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00:00The mistake was that after coming to power, they started giving liquor licences and liquor shops.
00:09Liquor is a way to destroy the society.
00:14That's why in our village, there was a liquor bar.
00:18Today, it's been 22 years.
00:2122 years.
00:23In any shop, there is no cigarette, cigarette, khaini for sale.
00:28The people who came to politics,
00:31we used to think about the society from the beginning,
00:34but when they came to politics,
00:36they started thinking about money, liquor, shops.
00:41That's wrong.
00:42Even before, they used to say,
00:44I will not change the small room that I live in.
00:49I will live in my room all my life.
00:52And later, I heard,
00:56This is a mistake.
00:58I am 90 years old.
01:00According to that, I could have built any school.
01:05Even now, I have a gold bed and a plate to eat.
01:09Nothing else.
01:11They didn't understand this.
01:13Where is the happiness?
01:15Happiness is not outside.
01:19Happiness is inside.
01:21The more you work for the society,
01:24the more you get happiness from within.
01:27What I have told you,
01:29the mistake that I made was this.
01:33After coming to power,
01:37I started giving licenses for liquor.
01:42I started giving liquor contracts.
01:46There is a child in the first class.
01:52If you ask him about liquor, he will say bad things.
01:57And now, you are giving liquor contracts.
02:03You are giving licenses to drink liquor.
02:07Liquor is a way to destroy the society.
02:13That's why, in our village,
02:17there was a liquor bar.
02:20Today, it's been 22 years.
02:24For 22 years,
02:26in any shop,
02:28cigarettes, cigarettes,
02:30are not for sale.
02:32This is our business.
02:34It is necessary for the society and the country.
02:38So, Arvind Kejriwal's liquor policy was his biggest mistake?
02:42Arvind Kejriwal's liquor policy was his biggest mistake?
02:47Arvind Kejriwal's biggest mistake was this?
02:50Yes.
02:53Earlier, he was with us.
02:56He didn't like liquor.
02:59He came to power.
03:01Liquor contracts,
03:03liquor licenses.
03:05Licenses are not the same.
03:09After coming to power,
03:11many people took out licenses.
03:13And many shops were opened.
03:16So, what's the use of having so much liquor?
03:19It doesn't happen at one place.
03:22It starts at many places.
03:25That's why I don't like it.
03:28This is a mistake.
03:30Annaji, the people's movement that you started,
03:34Arvind Kejriwal was with you.
03:36There were many other leaders.
03:38There were many other social activists
03:40in your people's movement in 2012-2013.
03:43After that, they came into politics.
03:46You think that politics...
03:48Whenever there was talk that politics is mud,
03:51that we shouldn't go into politics,
03:53now they have come back.
03:55They are on the back foot.
03:57So, what would you say to the youth
03:59who are associated with that party?
04:02What would you say to the youth
04:04who are associated with politics
04:06in the people's movement in 2012-2013?
04:08I don't believe that politics is bad now.
04:14Many people are good in politics.
04:20And in politics,
04:22many people think about society and the country.
04:26If they think about the country,
04:28what's wrong with that?
04:30The people who come into politics,
04:36we used to think about the society from the beginning.
04:39But they came into politics
04:41and started thinking about money, liquor, shops.
04:46That's wrong.
04:48We should maintain our old policy
04:53that we won't say bad things about liquor.
05:00We shouldn't run after money.
05:03After your movement,
05:05they made a party for common people.
05:08What do you think about that?
05:13They said that their party is for common people.
05:18After your movement,
05:20they made a party for common people.
05:22After that, they have a house in Delhi,
05:24which is called Shish Mahal,
05:26which is in a lot of talk.
05:28They are accused of living a luxurious life.
05:31What would you say about that?
05:35This is a mistake.
05:39Earlier, they used to say,
05:42I won't change my room.
05:47I will live in my room all my life.
05:51And later,
05:53I heard that they made Shish Mahal.
05:57This is a mistake.
06:01It's been 90 years.
06:04According to that,
06:06I could have made any Shish Mahal.
06:10Even now, I have a gold bed,
06:12and a plate to eat.
06:14Nothing else.
06:16But I experience it in my life.
06:19There is so much happiness in life.
06:23Even a millionaire doesn't get it.
06:27They don't understand this.
06:29Where is the happiness?
