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00:00So you're saying these talks shouldn't have taken place at all.
00:05Some in the Trump administration would argue that bringing President Putin in from the
00:09cold makes the world a safer place.
00:14What do you say to that argument?
00:16Well, I'd say it's pretty much rubbish.
00:19I mean, we have a Russian president who has not demonstrated any, really any indications,
00:28any willingness to reconsider his broader strategic objectives.
00:33He is still on the warpath with Ukraine.
00:36As we speak, his troops are destroying Ukrainian cities and firing drones and missiles.
00:43He has upgraded in the past three years his military posture along all military domains
00:50that he has put in place in order to threaten Europe.
00:55He has increased his hybrid irregular war activities against NATO and EU member countries.
01:04And he has stated on various occasions that he wants to alter the strategic balance of
01:09power, weaken and paralyze NATO and EU countries, and expand his own sphere of influence.
01:18So here is somebody who has a very clear strategic objective.