John Nelson describes what he saw while onboard the Delta flight that crashed at Canada’s Toronto Pearson International Airport. #CNN #Toronto
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00:00Let's go right now to John Nelson. He was a passenger on the plane.
00:04John, thank you so much for being with us. We're so glad you're okay.
00:08I mean, who would have known that you were in a plane crash a few hours ago?
00:12It's unbelievable. You have video that you recorded we've been watching.
00:16Tell us when you first realized something was the matter.
00:20Yeah, it was a typical flight from Minneapolis to Toronto.
00:24And we were coming in, and I did notice that, like,
00:28the winds were super gusty, the snow had kind of blown over the runways.
00:34And so coming in, it just, it was routine, but, like,
00:39it was noticeable that the runways were kind of in a weird condition.
00:43And when we hit, it was just a super hard, like, hit the ground,
00:48and the plane went sideways, and I believe we skidded, like, on our side
00:54and then flipped over on our back, where we ended up.
00:58There was, like, a big fireball out this left side of the plane.
01:02And when we got finished, it was, I was upside down.
01:06Everybody else was there as well. Thankfully, everybody was okay.
01:12But we tried to get out of there as quickly as possible.
01:15And then shortly thereafter, I got done filming the video.
01:18There was another explosion, but luckily the firefighters got out of there.
01:22They were there quickly, it sounds like.
01:24Yeah.
01:26So where were you seated in the plane?
01:29I was in, like, row 10 of the plane, so just front of the wing.
01:36And did you see the wing come off?
01:39No. By that point, we were being tossed around.
01:42I was just trying to hold on to everything at that point.
01:46And how did you get yourself out of your seatbelt?
01:51Did everyone stay in their seatbelts that you could tell?
01:53Was everyone hanging upside down? Had anyone slipped out of their seatbelts?
01:57Yeah, I mean, it was mass chaos.
01:59I was upside down. The lady next to me was upside down.
02:04We kind of let ourselves go and fell to hit the ceiling, which is a surreal feeling.
02:10And then everybody was just like, get out, get out, get out.
02:13We could smell like jet fuel. Even now I smell like jet fuel.
02:18And then we just crawled out the back of the airplane.
02:21The firefighters, the MTs were there right away.
02:25Was anyone injured? I mean, what did you see?
02:27We know there were some injuries. What was it like?
02:30Chaos. There was injuries. There was hurt individuals.
02:37Yeah, I mean, it's just all the emotional rollercoaster that you go through,
02:42but things you hope you don't see again, right?
02:48How are you feeling?
02:51Stressed, nervous, shaky still.
03:05Sorry, John, you cut out for just a second.
03:07I was asking how you felt and you said that you're feeling really shaky.
03:11And we can pick that up from you. You must be very, very stressed from this.
03:16Yeah, a lot of stress. It's amazing that we're still here.
03:22So.
03:26Hope to not do that again.
03:29And it really is amazing, and that's what experts have been telling us.
03:34When when you landed with the hard landing and went to the side
03:40and then the plane was on was upside down, did that all happen very quickly?
03:45And what did that physically feel like for you as you were being tossed around?
03:50Yeah, I mean, it's it's you know, it happens so quickly, right?
03:55You hit there's this like giant like pop crack.
03:58You know, it's this like super loud bang kind of thing happens.
04:01And then everything just goes literally sideways.
04:05And it happens so fast that I just remember like kind of pulling myself in
04:10and trying not to hit my head against anything.
04:14And luckily, our flight attendants and everything were helpful for us.
04:20So they are signaling me that I do need to move on.
04:23But is there anything else?
04:25Just really quickly, do you know why the plane flipped?
04:29Do you know if did it feel like it dipped one way or the other with the wing?
04:34I think it I don't know. I'm no expert on that one.
04:37I will let them figure it out.
04:39It feels like snow, wind, hard landing, all of it together.
04:44And if you talk to your family, are you going to see them?
04:48I'll see them hopefully tomorrow.
04:51Oh, John, that's not soon enough.
04:53But I'm so glad you're going to see them.
04:55I'm so glad that you're with us.
04:57And thank you so much for joining us tonight. We appreciate it.
05:03Thank you. I do want to bring in now Aaron Murphy.
05:06Aaron is a commercial pilot, a flight instructor, and he's with us tonight.
05:15Here are some of what John was saying there in that interview.
05:18Were you able to hear that?
05:21I heard John's words loud and clear.
05:24And there's nothing quite as harrowing as listening to someone's first account of a situation such as this,
05:32and to walk away from something that you were probably sure it was the end.
05:36And I'm so happy that so many people walked away from this one. Absolutely.
05:41Yeah, it's unbelievable.
05:43And I know you say that this was a completely routine flight until the very final seconds before landing.
05:49It seems like that's what we've heard.
05:51Maybe kind of gusty. We heard that from John.
05:54Another passenger said he felt like it was very normal.
05:57Could you talk to us, though, about what wind conditions were like
06:00and what pilots would have been dealing with as they were landing here?
06:05Absolutely, Brianna. Cut me off if you need to.
06:08I tend to drone on a little bit about these things.
06:11This is an environmental factors accident today,
06:15which will also have layers of human factors and procedure and training.
06:21Every single accident has those three things in them always.
06:26Very demanding, very challenging conditions today at the Pearson Airport.
06:30We had winds from the numbers that I saw around the time of the arrival,
06:35270 at 25 gusting to 40 to 35.
06:39I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few gusts that got in there over 45,
06:44maybe even 50 knots just at the time when the DRGA was touching down,
06:49which would be that very critical moment in the phase of flight for sure.
06:54The snow component, with the snow over the runways,
06:57and it was even visible to passengers, what kind of difficulty does that pose?
07:04The Pearson equipment, the snow removal equipment at Pearson,
07:08would have been out probably for four days straight.
07:11We've had something like 25 to 30 inches or more of snow.
07:16That doesn't sound like a lot of snow for a lot of people in other places in North America.
07:21But those equipment operators would have been going around and around the runways,
07:25trying to make those runways as safe as possible.
07:28And I would expect that in the very last seconds of landing,
07:32there could have been a strong gust,
07:35which would have brought quite a bit of blowing snow across the runway,
07:39possibly limiting the pilot's view of the runway while they were landing.
07:44In the very final seconds of touchdown, maybe the last 20 or even 10 seconds.
07:49So environmental factors are playing a large role in this one for sure.
07:54Yeah, and their reports to investigators will be critical to see certainly what they experienced.
07:59Aaron Murphy, thank you so much. We really appreciate your insights.
08:03Thank you for having me. I'm glad everybody's okay.
08:06We're all so, so glad.