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00:00CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:12Hello.
00:15Hello, everyone.
00:19Thank you all for coming.
00:21Good evening to you at home and welcome to The Jonathan Ross Show.
00:25And we have got a fabulous line-up for you tonight,
00:27so let's have a look at who's in my green room.
00:29First up is a national hero with an amazing success story
00:33who won gold in the 800m at the Olympics
00:36before winning Sports Personality of the Year.
00:39It is, of course, the fabulous Keeley Hodgkinson.
00:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:43Thank you for joining us.
00:46Alongside Keeley is a man who's got...
00:49Get these, these are impressive figures.
00:51He has got 94 restaurants,
00:53eight Michelin stars
00:55and now six kids.
00:58Very successful and I'm sure also very tired, Gordon Ramsay.
01:02CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:07Plus, we have, and you're going to love this,
01:10we have an actor who never fails to entertain,
01:12whether he's Mick in EastEnders,
01:14Freddy in Rivals or himself in Danny Dyer's Deadliest Men.
01:18It's everyone's favourite Cockney geezer, Danny Dyer.
01:21CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:23Is that the hammer? That's the hammer, I believe.
01:28We also have a bona fide showbiz legend on the show
01:32and what an incredible career.
01:34She won Miss America, she had a string of great hits,
01:37including Save The Best For Last,
01:39she conquered TV in Ugly Betty
01:41and is now starring in the smash hit musical
01:43The Devil Wears Prada here in the West End.
01:45It's Vanessa Williams!
01:47CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:50And if that weren't enough,
01:52we also have one of the most exciting new actors around
01:55that you'll have probably seen starring opposite Nicole Kidman
01:58in the brilliant movie Baby Girl.
02:00It's Harris Dickinson!
02:02CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:04Hey, Harris.
02:05And that's not all, even that's not all,
02:07because we have great music for you tonight
02:09from a genuine superstar.
02:11She's one of the all-time greats,
02:12she's one of my all-time favourite musicians,
02:14she's got a new album out which is fabulous,
02:16she's going to be amazing.
02:17It is Joan Armatrading!
02:19CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:22For much of the country, of course,
02:24she's been half-term this week,
02:25so firstly, to any parents out there,
02:27my thoughts and prayers are with you,
02:29because it's tough keeping the kids entertained during half-term.
02:32We love playing hide and seek with the kids, and take a look,
02:34some of them are very good at it.
02:35Take a look at this little ninja.
02:37And...
02:39Hide and seek.
02:40One...
02:42Two...
02:43Three...
02:45Four...
02:47Five...
02:49Six...
02:51Seven...
02:52Eight...
02:53Nine...
02:5410.
02:55APPLAUSE
02:56That's three, isn't it?
02:58Now, the weather's getting warmer, of course, thank heavens,
03:00and sometimes it's better to take the kids out,
03:02and that's how you get some fresh air,
03:03they go to the park and get some fresh air,
03:05and also you can teach them some important lessons
03:07about health and safety.
03:12AUDIENCE GROANS
03:14LAUGHTER
03:16AUDIENCE GROANS
03:24APPLAUSE
03:30I don't think that kid is going to have any more brothers or sisters.
03:34Shall we get on with the show?
03:36OK.
03:37Let's get my first guests out,
03:39it's Harris Dickinson, Keeley Hodgkinson and Gordon Ramsay.
03:43CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
04:02It's lovely to have you all here.
04:04Thank you all for joining me.
04:05Let me start with you, Keeley.
04:06What a year it's been for you.
04:08Amazing year.
04:09We had the gold at Parrish, you received an MBE.
04:12Yeah.
04:13And Sports Personality of the Year as well.
04:15Yeah.
04:16Well, I mean, has it...
04:17CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
04:23So, next year, how are you going to top that?
04:27Yeah, honestly, I don't know.
04:28It's definitely been a special year for me.
04:30I've loved every second of it, but, like you say,
04:32how do you cope on better than that?
04:33Well, you know how you cope.
04:34I know you've got something, your sight's on something,
04:36but we'll get to that in a minute, if you can achieve that.
04:38But first of all, I think, let's remind ourselves of the moment.
04:41Did you get to see the Olympics? Did you get to see the Olympics?
04:43Yeah. Did you see Keeley win?
04:44Yeah. Absolutely.
04:45I can't even run for the boss without getting it.
04:47LAUGHTER
04:48Like, yeah, a lot of respect.
04:49OK, well, then, you'll be even more filled with respect
04:52when we revisit that moment.
04:53This is Keeley at the Olympics. Enjoy this.
04:56And it's the two big names at the front.
04:59Mary Mora can be very strong in the home straight.
05:02Keeley Hodgkinson with Mary Mora on her shoulder.
05:05Surely this is where Keeley has to put her foot down.
05:08Surely this is where she goes away.
05:10Hodgkinson, she's already looking up at the screen.
05:13Finishing very quickly as Deguva, but she's not going to catch Keeley.
05:18Keeley Hodgkinson gets the gold.
05:21CHEERING
05:23Gold for Keeley.
05:25Gold for Great Britain.
05:28Gold for being brilliant.
05:33What a win. Yeah.
05:34Do you watch that back much, or do you not look back on it?
05:38No, I do like to watch back.
05:40I feel like sometimes it's a nice little reminder,
05:42a little motivator.
05:44So, yeah, the first time I watched it back was, like,
05:464am after the race, so...
05:48Really, when you got back? Yeah.
05:50Just to remind yourself that you actually did it?
05:52Yeah, just to make sure it actually happened.
05:54And did you party afterwards? Did you have a big night afterwards?
05:57Well, unfortunately, the glamour after track and field isn't so great,
06:01so I had anti-doping straight after.
06:03I probably left the track at, like, 1am, went to see my family
06:06back at 4am, up at 6am for an hour, a whole day of media.
06:10Wow. That doesn't sound...
06:12But then I went to Marbella, so it's OK.
06:15As we know, in Marbella, no anti-doping,
06:17so you can have a great time.
06:19But you're only 22. That's what's amazing.
06:21You're only 22. And was it always going to be running for you,
06:24or were there other kind of sports or other careers
06:26that you had in mind?
06:27I did start off swimming.
06:29I was kind of inspired by Rebecca Adlington back in 2008.
06:32Me and my dad used to kind of go back and forth.
06:34He used to tell me I had a talent in running,
06:36and I was like,
06:37oh, so you think I'm really bad at swimming, then?
06:39Fair enough.
