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On the first episode of the second season of Rap, Rock and all the Jazz, Yousra and Leslie discuss The Beatles legendary album Abbey Road. There are conspiracies and milestones associated with this album and they cover them all.

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00:00Hi everybody and welcome to season 2 of Rap, Rock and All That Jazz.
00:14Oh my god it's been forever.
00:16My name is Yusra and you are?
00:19Leslie Wilson and it's great to be back Yusra.
00:21Yeah.
00:22Wow.
00:23We took a break.
00:24Yeah.
00:25To be honest it wasn't on purpose.
00:26Things got very busy.
00:27A bit of summer holidays, a bit of you know things you know but it's awesome to be back
00:32Yusra.
00:33Yes.
00:34And let's just remind our friends out there who we are, why we're doing this.
00:37Anyway in case you guys don't know this show is dedicated to music.
00:42Both Yusra and me have a lot in common besides the obvious things we're both good looking.
00:48But we love, we're both journalists, we both work in the Gulf News, the number one English
00:53language newspaper in the Middle East and we both love music.
00:56We love it so much.
00:57Yes.
00:58Yeah.
00:59But we love different kinds of music.
01:00Yeah.
01:01Which people have like you know grown to see if you've watched our previous episodes.
01:05And that's what I really love about it you know.
01:08Yeah.
01:09We're so different but yeah we like talk about stuff.
01:12I don't know.
01:13It's good.
01:14And what an episode to come back with.
01:17It is the 50th anniversary of Abbey Road.
01:21Yes.
01:22It's an amazing subject to be discussing today.
01:25I hope you guys have fun listening to us.
01:26I'm sure they will.
01:27I mean we're really going to go back in time.
01:28We're going to go back 50 years.
01:30Okay.
01:31So tell me because look I hate to admit this like a lot of people my age go like yeah I'm
01:36a Beatles fan.
01:37I love all their songs.
01:38And I get it.
01:40They're good but I don't sit and actively listen to them.
01:43So educate me.
01:45Okay.
01:46I would say the Beatles are probably the greatest band that ever existed.
01:51Okay.
01:52For many reasons Yusra.
01:54It's not just my personal opinion.
01:56Of course I grew up I was a kid when the Beatles were around.
02:00They had a short career.
02:01They just recorded for about nine years.
02:04They made just 11 albums.
02:06But those 11 albums the impact it had on the music world was like nothing else.
02:11All right.
02:12Okay.
02:13Today you talk about Ed Sheeran, George Michael, Elton John, you know guys and you always refer
02:20to them by both names.
02:22But not with these Beatles.
02:23Yeah.
02:24They were just known by John, Paul, George and Ringo.
02:27Yeah.
02:28They were that famous.
02:29You mentioned these names and everybody knew who you're talking about.
02:33So that's how iconic they were.
02:35So who's still alive?
02:37Unfortunately Lennon was shot by a crazy fan.
02:40Yes.
02:41And George Harrison died a couple of years ago.
02:43All right.
02:44So we've got just Paul McCartney the bass guitarist and Ringo Starr still alive.
02:48Nice.
02:49And of course they don't the Beatles disbanded in 1969.
02:54So I heard that they were recording Abbey Road and while they were doing that there
02:58was a lot of like clashing and problems and that's when they started breaking up.
03:03Yeah.
03:04I think I think the band they'd done everything they could musically.
03:08You know the canvases that they painted were beautiful.
03:12They did folk.
03:13They did rock.
03:14They did a groundbreaking album called Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band which you
03:19know created a war between old music and new music.
03:23And I think John Lennon particularly had fallen out of love with the band.
03:27He was he'd met a woman called Yoko Ono who influenced his thinking his whole psyche.
03:33And he had already informed Paul and George and Ringo that he was going to leave the band.
03:39So there was it was against his background that they would record their perhaps best
03:44album of all time.
03:46Yes.
03:47So ironic is that isn't it.
03:48You told me to check out Abbey Road before this before this episode.
