La modelo y empresaria Wanda Nara ha declarado ante el fiscal Juan Rosas, encargado de investigar una red de juegos clandestinos en Argentina. Nara está acusada de infringir el artículo 301 bis, que prevé entre tres y seis años de prisión. La noticia ha generado un amplio debate sobre la legalidad del juego online en Argentina y las implicaciones para figuras públicas que promocionan estas actividades.
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00:00Just the details of the statement, Luis Ventura has them.
00:04Flor, let's go to you.
00:07Yes, Marina. About 15 minutes ago, Wanda Nara withdrew from the place.
00:11Her statement lasted another 20 minutes before the prosecutor, Juan Rosas,
00:15who is in charge of investigating this network of clandestine games.
00:19That's how he declares it.
00:21He withdrew from the same place he had entered, but very quickly.
00:24That's why none of the media we were waiting for his departure
00:28was able to capture the image.
00:30Because it was in an instant that he withdrew.
00:32With the same truck, the windows were raised as he had entered.
00:36The lawyers withdrew from another sector.
00:38But yes, indeed, Wanda Nara declared in front of the prosecutor.
00:42We'll see how the case continues, for which she is denounced.
00:46Perfect, yes. Denounced and sued.
00:48Accused of infringing Article 301bis.
00:51That's right, sued.
00:52Perfect.
00:53Article 301bis, which provides up to three and six years in prison, approximately.
00:57So we'll see how it continues and the details of the statement, right?
01:01In front of this prosecutor, Rosas, who is in charge of investigating.
01:03Look, Flor, you hit the nail on the head.
01:05Because Luis Ventura has the details of the statement and exclusively.
01:10Who else?
01:11Luis, tell us what Wanda said in these 20 minutes.
01:14Well, she declared in front of the prosecutor that the company
01:18for which she was hired is legal abroad.
01:22That they hired her, precisely abroad.
01:25There's the strategy, Luis.
01:26That her Instagram account is, let's say, international.
01:31And that her base of followers is not only Argentine, but international.
01:36Well, you know, she has to have shown.
01:38There's a price, huh?
01:39No, she has to show an international contract.
01:41Yes.
01:42Well, she signed it.
01:43She signed it abroad, according to what she declared.
01:46Be careful, it could be an effective strategy, huh?
01:48I tell you that as a strategy it is good, because if she manages to show that there is a contract
01:54signed abroad, where this company is legal.
01:57It is true that her base of followers is not exclusively Argentine.
02:01Luis, you know this.
02:02It's Italy.
02:03It's a good part of Europe.
02:04There must have been an advice there.
02:06I don't think that Wanda, at this point in the party, having signed
02:10multimillionaire contracts with clubs and all this, has not been legally advised.
02:15The proof is that she was still uploading stories after the imputation.
02:19Very well.
02:20I don't know why she had this letter under her sleeve and why it is also the way of saying,
02:25look, I'm still uploading stories because what I'm doing is illegal in the country where I signed the contract.
02:30I think, Marina, Luis, to put myself a little bit in the devil's lawyer,
02:33think a little bit about the accusation.
02:35Let's see.
02:36If you publish and the link has access from the country, you are somehow allowing
02:42someone from Argentina to be part or you encourage someone to enter a betting house
02:49in the country.
02:50Yes, it's true.
02:51The company will be legal in other countries, but not here.
02:54And if you also have followers from Argentina.
02:57But apart, Marina, if you can enter.
02:59I'm here.
03:00I look at Wanda because I love what she does.
03:02It's not my case.
03:03It's the thing we've come to find out.
03:05I look at Wanda because I love what she does.
03:07I look at her.
03:08I look at her.
03:09No, no, because it's not my case.
03:10I say no.
03:11But I look at Wanda and I can, from Argentina, Buenos Aires or Cordoba,
03:17I click and I enter.
03:19The casino is authorized to operate in Argentina.
03:22I'm going to tell you, because at some point last year I gave up my condition
03:26as a coach of a club, precisely on the pretext of clandestine bets.
03:30There I found out.
03:32How well you did, Luis.
03:33Yes.
03:34Then I came back.
03:35How well you did.
03:36When I disarticulated the movement, I came back.
03:38But in the media I investigated.
03:41You know, even if it seems like a lie, that Argentina is the reason for the game,
03:47for example, from Russia.
03:49And do you know what they bet on?
03:51What do they bet on?
03:52On the sides, on the corners, on the penalties.
03:54Yes, of course.
03:55But not on the first divisions.
03:56No, of course.
03:57On the lower divisions, on the rise.
03:59Categories, first C, first B.
04:01Where does a result come out?
04:03Where do the infractions that were committed come out?
04:05The goals, the non-goals, the penalties.
04:07All of that is part of what is betting abroad,
04:10where millions and millions of dollars and euros are mobilized.
04:14Did the Sprint issue remain in something?
04:16No, no, no.
04:17That is the influencer who entered the field for less than a minute.
04:20No.
04:21And that, well, there was suspicion in relation to whether the move had been made to generate bets, right?
04:26Look, Marina, the Sprint case is perhaps the most emblematic,
04:29the one that has had the most repercussions, the one that has generated the most rebounds in the media.
04:34There are many cases, even in regional tournaments in Argentina.
04:38As Luis said.
04:39Because there is a question that is basic, common sense.
