opposes the bill.
00:14:54Okay.
00:14:55On this, the deputy minister, Rana Tanveer, was saying that
00:14:58the PECA Act will deal with social media.
00:15:00Evil is being spread in the society.
00:15:02It will be better than the bill.
00:15:03Okay.
00:15:04Now, Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore, Faisalabad, Sukkur, Quetta, and other cities
00:15:09have protested against the amendment to the PECA Act.
00:15:18Let's talk to the leader of the People's Party, Sharmila Faruqi.
00:15:23Thank you so much, Sharmila.
00:15:24And a very good morning to you.
00:15:26Please tell us, the journalists are protesting.
00:15:30I was just talking to Mr. Kamran Murtaza.
00:15:32He said that Maulana Fazlur Rehman has contacted the President about this.
00:15:38Now, the ball is in his court.
00:15:40He has been dismissed.
00:15:42So, your thoughts?
00:15:43Will the President sign on this?
00:15:45Yes, thank you very much.
00:15:47Mr. Ashfaq, look, of course, this amendment is protected by the journalistic community.
00:15:54And there is a reason for it.
00:15:56The government's job was to get all the stakeholders,
00:15:59including media organizations and the journalistic community, on board.
00:16:04And with consensus, they would bring forth an amendment.
00:16:08Look, there are no two ways about it.
00:16:10On social media, there is also fake news.
00:16:13And it has its own negative effects.
00:16:16But if there is a change in the laws,
00:16:20it is very important that, just like the People's Party works,
00:16:24we develop a consensus.
00:16:26We take stakeholders on board.
00:16:28We make in-depth deliberations.
00:16:30And then, coincidentally, we move towards a constitutional amendment.
00:16:35Now, here, we were given the understanding
00:16:38that we will have discussions with media houses and journalists.
00:16:45And we will take them on board.
00:16:47Unfortunately, this was not done.
00:16:49But I want to assure you that
00:16:52the Pakistan People's Party has always supported freedom of the press.
00:16:57We have fought for it.
00:16:59And this time as well, we are standing with our journalistic community.
00:17:04Look, this is an amendment.
00:17:06This is not the end of the world.
00:17:08There can be further amendments.
00:17:10There can be improvisation.
00:17:11And there should be.
00:17:12That is why we will engage with the media.
00:17:14An amendment has been made.
00:17:15But right now, the matter is with the President.
00:17:17So, what options does the President have?
00:17:19Can he send it back?
00:17:21Can it be reconsidered?
00:17:23He has done this before in recent history.
00:17:25So, you know better about this.
00:17:28Look, the President definitely has the option
00:17:31that if he has objections on something,
00:17:35legally, not personally, but legally,
00:17:38then he can put an objection on it
00:17:40and send it back to the National Assembly or the Senate.
00:17:44Then the National Assembly sits on it again.
00:17:47If it thinks that these reservations are valid,
00:17:49then they will incorporate their recommendations in it.
00:17:53If they don't think so, then the bill will be passed again in the same way.
00:17:56But I just want to tell you one thing,
00:17:58that all is not lost.
00:18:00Yes, I know.
00:18:02We can bring further change to this.
00:18:05And let me tell you one thing.
00:18:07The punishment that was imposed on this,
00:18:09which is up to three years,
00:18:10this was ten years.
00:18:11The People's Party, sitting in the committees,
00:18:13protested against this.
00:18:15And we tried our best to water it down.
00:18:19And we did this for three years.
00:18:21So, you are saying that let it happen now.
00:18:23Inshallah, further amendments will be made.
00:18:25No, I am not saying that let it happen now.
00:18:27I don't know if President Asif Ali Zardari
00:18:29will approve of this or not.
00:18:31I can't speak on his behalf.
00:18:33But if there are other things that should be done,
00:18:37or if there is something missing,
00:18:39then he can bring it back.
00:18:41Okay, Mr. Sharmila, there is one thing.
00:18:43We have seen the history of the Pakistan People's Party.
00:18:45Over the years,
00:18:47we have worked on different TV channels.
00:18:49We have covered them.
00:18:51At times, there was a point of criticism.
00:18:53Mr. Gilani's case was in front of everyone
00:18:55when he was removed from the government.
00:18:57Apart from that, there are many examples.
00:18:59But the political maturity in this regard
00:19:01and the tolerance found in the People's Party
00:19:03is not found in other parties.
00:19:05Okay, when PTI did this work,
00:19:07we thought that okay,
00:19:09this is not the experience of their government.
00:19:12Maybe they don't have the tolerance.
00:19:14Maybe that's why they are doing this.
00:19:16But the Noon League,
00:19:18earlier it was a two-party system in Pakistan.
00:19:20There used to be a Noon League or People's Party.
00:19:22Do you think there is a lack of tolerance
00:19:24or is there some other reason?
00:19:26What are your thoughts on this?
00:19:28Mr. Ashfaq, I cannot speak on behalf
00:19:30of the other political parties.
00:19:32I wasn't in the PTA at all.
00:19:34But your observation…
00:19:36If you criticize them, you go straight to jail.
00:19:38Okay.
00:19:40I don't think PMLN can also tolerate
00:19:42criticism to a certain extent.
00:19:44Okay.
00:20:10Okay.
00:20:34One thing…
00:20:36You said…
00:20:40I told you that…
00:20:42I assure you that
00:20:44we are standing with
00:20:46our media community.
00:20:48If the government doesn't correct this,
00:20:50then the People's Party will.
00:20:52But tell me one thing.
00:20:54You said that it would be better
00:20:56to talk to the stakeholders on this issue.
00:20:58But were you consulted on this?
00:21:00To what extent were you consulted?
00:21:02They don't consult us on anything.
00:21:04No?
00:21:06We are their important ally.
00:21:08Maybe they don't understand this.
00:21:10They don't consult us.