06:40And we had this argument for about a year,
06:42and then when I was about 12,
06:43decided to make the switch back to athletics,
06:45and I've been building up ever since.
06:47Well, and doing amazingly well.
06:48So it was the right choice. Obviously, Dad did know something.
06:51Apparently so. Yeah.
06:52Harry, what about you? Because you are also a very young man.
06:55OK. Well, you're not a young man.
06:57You're also a very young person. Right.
06:59But was it always acting for you?
07:01Was that what you always had your heart set on?
07:04No, I mean, I did a few different things.
07:06I really wanted... I really loved it as a kid,
07:08but I didn't know it was going to be a job.
07:10I was a bin man for a bit. Right.
07:12Which I liked. That was a...
07:14Was that like going round people's houses or in a park?
07:16No, it was, like, different events,
07:18and then I got assigned to a park.
07:20When the woman that employed me sort of trusted me,
07:23she gave me, like, a more full-time plot of land,
07:26where she said, this is yours now.
07:27You're in control of that bin, that bin.
07:29Do you know what I mean? It was like the trust was built.
07:32The more bins, the more trusted you are?
07:34Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had three, yeah.
07:39Would it have been different for you, Keeley,
07:41if you hadn't gone into...?
07:42What were you planning to do if sport hadn't become your thing?
07:45I was actually... I wanted to go in the army,
07:48which Kelly Holmes did it,
07:50and, you know, she went on to be a great athlete.
07:53I think, to be fair, it was this man came into school
07:56and I just heard the money was good.
07:59And I was, like, 16 years old getting that pay,
08:02like, outside of school, yeah.
08:04But I decided to stick to athletics.
08:06Well, that's motivation in one way.
08:09Speaking vaguely of the Olympics,
08:11Gordon has some exciting news in his life, of course,
08:13because your daughter has recently got engaged, Holly,
08:16to a double Olympic champion.
08:18That's right, yeah, Adam. Adam Peaty. Yes.
08:20Which is amazing. Amazing, amazing, yeah.
08:23Lots of lovely, exciting talk at the wedding this year.
08:27There's going to be a Christmas wedding
08:29and they're looking at sort of areas and venues
08:31and lots of planning.
08:32Did he do the traditional thing?
08:33Did he come and speak to you and ask your permission to propose to her?
08:36Yeah, I mean, it's not really permission,
08:38but, I mean, he's a very, very nice guy
08:40and so down-to-earth and just so focused and disciplined,
08:43so he sat us down in Cornwall and said,
08:45can I have a word?
08:46I actually thought we were going off fishing, to be honest.
08:49It would be a lot cheaper than the wedding.
08:51And he just said, look, you know, Holly's just the perfect woman
08:56and I'd like to get your blessing from you and Tana
08:59for, you know, a hand in marriage.
09:01And it was just that amazing sort of moment.
09:03Everything just went quiet and just, yeah,
09:05as a future son-in-law, we couldn't have asked for anything better.
09:08He's just, he's on it. So no disrespect, Gordon.
09:12But if you were going to be my father-in-law... Right.
09:15..I would be worried about the speech you would make at the wedding.
09:20Are you going to plan something?
09:22Oh, it's going to be short and simple.
09:24It will go, yeah, don't fuck this up.
09:28It's the first real outside family member
09:31to come into the household, so it gets a little bit competitive
09:35between him and Jack and myself when we're swimming.
09:38And so, you know...
09:39And presumably, though, he beats you quite easily.
09:43I mean, I don't know why you'd bother to be competitive
09:47with a double Olympic gold medal winner.
09:50He does at breaststroke, yes.
09:52I tell you what, after the show, why don't you challenge Keeley
09:55to a race around the block? What's wrong with you?
09:58But let's get back to something you're good at. Right.
10:01Let's talk about cooking and restaurants,
10:03because the exciting news is, and the reason why Gordon's here tonight,
10:06he's just opened a brand-new restaurant here in London.
10:08It's called Lucky Cat.
10:09I believe it's in Bishopgate in London,
10:11and I believe it's the highest restaurant in London.
10:14In Europe, actually. In Europe? Yes, in Europe, yeah. Wow.
10:17Yeah, 300 metres in the sky.
10:19And you've got other things in the same building.
10:21You've got a bar there,
10:22and also you set up the Gordon Ramsay Academy.
10:24Yes, Culinary Academy, yeah.
10:25And so you're teaching people to cook?
10:27That's right, yeah. I mean, it's stunning.
10:29It's a 12-seater academy with this amazing state-of-the-art kitchen.
10:32You've got Lucky Cat Bar and then the Lucky Cat restaurant.
10:35And the views are spectacular. I mean, just breathtaking.
10:37But how's the new restaurant going? Is it going great?
10:39We're days old.
10:40There's a couple of issues with guests stealing the little Lucky Cats.
10:44OK, hold it.
10:45OK, so I went to the restaurant in the interest of research. Yes.
10:48I've got to be honest with you, the food was amazing, OK?
10:50Absolutely superb. And the view, come on.
10:52Well, you say the view.
10:53I was promised this view, 60th floor.
10:56I went, I'm not making this up.
10:57I went on a Saturday lunchtime... Go on.
10:59..two weeks ago.
11:00I've taken a photograph to prove it. Yes.
11:02This is my table at the restaurant. Have a look at this.
11:05This is the view I had.
11:08That's the view we got. That's superimposed.
11:10No, that's the 60th floor.
11:12There's a cloud outside the window.
11:14Have we got another...?
11:15Put another one of my pictures up to prove it.
11:17Look, look.
11:19This is the view we had the whole...
11:21It was the worst view in any restaurant I've ever been in my life.
11:25I'll be honest with you, when you go in, if you go there,
11:28I think they put you on a lift,
11:29one door opens, doesn't go up, just opens the other door,
11:31you're still on the ground floor.
11:33With white windows.
11:34That's bullshit. You superimposed that.
11:36Here's the view he said we should have.
11:37Look at the show of the pictures. And it is...
11:40And then the night-time view looked really beautiful.
11:42He showed me a night-time view picture.
11:44Look. It does look stunning.
11:46But did you not wait for the cloud to pass?
11:48I had a lunch, I had to go home.
11:50I can't sit around for six hours in your restaurant waiting for a view.
11:54What kind of a treatment is that?
11:56I'm a customer. Don't tell me what to do.
11:59But we got a problem with the toilets as well.
12:01Did you go to the bathroom?
12:02Of course I went to the bathroom.
12:04I'm a man in his 60s, I went to the bathroom seven times.
