Married at First Sight (AU) - Season 12 Episode 21
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00:00:00You
00:00:07Wow, it's gorgeous you're beautiful the way he looked at me
00:00:14Wow
00:00:1620 singles from across Australia
00:00:19I'm full of freaking love right now
00:00:22Embarked on a pursuit of true love so perfect and so beautiful. That's my wife
00:00:29I think I've hit the jackpot today. He's just divine
00:00:36I was like, oh my god, that's that guy that ghosted me. It is totally my fault
00:00:42Despite Karina and Paul's unusual start, you know when a guy tells you everything you want to hear
00:00:49The pair's connection was undeniable
00:00:52You're like a 500 out of a 10
00:00:54By right up there as they quickly became one of the experiment's strongest couples
00:01:00Really? We're blossoming. It's been amazing
00:01:06But at the most recent dinner party I did something that I
00:01:11Absolutely regrets Paul made a shock revelation
00:01:14through punch in the eye
00:01:17in that bedroom door
00:01:20It's despicable behavior that should be called out it's very serious very very very serious
00:01:29Tonight
00:01:30I'm just like obsessed with him now. I've never felt like this before
00:01:34Marital bliss deepens for most of our couples. This feels so natural and good
00:01:40We're just two idiots and get along really well to be honest exactly what we said when we were matching them
00:01:45And then there was something that happened
00:01:49Clint exposed
00:01:50What happened? I come home and I instantly know
00:01:54Something's not right the unexpected turn of events that no one saw coming. I had to kind of divert my gaze
00:02:07We're gonna get straight to the matter at hand Paul's moment of truth
00:02:13I've
00:02:15Never done this in the past ever. I'm sorry
00:02:18I need to jump in here as he is held to account by the experts. I cannot sit here and listen to this
00:02:27justification
00:02:28This is toxic
00:02:30Inappropriate and unacceptable behavior. Is this the end of the road for Karina and Paul?
00:02:36I want you to tell us why we should not kick you out of the experiment right now
00:02:42You
00:03:02You look up a tea love. Yeah
00:03:04It's the morning of the fourth commitment ceremony. Let's have a gaze
00:03:08Yeah, that's good and we are now past the halfway point of the experiment they've just been there rebellious teen years
00:03:16Yeah, I speak their world. I
00:03:19Don't know why my fish at trauma class
00:03:22She's surviving another boganic dinner party
00:03:31After an intense dinner party Jackie and Ryan are waking up closer than ever
00:03:39I'm still pretty proud of us for the last week. We've had yeah
00:03:45Right, I really good we're really happy
00:03:49It feels like we're back in the honeymoon phase I
00:03:54Felt so supported by Ryan at the dinner party last night
00:03:59You really hurt me
00:04:01You did
00:04:04You'll let my wife talk you let my wife talk now, right
00:04:08Ryan definitely hadn't heard back the whole time. I mean that means the world. I'm glad you got to
00:04:14Say what you need to say to re so moving past it. I feel like we have an intellectual connection and emotional connection
00:04:22spiritual connection and in fact, like the thing that's made me feel most close to Ryan over the past week was I
00:04:29Saw something about data centers being built in Sydney and I was like, oh Ryan, do you know a data center?