00:21:12When we have a law in the committees,
00:21:14we are told to pass it.
00:21:16But we put our foot down
00:21:18and say that we will
00:21:20discuss it clause by clause.
00:21:22Like I told you earlier,
00:21:24we reduced the penalty of 10 years
00:21:26to 3 years.
00:21:28Again, the majority vote is with the government.
00:21:30Even if a law is made,
00:21:32it is not final.
00:21:34An amendment can be made on it.
00:21:36I think that
00:21:38we need to improve this.
00:21:40Because until
00:21:42the stakeholders are on board,
00:21:44they won't be satisfied.
00:21:46Then the work won't move forward.
00:21:48Thank you so much for your time.
00:21:50Let's hope for the best.
00:21:52Let's take a break.
00:21:54We will be back after the break.
00:21:56Let's take a break.
00:21:58We will be back after the break.
00:22:00Let's take a break.
00:22:02We will be back after the break.
00:22:04Let's take a break.
00:22:06The news is that
00:22:08in Karachi,
00:22:10the number of child abductions
00:22:12has not decreased.
00:22:14In the last two months,
00:22:1612 children have been abducted.
00:22:18That's a lot.
00:22:20This is a huge number.
00:22:22Especially when the media
00:22:24is constantly raising questions.
00:22:26In Pirabad,
00:22:28in Noorani neighborhood,
00:22:30a young boy
00:22:32was abducted.
00:22:34The abductor
00:22:36was taking the child.
00:22:38The citizens caught him.
00:22:40Afzal Khan is with us.
00:22:42Let's talk to him.
00:22:44Afzal, tell us
00:22:46the details of this incident.
00:22:50Ashfaq,
00:22:52this is Noorani, Pirabad.
00:22:54A six-year-old boy
00:22:56was abducted by a man.
00:22:58He took the boy
00:23:00from Noorani
00:23:02to another locality.
00:23:04The man
00:23:06wanted to abduct the boy.
00:23:08The abductor
00:23:10followed the boy
00:23:12to Noorani.
00:23:14The abductor
00:23:16handed him over to the police.
00:23:18The police
00:23:20has confirmed
00:23:22that the abductor
00:23:24was taking the boy
00:23:26to Noorani.
00:23:28The police
00:23:30is investigating
00:23:32if the abductor
00:23:34was involved
00:23:36in this incident.
00:23:38If he was a member
00:23:40of a gang,
00:23:42he could be arrested.
00:23:44Some incidents
00:23:46are increasing in Karachi.
00:23:48We create awareness
00:23:50that there is a TV in every house.
00:23:52Even if there is no TV,
00:23:54there is social media.
00:23:56We get to know
00:23:58these stories from somewhere.
00:24:00The parents
00:24:02and authorities
00:24:04are not paying attention
00:24:06to these incidents.
00:24:08What is the reason behind this?
00:24:12I spoke to
00:24:14Additional IG of Karachi,
00:24:16who said
00:24:18that the police
00:24:20is reporting
00:24:22the missing
00:24:24and abducted children.
00:24:26The media is also
00:24:28reporting
00:24:30the two bodies
00:24:32of Sarim
00:24:34and the abduction
00:24:36of two children
00:24:38from the garden.
00:24:40The police
00:24:42says that the police
00:24:44is taking care
00:24:46of the missing
00:24:48and abducted children.
00:24:50It is the responsibility
00:24:52of the parents.
00:24:54The parents
00:24:56should take care
00:24:58of their children.
00:25:00These incidents
00:25:02are increasing.
00:25:04I am surprised
00:25:06that the accused
00:25:08is still involved
00:25:10in such incidents.
00:25:12I would like to
00:25:14mention something.
00:25:16When I was a child,
00:25:18my mother used to
00:25:20add chilies,
00:25:22salt,
00:25:24and other spices.
00:25:26Why is turmeric added?
00:25:28I used to get confused
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00:31:16If we go back,
00:31:22I wrote a UNA report
00:31:24on water's impact
00:31:26on Pakistan.
00:31:40They wrote in 1990
00:31:42Pakistan touched
00:31:441990. Pakistan crossed water scarcity line in 2005. Pakistan will be dry if the present
00:31:54condition continue in 2025. Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region
00:32:02and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:32:07Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:32:14Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:32:21Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:32:28Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:32:35Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:32:40Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:32:45Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:32:50Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:32:55Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
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00:33:05Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
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00:36:25Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:36:30Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:36:35Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
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00:37:10Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:37:15Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:37:20Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:37:25Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:37:30Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:37:35Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:37:40Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
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00:40:10Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:40:15Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:40:20Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:40:25Pakistan will be most water stressed country in the region and 23rd in the world by 2040.
00:40:30This is very interesting for farmers. How can they manage in this situation?
00:40:35Professor Yassin, thank you very much.
00:40:37Before this, we were talking about the weather.
00:40:41Sardar Sarfaz is with us.
00:40:44Let's talk to him.
00:40:46Sardar, thank you so much for your time.
00:40:48I don't see any situation now.
00:40:52I think the cold is gone now.
00:40:54What is the situation?
00:40:57Thank you very much.
00:40:59We can say that there is a decrease in the severity of the cold in Karachi.
00:41:04Sardar, there is a decrease in the severity of the cold.
00:41:08You have given a political statement about the increase in inflation.
00:41:11Brother, I came to the office wearing a T-shirt today.
00:41:13There is no cold.
00:41:15Normal environment.
00:41:16I feel like using a fan at night.
00:41:18Yes, absolutely.
00:41:19Actually, it is a moisture problem since last night.
00:41:22You know that whenever there is a westerly wave in the country,
00:41:28the wind changes in Karachi due to that.
00:41:32The sea breeze has been blowing since yesterday afternoon.
00:41:35After that, there is a lot of moisture.
00:41:37The humidity was 90 plus in the morning.
00:41:39After that, there was fog and misty conditions.