03:53So I saw and I listened through the whole album and it's very nice.
03:56Like I have to say like I understand why people really love it and we have some stats here.
04:01So basically they have 1.7 billion streams on Spotify which is my music go to.
04:09And the funny thing is it's not baby boomers or Beatlemania fans.
04:14It's teenagers.
04:15So people who are even younger than me they're sitting in there like downloading and listening
04:20to Beatles songs and they influence pop culture in a really big way.
04:24I mean there's that movie called Yesterday.
04:26I don't know if you've heard of it.
04:28Yeah that's right.
04:29It really literally got released this year of a guy who lives in a world where the Beatles
04:34didn't exist.
04:35That's right.
04:36Only he knew.
04:37And I feel like that also maybe raised some more awareness with the younger people about
04:41about the Beatles.
04:43So tell me more.
04:44I think it's kind of a hereditary kind of thing.
04:47You know you listen to your dad your mom your your uncles your grandfathers playing this
04:51music.
04:52I think it all waters down it trickles down.
04:54And that's how youngsters get influenced today.
04:56I mean they decide I mean of course they like their Ed Sheeran's and you know their Drake's
05:01etc.
05:02But they also like to go back in time and find out what happened in the music world
05:06before they were born.
05:08I actually have a Spotify playlist called Before You Were Born and all of the 80s songs
05:14are in it.
05:15Oh that's nice.
05:16That's awesome.
05:17Yeah.
05:18So let's go back to Abbey Road.
05:19I mean there's so much to talk about.
05:21I mean I hope we have enough time guys but we try to put it all in together.
05:27Of course it's named after a road.
05:29I mean an album named after a road in North London.
05:33And it's the most visited road pedestrian crossing which is also known as the Beatles
05:39crossover.
05:40OK.
05:41So where.
05:42How do you get there.
05:43Can you get there by tube.
05:44You could get there.
05:45There's a tube station very close by.
05:47So it's very accessible and it's just outside the Abbey Road studios which were owned by
05:53Apple Records.
05:54Yes.
05:55One of the most defining studios that still exists today.
05:59And many an artist would love to have gone there and said I went to record in Abbey Road.
06:04It's got so much of significance in the music world today.
06:08And what about the myths of the Abbey Road cover.
06:10You know about that don't you.
06:12Some people say that John Lennon is floating in the photo.
06:19So they say the photo was taken after he died.
06:21No it's Paul actually.
06:22Paul McCartney.
06:23Oh Paul.
06:24Paul is floating.
06:25Paul is floating.
06:26So basically there are these four guys.
06:28Yes.
06:29The Beatles.
06:30John.
06:31Yeah.
06:32Ringo.
06:33Paul.
06:34And George Harrison walking across this road in the cover.
06:35And the guy who shot this picture was given just five shots.
06:39Those days there were no motor drives and the old cameras.
06:42He had just five times suppressor shutter and then he was shooed off.
06:46So anyway you've got John Lennon wearing a white suit which considered you know the conspiracy
06:52theorists and those who read between the lines and all things.
06:56It's very heavenly.
06:57And Ringo is in all black so he's the undertaker.
07:02And George Harrison who brings up the quartet is in denim a ragged ruffed.
07:07So he's a grave digger.
07:08And the third guy Paul McCartney is barefoot.
07:11The fourth guy.
07:12Barefoot.
07:13On the cover.
07:14Yeah.
07:15They're all wearing these.
07:16And so it's supposed to signify that actually he's dead.
07:19And this was a stand in for him.
07:21Because Paul McCartney is a left handed bass player.
07:24He did everything left handed.
07:26But in this particular picture he's got a cigarette in his right hand.
07:30So people said it's not him.
07:34It's a stand in.
07:35And Paul was actually dead.
07:37But we see.
07:38And there's a beetle.
07:39Sorry.
07:40And there's a beetle.
07:41A little car beetle.
07:42Yeah.
07:43In the background in the photograph which has 28 IF.