12:07No, but there's lots of couples going in there
12:10and sort of treating it as like the Mahal sort of bathroom
12:13because of the views.
12:15And it's like, Mario said,
12:16Gordon, we've got a problem with the bathroom.
12:18I said, what's wrong? He said, well, they're not coming out.
12:20What do you mean, they're not coming out?
12:22How can they not come out of the restaurant? Who let them in?
12:24What are they doing in there?
12:25He said, well, they're going in as a couple and it's a sort of...
12:27They're having sex in the toilet. I don't know about that.
12:29Well, that's what you're implying.
12:30But there's a shelf and the views are just spectacular.
12:32And now the cats are getting stolen at night, OK?
12:36Well, now, hold it. The cats you're talking about...
12:38Now, hold it. Are you talking about these cats?
12:40No, no, stop. These are the cats. Oh, my God!
12:42No, listen. Listen.
12:44I thought they had the chopsticks on the table.
12:46I thought you were allowed to take them home.
12:48Wouldn't you think that?
12:50This is on the table. I took them home.
12:53And they're quality. Feel that. It's a quality dish.
12:55Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:56Do you want to feel one?
12:58So, if you went there and that was on your table,
13:00you would take it home, wouldn't you?
13:01You've got about six of them. I've got four.
13:03We left four. There were eight of us. We could have had more.
13:05There was 477 stolen last week.
13:07They cost £4.50 each, for God's sake.
13:10You shouldn't make them so nice and so small.
13:13I genuinely thought this was a gift from the restaurant.
13:15I thought, isn't that lovely?
13:16I went out and my pockets were chinking.
13:18And I thought...
13:19No, I genuinely thought we were allowed to take them home.
13:21Did you steal the big cats from the bathrooms as well?
13:23I didn't steal. I took one because I thought that was...
13:26Because they had them for sale in the restaurant
13:28and I thought that was a thing.
13:30They're £200 each, for fuck's sake.
13:32You can't steal that.
13:33Not the way I get them, they're not.
13:35Oh, my God.
13:37But, listen...
13:38I mean, seriously...
13:41Are you big foodies? Do you eat out a lot? Can you cook?
13:44I think I can cook.
13:45I get voted best chef on training camp.
13:47Wow. Oh, that's good. I'll take that win.
13:49And what do you do when you're away and can't do stuff?
13:51Do you get equipment in the kind of area,
13:53the flat you're in, the apartment you're in?
13:55Do they give you stuff to cook with
13:56or do you have to go out to communal areas to eat?
13:58OK, so, Tokyo Olympics.
14:00I was 19.
14:01I was just starting my chefing journey, really.
14:04And the food hall was a good, like, ten-minute walk away.
14:09Now I'm trying to save my energy, you know,
14:11I've got finals to run, things like that.
14:13And I needed a porridge in the morning,
14:15so I didn't have any microwave,
14:17so I used the kettle to, like, boil the milk.
14:20What?
14:21And, honestly, it works.
14:23If you just time it right,
14:24like, you can't let it boil all the way through.
14:26Because then it's spoiled, isn't it?
14:28Yeah, and then it, like, burns the bottom
14:30and then other people have got to use the kettle.
14:32Disgusting.
14:33So you just have to time it right, wait for the slight,
14:35before it boils and then lift it up,
14:37put it in your oats and then you've got some porridge.
14:39And you can learn that at the Gordon Ramsay...
14:44..school.
14:46But speaking of milk, Alice...
14:49You're not going to...
14:50How many people here have seen the film Baby Girl?
14:52OK.
14:53If you've seen Baby Girl, you know where we're going with this.
14:55If you haven't, then you've got a treat in store.
14:57Because there's a key scene in it.
14:58Well, first of all, could you set the movie up,
15:00for those who haven't seen it yet?
15:01And if you haven't, you should go and see it,
15:03because it's a great experience.
15:04It's a very different sort of film, it's very fun as well.
15:06It's sexy and it's kind of, like, also very thought-provoking.
15:09But if you could sum up what the plot is.
15:11Yeah, so Nicole Kidman plays a CEO of a robotics company
15:15and my character comes in as an intern
15:18and we basically have this, like, illicit affair
15:20and that is the film.
15:22But it's more than just an illicit affair,
15:24it's not like just getting together,
15:25there's a quality to it, isn't there?
15:27Yeah, there's like a...
15:28There's an exploration of our desires as well.
15:31I think the director was really interested
15:33in trying to explore what it means to...
15:36For someone who hasn't explored their sexuality properly
15:39or been liberated properly, what that means
15:41and how that holds people back, in a way.
15:43And the film isn't even that explicit.
15:45I mean, if you watch it, really, the most, like, explicit thing
15:48is probably the milk drinking, for example.
15:50It's not, like, a rude...
15:51You know, my mum thought it was going to be
15:53a really, like, raunchy film.
15:54When she watched it, she was like,
15:55I wore a turtleneck in case she needed to...
15:57But it's not, you know, it's more like psychological...
15:59Hold it, hold it. Yeah, go on.
16:01Did you go and see this film with your mother?
16:03No, so...
16:05No, she came to a screening and I did a Q&A after.
16:08Hold it, so you were there while your mother was watching it?
16:11I was backstage, I didn't sit and watch it with her.
16:13No, no, OK, because it is...
16:14Because one of the things about it, obviously,
16:16the character Harris plays is obviously younger
16:18than the character Nicole Kidman plays,
16:20and it's sort of about the power dynamics...
16:22Yeah.
16:23..in a relationship as well as in society as well, I guess.
16:26Let's have a look at a clip.
16:27Have you seen it, Keeley?
16:30Did you enjoy it?
16:34OK, let's have a look. This is a clip from Baby Girl
16:36and it's probably not one to watch with your parents
16:38or if you're a parent with your kids,
16:40but it's a great piece of cinema. Look at this.
16:42We're going to do this.
16:44We need to set some rules that you and I both agree on.
16:47Did you order this?
16:49Starting with...
16:52..I tell you what to do and you do it.
16:55BELL RINGS
16:57And if I don't?
16:58Get on your knees.
16:59No! What?
17:01Get on your knees now.
17:02I'm...
17:04Is that what you want?
17:05BELL RINGS
17:08You're very young. I don't want to hurt you.
17:11Hurt me?
17:12I think I have power over you.
17:15Because I could make one call and you lose everything.
17:18Does that turn you on when it's late?
17:21Oh, hey, you forgot your laptop at the office.
17:23Mum, can Mary sleep on it?