00:04:34It's gonna actually did and I was like, it's great like make sure a conversation with him about data centers. So that was good
00:04:42I like the colors, too
00:04:51Despite Jackie and Ryan's positivity most of the group are still processing Paul's shock confession
00:04:58I
00:05:03Karina and I we had our first big fight and I
00:05:11Threw a punch in the eye in that bedroom door
00:05:17It's very serious, yeah, very very very serious
00:05:23This
00:05:28Morning the couples are still coming to terms with Paul's actions
00:05:33There's no reason for anyone to be hitting doors
00:05:37Especially in front of a woman
00:05:39Yeah, I don't know what he's thinking
00:05:42Paul's one of my mates, but
00:05:44He let me down by doing that and those actions
00:05:47I don't stand for like that's uncalled for in any situation pretty big thing. Like that's a huge adverse of emotion
00:05:55Punching the wall was not okay
00:05:57Yeah, you could see it though. You could see in his face how disappointing it wasn't himself
00:06:01Yeah, and they really regret it. You can see the remorse and the regret but just so disappointing. Yeah
00:06:09Paul obviously apologized to the group last night
00:06:12Which which is great that he did that and he let the group know what happened
00:06:16But he didn't need to apologize to the group. He needed to apologize to Karina, which he had done and she looks like she's forgiven
00:06:21him
00:06:22But um, but at the end of the day
00:06:24What he did is not good enough
00:06:28You know, if you step out of line you need to answer for those actions
00:06:32Commitment ceremony. It's the time for that
00:06:34Yeah experts. I think they're gonna probably go in on him pretty hard, which is justified really. Sorry. I hope they do
00:06:46Oh
00:07:01Did you sleep
00:07:03Good yeah tired. Yeah
00:07:06Would say this has probably been the hardest week so far with our relationship
00:07:12It's been a bit of a challenge
00:07:16I probably said a million times again if I have to but what I did is so unacceptable. It's so
00:07:22You know
00:07:26It's just this is something I'm gonna regret for the rest of my life
00:07:32I'm glad Paul owned up to it and everyone could see that he was
00:07:37You know, he was emotional and very very sorry
00:07:43There's gonna be a lot of questions coming your way
00:07:47Tonight's going to be quite challenging
00:07:51Yeah, I could feel the anxiety kicking in
00:07:54I know the experts are gonna come at me for and I don't blame them for it. Oh, yeah
00:08:01Yeah
00:08:11This morning Athena is waking up alone
00:08:19There's definitely a lot of turmoil in mine and Adrian's relationship at the moment
00:08:25Adrian and I haven't really reconnected since friends and family. We've been sleeping separately
00:08:32Adrian's feeling a lot of hurt. I feel a lot of hurt. I just wanted his family and friends to like me
00:08:38But they were really hostile
00:08:41You are focusing a lot on the negatives because he hasn't even shown up
00:08:45So let's just stop it when the families met they butted heads
00:08:51Actually, I'm just I don't need to listen
00:08:53Pointless conversation it is and while Adrian told his version of events read the family on family day
00:09:00And I was just a disaster bro, and a sister comes in straight on the defense like yelling at me
00:09:05I'm like, well, we're back. He tried to stop Athena telling her side to the group. I'm a family thing
00:09:11I don't want to bring that with everyone because our families were involved
00:09:14Have you not already done that?
00:09:17Adrian has one set of rules for himself and a different set for Athena
00:09:22I'm just so sick of Adrian controlling a narrative
00:09:26Last night was the first time I kind of was like well
00:09:29I'm not going to let you control this narrative and tell me I can't address the group and
00:09:34That's not gonna happen tonight at the commitment ceremony either. I
00:09:38Need the help from the experts
00:09:42But Adrian is still adamant the topic is off-limits
00:09:49I'm sitting on the couch of the experts. I'm not gonna touch on you know, the family day at all
00:09:56There's a touchy subject, you know family's most important thing
00:09:59Those things should be kept private and yeah, you just don't talk about my family
00:10:05It's that simple
00:10:09I hope Athena's on the same page
00:10:11I'm going to talk about it. I'm gonna really break it down for the experts
00:10:15I still have genuine feelings for Adrian. So hopefully we can help Adrian and I come closer. We can connect
00:10:23and both see eye to eye
00:10:26The
00:10:32Countdown is on to the fourth commitment ceremony
00:10:35I just sort of don't really know what we're gonna talk about with the experts because I feel like we're going really well good
00:10:40And as the couples get ready to decide whether to stay