07:46The number plate.
07:4728 signifies Paul's age.
07:49OK.
07:50If he was alive.
07:53So you know you can read into so many things about this cover.
07:56Paul is alive today though.
07:58Or do you feel like that's his stand in?
08:01No.
08:02He's still very much Paul.
08:03You can.
08:04People are so crazy.
08:05Yeah.
08:06Because I mean soon after that his career didn't collapse when the Beatles broke.
08:09No.
08:10He made some of the even better music.
08:11He formed a band called Wings with his wife, ex-wife who's no more, Linda McCartney.
08:16Yes.
08:17And he made a very good album called Band on the Run.
08:20OK.
08:21And I was a kid.
08:22I used to walk around very proudly as a proud owner of this vinyl disc, you know.
08:25Oh, nice.
08:26It's a great album.
08:27A lot of people would still be listening to this song called Band on the Run.
08:32OK.
08:33I mean I know his daughter.
08:34I mean I don't know her.
08:35But I know of Stella McCartney.
08:38She's a designer.
08:39Awesome designer.
08:40Just that.
08:41Yeah.
08:42Very successful I think.
08:43And her stuff is so beautiful.
08:44And women love wearing it.
08:46And I have my eye on one of her bags.
08:49So I hope that I can.
08:50She works for the House of Gucci, right?
08:52She works for Stella McCartney.
08:54She has her own label.
08:55Yeah.
08:56So very cool.
08:57You know, tennis clothing is all Stella McCartney's clothes.
09:01Yes.
09:02She collaborated with Adidas.
09:04Yeah.
09:05It's very nice.
09:06I really want to get one of her tiny little bags.
09:08Yeah.
09:09Absolutely.
09:10We'll see.
09:11I'm going to London next month.
09:12OK.
09:13So I will try and find Abbey Road.
09:14Yeah.
09:15Do you think it'll be easy to get a photo?
09:16Because.
09:17Of course it is.
09:18Of course.
09:20It's.
09:21It's.
09:22It's.
09:23It's.
09:24It's.
09:25It's very doable.
09:26It's something.
09:27Don't come back from London without that photograph.
09:28You really treasure it for the rest of your life.
09:29OK.
09:30OK.
09:31And of course, why not holding your Stella McCartney bag?
09:32Ah!
09:33And crossing the road with that bag.
09:34Let's see.
09:35That's the ultimate.
09:36It's a little bit of an investment.
09:37So I'm going to think about buying it.
09:38Yeah.
09:39So Yusra, what are the songs.
09:40You said you listen to the album.
09:42What's the song that's stuck in your mind?
09:45Here Comes the Sun.
09:46So beautiful.
09:47That is an amazing song.
09:49Yeah.
09:50It's like how they play it.
09:51I've heard it in so many films.
09:52I actually never connected the dots to know that this was The Beatles, so I was pleasantly
09:56surprised when I heard it while I was streaming the album.
09:59Yeah.
10:00You know, I mean, it's written by, written and sung by George Harrison, who till then,
10:05he was kind of the quieter Beatle.
10:08It was mostly Lennon and McCartney who did all the writing.
10:11So he suddenly emerged as a huge talent.
10:14And he wrote, penned the two most beautiful songs on the album.
10:18Here Comes the Sun, which was recorded in his friend Eric Clapton's garden.
10:22So he had a busy day overhead, a lot of meetings, et cetera.
10:26So he took his acoustic guitar, went into Eric Clapton's garden, sat there amongst all
10:30the flowers and looked around at the beautiful world and wrote Here Comes the Sun.
10:34Lovely.
10:35What an iconic song it was.
10:37And the other song that he wrote was called Something, one of the most defining ballads
10:42of our time.
10:43Oh, really?
10:44It's a song that, you know, Frank Sinatra, you know, one of the legendary Broadway singers,
10:50he never forgets to sing and even described it as the most beautiful song ever written.
10:56Oh, wow.