17:27I genuinely believe women with power would behave differently.
17:31Want to stop?
17:40You seem liberated.
17:42I've never experienced anything like this.
17:48Good girl.
17:49Good girl.
17:59What's the reaction been?
18:01Because obviously you're playing a young man
18:03who has a sexual relation with an older woman.
18:05Have you had older women talk to you about the film?
18:09Yeah, I mean...
18:11I don't mean, like, no.
18:12No, I mean, like, fans, if you're out,
18:14does an older woman say, hello?
18:16Well...
18:19I mean, in America, after the film came out in December,
18:24we had some funny chats with people.
18:27I mean, you know, the older generation of women
18:30tend to be a bit more forthcoming with, you know...
18:34Why not? They haven't got much time.
18:37You get to our age, you've got to get to the point, haven't you, Gordon?
18:40Yeah.
18:42Yeah.
18:43But a woman came up to me and she tickled me and said...
18:49Honey, I can't wait to get home and use that vibrator.
18:54What do you say to that? What do you say to that?
18:56I mean, what do you even reply?
18:58I don't know what you say.
19:00But, Keely, your fan base is very different to this kind of thing,
19:03and I know what's lovely about what you do
19:05is you're inspiring a whole generation of younger people
19:07to get into sport and lots of younger women as well
19:10to follow in your footsteps.
19:11You had the Keely Classic, which you were meant to be winning at,
19:14but you couldn't run.
19:15No, unfortunately, I tore my hamstring.
19:18Ouch. Painful. Yeah, disappointing.
19:21And such bad timing.
19:22It was, unfortunately, just the worst outcome we could have had.
19:25But the weekend was still a success, despite me not running.
19:29We still had some great British records done by...
19:32There we go. Amazing.
19:34DJ Tony Perry. A bit of DJing.
19:36He was great. He's done the World Cup.
19:38Because you were hoping you were going for a record this weekend,
19:41weren't you?
19:42Yeah, I was going to try and break the world indoor record.
19:44Fun fact, it was set on the exact day I was born.
19:47Wow. Yeah, 3rd March 2002.
19:49Fortunately, it stands for another year.
19:51I'll give it a go next year.
19:53But I'll also miss the European Championships
19:55and the World Indoor Championships.
19:57So it was a bit of a tough one to take.
19:59That's awful. And how did it happen? What happened?
20:01Yeah, it wasn't expected. It was at the end of a training session.
20:04So I was just doing some strides.
20:06And, yeah, I just absolutely killed this workout.
20:09And then last rep, I just felt this, like, pull.
20:12So I stopped, tried to tell myself it wasn't that bad.
20:15And then a day later, I went for a scan and it revealed a tear.
20:18Have you ever pulled anything, Gordon?
20:20LAUGHTER
20:23I rushed with my achilles literally five years ago and snapped.
20:26And it's terrible.
20:28But that's why you shouldn't... That's a bad one.
20:30Because you're about to do another Ironman, aren't you? Yeah, July.
20:33July. And how old are you now? I'm 58 now.
20:35Is that a good idea?
20:37We have a foundation for Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital,
20:40so every year there's two or three.
20:42And I need that target every year, sort of six months bang on,
20:45just to stay on point and trim and just fit as a fiddle.
20:50OK, we're going to take a break, ladies and gentlemen,
20:52but don't go away because up next we'll be joined
20:54by the fabulous Danny Dyer. See you in a couple of minutes.
20:56CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
21:06Welcome back to the show. Let's get my next guest out.
21:09He's an actor who's as cockney as a jellied eel
21:12dressed as a pearly king driving a black car.
21:14The one and only Danny Dyer.
21:16CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
21:23Do you want a hammer?
21:29WHISTLE BLOWS
21:32Very lovely. Sit yourself down, Danny.
21:35Danny, it's great to have Danny Dyer with us, isn't it, ladies and gentlemen?
21:38It's a pleasure, thank you. I love Danny.
21:40OK, so with Danny on the show and Gordon on the show,
21:43we have got the two men who have sworn the most on this programme
21:46over the years. I've got the stats here.
21:49Are you ready for this? Gordon Ramsay has made seven appearances
21:52on this show, has dropped the F-bomb 32 times.
21:564.57 F-bombs per episode.
22:00Young Mr Dyer here. That's tame, that is tame.
22:02Well, Danny, six appearances, one less appearance than Gordon.
22:06Go on. 32 F-bombs.
22:095.33 bombs per episode.
22:11So you are the winner.
22:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
22:17Frankly, I thought he was a lot more.
22:19Oh, I did, I'm very surprised at that.
22:21Sorry about the glasses, I'm slowly morphing into Ray Winston.
22:25It's a very natural progression.
22:27Is this an eyesight thing? Yeah, no, I can't see anymore.
22:30But is it because of the lights or you've got...
22:33No, I'm getting old, you know, I'm a grandfather, so...
22:36You're a grandfather? Yes. How many grandkids have you got?
22:38Three. Three? I've got three of the fuckers.
22:42There's a first one.
22:44But, Gordon, you don't have any grandkids yet.
22:46Fuck all.
22:50You see... We're going to run this shit right up.
22:53Now I realise this is my fault, I was just...
22:56So two of your grandchildren, though, have appeared
22:58since the last time you were on the show. Yes.
23:00They're recent members of the family, aren't they? Twins.
23:03You've got Summer and Star. Twins. Yeah.
23:05Both one years old. How are they?
23:07Look at them. They are adorable.
23:10Yeah, they're amazing. We call them the Terribles,
23:12because they terrorise you, you know what I mean?
23:17They're a gift, to be fair.
23:19And, yeah, they terrorise me.
23:21I've had them a couple of times and I just say,
23:23man, just... That's enough now. Do you know what I mean?
23:27So they're very different.
23:28So when you say... What, they just wear you out,
23:30or are they up to mischief? Well, they're off, mate.
23:32They're 100 miles an hour and you can't...
23:34You know, it's bad enough with one of them,
23:36so they just want to destroy things in front of them.
23:38They've got an obsession with my dog, Debbie.
23:41It's a bulldog. Debbie the bulldog.
23:45And they're obsessed with her arse, Jon.
23:49And I say that in a way they want to stick things up her arse.
23:54Like, so they're clever, so one will distract her,
23:59while the other one, and I swear this is the truth,
24:02tries to sort of stick, like, an aeroplane...
24:07I think they're trying to test what will go up there.
24:09Well, yeah, I'm feeling very sorry for Debbie in this whole situation.