00:41:42When there is foggy morning, it is a hot day.
00:41:50Today, the temperature is above 15 degrees.
00:41:55Above 15 degrees?
00:41:56Yes.
00:41:57In the next few days, there is a chance to stay in this rain.
00:42:02By the way, when you reach in the end of January,
00:42:05there is a change in Karachi.
00:42:07Especially when there is a westerly wave,
00:42:09it affects Karachi.
00:42:11The cold here is reduced.
00:42:16If the rainfall is 42 percent,
00:42:19overall, it is less in Pakistan and more in Sindh.
00:42:22Tell me, what is the further anticipation?
00:42:26I don't think it will have a positive impact on crops.
00:42:32Yes, definitely, it has an adverse impact on crops,
00:42:36especially wheat crops.
00:42:39You know that when there is a good rainfall in November,
00:42:42there is a lot of moisture in wheat.
00:42:45It is very important.
00:42:47In December, there is a good rainfall.
00:42:49In January, it is dry in December.
00:42:52Just like last winter,
00:42:54there was a good rainfall from January 28.
00:42:58But in this winter,
00:43:00it seems that in the next 3-4 months,
00:43:02the global models and seasonal forecasts
00:43:06predict that there will be very little rainfall.
00:43:09So, it will have a special impact on wheat crops
00:43:12and other local crops.
00:43:14That is going to be very concerning.
00:43:16Let's move on.
00:43:18Thank you very much for your time.
00:43:20Sardar Sarfaraz was with us.
00:43:22There are difficulties.
00:43:24If you look at Khush Sali,
00:43:26you can see difficulties everywhere.
00:43:28The issue is that the government,
00:43:30whether it is the members of the Punjab Assembly,
00:43:33the members of the Sindh Assembly,
00:43:35the members of the Wifaq,
00:43:37and the retired teachers of Wifaq Jamia Urdu
00:43:41have been deprived of their pensions for the past 5 months.
00:43:45They have been forced to come out on the streets.
00:43:48A rally was held from the Karachi Press Club
00:43:50to the Governor's House.
00:43:52Anwar Khan is reporting on this.
00:43:54Jamia Urdu teachers and employees
00:43:56had raised banners and pedicabs
00:43:58in protest at the Karachi Press Club.
00:44:00The demonstrators say that they have been subjected
00:44:02to the persecution of their responsibilities
00:44:04and the lack of pension payments.
00:44:06We are on the side of the government
00:44:08and we are trying to get rid of both these institutions
00:44:11from Karachi and make Islamabad prosperous.
00:44:13This case should be investigated at a high level.
00:44:16As soon as we saw it,
00:44:18four houses were built.
00:44:20It has become financially stable
00:44:22and teachers have come out on the streets.
00:44:24The convener of the Retired Employees Committee,
00:44:26Dr. Tohsir Ahmed, said that some employees
00:44:28were deprived of their pensions for the past 5 months
00:44:30and were forced to come out on the streets.
00:44:32We have not received a pension for the past 5 months.
00:44:34People who have been retired since 2017
00:44:36have not received a pension.
00:44:38The government has decided that
00:44:40more than 60 crore rupees are in the deposit
00:44:42of the university.
00:44:44But the government does not want to
00:44:46take action on this decision.
00:44:48Employees reached the Governor's House
00:44:50and used the bell of hope
00:44:52where the Governor's Office
00:44:54accepted the application from the opposition.
00:44:56In the presence of Dr. Tohsir Ahmed,
00:44:58three members of the government
00:45:00went to the Governor's House
00:45:02with their families.
00:45:04Anwar Khan, ARY News, Karachi
00:45:32Anwar Khan, ARY News, Karachi
00:46:02Anwar Khan, ARY News, Karachi
00:46:32Anwar Khan, ARY News, Karachi
00:46:34Anwar Khan, ARY News, Karachi
00:47:02Sunil Gavaskar.
00:47:04You know that Alan Border
00:47:06was from Australia and Sunil Gavaskar
00:47:08was from India.
00:47:10He criticized Rohit Sharma
00:47:12a lot.
00:47:14He criticized his fitness.
00:47:16There was a lot of talk in India
00:47:18about the yo-yo test.
00:47:20Rohit Sharma lodged a complaint
00:47:22against Sunil Gavaskar
00:47:24in the BCCI.
00:47:26You are a batsman.
00:47:28Your bat is there
00:47:30for you to answer.
00:47:32You should answer in cricket.
00:47:34Instead of complaining
00:47:36about a legendary figure
00:47:38like Sunil Gavaskar,
00:47:40you are complaining about him.
00:47:42Secondly, we discussed
00:47:44how Donald Trump
00:47:46is asking to shift
00:47:4815 lakh Palestinians
00:47:50from Gaza to
00:47:52Jordan and Egypt.
00:47:54They should be sent there permanently
00:47:56so that the Israelis can
00:47:58play freely.
00:48:00The rest of the world
00:48:02was criticizing him.
00:48:04Even France
00:48:06has opposed
00:48:08this proposal.
00:48:10This will be a setback for Trump.
00:48:12We will see what happens.
00:48:14ChatGPT
00:48:16and AI
00:48:18are all moving towards AI technology.
00:48:20But this ChatGPT
00:48:22had a shock.
00:48:24How did it shock?
00:48:26China's chatbot
00:48:28DeepSeek
00:48:30entered the US
00:48:32stock market
00:48:34and destroyed big US companies.
00:48:36Till now, US companies have
00:48:38suffered a loss of $1 crore.
00:48:40When we talk about Pakistan's economy,
00:48:42we don't get to hear this number.
00:48:44If we talk about the US,
00:48:46DeepSeek has become
00:48:48a top-trending free app
00:48:50in the US, UK and China.