06:31Happiness is not from outside.
06:34Happiness is from within.
06:37The more you work for the society,
06:40the more happiness you get from within.
06:43The satisfaction on the other person's face,
06:46the satisfaction on the other person's face,
06:49that is our happiness.
06:51The satisfaction on the faces of people
06:54who are sad, who are suffering,
06:57that is our happiness.
06:59They don't understand this.
07:02This is the reason for the mistake.
07:05If they had understood this,
07:08they would never have thought,
07:11I will not make Shish Mahal.
07:15I will live in my broken room.
07:21And that happiness
07:23that came from before,
07:25it continues.
07:27There is a difference in that.
07:29Anna, I had a question.
07:31When your movement started,
07:33when you were in Ramleela Maidan,
07:35in Mumbai,
07:37after that, many youth
07:39joined the party along with the movement.
07:42They joined the Aam Aadmi Party.
07:45They are still in the party.
07:47What would you say to those youth?
07:49Should they leave the political party
07:51or should they move forward?
07:54In the party, I have said before,
07:57don't look at the fault.
08:01All the parties are at fault.
08:06They are not right.
08:08Don't say that.
08:10Many people think of the society and the country
08:12and leave the party.
08:14Let them do it.
08:16If the society and the country do it for the betterment,
08:18then do it.
08:20If they do it for the betterment of the society and the country,
08:23and for their own benefit,
08:25and harm the country,
08:28that is wrong.
08:30If they harm the society,
08:32that is wrong.
08:36For the betterment of the society,
08:38for the betterment of the country,
08:40this is our aim.
08:42I am not saying anything bad
08:45or good about anyone.
08:48I have dedicated my entire life to this.
08:51My entire life.
08:53When I was 17 years old,
08:56I saw that
08:58by getting married,
09:00I would not be able to serve the society.
09:03So, at the age of 17,
09:06I decided not to get married.
09:09It has been 90 years now.
09:12The same people,
09:14the same people,
09:16it has been 90 years,
09:18the same people.
09:20Even today, at the age of 90,
09:22I feel so happy.
09:24I feel so happy.
09:26This did not occur to them.
09:29They made a mistake.
09:32My last question, Anna.
09:34He became a politician
09:36because of your movement.
09:38He became a politician because of your movement.
09:41Do you think that
09:43Arvind Kejriwal used this movement
09:46to make his own politics?
09:48No, I cannot say that.
09:50When I did not see him,
09:52before he left for the party,
09:55I went away from him.
09:57I never went to him again.
10:00Then what he did,
10:02how he did it,
10:04I do not know.
10:06The day
10:08he left us,
10:11I got separated from him.
10:14Since he left the party,
10:16I have been with him.
10:19I never went to him again.
10:22The party and the party,
10:24today in our country,
10:26many parties and parties
10:28do a very good job.
10:30We cannot deny this.
10:33But, the big benefits
10:36are the party and the party.
10:39Money and power,
10:41money and power,
10:43they run behind this.
10:45Money and power,
10:47money and power.
10:49What will you do for money?
10:52Think about the society,
10:54not the country.
10:56Is the BJP, the BJP,
10:58the BJP, the BJP,
11:00the BJP, the BJP,
11:02the BJP, the BJP,
11:04the BJP, the BJP,
11:06the BJP, the BJP,
11:08whether good or bad,
11:10the society decides.
11:12If they do good for the society,
11:14then you say they do good work.
11:19I do not look at them
11:21as a party or a party.
11:23I go away from them.
11:26I ask one last question, Anna.
11:28I am sorry, I am taking a lot of time.
11:30One last question is that
11:32the common man is in the party,
11:35or Kizhriwal is there,
11:37he must be in such a situation
11:39that he will have to lose.
11:41Have you ever thought about it?
11:43Have you ever thought that
11:45he will have to lose?
11:47No, no, I have to think.
11:49Have you ever thought that
11:51he will be accused of corruption,
11:53he will have to go to jail?
11:55This is what makes me sad.
11:57I had with me,
11:59he was a very surprising person,
12:01a young man,
12:03he was coming for the
12:05first time,
12:07he came.
12:09I had a lot of solace in that.
12:11But when this
12:13alcohol and all these things
12:15came,
12:17then I became sad.
12:19Then I left.