24:13Oh, no, but she's got such a lovely nature, you know,
24:15she doesn't get the hump about it, you know.
24:17Can't you put some trousers on her or something?
24:20You can't put trousers on a bulldog, Jon.
24:23No, you've got to let her arse breathe, you know what I mean?
24:26All right, let's talk about families in general.
24:30Because we know your dad encouraged you to run early on.
24:34Harris, did your mum... Cos you were raised by your mum, weren't you?
24:37Yeah, yeah, and one of four of my mum did a wicked job of us, yeah.
24:40She was a hairdresser.
24:41But did she have a salon or where did she do that?
24:43No, she did it from home, so she did it from our kitchen.
24:46So I'd pot her downstairs most days in my pants
24:49and I'd be like, you know, an older woman in the kitchen
24:52getting her hair permed or something.
24:54Hang on, so this is where it all started?
24:56Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:57And you would give her some milk from the fridge?
25:02OK, so, you know, we know that Gordon's getting ready
25:05for his daughter's wedding. Yes.
25:07OK, and I believe you will have to obviously get ready
25:10for your daughter's wedding as well. Yes.
25:12OK, did he, we asked Gordon this question,
25:14did the young man who's going to marry you, Danny,
25:17come and ask you for permission?
25:19And I know he does something, his professional career
25:22is something that you are very excited about.
25:24Well, it's a mad thing, isn't it, the idea of giving your daughter away?
25:27I don't quite like the idea of that, right?
25:29But if you're going to give your daughter away,
25:31give your daughter away to the West End captain.
25:33Wow.
25:34I mean, hang on.
25:38You know, it's amazing.
25:40He's just a very humble, brilliant, beautiful man
25:43who worships the grounds he walks on.
25:46He did call me. Nice, nice.
25:48And asked for my, you know, hand in marriage
25:51and all this sort of stuff, and I was...
25:53I was on the verge of tears.
25:56I was trying to be the old man of cults. Yeah.
25:58And, you know, we had a little chat about it,
26:01and then he said, what if she says no?
26:03I was like, she won't fucking say no.
26:06So that's Gerard Bowen.
26:07But that's an old-school tradition, isn't it?
26:09Yeah, it's a nice thing to do.
26:11Does he come and do sort of, like,
26:13kick around the ball in your garden and stuff?
26:15He has done before.
26:16He came round and he had his top off,
26:18you know, doing kick-ups in the garden.
26:20I was just sort of gulping at him.
26:25I do feel sorry for my other daughter, Sunny.
26:28She's...
26:29There's no man she can ever bring home, really, that can match...
26:34..what this man's achieved.
26:35She can bring home a heart surgeon, you know,
26:37and do something, you know.
26:38You know, he saves a bit of a paediatrician.
26:41I go, I couldn't give a fuck.
26:44She'll go, listen...
26:45She'll go, look, he's found a cure for cancer.
26:48I go, but he didn't score the winning goal
26:50in a European final that night, so I'm not interested.
26:53Priorities.
26:54So, you know, yeah, she has brought home the ideal man for me.
26:59Which is a rare thing, to be fair.
27:01We've recently seen a different Saito on screen,
27:04which I'm pleased to see.
27:05I mean, I think not that different,
27:07because you played a very lovable character in EastEnders as well.
27:10But I don't know how many of you saw the series Rivals,
27:12that's been recently, which is great.
27:14It was such a great show,
27:15and you played such a lovable character in it.
27:18It was very nice to see you playing someone
27:20who was kind of gentler and more thoughtful
27:22and kind of restrained in that way.
27:24And I'm wondering, did that open up a new fan base for you?
27:26Did new people come to you?
27:27Yeah, no, absolutely.
27:28It's been a revelation to me, do you know what I mean?
27:31It's, you know, I'm not the lead part in it,
27:33so it was a smaller role.
27:35You know, me with Atash,
27:36I thought I was going to get a lot of shit for it.
27:40Actually, it turned out, you know, the broadsheets
27:43and all the people that thought I was a fucking joke
27:46all of a sudden are saying I'm fucking Marlon Brando,
27:48and I'm a bit like...
27:49You know, it's like a backhanded sort of compliment.
27:51I've always backed myself as an actor, do you know what I mean?
27:54It's just about doing different things and having opportunities.
27:57So, again, it's a revelation to me.
27:59I'm like... Do you know what it is?
28:01I think the character in the show, he's a powerful man,
28:04he's the richest man in the whole thing, but he's kind.
28:08And I think that, you know, for some reason,
28:10you know, kindness became sexy,
28:12and, you know, he sees this woman for who she is and all that,
28:15and, you know, people sort of...
28:17I don't know, it's hit differently for some reason.
28:19That is what it's really lovely about it.
28:21So it's changed, really, the fan base?
28:23Yeah, I think I've become wank material
28:25for sort of, like, middle, upper-class...
28:28I'm just being frank with you, that's the truth.
28:32You know, I have a lot of, you know, sort of nutty messages from...
28:35I don't know what it is, I'm taking it as a compliment.
28:38Keely, I'm going to ask you a question now,
28:40but don't worry, it's not the same one.
28:42I apologise, Keely, I know, it's just...
28:44Keely, has your fan base changed since winning the Olympics?
28:47Obviously, you had people who were fans,
28:49people who knew what you were doing,
28:50there were people who really admired you
28:51and young people who looked up to you,
28:53but since getting that medal,
28:54do you get approached by a different sort of person?
28:56No, I get some lovely stories from, like, young boys and girls
28:59who've watched Paris, and I think one of my goals
29:01is obviously trying to inspire the next generation.
29:03It's track and field, pick up something from sport.
29:05I think you can learn a lot from sport in your life.
29:08Yeah, but that must be a lovely thing, though,
29:10because obviously, did you have someone who you were looking up to
29:12in the same way when you were starting out?
29:14Who were your kind of idols?
29:16I really loved Serena Williams and Jessica Ennis-Hill.
29:19She kind of inspired me back into the sport when I was, like, 12.
29:22In London 2012, she was the star girl.
29:24She is amazing.
29:25Let's talk about Danny's new film, OK?
29:27I've seen Danny's new film, I really enjoyed it,
29:29and it's a love story, unashamedly working class.
29:32Yes.
29:33Which is one of the things I really enjoyed about it,
29:35because I love cinema, but a lot of cinema is made by middle-class people
29:39or it has a kind of middle-class kind of world view.
29:42And often you'll see films set in a work-class environment
29:45and more often than not it's portrayed as just a kind of hell hole of misery.