00:10:44You've got a nice dress on to you always have nice dresses. Thank you or leave
00:10:49Look at you little hot tamale. Oh
00:10:53There's been a disappearing act
00:10:56One bride has gone missing
00:11:07Tony what happened? I really don't know what happened. I really don't know. I
00:11:16Haven't seen my enough since last night's dinner party
00:11:19We
00:11:22Found out the plot of why Tony doesn't want a 57. Why and what was it? He would like to have a baby. I
00:11:32Want to see my eyes there's no harm in that but Anna, you know, how beautiful you are how pretty you are
00:11:40But your personality gives me the shits man I
00:11:46Feel
00:11:48Sad
00:11:49I'm not happy about you know what I said what I've done and it just wasn't right
00:11:53But she's pushing you over the edge, you know
00:11:56But it's we're not we're not in a good place. I
00:11:59Thought I was gonna leave in a handshake and then I'll be friends. But right now it's
00:12:05Faded away. I am a little bit disappointed, you know, I mean at least say goodbye
00:12:18I
00:12:34My friends hi. Hi. Hello gents. Hey
00:12:39Greetings gentlemen, come and sit down
00:12:42Get yourselves comfortable
00:12:48Oh
00:13:05Hello lady, hi
00:13:18I
00:13:21Was not in it. It's my Marina. She didn't come in. She's not here. Yeah
00:13:28Where's um, she's gone already
00:13:35What'd you do now
00:13:40Well, greetings everyone, how do you cry
00:13:43Before we kick off we probably need to point out that there appears to be a bride that's missing
00:13:52There's no Marina
00:13:57Tony
00:13:59Yes, sir. Do you know much about it? I
00:14:03Have no idea
00:14:05We've I don't know where she is. She didn't show up so I can't give you an answer
00:14:13So I'm kind of a little bit disappointed, you know, even if it was not meant to be
00:14:17At least hug and a kiss and say goodbye. That would have been nice
00:14:25Why don't we get you up on the couch Tony we can unpack it now
00:14:35It's kind of weird not having Marina here I feel a little bit
00:14:40Sad yeah
00:14:43Well, how was your dinner party last night with her?
00:14:46we went around the room and we questioned each other and how everything was going and
00:14:50um, it came to my this it like to my
00:14:53Turn to talk and I'm not kind of I I mean, I've I've just been trying so hard through this whole experiment
00:15:01And I just was just too much use
00:15:13You
00:15:15Did you really think I wasn't gonna come
00:15:20Did you really think I was gonna give him the last word
00:15:36I kind of I mean, I've just been trying so hard for this whole experiment
00:15:43And I just was just too much use
00:15:58Did you really think I wasn't gonna come
00:16:03Did you really think I was gonna give him the last word
00:16:07You
00:16:12Know don't stand up sit down and come and talk to me don't stand up
00:16:26Hello everybody nice to see you welcome have a seat
00:16:34Welcome back Marina
00:16:36You
00:16:51All right
00:16:54Unexpected but we are very delighted that you're here we are
00:16:58Thank you. Would you like to finish what you were talking about Tony and then we'll go to you
00:17:06Well at the dinner party, you know, I kind of did to me that she's a beautiful lady, but just the personality is not there
00:17:11for me
00:17:15Every time I did something it was always a
00:17:18Challenge for me, you know, like if I did something nice or if I'd said something, you know
00:17:22If I made a cheeky comment or I was trying to be funny or something like that
00:17:27It upset her
00:17:29Then I've been quiet this whole way through and yesterday was probably one the first time I've spoken out
00:17:33I mean, she's a very strong strong woman. Maybe too much of a personality for me. I
00:17:45Mean he doesn't like my personality
00:17:53Like you don't even know who you're with you've got no idea who I am
00:18:00He's he's
00:18:02He's put a lid on me in such a short time I've allowed
00:18:07somebody to shut me down and
00:18:10He doesn't get a right to tell the person who does talk to stop talking the person that does dance
00:18:16Stop dancing and he's gonna never stop doing anything. No, I'm talking. I'm talking
00:18:21You've mocked the whole experiment you've wasted everybody's time everybody's time, but especially mine
00:18:31Just be honest
00:18:32You don't have a problem with my personality. You have a problem with my age
00:18:38Family and friends
00:18:40discovery
00:18:43I
00:18:46Family and friends discovery
00:18:52He said I really want to have a baby
00:18:57When did this light bulb go off
00:19:06Holy shit, Tony clearly I can't reproduce
00:19:10How do you think that makes a woman feel I
00:19:21Didn't know that you wanted to have kids at 53 I
00:19:27Thought I spoke to you about it not once no, this is new information for us. I'm sorry
00:19:33Come on, give me a break. Is that just another another excuse?