10:57I'm going to, I speak too much today, guys, because I'm so into it.
11:00No, it's great.
11:01But I've just got one more thing to say about this song called, like, Something, which you
11:04probably heard.
11:05It's inspired by two things.
11:08There's another singer called James Taylor, who wrote a beautiful love song called Something
11:13and the Way She Moves.
11:15So Paul McCartney liked this song.
11:18Yeah.
11:19And he also liked a lady called.
11:21Yoko.
11:22No, that's John Lennon's wife.
11:24Oh, sorry.
11:25Paul McCartney.
11:26Linda.
11:27No, that's later.
11:28OK.
11:29I don't know anything.
11:30Tell me.
11:31Anyway, he was so inspired.
11:33He wrote, he wrote this lovely song, like, like all songs, love songs, you got to sing
11:39it from deep within.
11:40So what did he write?
11:41And for who?
11:42Something.
11:43This is getting juicy.
11:45Tell me something.
11:48Both Eric Clapton and Paul McCartney wrote two of their best ballads.
11:52About women.
11:53About women.
11:54Layla.
11:55No, that's somebody else.
11:56Wonderful Tonight.
11:57OK.
11:58Yeah.
11:59Who's this?
12:00Patti Boyd.
12:01She's a model and a photographer from the from the 60s.
12:06Right.
12:07So she was the inspiration behind the song.
12:09Oh, that's sweet.
12:10Yeah.
12:11Did they ever get together?
12:12They were.
12:13They were dating.
12:14And then Eric Clapton also dated her.
12:15And he also was inspired to write Wonderful Night.
12:18She must have been some woman.
12:19So you guys have a lot of influence on people's emotions and the artistic skills.
12:25Us women.
12:26Yeah.
12:27Lovely.
12:28So it's a lovely eclectic album, you know.
12:29It's very much, in my opinion, a Paul McCartney album, because Side A, as we used to call
12:35it those days because of vinyl, you know, vinyl, yeah, Side A.
12:40It has six lovely songs.
12:43And then Side B is basically a medley of songs, a beautiful, blissful medley of songs.
12:50And you could get a hint at the last song where McCartney sings, and in the end, the
12:54love you give is the one you take away.
12:57So it's brilliant.
12:58So true.
12:59It's like so it's so final, you know, that sounds so final.
13:03Yeah.
13:04Yeah.
13:05And that's the last we heard of the Beatles after that, although Let It Be was released
13:08later.
13:09Yes.
13:11They released another album after Abbey Road, but that was recorded earlier.
13:16So Abbey Road was actually the last album they recorded together as a group right before
13:21they broke up.
13:22So what do you have to say about people who think Yoko Ono broke the Beatles up?
13:29I kind of agree with that theory, because, I mean, she had such a massive influence on
13:34Lennon.
13:35I mean, and Lennon and McCartney were like Simon and Garfunkel, you know, they were inseparable.
13:41They were peas in a pod.
13:42Yeah.
13:43They were friends from school, weren't they?
13:44From school.
13:45Yeah.
13:46And suddenly they started to fight over loyalties.
13:47They fought over songs.
13:48There's a song in Abbey Road called Oh Darling, which John Lennon wanted to sing.
13:53But McCartney said, you don't have the pitch for that.
13:56And he wanted to sing it because it's a real belter, Yusra.
14:00So they were fighting.
14:01They never did this before.
14:02The Beatles never fought before.
14:05And Yoko Ono obviously had a massive influence on Lennon.
14:10As you can see, their famous bed-in, you know, where they became very, they protested against
14:15cruelty.
14:16And, of course, she would inspire him to write probably the greatest song ever written.
14:21Imagine.
14:22Imagine.
14:23Oh, I love that song.
14:24That's heaven on earth, that song, isn't it?
14:25That's so beautiful.
14:26Yeah.
14:27OK.
14:28Trivia time.
14:29OK.
14:30Hit me.
14:31Why did they choose the name The Beatles?
14:37Does it have to do with the car or the insect?