29:49And obviously there are aspects of life at any level which are difficult,
29:53but sometimes it's like, I think, where's the fun in that
29:55and why can't we see both sides?
29:56And that is very much what you've got in this film,
29:58that's one of the things I really enjoyed about it.
30:00Well, it's about the ridiculousness of masculinity as well,
30:02you know, and we're sort of highlighting that.
30:04It's not a serious film, you know what I mean?
30:06No, it's funny as well.
30:07We're not sneering at the culture at all.
30:09But it is a love story between two people and it's a lot about addiction,
30:12it takes on, you know, there's a lot of heavy stuff in there.
30:14Let's have a look at a clip. This is March in Powder.
30:16This is in cinemas on 7th March. Have a look at this.
30:21Hi.
30:22Very.
30:24When you married my daughter, you took a vow to take care of her.
30:28Well, we are in for a treat today.
30:30Two great firms meeting in the streets of Grimsby.
30:33Oh, it's a lovely effort. Best worth a look from another angle.
30:37What a screamer from Jack Jones.
30:40Have probation suggested couples' workshops?
30:43I'd imagine he'd rather give his cocaine to the homeless.
30:46I'm a stain on society. No one wants my type around anymore.
30:50How do I feel completely fucking irrelevant?
30:52Because you are.
30:53Dad, is Mum having an affair?
30:55What makes you say that?
30:56She said that if ever you pick me up from school,
30:59it means she's either dead or run off with another man.
31:09Go and see it at the cinema,
31:11because then you're supporting different voices in British film
31:14and you're supporting British films and, of course, you're supporting Danny Dyer.
31:16And it is great to see you back on the big screen.
31:18And that little boy in the film, am I right in thinking that's your little boy?
31:21That's my actual son, yes.
31:23It's weird they couldn't find a kid that was allowed to swear,
31:26because he does swear in it.
31:29And do you know what? I couldn't have done it with another kid.
31:31I've got a really good close bond with my son
31:33and we improvised a lot of stuff.
31:36I didn't know if he could do it.
31:38He came in, he'd done it, he wasn't that povert.
31:41He did seven days.
31:43He got some readies for it, not much.
31:45Which he spunked on something like Call Of Duty
31:47or some of these kids from Fortnite.
31:49He had fun and he's not really spoke about the film
31:51since he's getting on with it.
31:52So has he got the acting bug, do you think?
31:54No, not at all. He's got no interest in it whatsoever.
31:57It was a beautiful experience for me and him
31:59just to hang out together and do a film.
32:01I'm really proud of it.
32:03I think it's a really different kind of work, you know?
32:06OK, so March Of Powders is out in cinemas on the 7th of March.
32:09I hope you go and see it, because I'd love to see that film
32:12doing well and other films like it.
32:14And it's great to have Danny back on the big screen.
32:19Get yourself out of the house.
32:21Don't go away, because up next we'll be joined by Vanessa Williams.
32:23We'll see you after the break.
32:26APPLAUSE
32:37Welcome back to the show.
32:38Let's get my next guest out.
32:40She's a global superstar who's conquered the world of TV,
32:42music, fashion and the States.
32:44That's right, we've saved the best for last.
32:48It's Vanessa Williams.
32:52CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
32:57Oh, my God.
32:59I love some sanity.
33:04Hi, everybody.
33:06Sit down, Vanessa.
33:07Vanessa, what a thrill to have you on the show.
33:09Thank you for joining us. Thank you.
33:11I first interviewed you, I don't know if I should even say
33:13how long ago it was.
33:14Oh, we're over the 60s club, so it's OK.
33:16It was 1991.
33:18Was it 91 or 94?
33:20No, I did you in 91 and 94.
33:22OK, OK.
33:23But you're back in London.
33:24Here's the exciting news.
33:25Vanessa's back in London, starring on the stage in the West End
33:28in The Devil Wears Prada, the musical.
33:30It's amazing.
33:31CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
33:33And, of course, if you remember,
33:35it's based on the fabulous film that had Meryl Streep in,
33:38and you have the Meryl Streep.
33:39I play Miranda Priestly, yes, I do.
33:41Miranda, who runs that big Vogue-like magazine.
33:44Runway magazine, yeah.
33:46I've been to see it, it's an amazing spectacle.
33:48We'll talk about the details of it,
33:50but you're doing eight shows a week, I think.
33:52Yeah.
33:53And that's, like, six nights and two matinees, is that right?
33:55Yeah, Sundays are our days off, and Wednesday matinees.
33:58You came to our Wednesday.
33:59I came to the Wednesday matinee.
34:01Now, do the audiences differ much from the evening shows
34:03and the matinee shows?
34:04Wednesdays are kind of the blue-rinse Wednesday matinees,
34:06as we say.
34:08Older, you know, I'm not saying anything,
34:10but I'm the same age as you, so...
34:12I mean, you're fair enough to say that,
34:14cos the reason why I booked a matinee, I thought,
34:16I'll be out too late.
34:17I'll be home in bed by about six, ideally.
34:20And the songs, were they written by Elton John?
34:22Those are all written by Elton John, yeah.
34:24And Shaina Taub did the lyrics,
34:26and it's just been such a pleasure to have people
34:29that know the franchise come and repeat lines.
34:33When I do the Cerulean monologue,
34:35there are people that are waiting for me to say,
34:37Cerulean, and I can hear all the...
34:39They remember it from the film.
34:41Yeah, and then the people that don't know the film
34:43are surprised at the plot twists.
34:45I'm sure the people that know, you know, when I fire Emily,
34:48and people that have never seen the movie go...
34:50HE GASPS
34:51..and then people laugh at the people that are shocked.
34:53So, it's really... It's fascinating.
34:55But the audience really loved, I think, the spectacle of it as well,
34:58because it really goes all out.
35:00It is like an old-time musical should be.
35:02Fashion, choreography, beautiful staging.
35:06But you've always been known for your fashion.
35:08I know you're in something which is about fashion now,
35:10but even last week at the BAFTAs,
35:11there were so many pictures of you looking spectacular.
35:13Thank you. It's quite a big part of your life, I guess,
35:15or just your public image?
35:16I love fashion, you know?
35:18And I'm wearing a Pama Rowland.
35:20She's actually done some of my costumes in the show.
35:24So, I've always loved fashion.
35:26It's just part of my career.
35:29Everyone's made an effort tonight,
35:31some more successfully than others.
35:33Keeley, you look amazing.
35:34So, fashion's quite a big part of your life, I guess.