00:19:40I
00:19:41Came into this experiment and I tried
00:19:44My whole heart I tried
00:19:47But you hurt me when you watch our wedding. You'll see what will I say?
00:19:52That it was a real there was something real there
00:19:56something real
00:19:58You'll see you'll see the aura you'll feel it through the screen when you see it
00:20:04The smile he didn't laugh at anything he smiled and you know what I was beaming because because I came into this experiment
00:20:13Beaming so you felt there was a connection. Oh my god. There was a penetration
00:20:26There wasn't a connection it was like it was like fool
00:20:31He are here it was huge it was huge
00:20:37So the connection the chemistry that you felt there was something oh, yeah
00:20:44It disappeared as soon as we found out my age
00:20:50It's like how old are you 57?
00:20:53He he had my hand and he just dropped it
00:20:58He turned green you want to deny it go right ahead
00:21:04His demeanor changed
00:21:07his
00:21:08everything
00:21:10anyway
00:21:11This is just going nowhere. We're going in circles. You are I've got to say it's it's really sad
00:21:17To see where the two of you have landed and I didn't want it to go this way
00:21:21I know I know neither of you wanted it to go this way
00:21:24We had some hope for this relationship
00:21:29And we could see it especially when you were having fun
00:21:34Laughing and really enjoying each other's company you had moments. There was a there was some good times
00:21:42Well on that note what we need to know is whether you're gonna stay or leave
00:21:48So let's go to you first Tony
00:21:55I've pretty much made my my point, and I'm clear so I'm
00:22:03Leave
00:22:06We've had a rollercoaster ride of a experiment, but unfortunately oh, we didn't have a connection
00:22:17And Marina stay or leave what do you want to do?
00:22:25You're a 53 year old man
00:22:32Behave like one
00:22:41Good riddance oh
00:22:45Okay, that's how I feel oh, that's Wow
00:22:55It is sadly you got to this point when we match our couples
00:23:00We want them to get over the line, but it's been an absolute pleasure having you in the experiment you two have bought
00:23:07a different
00:23:09perspective to the experiment
00:23:11with experience and maturity
00:23:14And a level of fun. We really wish you all the very best for the future
00:23:19Thanks for everything
00:23:24You
00:23:32Leaving are you not coming back right now? Thank You Marina. I'm I don't know
00:23:46I'm feeling disappointed. I didn't want it to end this way. You know I don't like leaving people upset
00:23:55I really do feel for my dad, and I have she does find somebody there's always someone out there, so good luck to her
00:24:09Next yeah, I'm really thinking future, and I felt my feelings just went I
00:24:14Did Wow romantic bonds deepened raise mom. She's got me on the text messages already. She just said thanks for taking care of her baby girl
00:24:23Then
00:24:24Now Athena, I've got it. I've got to jump in the experts apply the pressure. This is the third time
00:24:30I'm gonna have to ask this question, and it's a pretty straightforward one as
00:24:35They call out bad behavior like the lack of empathy. They're just boggles my mind
00:24:41Sorry, I've just got to jump in here Veronica
00:24:43I'm watching you as I'm listening to Elliot story, and are you aware of the way you're responding non-verbally?
00:24:52and I
00:24:53Want you to tell us?
00:24:56Why?
00:24:57The three experts should not kick you out of the experiment right now
00:25:02You
00:25:21Our next couple up on the couch Jamie and Dave
00:25:32No going very well, thanks, so you've had time with family and friends this week
00:25:38Tell us about that big week. It's been good. Yeah
00:25:41Yeah
00:25:42Like my sister mom auntie and dad think they were genuinely surprised like how much we've worked through talked about and even my sister
00:25:51Was I okay like like this is like serious?
00:25:55Now I'm really thinking future, and I felt like my feelings just went I
00:26:00Did Wow massively okay, I don't I'm just like obsessed with him now like you know like
00:26:09I just I don't know I've never felt like this before
00:26:14Dave for you listening to Jamie talk in such a positive way. Do you feel like you're meeting her at the same level on that?
