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00:00European Defence without the US?
00:02Yeah, but that means that you have European Defence without the US being involved.
00:06That's what you're saying.
00:07That is a NATO or whatever the organisation is then called without the US.
00:10For many reasons that will not work.
00:12First of all, because we are not, as the Prime Minister was saying, as Keir Starmer was saying,
00:17when you look at Ukraine, it is not just Ukraine and Russia, which would be bad enough.
00:22It is a geopolitical thing which is going on.
00:24The US realises that.
00:26European side of NATO realises that.
00:28It is China, North Korea, Iran, all getting connected to Russia.
00:32So this is a geopolitical thing playing out at the moment with Ukraine.
00:38And therefore Ukraine must prevail, not only for Ukraine's sake, first of all,
00:42but also because of the geopolitical impact.
00:44And for NATO as a whole, collectively, we are 20 times bigger than the Russian economy.
00:51Collectively, we are able to protect the collective NATO territory, including the US.
00:57And the US is also under threat now with the nuclear long-range missiles coming out of North Korea,
01:05maybe in the future, thanks to all the technology the Russians are delivering.
01:08So for so many reasons, we have to stay connected.
01:12I am a staunch transatlanticist.
01:14I absolutely believe that the best thing the West can do is to stay united.
01:20And I know that the same thinking is still prevalent in the US, including in the White House.