14:40The second half is the second half of the answer is great.
14:44The insects.
14:45OK.
14:46So maybe they picked the name The Beatles because they saw four beetles.
14:51I don't know.
14:53That's cute.
14:54That's really nice.
14:55OK.
14:56Basically, the story goes that they were in the 50s, there was a band called Buddy Holly
14:59and the Crickets.
15:00Oh, OK.
15:01And Buddy Holly is the guy who, his plane crashed and he died in 1958.
15:06And another singer, Don McLean, wrote a song called American Pie about Buddy Holly.
15:11So anyway, coming back to The Beatles, they were so influenced by this band and his name,
15:16the band's name was Buddy Holly and the Crickets.
15:18Yeah.
15:19So they also wanted to call themselves after an insect.
15:21A bug.
15:22OK.
15:23Yeah, an insect.
15:24So they're like The Beatles.
15:25And that's how they settled on The Beatles.
15:26Very nice name.
15:27A bit weird, but I mean, it sticks in the mind.
15:28It works.
15:29It works.
15:31Any more trivia?
15:32This is fun.
15:33So, yeah, I think, you know, The Beatles are a band that every youngster out there should
15:39should get get involved and get trying to listen to that, find out.
15:42Because the way the the templates that they laid down for the future artists, I mean,
15:47like Elvis Presley did, Michael Jackson would do later in life, you know, I can't remember.
15:52I can't think of many people right now out there.
15:55But perhaps Adele is somebody who will inspire a lot of young people to, you know, real songstresses,
16:03you know.
16:04I mean, you've got the cute little girls, the, you know, Ariana Grande's and all that.
16:08Yeah.
16:09Yeah.
16:10I mean, I would I call that more like surface level music.
16:14That's right.
16:15It's not.
16:16And The Beatles definitely were never surface level.
16:18No, I think they really thought about the stuff they put out there.
16:21Yeah.
16:22And I know a lot of people, I mean, who still think The Beatles were cheesy.
16:26Yeah.
16:27Because but that was a time, you know, I want to hold your hand.
16:30Yeah.
16:31Yeah.
16:32But all about 60s.
16:33Right.
16:34That's right.
16:35It was fun music.
16:36It was bubble gum music.
16:37It was fun music.
16:38People enjoyed it.
16:39They matured.
16:40I mean, we matured with them as well, listening to their music.
16:42And it was fascinating.
16:44I mean, so, yeah, that's it.
16:47So I wonder.
16:48And guess what?
16:50What?
16:51The Guinness Book of World Records has the oldest album to come back to number one on
16:59the charts.
17:00Fifty years after it was recorded earlier this year in September, it went to number
17:06one on the charts.
17:07Oh, that's amazing.
17:08Isn't that incredible?
17:09Look, it's like nice to hear things like that.
17:12Yeah.
17:13About our very devastating world.
17:15Of course it does.
17:17And music, I mean, music soothes any soul, any hurt soul, you know.
17:22I mean, Princess Diana died, you know, Edwin Jones sang Candle in the Wind.
17:27And you know, music transcends everything else.
17:30Music puts a smile on your face.
17:32Music makes you cry, makes you happy.
17:35I mean, let's not talk about, you know, reggaeton and gangster rap and all that, but having
17:41said that, Pine Lodge music is such a lovely gift.
17:44That's true.
17:45Yeah.
17:46And this show is about the gift of music and the music that Yusra and me love so much.
17:52Unfortunately, I did too much of talking today.
17:55That's okay.
17:56I didn't know enough about this topic.
17:58So you had the center stage.
17:59We'll come back with something that's more relevant maybe next episode.
18:04Yes.
18:05I can't wait.
18:06I'll think of something.
18:07I don't know.
18:08We'll talk.
18:09We'll see.
18:10We'll talk.
18:11Look forward to that.
18:12But yeah, please stay tuned.
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18:21See you next time.
18:22Thank you, Yusra.
18:23See you guys soon.
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