00:26:22Yeah, I feel like
00:26:23It makes me feel warm and fuzzy and excited thinking about the future
00:26:28Now I've taken everything into consideration like my dog and waking up on my bike when she's there
00:26:33Or what's you know what I mean like all these things
00:26:37It's very clear that this
00:26:39Relationship has become real
00:26:42You're now starting to look to the future. Yeah, it's beautiful
00:26:52Are either of you foreseeing any challenges
00:26:58For me
00:27:17It's beautiful so with that we're gonna go to the decision you two Jamie will go with you first
00:27:27And to you Dave yeah, I'm staying oh yes you are
00:27:35Keep looking after each other really good job both of you. Thank you so much. Thanks guys
00:27:48Our next couple up
00:27:54Jack and Ron
00:27:58You
00:28:02Hello are you two
00:28:04Well, where do we begin? Where do we begin? Well? It's been a really positive week for us. Yeah, I'm quite proud of us
00:28:12Explain this
00:28:14Commitment ceremony last week was quite emotional one for me
00:28:17Brian hit my back that night and was really supportive. It was the new side
00:28:22And compassionate side of him that I haven't seen yet and
00:28:27To have him show up for me this week was just such a game changer, and then we've basically just been having fun
00:28:44I'm not coming in there to attack
00:28:52We may or may not have progressed our relationship intimately as well
00:29:04Yeah, it kind of just happened, and it was it was good it was
00:29:08refreshing
00:29:10No, and um yeah, I think it was a big moment for us. It was yeah, just the cuddling afterwards, and then it's uh happened
00:29:17a second time
00:29:22I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm happy. I'm happy about it. This is good. I mean look we've not seen
00:29:35You know you're starting to really connect. It's fantastic
00:29:39We'll go to the decision. Let's go with you first, right?
00:29:45All right, I want to continue along this really nice direction. We've taken so I've written to stay
00:29:52Little smiley face
00:29:54Jackie what do you got for a stay or leave?
00:29:56Yeah, I said stay as well. Oh nice. I'm way better than mine. So what you're doing you keep doing it good on you guys
00:30:10Our next couple up on the couch
00:30:14Rain Jeff
00:30:17I
00:30:21Welcome back to the couch. Thank you
00:30:24How's everything going?
00:30:26everything
00:30:27Everything's going really really well. We had our friends and family week which was amazing
00:30:32I knew how much my family would love Jeff straight away. Yeah
00:30:38Like I can honestly take him anywhere and everyone loves him raise mum's already um she's got me on the text messages already
00:30:45Texting each other. Yeah, she asked for Jeff's number and I gave it to her
00:30:50And then she messaged him just like what did she say?
00:30:53Oh, she just said that um, she was like it was it was really nice to meet me and you know
00:30:58She walked away knowing that we're using good hands and thanks for taking care of her baby girl. Yeah, that was really nice
00:31:05That's really lovely. Yeah, I'm reassuring for all of you. Yeah
00:31:10Spending basically every end of the day with Ray and it's yeah, it's been awesome. So yeah
00:31:40The bond is so palpable between the two of you and I think we can all feel it here, which is wonderful. Thank you
00:31:47Thank you so much. I think we're gonna go to the decision guys. Sure. Why don't we start with you Jeff?
00:31:57I'm gonna stay
00:31:59straightforward
00:32:02Now it's been an amazing ride so far and yeah each day gets better and I'm looking forward to the next few days weeks and months
00:32:10we
00:32:12Thank you and to you Ray
00:32:13Yeah, I'm having an amazing time and I'm loving getting to know Jeff more and more each week
00:32:18we just get stronger and stronger and I'm really happy to be where we are today, so
00:32:25Stay yeah, brilliant. Yeah. Thank you so much
00:32:40Our next couple up on the couch
00:32:46Athena and Adrian damn
00:32:55Hi guys, I know you guys
00:33:05Obviously we have a lot to unpack we saw you guys last night at the dinner party
00:33:10but I would love to
00:33:12To talk first about how the meet the family
00:33:16experience went
00:33:31Obviously we have a lot to unpack we saw you guys last night at the dinner party, but I would love to
00:33:38To talk first about how the meet the family experience went I
00:33:50Mean for me on my luck, I'm not gonna go into much of the details, but it just didn't go well
00:33:54It didn't go the way I expected
00:33:58Yeah
00:34:01It would be great to know from you what actually happened because we haven't seen any of it
00:34:07I'm not gonna go into the details of it's my family and her family
00:34:09I think it's a little bit disrespectful to see if they go back and forth now
00:34:12Like it's one of the cases where we're never gonna see eye-to-eye on this
00:34:15That's why that you accept and you move on or you just go back and forth
00:34:19I'm not asking you to see eye to eye on what?
