👉Karina Parodi, residente de un barrio cercano a una prisión, comparte su experiencia de vida en la zona durante 53 años. Habla sobre los desafíos y problemas que enfrentan los vecinos debido a la proximidad con el servicio penitenciario, incluyendo motines y actividades delictivas.
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00:00This lady says, do you live near here?
00:03Yes, in the other block.
00:05How long have you lived here?
00:06I've lived here for 53 years.
00:0753 years?
00:08Yes, all my life.
00:09And what about the prison?
00:10Now it's quiet since the last riot there was.
00:1320 years.
00:14They broke all the ceilings because they took the prisoners.
00:17But yes, there were problems.
00:18You couldn't circulate around where the visitors were waiting.
00:23You couldn't pass because they would attack you there.
00:26And now it's the fourth part.
00:28And how is it to live with a prison?
00:32Horrible.
00:33Horrible.
00:34We want them to get them out.
00:35La Reta promised us.
00:36They made us sign twice.
00:38We all signed the whole block.
00:40But nothing happens.
00:42It's still here.
00:43We can't even go through there.
00:45That's where they get their food.
00:47Of course.
00:48That's where they get their food.
00:50And the people who work here.
00:53And you see that there is a lot of crime.
00:58It's a marginal area.
00:59It's a marginal area.
01:01Yes, yes, yes.
01:02We want them to get them out.
01:03La Reta promised.
01:04And in the end nothing happened.
01:06I don't know.
01:07Then they left.
01:08But the idea is there.
01:09They were going to make a square here.
01:11A big square.
01:12Room complexes.
01:14Facundo Pastor and Marina Calabor want to ask a question.
01:17Because we want to talk to the neighbors of the place.
01:19They are upset because the situation seems undefined.
01:22How are you?
01:23Facundo Pastor, hello.
01:24Hello, how are you?
01:25How are you?
01:26All good?
01:27Yes.
01:28Well, you remembered the riot of 2020.
01:30Now we are obviously going to put images.
01:32Yes, it was the last one.
01:33How do you get along?
01:34What do you hear all the time?
01:36On the terrace you could see everything.
01:38No, since I was born this was a mess, riot after riot.
01:42Always a mess.
01:44And the last one, it seems that half of the prisoners were taken.
01:48Of course, this is April 22, 2020.
01:50And we can put it with audio.
01:52Yes, because this is what the neighbors live.
01:54Exactly, Marina.
01:55What makes the climate of the neighborhood.
01:56Yes, they were all in leather up there.
01:58That audio is what allows us to know and understand the desperation of the neighbors.
02:02Because, of course, living with this is an image.
02:07Look.
02:08No, horrible, the shouts.
02:10The shouts.
02:11Yes, you hear shots.
02:13Tremendous.
02:14Devastating.
02:15Tremendous.
02:16Yes, yes, horrible.
02:17The truth is yes.
02:18Yes.
02:19Tremendous.
02:20And you have to go with ...
02:21Some of those in front of us must be used to it.
02:23But from my house everything is heard.
02:25Of course.
02:26And you also say that in the line of visits it is also difficult to pass there.
02:30Yes.
02:31Yes, the collectives don't stop you there.
02:34Because these girls, the visits are very aggressive.
02:37If you go through there, they tell you what you look at, what happens to you.
02:40Yes.
02:41They are the same as what they are doing.
02:42We don't generalize, but of course.
02:43But let's not generalize, Leandro, right?
02:45Because there ...
02:46No, it's that the collective stop is 100 meters away.
02:48There are no stops on that street.
02:50Yes.
02:51They are still long.
02:52They are still long.
02:53They don't stop you there.
02:54Even in the one that is 100 meters.
02:55Of course, because there are no stops.
02:56Of course.
02:57Now, talking a little about this, I was left with the idea that sometimes those who go on
03:01visit, not all, but some are aggressive, they are violent.
03:04Is there any correlation with insecurity in the neighborhood or not?
03:08That is, did this bring crime to the neighborhood?
03:11My son, my son goes to the corner.
03:14In the corner of the jail, the pipe works, that the boys from school go.
03:18And I don't want to send him alone, and he's afraid to go through there.
03:21What is the pipe?
03:22I'm sorry, what is it?
03:23I'm explaining.
03:24What is the pipe?
03:25The pipe is the club that is in front of the penitentiary.
03:27Perfect.
03:28OK.
03:29Of course, there are the elementary school children.
03:30And you are afraid that they will make a square there?
03:33Of course, because they are going to do sports.
03:35No, he doesn't want to go alone.
03:37Of course.
03:38Pass through the jail.
03:39I want him to go because I work all day.
03:41Of course.
03:42He doesn't want to go, he's afraid to go.
03:43And I have to accompany him alone.
03:44Ma'am, do you know what is happening in Santa Cruz?
03:47Now we are going to go towards that.
03:49They are allowing some prisoners to go out to work.
03:53What do you think if this happened there in Devoto?
03:59I don't know, the truth is that the idea is that they do something.
04:01Because they are there fulfilling a sentence.
04:03They don't help to fix the streets, nothing that is so needed, right?
04:07Of course.
04:08Of course, a little discouraging to generalize.
04:12Of course, you represent the common sense, right?
04:15One wants this, resocialization, utility, utility in the best sense, right?
04:21You said they are useful for something.
04:23One says, well, that they are constructive or positive for their community.
04:27It is assumed that this is going to benefit the whole community.
04:30The thing is that I don't know if they are all there to socialize.
04:32I don't know if it can be.
04:33There are many people who are lost.
04:35I don't think that opportunity is for everyone.
04:38Do you think there is a lot of drugs here?
04:40Of course, there has always been.
04:41Thank you very much.
04:42What is your name?
04:46Karina Parodi.
04:48Karina, she said?
04:49Karina.
04:51Karina Parodi, yes.
04:53I have been living here in the corner for 53 years.
04:55You know the problem better than anyone.
04:58We close with the data of the pigeons you reported, Fabian.
05:01Do you want to tell us?
05:03Yes.
05:04Yes, they pass through here, through the wall.
05:08The pigeons are from the outside, wrapped in a bag.
05:12Something that is illegal comes in and is generally associated with a potato.
05:16Yes, of course.
05:17It usually falls on the ceilings.
05:19Many times there are kidnappings of that merchandise when they see it.
05:22But of every 100, a part of course comes in.
05:25And there is also corruption.
05:26But of course.
05:27It is necessary to use pigeons.
05:28In prison everything comes in.
05:30Of course.
05:31Karina, thank you for your very valuable testimony.
05:34Because living there for 53 years is not talking from the outside.
05:37Thank you, Karina.
05:39Thank you, Fabian.