04:43If you bet there, because the protagonists earn little money,
04:48then it is much easier to corrupt the system.
04:54It is much easier to convince the protagonist.
04:57Convince a player, a coach, of course.
05:00Because they do not live from football, because they have to live from something else.
05:03They are going to kill.
05:04Because they have really low incomes and because it is very easy to seduce them from that place.
05:08Well, if there is no love for the shirt, then no.
05:10No.
05:11No, no, no.
05:12I think I say it for the first time publicly.
05:16They came to me to talk about people, investors,
05:20from places that have nothing to do with Argentina.
05:23One, from people who put the money from Russia.
05:25People who bet, Luis.
05:27And also people who came from Chile on two different proposals.
05:32What did they ask you, Luis?
05:33A number of games.
05:34Do what they wanted.
05:36Of course.
05:37That in the second play, a defender of yours kicks another.
05:42Or generate three corners in a row before the ten minutes.
05:45Or that they kick you in one before the five minutes.
05:47An expulsion before the five minutes.
05:48So you were offered, do you believe that this happens in football?
05:52Sorry, I also have witnesses, because I did not want to go alone.
05:55I have witnesses who heard the proposal, how it arrived and everything.
05:58But at this point, what do you do?
06:00In the middle of nowhere, in the middle of minimum wages,
06:04with players who, of course, have to have the job that the street bird gives you.
06:09I insist, I insist to go back to Wanda,
06:12that she does not understand the strategy.
06:15Who is the lawyer?
06:16Bayarola.
06:17Bayarola.
06:18I understand the strategy of Dr. Bayarola,
06:20which is to say, hey, look, I signed a contract with a ...
06:22Now, if I, from Argentina, could bet and that casino was not registered in Argentina,
06:29you are promoting something that is illegal.
06:31Except, I say, I think, it seems to me that it did not happen,
06:34that you put a legend of the type,
06:36non-valid advertising for the Argentine territory.
06:39But in the case of Wanda it is credible.
06:41You said that sometimes it happens, non-valid promotion for Cordoba, Barrio Negro.
06:43Totally.
06:44But it did not happen.
06:45In the case of Wanda it is much more credible than the rest.
06:47Because, for example, there are national figures,
06:50where maybe they do not have international flights.
06:54For example, I do not know, I do not want to put Morena Real,
06:59but it has, let's say, a national consumption.
07:02You cannot argue that abroad,
07:04because it does not have an international consagration,
07:08then it exposes you much more.
07:10The argument can be used.
07:11Wanda, in the best of elegant cases, should be seen.
07:15And anyway, if they do not do the safety
07:17that this advertising is not valid for Argentina,
07:20I share with Facundo that there the argument becomes a little weaker.
07:24That's weird, right?
07:25There is something that ...
07:26Strategy to the end anyway, right?
07:27Yes.
07:28He found the way around, Pallarola.
07:29He found the way around.
07:30Yes, there is something to take into account.
07:31For example, if you are going to China,
07:34you cannot enter certain search engines.
07:36Well, of course.
07:37Then I say, why?
07:38Because there is a decision of the state,
07:40I question it or not, so that it does not happen.
07:42You can not enter Amazon.
07:44Exactly.
07:45It happens, Horacio, a lot with the legal issue.
07:48Sometimes you go to another country,
07:50you want to see a football game, you get on a website.
07:52You can not do it.
07:53It is not.
07:54With which one understands that if she was promoting a link
07:57that did not clarify, as Marina says,
07:59that that casino is not authorized in Argentina or something,
08:02I say, was he promoting a game?
08:04Yes.
08:05At least not registered.
08:06They want to get the word illegal.
08:08No, but it's illegal.
08:09But it's illegal.
08:10It's illegal.
08:12The gambling game involves a specific registration.
08:15That market is not unregulated.
08:17Now, Luis, here the risk is the processing.
08:20Payarola clarified to you what are the deadlines that the judge has
08:23to determine whether to process it or not.
08:25No, no.
08:26Now it's going to be, let's say, a meeting
08:28to propose the strategy to follow,
08:30from which the risks will be seen,
08:32as far as yes, as far as no.
08:34Here, what is the problem of Wanda?
08:36The problem of Wanda, the summation of cases.
08:39Very important.
08:40So, the multiplicity of lawyers, of causes, of arguments,
08:44if you say this for a certain court,
08:47what do you say in the other.
08:49Because maybe it overlaps and contradicts
08:52many of the statements you have to make.
08:54Yes, and the case of Elegante,
08:56because among the photos that we see is the one of Elegante,
08:59who also followed the same strategy as Wanda,
09:01which is to continue raising promotions,
09:03advertisements, even after the imputation.
09:06The lawyer is the same, it is Payarola and Raport.
09:08Of course, but here there is a, here, attention,
09:11here there is a, let's say, an asterisk.
09:15Elegante has a three-year sentence already.
09:19With ten more minutes that they sentence him for something,
09:22he is stuck, even if it is a small thing.
09:25Totally, and he has three more cases in progress.
09:27Beyond the fact that they made him a price with that sentence,
09:30when they removed the charge of illegitimate deprivation of freedom,
09:33for me they made him a counter-price.
09:35Elegante has pending processes,
09:37which are very complicated, like the case of Morena,
09:39which of course has its situation of theft in Villa del Ina.