35:36No, I do. I love fashion.
35:37I feel like I'm probably at the start of my fashion journey,
35:40but especially when I'm on the track, we all look the same,
35:43we all wear the same uniform,
35:44so I like the look good, feel good, do good kind of motto.
35:47You met Giorgio Armani, did you?
35:49Yeah, I did. Where was that?
35:51Milan.
35:52Well, of course, Milan, darling.
35:55He is the king of Milan.
35:57I'll say that with a...
35:58Yeah, there we go.
35:59He has a real presence.
36:0090 years old, still so involved in all of his work.
36:03Yeah, he was a real treat to meet.
36:05And what did he say to you?
36:07He came over and put his hand on my cheek and was like,
36:11That was, like, really cute, really sweet.
36:13So, the design, it looks spectacular, as I said.
36:16It's really amazing.
36:18But it must be draining, I would have thought. Is it not?
36:20I mean, I know you've always worked and you've always sung.
36:22Yeah.
36:23But that many shows when you're one of the two lead characters.
36:25Yeah, I mean, I hate taking any time off, so I'm always there.
36:29And, actually, we've been sold out
36:31since we started previews in October,
36:33so we just extended, so now you can actually buy tickets
36:36for the future.
36:37So, it's going through until Christmas next year, I think.
36:39Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:40How long are you staying in it for?
36:42We'll see, we'll see.
36:44I'm in negotiation mode right now, so we will see.
36:46Yeah, OK, OK.
36:47I love living here, I love the audiences.
36:50My fan base has been incredible.
36:53I love you back.
36:54So, you can see Devil Wears Prada at the Dominion,
36:56but you want a book soon to make sure you get Vanessa.
36:59That's right.
37:00And let's see how those negotiations go.
37:01This is The Devil Wears Prada.
37:03Miranda Priestly is the editor-in-chief
37:06of Runway, not to mention a legend.
37:10A million girls would kill for this job.
37:14Do you read Runway?
37:16Not often.
37:17Everybody wants to be us.
37:19No!
37:22It's Devil Wears Prada is in the Golden Globes.
37:24We'll see your attraction's next year right here
37:26on the Globe Flipping.
37:28Bye!
37:29See ya!
37:41Hi, where's this phone number I had?
37:42Awesome, girl.
37:46Strada, the dominion feather in London.
37:50And if, like me, you want to be in bed by 6 o'clock,
37:53the matinee is perfect.
37:55It was great.
37:56What an incredible career you had, though.
37:57What an amazing career.
37:58Because now I think of you as being
38:00such a successful stage icon, but before that, though,
38:03you first came to prominence as Miss America.
38:05When I was 20.
38:06So I know what it's like being famous at 22,
38:09which is your year.
38:10But you look back at yourself, and it's
38:13amazing how quickly you grow up, because you
38:15have to manage all the press, making sure
38:19that you know who you are, and to kind of be
38:22authentic in your own self.
38:23So I understand your responsibility
38:26and your struggle and the triumph.
38:29It's a lot of stuff packed in that package.
38:32So yeah, I was 20 when I won, and yeah,
38:35it's been, what, 41 years or so?
38:37Amazing.
38:38I think we should get Keeley to take your number in case
38:40she needs any advice, because you're obviously
38:41going to be a great mentor figure for her.
38:44Let's talk about your senior career, though.
38:45I did a little bit, I paid homage
38:47to one of your bigger hits at the beginning there.
38:49But that song is, that's such an earworm.
38:51Man, as soon as you hear that again, even my version,
38:53it gets stuck in your head.
38:55That must have been a great time, to be in the charts
38:58and to be singing and working as a performer back then,
39:00when the music was so great.
39:01Well, and I also heard that it was for a gravy commercial
39:04here back in the day.
39:05I think they used Save the Best for Laugh.
39:07I think it was a Bisto commercial.
39:08Yeah.
39:09You go and save the best for last.
39:12Does anyone remember that at all?
39:16But just then, just that then, that little bit of singing,
39:19that was, I think, let's do the whole song, come on.
39:22That's amazing.
39:23We're going to take a break now, but don't go away,
39:25because we've got more chat from our guests
39:26and some fabulous music from Joan Armatrading.
39:28So, see you after the break.
39:30CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
39:41Welcome back to the show.
39:42And as you can see, all my guests are still here with me.
39:44Harris, I want to ask you a question about something
39:46and find out whether there's any truth in this story I've heard.
39:49I read that you had an unusual experience at the cinema
39:55involving another patron.
39:57Do you know of which I speak?
39:58I do. I do know of which you speak.
40:00God, this is... It's heavy, this.
40:02Yeah.
40:03I just want to know whether it's true or not.
40:05No, it's true. It was a weird one.
40:06I went to watch a film at a cinema in London, Prince Charles.
40:11I don't know if you've been there. I know, it's a lovely cinema.
40:13Nice cinema.
40:14And it was a long film with a mate and took my shoes off.
40:19Longer film. I thought, it's OK to do.
40:21It was, like, three hours, you know what I mean?
40:23It felt acceptable.
40:25And I was... The film starts and I was playing...
40:29I was sort of fiddling with a seat in front of me
40:31and it was like a... I thought it was the seat.
40:34And then about 25 minutes in, I started to feel,
40:38like, this isn't a seat, this is, like, this is a head.
40:41And then...
40:43It was a head, like a human head, and like a bald head.
40:46And then I sort of looked over the seat
40:50and there was a man laying down there and...
40:54He's massaging someone's bald nut.
40:56Yeah, yeah, yeah.
40:58Wow.
40:59Yeah, and then as I sort of saw him, he, like, scurried away,
41:02which... Well, I don't blame him.
41:04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:05He went away to get you a glass of milk.
41:07LAUGHTER
41:09OK, and can I ask you one other thing?
41:11I know you might not be able to talk about it,
41:13but I've read online that you are currently one of the names
41:15being properly considered to play James Bond.
41:18CHEERING
41:20It would be nice, but I think you'd be a good Bond, Jonathan.
41:24Obviously, I'd be a better Bond.
41:25What are you laughing at?
41:27LAUGHTER
41:29Have you ever been asked to play any of those big roles like that, Danny?
41:32What, James Bond?
41:33Well, no, not James Bond.
41:34LAUGHTER
41:35Shit!
41:38No, but, like, in a franchise, like, if it's a Marvel film,
41:40have you ever had a lot of Marvel people come to you and be like,
41:42like, that? No, no, no, not yet, you know?