00:34:22What happened because it was filmed?
00:34:25We will see it. It's not like you're protecting anybody from seeing what happened
00:34:29Yeah, of course
00:34:32I
00:34:34Sisters were being intimidated and I felt her sister was being a bit aggressive
00:34:39So as family members protecting each of you going after each other or challenging one another
00:34:45Yeah, I mean it felt that way to both of us
00:34:51So neither one of you felt or supported by the other in the entire exchange with your families no no no Athena
00:35:02You
00:35:04Know yeah in hindsight, we could have definitely done much more to prevent that
00:35:11In a real
00:35:13fully developed relationship
00:35:16You guys would be the family. This would be the official priority
00:35:23Yeah, but the way it's been in the last two weeks like it hasn't been healthy and we're both aware of that
00:35:29Um, but just remember the good times because last two weeks has been all about the bad times all about what we're not doing for
00:35:34each other
00:35:35Where it's like we need to get back to that arm that and we look across the room and just smile and happy to see each
00:35:41other
00:35:45I'm not buying that
00:35:50Man look how hurt she is
00:35:53But what I've developed a myself to you in our relationship to you, bro
00:35:55Look how hurt she is man. You're hiding. She's hiding stuff deep down. I can see it in her face
00:36:04Very far we both upset it hasn't been the best now again, mate
00:36:06Is that a cut instead of you said I said now give us a solution boat. Give us give us a solution
00:36:12Let us let her tell her how she really feels in
00:36:17What let us let us say how she really feels
00:36:21Yeah, I've never stopped that I can't control what she speaks. What are you talking about?
00:36:26She looks at you for permission to speak mate
00:36:29Mate that way looks yes, that's this that's bullshit, bro
00:36:35That's good Oscar
00:36:40Where's bullshit I let her speak however she wants. All right guys
00:36:45Athena that's a very very
00:36:48well serious
00:36:50statement which is
00:36:53Do you feel you need permission to speak when you with Adrian
00:37:14It's not that I feel like I need permission it's that sometimes I feel like
00:37:20It'll cause a rift between us if I
00:37:26Go into too much detail about certain things and I don't want to hurt Adrian's feelings, you know, they care about him
00:37:39Right
00:37:44So
00:37:46Here's a question
00:37:47Why do you Athena like Adrian?
00:37:58So it's a me this morning when I woke up I
00:38:03Woke up feeling still hurt and sad, but I also woke up feeling hurt and sad for Adrian. Does that make sense?
00:38:11so even though I felt like I
00:38:14I don't like Adrian's behavior right now
00:38:17But I obviously still care for Adrian because I'm worried about how he's feeling in this moment. So Athena if I just go back
00:38:24to a very important question
00:38:28Why do you Athena like him and
00:38:34Adrian have you ever told me you like me?
00:38:36No, this is
00:38:39Just that now Athena, I've got it. I've got to jump in and I've got to say something. Okay, I'm gonna
00:38:47This is the third time I'm gonna have to ask this question and it's a pretty straightforward one
00:38:53Why do you like Adrian now? What you're doing is you're not answering the question which makes me think you don't like him
00:39:00So what is it?
00:39:02So in the last 10 days there hasn't been a lot of moments that I've liked with Adrian that's the honest truth
00:39:08It's not for negative. I know but that's so
00:39:12now
00:39:16Athena why do you like Adrian?