00:48:52After DeepSeek's success,
00:48:54NVIDIA, a company that makes
00:48:56computer chips for AI models,
00:48:58has lost $600 million.
00:49:00I remember that NVIDIA's graphic cards
00:49:02were also related to gaming.
00:49:04I must have bought a cheap one.
00:49:06Google's parent company
00:49:08Alphabet has lost $100 million
00:49:10while Microsoft has lost $7 million.
00:49:12Donald Trump
00:49:14has declared DeepSeek
00:49:16a threat to the US industry.
00:49:18What is happening now?
00:49:20What are the losses?
00:49:22What can Pakistan do?
00:49:24What can we do?
00:49:26Let's talk to
00:49:28a social media expert,
00:49:30Sadaf Khan.
00:49:32Sadaf, thank you so much for your time
00:49:34and a very good morning to you.
00:49:36We Pakistanis observe
00:49:38from afar
00:49:40what is happening.
00:49:42We think it's a good thing.
00:49:44But what we find most interesting
00:49:46is the free application
00:49:48and its entry.
00:49:50What do you think?
00:49:56Nothing new has happened.
00:49:58Whenever technology develops,
00:50:00this is a natural way of things.
00:50:02A technology is very expensive
00:50:04and it takes a lot of money
00:50:06to develop it.
00:50:08When computers came,
00:50:10it was impossible to afford them.
00:50:12Servers were kept in big rooms.
00:50:14As the market
00:50:16increases,
00:50:18the cost of
00:50:20producing technology
00:50:22decreases.
00:50:24Technology improves.
00:50:26AI is a similar technology.
00:50:28When new technologies
00:50:30were introduced,
00:50:32to test them,
00:50:34to make models,
00:50:36to interact with users,
00:50:38a lot of investment
00:50:40was required.
00:50:42So they cracked the code?
00:50:44Yes,
00:50:46it was introduced in the market
00:50:48and the market is there.
00:50:50Adaptation is there.
00:50:52So technology had to be cheap.
00:50:54And the cost of developing
00:50:56technology had to be cheap.
00:50:58What I find interesting
00:51:00in DeepSeek is that
00:51:02they have kept their code open source.
00:51:04So companies
00:51:06who want to
00:51:08train on it,
00:51:10they have DeepSeek code available.
00:51:12It will be cheaper and easier for them.
00:51:14But this is a natural way of thinking.
00:51:16It has always been like this.
00:51:18Tell me one thing.
00:51:20We have seen
00:51:22the example of phones.
00:51:24If you talk about
00:51:26LEDs,
00:51:28the television sets,
00:51:30first came from big companies
00:51:32and then China
00:51:34started making them.
00:51:36In phones, other than Apple and Samsung,
00:51:38other companies are also coming
00:51:40with good features and cheap phones.
00:51:42But still,
00:51:44the name is
00:51:46the same as iPhone.
00:51:48They have their own uniqueness.
00:51:50Samsung's top variants have their own uniqueness.
00:51:52But people are buying other things too.
00:51:54Here, will ChatGPT
00:51:56have the same uniqueness
00:51:58if you compare?
00:52:00Or will it
00:52:02become obsolete after their arrival?
00:52:04We have to
00:52:06wait and see. I don't think
00:52:08ChatGPT will become completely obsolete.
00:52:10But it is possible that
00:52:12ChatGPT will improve.
00:52:14When there is competition in the market,
00:52:16your motivation
00:52:18and need to improve
00:52:20increases.
00:52:22DeepSeek has presented a good competition
00:52:24not only to ChatGPT
00:52:26but also to American monopoly.
00:52:28Like TikTok did in social media.
00:52:30In the world,
00:52:32the big tech giants
00:52:34are almost all
00:52:36Americans.
00:52:38Advance has introduced
00:52:40a technology through TikTok
00:52:42which challenges the monopoly.
00:52:44Similarly, AI
00:52:46has also come from China.
00:52:48Obviously, it will challenge
00:52:50the monopoly.
00:52:52But we have to see
00:52:54in which context
00:52:56the popularity has increased.
00:52:58The American political
00:53:00situation
00:53:02is being retaliated
00:53:04by the American people
00:53:06and
00:53:08the big tech giants
00:53:10who were present in the inauguration
00:53:12we have seen that
00:53:14there is a sense of resistance there as well.
00:53:16So, I think
00:53:18especially the numbers in terms of downloads
00:53:20not in terms of how the market has crashed
00:53:22that is very interesting.
00:53:24But the numbers that have been passed
00:53:26as a free chatbot
00:53:28which is being downloaded
00:53:30remember that since TikTok has been banned
00:53:32AmbiQ has also
00:53:34downloaded Red Note
00:53:36which is a Chinese app
00:53:38in the same numbers.
00:53:40Just as a form of resistance
00:53:42that TikTok has been banned
00:53:44so we will go.
00:53:46Tell me one thing
00:53:48that the American president
00:53:50Donald Trump
00:53:52has also called it a threat.
00:53:54But he is a businessman
00:53:56and a very successful one.
00:53:58He should have had this idea.
00:54:00Like you mentioned
00:54:02there is a lot of pressure on him
00:54:04not just the vaccine
00:54:06but also the clinical trials
00:54:08and the cost.
00:54:10Someone else had to come
00:54:12and crack the code
00:54:14and the Chinese have a history
00:54:16that isn't the first time they are doing that.
00:54:18Why is there a surprise
00:54:20and a shock on their side?
00:54:22I think
00:54:24the timing and the immediate uptake
00:54:26because
00:54:282-4 days ago
00:54:30we didn't hear about it.
00:54:32And as soon as it was introduced
00:54:34their stock market was disrupted
00:54:36and it became a threat.
00:54:38Also the things they claim
00:54:40that they have invested
00:54:42less than 100%
00:54:44in development.