41:44OK. Harry Potter, did you get a Harry Potter call?
41:46Harry Potter? Yeah.
41:47LAUGHTER
41:49Well, you could have been, like, a groundsman or something.
41:52A gravedigger or something. Yeah, yeah.
41:55No, no, no, not yet.
41:57No, that's cool. You never know, though, Jon, you never know.
41:59Fingers crossed.
42:00I'd say it was a Bond, though, for sure. Yes!
42:02Do you reckon? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:04Well, I know... All day long, yeah.
42:06We've got something for the next one.
42:07Keely, you're a huge James Bond fan, aren't you?
42:09Yeah, huge fan of... I guess my hero is Daniel Craig.
42:12Yeah. Yeah, I like watching him.
42:14What's this picture? I've got a picture of you with the Aston Martin.
42:17And I think that is... Is that one of the ones they used in the film?
42:20It is. Wow. I got to drive...
42:22It's got all the gadgets.
42:24See, I'm driving around Milton Keynes
42:25and I'm pressing the gun button at the lights.
42:27LAUGHTER
42:29That was a lot of fun.
42:30The Aston Martin treated me to that after winning silver in Tokyo.
42:34That's amazing. That's cool.
42:35OK, here's the thing.
42:37Danny. Yes.
42:38Danny D, I've read this as well about you. Go on.
42:42That you have plans... Mm-hm.
42:45..outside of the acting world... Go on.
42:46..to run a certain kind of vacation destination for people.
42:51Yes.
42:52Yeah, I'm going to invest some dough into a caravan site,
42:55because I went to caravans, you know, as my holiday as a kid.
43:00Canvey Island.
43:02I realise what a tight-fucking old man I was now,
43:03because, you know, caravans were a thing for me.
43:06It's very much about nostalgia,
43:08so I've seen that Jeremy Clarkson's cracking right on with his farm.
43:11So I'm going to... So you're going to do a TV show about it as well?
43:14I'm going to try and run a caravan site, yes.
43:15Try and bring back the British holiday somewhere.
43:17But the caravan is a good holiday.
43:19You don't want to get stuck behind one on the motorway,
43:21but when you're actually there...
43:22No, I'm talking about the ones at the station.
43:24Yeah, oh, a stationary car. Statics, you know, little clubhouses.
43:26My sister's got one. Your sister's got one?
43:29Yeah. My mum's got one as well.
43:30So your mum...
43:32You're the richest man in this room.
43:34LAUGHTER
43:35And your mum holidays in a static caravan.
43:39It's a nice caravan, isn't it?
43:40I bet it's got utility room and all that.
43:42She lives in the caravan.
43:44Jesus Christ!
43:45LAUGHTER
43:47This is like elder abuse.
43:49You must be worth 200 million.
43:51What's wrong with you? Hold on, hold on, hold on.
43:53Get her somewhere with central heating.
43:55I remember we did buy mum her first house years ago,
43:58but she loved Dawnish Sands.
43:59There's bingo there, the swimming pool there, the beaches there.
44:02Honestly, she spends literally, you know, half the year there.
44:05She absolutely loves it and it's big business now, right?
44:07Well, we're going to find out. I'm investing in some rent.
44:10LAUGHTER
44:11So it's going to either backfire or not, but, yeah.
44:14The caravans I used to go in, in the 80s, we didn't have a car seat,
44:16so, you know, you'd have to piss and shit in a bucket.
44:19LAUGHTER
44:21But it didn't matter. It didn't matter.
44:23As long as you've got your family round you, you know, in close proximity.
44:26Well, apparently, that's... Not all shit in...
44:28LAUGHTER
44:31Four buckets in a circle.
44:33LAUGHTER
44:35That's what we did before Netflix.
44:36LAUGHTER
44:38Er...
44:39What's the name of your caravan park going to be?
44:41It's in the Isle of Sheppey.
44:43So I'm not allowed to reveal too much.
44:46I don't know, fuck all, yeah.
44:48LAUGHTER
44:49I'm going to go down there next week, have a little pipe,
44:51see what's going to... See what happens, really.
44:53That's exciting. I'm excited, but, listen, I've never run a business.
44:56I mean, he knows what's... I ain't got a clue what's going to happen.
44:59You know what you should do? While you've got him here,
45:01he'll come and sort the food out for you at the caravan park.
45:03He'd do it for you, wouldn't you?
45:05Well, like, drive up in a fucking chippy van.
45:07Yeah, yeah.
45:08Might be nice to get your hands dirty again, wouldn't it?
45:11LAUGHTER
45:12Well, yeah, looks like I may have to do,
45:14if you stop stealing those cats. Yes.
45:15Yes, they do.
45:17Everyone on this evening's show gets a free cat.
45:19Oh, yes!
45:20Look at that. It's a good-quality cat.
45:22Vanessa, have you ever stayed in a caravan on holiday?
45:25I suppose they call them trailers in this place.
45:27Campers or campervans? Campers or campervans.
45:29Oh, yes. Yes, back in the 70s.
45:32Did you enjoy it? Yeah.
45:33We had a house in the Poconos,
45:35and while my dad was building the house, we had a modified A-frame.
45:38Stayed in it. We stayed in it and loved it.
45:40Well, if you want to stay in one while you're in the UK, Isle of Sheppard.
45:42I know where to go. Get yourself down to Isle of Sheppard,
45:45I'll look after you, don't you worry about it.
45:47I mean, that's a reality show I'd quite like to see,
45:50the two of you... Yes.
45:51..hanging out in a caravan.
45:55It's been so lovely spending time with you this evening.
45:57Vanessa, continued success. How lovely to have you on.
45:59Maybe, if we could, could you come back and sing on the show?
46:02Absolutely. We would love that, wouldn't we?
46:04Yes!
46:06We would love that.
46:08Thanks to all my guests tonight, of course.
46:12We're not on next week, because The Brits will be here Saturday night
46:15on ITV, hosted by Jack Whitehall, so that's going to be fantastic.
46:18But now, with 25 Kisses from her new album,
46:20How Did This Happen? And What Does It Now Mean?
46:23A brilliant new album from Joan Armatrading.
46:25She's performing 25 Kisses.
46:26Here she is. It's Joan Armatrading.
46:28CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
46:32MUSIC PLAYS
46:56MUSIC CONTINUES
47:26MUSIC CONTINUES
47:56MUSIC CONTINUES
48:26MUSIC CONTINUES
48:56MUSIC CONTINUES
49:20APPLAUSE
49:26Come on, let's hide it.
49:56You