00:39:23Let me let me start
00:39:25Any
00:39:28Words that come to mind that describes why you like him
00:39:31Yeah, and you've got half the experiment to pull out some things that you like about him
00:39:43I
00:39:45Like in the moments when he doesn't recognize I'm watching he looks at me sometimes in a way that has true sincerity
00:39:56So I'm not as bad as all you think
00:40:01I do like
00:40:04That you love and respect your family so much and that's why I hurt me so much that friends and family went the way it did
00:40:20We got there
00:40:23Adrian
00:40:24What do you like Athena? I don't say I like that. She's loving she's caring sympathetic. Um, you know, she thinks about other people. It's good. I
00:40:33Thought you needed to hear that
00:40:35Because it's very important for you to remember that you care for one another
00:40:40And it's something to jump on and embrace rather than staying in this back and forth
00:40:48Well look
00:40:50Right now we're gonna go to the decision and we're gonna start with you first Adrian I
00:40:59Thought how would this couch session go and I thought it'd probably go somewhat. All right, so I said stay
00:41:09What about you Athena
00:41:11I
00:41:19Will be very honest today it was a really tough decision to me
00:41:24It really was
00:41:27But I wrote stay
00:41:35Yeah, I
00:41:37Don't feel like we really gave each other the opportunity in the past week to do the work that we said we were going to
00:41:42do
00:41:44We haven't really had an opportunity to show up for each other because of the events at friends and family
00:41:50So I do feel like we owed it to one another to try
00:41:55again
00:41:59You've been through a lot this week
00:42:02You know the family and friends nearly blew you up
00:42:05But what I do notice is that once you started to see each other in a different light a more positive light
00:42:14You actually start to really
00:42:16Come together
00:42:18There are clearly feelings and obviously you care for one another
00:42:23So I think that's really what you need to focus on
00:42:27We really don't want to see this cycle again
00:42:31Do you think you can break this cycle? Do you think you can?
00:42:34Do it differently?
00:42:36Understand no question
00:42:40It's good to have you for another week go back to the group
00:42:53Next what happened Clint's shock secret revealed I come home and I instantly know
00:43:01Something's not right
00:43:04And later
00:43:08I cannot sit here and listen to this justification. This is not normal behavior. This is a toxic
00:43:17Inappropriate and unacceptable behavior
00:43:28Our next couple up on the couch
00:43:31I
00:43:33Elliott and Veronica
00:43:44Well, where do we start because last time you're in sitting in front of us we made some progress
00:43:50but
00:43:51We certainly saw the two of you in a difficult space at the dinner party
00:44:00Yeah, we're we're in the trenches at the moment
00:44:06Things have been hard. Yeah, definitely
00:44:11What's your take on this Veronica
00:44:14Yeah
00:44:16It's been really hard this whole week. We obviously had the tasks that we had to do
00:44:23and
00:44:25The
00:44:27The confessions letter was very difficult for me because I felt that Elliot hadn't shared a part of himself any part
00:44:37Through the letter. I didn't feel that I gained any additional understanding of him
00:44:45Which was disappointing for me
00:44:47Ellie do you feel like you showed enough of yourself in this letter task?
00:44:53Um, yeah, like for me this wasn't a task that I was, you know in my element I wasn't super comfortable and
00:45:01so I I
00:45:05Really put myself out there with the with the letter that I wrote I
00:45:09kind of put all my
00:45:12you know fears and
00:45:14All my anxiety aside and I and I wrote
00:45:18About like probably the most traumatic memory that I have
00:45:25So when I was young probably about eight years old my younger sister she fell into a coma
00:45:32It was a like
00:45:35absolutely harrowing experience
00:45:42I
00:45:43Was in the doctor's office with her and my mom when we had the news delivered and
00:45:49It was like like the whole room just erupted like we were all just like crying our eyes out
00:45:59And it was it was just like so traumatizing
00:46:07Like where I got to was how that informs me today was
00:46:11You know, I never want to feel like I've lost control of my emotions
00:46:18And
00:46:22To be honest the the way that the reaction that I got from Veronica
00:46:29Verbatim her words were cute
00:46:33That
00:46:38That hurt a lot like that was like a knife in my chest
00:46:42Like I felt like I just put myself out on the limb I felt like yeah extremely vulnerable
00:46:50and and for her to say that it was just like I
00:46:54Had you know been kind of stabbed in the chest?