00:54:46They also claim that
00:54:48they reduce the usage of energy
00:54:50which is a fascinating thing for me
00:54:52because one of the biggest criticisms
00:54:54on AI is that
00:54:56how much water they use
00:54:58DeepSeek also claims
00:55:00that environmentally
00:55:02they are much more efficient
00:55:04than ChargedGPT or Gemini
00:55:06which is a Google app.
00:55:08After that the uptake
00:55:10and the history of Chinese apps
00:55:12together
00:55:14instead of introducing
00:55:16the competition slowly
00:55:18a major competition has been introduced
00:55:20which has disrupted the market.
00:55:22How it will go ahead
00:55:24that we have to see.
00:55:26As far as I know
00:55:28DeepSeek is not
00:55:30directly connected to the internet.
00:55:32It is trained on 2024 data.
00:55:34ChargedGPT was introduced in the same way.
00:55:36It's not that it can't do it.
00:55:38They haven't introduced the features publicly yet.
00:55:40Despite that
00:55:42people's uptake
00:55:44and thirdly
00:55:46I think
00:55:48American political economy
00:55:50not just in terms of business sense
00:55:52ChargedGPT and
00:55:54American applications
00:55:56AI
00:55:58have their own western biases.
00:56:00How are we
00:56:02looking at it Sadaf?
00:56:04You are sitting there
00:56:06and it must be interesting for you.
00:56:08You must be looking at it.
00:56:10What is the perspective of Pakistan
00:56:12regarding DeepSeek?
00:56:14The perspective of Pakistan
00:56:16I can't say
00:56:18the national perspective
00:56:20of what will happen.
00:56:22Our government
00:56:24has been aligned with China.
00:56:26So
00:56:28I don't know
00:56:30their data sharing
00:56:32and data storage policies.
00:56:34As far as data sharing
00:56:36and Pakistan and China
00:56:38political relationship
00:56:40is concerned
00:56:42if the government
00:56:44tries to acquire data
00:56:46then
00:56:48their relationship
00:56:50with China
00:56:52will be useful.
00:56:54But I am not really sure about it.
00:56:56As far as data privacy is concerned
00:56:58we haven't got any major global analysis.
00:57:00As far as China is concerned
00:57:02there have always been concerns
00:57:04that Chinese government
00:57:06accesses users' data
00:57:08and they don't have
00:57:10data protection mechanisms.
00:57:12So there is a risk
00:57:14that is there.
00:57:16This is a global issue.
00:57:18People don't have answers.
00:57:20Because everybody knows
00:57:22what they are doing.
00:57:24Same goes for the Chinese I believe.
00:57:26For the freelancers
00:57:28or other people who want to use it
00:57:30has it started to be used in Pakistan?
00:57:32As of now
00:57:34we haven't got any major users.
00:57:36I can see a lot of commotion
00:57:38in the media.
00:57:40But the people I have asked
00:57:42I don't know if you have used it.
00:57:44As of now
00:57:46I haven't used it.
00:57:48I am sceptical.
00:57:50As of now
00:57:52we haven't heard much.
00:57:54At least locally
00:57:56I haven't understood the user base.
00:57:58People haven't started testing it.
00:58:00I have only tested it
00:58:02because I wanted to talk about it.
00:58:04I don't think
00:58:06there has been much adaptation
00:58:08in Pakistan.
00:58:10Let's see what happens next.
00:58:12Thank you so much Sadaf for your time.
00:58:14As of now
00:58:16it has started to spread.
00:58:18But the people
00:58:20will have to deal with it.
00:58:22Yesterday we spoke
00:58:24with Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari
00:58:26who is the chairman of People's Party.
00:58:28We will meet him
00:58:30regarding the
00:58:32concerns of the traders.
00:58:34He will tell us
00:58:36that there is no ease of doing business.
00:58:38No one wants to do business here.
00:58:40There are concerns.
00:58:42There are many issues.
00:58:44Yesterday
00:58:46there was Zohrana.
00:58:48Bilawal Bhutto
00:58:50complained to Wifaq.
00:58:52He said
00:58:54if you have any complaint
00:58:56then come to us.
00:58:58Don't go elsewhere.
00:59:00If you have any complaint
00:59:02then come to me.
00:59:04Don't talk nonsense.
00:59:06Bilawal Bhutto said
00:59:08that People's Party has been in power for 15 years.
00:59:10Did I
00:59:12disturb you?
00:59:14Why would I want anyone to disturb the traders
00:59:16in the name of my government?
00:59:18Like in the past, traders are not being asked to leave Karachi.
00:59:20Show us some love
00:59:22that you used to show to MQM.
00:59:24We are not that bad.
00:59:28Let's talk about it.
00:59:30We have with us Bureau Chief
00:59:32of Islamabad, Anchor Person
00:59:34Mr. Khawer Ghoman.
00:59:36Thank you so much for your time.
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01:04:26Look, this argument they are giving,
01:04:28there is no life in this as well.
01:04:30The reason for this is that in Pakistan,
01:04:32after the 18th amendment,
01:04:34there is a self-governing province.
01:04:36There are four provinces in Pakistan
01:04:38and in two provinces,
01:04:40the government of the
01:04:42Pakistan People's Party is in power.
01:04:44I am talking about Balochistan.
01:04:46I am talking about Sindh.
01:04:48The head of the Pakistan
01:04:50Federation is
01:04:52Mr. Asif Ali Zardari.
01:04:54Chairman of the Senate
01:04:56is a very important person.
01:04:58He is a member of the
01:05:00Pakistan People's Party.
01:05:02Deputy Speaker of the
01:05:04National Assembly is present.
01:05:06The BISP program,
01:05:08through which you know,
01:05:10the money distributed in Pakistan
01:05:12is in a large number.
01:05:14You have that ministry.
01:05:16You have that department.
01:05:18You cannot explain to people
01:05:20that we have no connection
01:05:22with the current government.
01:05:24You are a part of the current government.
01:05:26You have to take responsibility
01:05:28for it.
01:05:30The elections
01:05:32that took place
01:05:34on February 24,
01:05:36Balawal Bhuttoz Zardari
01:05:38campaigned in Punjab
01:05:40that we have no connection
01:05:42with the PDM.
01:05:44We did not make all the decisions.
01:05:46We presented our political
01:05:48obligations.
01:05:50In Punjab, in Lahore,
01:05:52where the Pakistan People's Party
01:05:54was formed,
01:05:56Balawal Bhuttoz Zardari
01:05:58got 25,000 votes.
01:06:00Mr. Tariq
01:06:02defeated him there.
01:06:04Coming back
01:06:06to the topic,
01:06:08tell me,
01:06:10the concerns of the traders,
01:06:12for which there was a lot of
01:06:14controversy,
01:06:16were their concerns addressed
01:06:18or were they just complaints?
01:06:20I think
01:06:22one day ago,
01:06:24on a lighter note,
01:06:26a trader said
01:06:28that we should bring
01:06:30Chief Minister of Punjab
01:06:32and Murad Ali Shah.
01:06:34I think this was addressed
01:06:36but the concerns,
01:06:38you are in Karachi,
01:06:40there are concerns of the traders,
01:06:42over taxation,
01:06:44they are talking about that.
01:06:46The interest rates are getting better.
01:06:48The overall environment
01:06:50for business
01:06:52is not good at the moment.
01:06:54In Pakistan,
01:06:56especially the medium
01:06:58and small industries
01:07:00in Punjab and the whole country
01:07:02are not good.
01:07:04I hope that
01:07:06Balawal Bhuttoz Zardari
01:07:08will listen to the
01:07:10concerns of the traders
01:07:12and will solve them
01:07:14and will raise his voice
01:07:16for the federal government.
01:07:18His voice will be heard.
01:07:20But of course,
01:07:22his complaint,
01:07:24especially of Balawal Bhuttoz Zardari,
01:07:26is that if you have a problem,
01:07:28talk to us.
01:07:30You can call the people
01:07:32of the federal government
01:07:34and go to different places
01:07:36and complain about us.
01:07:38So don't do that.
01:07:40So let's hope that
01:07:42Balawal Bhuttoz Zardari
01:07:44will listen to us.
01:07:46He has played
01:07:48an important role
01:07:50in the 26th Annual Reform.
01:07:52He was awake all night
01:07:54and held various meetings
01:07:56and passed the 26th Annual Reform.
01:07:58I think he has played
01:08:00an important role in this matter.
01:08:02Thank you so much
01:08:04for your time.
01:08:06Let's take a break here.
01:08:08Stay with us.
01:08:12Stay with us.
01:08:14There is a problem
01:08:16that everyone is worried about.
01:08:18If you are present at a traffic signal,
01:08:20someone will knock on the door
01:08:22and someone will knock on the car door.
01:08:24This problem is everywhere.
01:08:26And if you have a glass somewhere,
01:08:28at times your mobile phone
01:08:30also goes from here to there.
01:08:32These videos are also coming.
01:08:34Then there is a scam to clean
01:08:36the glass of your car.
01:08:38One person cleans it,
01:08:40and the other cleans the glass.
01:08:44Now let's talk about
01:08:46how and where
01:08:48the germs are.
01:08:52But there are many things
01:08:54that we don't pay attention to.
01:08:56During the pandemic,
01:08:58we used to be very careful.
01:09:00We didn't have enough time
01:09:02to sanitize our hands
01:09:04before eating.
01:09:06But after the pandemic,
01:09:08we started paying attention.
01:09:12I was surprised
01:09:14when I was asked
01:09:16where the most germs are.
01:09:18I was asked in a survey
01:09:20where the most germs are.
01:09:22People said that
01:09:24they are in the toilet.
01:09:26They were told that
01:09:28the most germs are
01:09:30on the table in front of you
01:09:32where you eat food.
01:09:34Because the toilets
01:09:36are clean there.
01:09:38But these places
01:09:40are not clean.
01:09:42There are millions of germs there.
01:09:44If you come home,
01:09:46what happens there?
01:09:48I was always concerned
01:09:50about the germs in the door
01:09:52of the washroom.
01:09:54We talk about toothpaste
01:09:56and brush,
01:09:58we should cover it.
01:10:00But there is one more thing
01:10:02when you take a bath,
01:10:04you have to dry your body,
01:10:06face and hair.
01:10:08How much cleanliness
01:10:10is there in that?
01:10:12We take a bath
01:10:14and clean ourselves.
01:10:16But don't you clean
01:10:18the toilet for weeks?
01:10:20There are 10 germs
01:10:22in the toilet.
01:10:24The same thing happens
01:10:26with our pillows.
01:10:28But if you wash your face
01:10:30in the toilet,
01:10:32the same thing happens.
01:10:34A study was done
01:10:36in Britain.
01:10:3833 people
01:10:40wash their toilet
01:10:42only once a month.
01:10:44Oh God!
01:10:46If someone smells
01:10:48the smell of bananas,
01:10:50then you don't need
01:10:52anything else to be unconscious.
01:10:54So you have to clean
01:10:56your toilet.
01:10:58In a survey,
01:11:00it was found that
01:11:02only once a year
01:11:04people wash their toilet.
01:11:06I was thinking
01:11:08why did you do this?
01:11:10Because by that time
01:11:12the toilet would have
01:11:14turned into a tarp
01:11:16and you would have
01:11:18a leather feel.
01:11:20So what are the other
01:11:22issues?
01:11:24Dr. Kash Ahmad Malik
01:11:26But this is a matter of life.
01:11:28So let's focus on this.
01:11:30How are you?
01:11:32How did you like my advice?
01:11:34I am surprised
01:11:36because the toilet
01:11:38is the main storage
01:11:40for germs.
01:11:42Today we will talk about
01:11:44germs warning.
01:11:46You should wash your toilet
01:11:48every 3 days.
01:11:50If it is a hand wash,
01:11:52then wash it once a week.
01:11:54As a skin specialist,
01:11:56there are many cases of scabies.
01:11:58It is a rash on the whole body.
01:12:00People start using different toilets.
01:12:02Fungal infection.
01:12:04Fungal infection.
01:12:06You get teeth and
01:12:08round marks on the body.
01:12:10People start using different toilets.
01:12:12The latest research also shows
01:12:14that there are staphylococcus aureus
01:12:16and E. coli in the toilet.
01:12:18There is a chance of pneumonia
01:12:20and urinary tract infection
01:12:22You have to keep your toilet separate.
01:12:24You have to keep it clean.
01:12:26You have to wash it every 3 days.
01:12:28One thing you have to remember
01:12:30is to use the toilet
01:12:32as soon as the smell is there.
01:12:34Put it in the wash immediately.
01:12:36It may start coming the next day.
01:12:38But if you wash it once a year,
01:12:40do you think it will smell?
01:12:42That is very wrong.
01:12:44It has become a home
01:12:46for all bacteria
01:12:48and germs.
01:12:50It will spread
01:12:52if you touch the toilet.
01:12:54If you don't wash your face,
01:12:56you may get germs in your hands.
01:12:58You may get so many infections
01:13:00that you can't even imagine.
01:13:02There is no point in washing your hands.
01:13:04It is better not to use the toilet.
01:13:06I try to be very careful
01:13:08that if I wash my hands
01:13:10I also wash the tap.
01:13:12I also wash the tap.
01:13:14I close the tap
01:13:16so that germs don't get in.
01:13:18We can't see the germs.
01:13:20They are microscopic.
01:13:22We get a lot of skin infections.
01:13:24Fungal infections,
01:13:26scabies,
01:13:28I am in Murshid Hospital.
01:13:30It is the only hospital in Pakistan
01:13:32which is on the border
01:13:34of Balochistan and Sidh.
01:13:36A lot of patients come there.
01:13:38They live in one house
01:13:40with 20 people.
01:13:42They all use the same toilet.
01:13:44We have to separate the toilet
01:13:46for at least 30 days.
01:13:48One more thing,
01:13:50you also use a surface cleaner.
01:13:52For example,
01:13:54you go to the washroom,
01:13:56you wash your hands,
01:13:58you use the same handle
01:14:00to clean your hands.
01:14:02You also use a surface cleaner
01:14:04to clean your hands.
01:14:06Tell me one thing,
01:14:08this process is not limited to here.
01:14:10This process goes to your bedroom.
01:14:12You have a pillow in your bedroom.
01:14:14This process goes from your dead skin cells
01:14:16to your saliva.
01:14:18Yes, it goes to the pillow covers.
01:14:20People are told to change
01:14:22their pillow covers every week.
01:14:24This causes acne
01:14:26to the younger generation.
01:14:28The opening of mobile phones
01:14:30should also be kept clean.
01:14:32There are germs in everything.
01:14:34We don't see them.
01:14:36We have to clean it properly.
01:14:38We have to use sanitizers.
01:14:40You are right,
01:14:42we are not persistent.
01:14:44You have to make it a habit.
01:14:46You should have a habit
01:14:48that whenever you have a towel,
01:14:50you try to wash it after 3 days.
01:14:52Sunlight plays a big role here.
01:14:54If you dry the towel or clothes in sunlight,
01:14:56you get better results.
01:14:58You can't get rid of germs 100%.
01:15:00But they become very less.
01:15:02There are dangerous germs
01:15:04that can cause big diseases
01:15:06like urinary tract infection and pneumonia.
01:15:08I have told you about scabies and fungal infection.
01:15:10There can also be folliculitis.
01:15:12What is that?
01:15:14It is an inflammation
01:15:16in the root of our hair.
01:15:18It can cause nail infection
01:15:20on the nail
01:15:22as well as
01:15:24on the body.
01:15:26In general,
01:15:28the seeds on the body
01:15:30can also be caused by using a towel.
01:15:32These things are very important.
01:15:34Especially those who sweat a lot
01:15:36have to keep the towel separate
01:15:38and wash it every 3rd day.
01:15:40As a dermatologist,
01:15:42I would advise you to dry the towel in sunlight.
01:15:44You should get sunlight in your house.
01:15:46You should get air.
01:15:48Ventilation is very important.
01:15:50Sunlight is a natural disinfectant
01:15:52that will also improve your towel.
01:15:54We are not talking about 100%.
01:15:56But of course,
01:15:58as much as we can,
01:16:00cleanliness is half the battle.
01:16:02The way you have kept it clean
01:16:04or many people come to me
01:16:06and tell me that
01:16:08it is good to keep it clean.
01:16:10We are talking about a desi environment.
01:16:12When we wash clothes in the washing machine,
01:16:14we have to be careful
01:16:16about how many times
01:16:18we have to wash our hair.
01:16:20Do we get rid of germs?
01:16:22No, not at all.
01:16:24Especially those who have scabies
01:16:26or fungus,
01:16:28they should wash their clothes
01:16:30separately in the washing machine.
01:16:32We tell our patients
01:16:34that they should wash their clothes
01:16:36separately in the washing machine
01:16:38because it gets transmitted.
01:16:40Scabies is one of the fastest
01:16:42infectious diseases in the world.
01:16:44It spreads to the whole body
01:16:46and the whole house gets involved.
01:16:48Sometimes patients come to me
01:16:50from Balochistan or Sindh
01:16:52and the whole neighborhood
01:16:54is infected with scabies.
01:16:56The main reason is that
01:16:58there is a problem of cleanliness
01:17:00and there is a problem of water.
01:17:02We tell our patients
01:17:04that they should either
01:17:06use the washing machine
01:17:08or not.
01:17:10If it is necessary,
01:17:12they should keep it separate
01:17:14and wash it at least three times a day.
01:17:16Cleanliness is very important
01:17:18and sunlight plays an important role in this.
01:17:20Sunlight controls it to a great extent.
01:17:22I always tell my patients
01:17:24that they should eat vitamins
01:17:26or folic acid
01:17:28or fruits and vegetables.
01:17:30These are our best vitamins
01:17:32for the body.
01:17:34They increase our immunity.
01:17:36In winters, the fungus has increased
01:17:38and so has the dandruff.
01:17:40The problem is increasing
01:17:42because of this.
01:17:44You may be surprised to know
01:17:46that cotton towels contain
01:17:48more bacteria.
01:17:50Nylon has more bacteria
01:17:52and we all use cotton.
01:17:54We can't stop using it
01:17:56but we can wash it at least three times a day.
01:17:58That's terrible.
01:18:00Unbelievable.
01:18:02We should check their immune system.
01:18:04They are such brave people.
01:18:06What can we say?
01:18:08Thank you so much,
01:18:10Kashif Malik for your time.
01:18:12It is always good
01:18:14to have a break.
01:18:16We will be back after the break.
01:18:24Dear viewers,
01:18:26you must have seen rice, lentils
01:18:28and other items
01:18:30but today, our representative
01:18:32Ishrat Khan
01:18:34is introducing us to the first
01:18:36Islamic micro-miniature artist
01:18:38who is an expert in making
01:18:40small things beautiful.
01:18:42Let's meet Kasim Rahim,
01:18:44an expert in Islamic micro-miniature art
01:18:46who has been involved
01:18:48in this for the past 28 years.
01:18:50I wanted to bring a new
01:18:52innovation
01:18:54to the world.
01:18:56It is the first time
01:18:58in the history of the world
01:19:00that I have worked
01:19:02with naked eye,
01:19:04watercolour medium
01:19:06and single hair brush.
01:19:08Before this, I have worked
01:19:10with rice or lentils
01:19:12with ink
01:19:14which is a painting, calligraphy
01:19:16or oil colour.
01:19:18Kasim has used
01:19:20painting brushes,
01:19:22sugar, cloves,
01:19:24whole coriander
01:19:26and on its fine branches,
01:19:28he has created
01:19:30calligraphy and other arts
01:19:32with great skill.
01:19:34In our country,
01:19:36at the government level
01:19:38or any other level,
01:19:40art or any other art
01:19:42is not available
01:19:44which is its right.
01:19:46After seeing Kasim's amazing
01:19:48creations, it can be said
01:19:50that there is no right or wrong
01:19:52in this world.
01:19:54It is not easy to create
01:19:56beautiful art on small
01:19:58and fine hair.
01:20:00But Kasim Rahim
01:20:02of Karachi
01:20:04has done this difficult task
01:20:06very easily.
01:20:08With cameraman Muhammad Adnan,
01:20:10Ishat Khan, ARY News, Karachi.
01:20:12There are various celebrations
01:20:14on the occasion of weddings.
01:20:16How did a citizen of Khanewal
01:20:18celebrate his son's wedding?
01:20:48On this occasion,
01:20:50I convey my message to all the people
01:20:52that they should organize more events
01:20:54and invite such people
01:20:56to play this match
01:20:58so that teams can play
01:21:00and become more famous in the country.
01:21:02Shooting ball player Khalid Computer
01:21:04said that if the Punjab government
01:21:06also prioritizes shooting ball
01:21:08like other sports,
01:21:10then we can make our country famous
01:21:12all over the world.
01:21:14It is our game. It is a high level game.
01:21:16First of all, I appeal to the government
01:21:18to promote our game
01:21:20like other games.
01:21:22Shooting ball.
01:21:24After a lot of games,
01:21:26Asman Kala Bukhara won the match.
01:21:28The winning team was given
01:21:30a cash prize and a cup.
01:21:32The citizens applauded the father
01:21:34for making his son's wedding
01:21:36a volleyball match.
01:21:38Cameraman Muhammad Shafiq,
01:21:40camera Sajid Khan,
01:21:42ARY News, Khanewal.
01:21:44He is telling us
01:21:46how mustard oil
01:21:48is extracted there
01:21:50in an old way.
01:22:14He is telling us how mustard oil
01:22:16is extracted there
01:22:18in an old way.
01:22:20He is telling us how mustard oil
01:22:22is extracted there
01:22:24in an old way.
01:22:26He is telling us how mustard oil
01:22:28is extracted there
01:22:30in an old way.
01:22:32He is telling us how mustard oil
01:22:34is extracted there
01:22:36in an old way.
01:22:38He is telling us how mustard oil
01:22:40is extracted there
01:22:42in an old way.
01:22:44He is telling us how mustard oil
01:22:46is extracted there
01:22:48in an old way.
01:22:50He is telling us how mustard oil
01:22:52is extracted there
01:22:54in an old way.
01:22:56He is telling us how mustard oil
01:22:58is extracted there
01:23:00in an old way.
01:23:02He is telling us how mustard oil
01:23:04is extracted there
01:23:06in an old way.
01:23:08He is telling us how mustard oil
01:23:10is extracted there
01:23:12in an old way.
01:23:14He is telling us how mustard oil
01:23:16is extracted there
01:23:18in an old way.
01:23:20He is telling us how mustard oil
01:23:22is extracted there
01:23:24in an old way.
01:23:26He is telling us how mustard oil
01:23:28is extracted there
01:23:30in an old way.
01:23:32He is telling us how mustard oil
01:23:34is extracted there
01:23:36in an old way.
01:23:40Music.
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01:23:46Music.
01:23:48Music.