00:46:59It just felt extremely
00:47:02Like I wasn't being heard like I was just telling a brick wall
00:47:07Sorry, I've just got to jump in here Veronica
00:47:11I'm watching you as I'm listening to Elliot's story and
00:47:15Are you aware of the way you're responding non-verbally? I?
00:47:22Am yeah
00:47:25All right, it's sharing some stuff that must be pretty hard to talk about and you're sitting here diminishing his experience
00:47:35And that's not really what this tasks about
00:47:42You know, it's about listening and understanding and accepting the other person where they're at and
00:47:49Veronica
00:47:51If it actually feels like you're being quite judgmental here
00:47:56Maybe I am. Yeah, I don't feel that I know anything more about Elliot. You know, I'm really trying I
00:48:06Didn't gain an understanding of how that event affected him in any capacity
00:48:13You said I felt like the world was ending but what does that mean to you?
00:48:22You don't think I think that the world is ending is him opening up and being vulnerable for you
00:48:31Yeah, it's like and for someone to like opens up themselves up like that
00:48:35Especially when they've said like it's it's not an easy thing for them to do
00:48:38It's just like that does it like the lack of empathy there just boggles my mind
00:48:43That that hurt a lot
00:48:46I
00:48:49Don't understand you Elliot, so I'm trying to understand you. I'm disappointed because I don't feel like I've learned anything new about you
00:48:57Like give me a little bit of something something like your favorite color
00:49:04Like something that I can come away from
00:49:08That gives me a little bit of a semblance of who you are because I'm really struggling to understand
00:49:14Veronica I've got to jump in because I'm listening to you there and you're saying you haven't
00:49:21Learned anything about him when he told you about his sister at age eight
00:49:27He and the family are absolutely imploding. That's a lot of self-disclosure
00:49:37How are you not understanding that
00:49:41In a
00:49:44Relationship you must be able to work together
00:49:47You've got to empathize
00:49:49That's got to be a big key part of it and it's not enough empathy
00:49:54There's just not
00:49:56It is something which is going to require you to start really getting in the shoes of one another
00:50:03Empathy is gonna actually set you free here as a couple
00:50:07Have
00:50:09You heard the feedback we've given you tonight Veronica, yes, does it make sense? Yeah, of course it does
00:50:19After reading or hearing his letter your reaction, how has that made him feel?
00:50:31Terrible why
00:50:33Because
00:50:36That's what that was the most how the the most difficult story that he had for me about his life
00:50:44And why was your reaction terrible for him?
00:50:57Because he felt like I wasn't acknowledging his story
00:51:04Minimizing it or diminishing it, right?
00:51:07If you're gonna actually move forward here, you've got to empathize and understand
00:51:12He's going at a different pace
00:51:17Yeah, okay
00:51:22And I apologize for offending you thank you and I'm grateful that you met me where you could
00:51:29So
00:51:31I'm learning like
00:51:33I've realized now my mistake and I need to empathize with him and I accept that I've made a mistake
00:51:40Yeah
00:51:43On that note, let's go to the decision and we're gonna go with you first Elliot
00:51:49Yeah, it's definitely been a journey
00:51:52Like I have learned a lot and I think we've still got a bit more to learn as well. So
00:51:58Well
00:52:00What have you got for us Veronica stay or leave we're not we're not well you and I
00:52:06We're gonna have to like go back into the trenches and figure it out, but I'm like here to do that. So I wrote stay
00:52:13great
00:52:19You've got a big week ahead of you empathy is the key here
00:52:23Empathy understanding on that note go back to the group and we look forward to seeing a very different couple next week
00:52:31Off you go
00:52:35Tonight felt good. I
00:52:37Feel like the experts gave some really good advice
00:52:40Last week has been like extremely negative like in cinders on the ground
00:52:45But I wouldn't have written stay unless I thought there was a you know a shot for us to turn things around
00:52:51I'm honestly hopeful
00:52:55Our next couple up on the couch
00:52:59Lauren and Clint
00:53:06Hello
00:53:08Welcome to the couch. Thank you
00:53:11Have you guys been?
00:53:13How was this week for you both?
00:53:16After you
00:53:20Well, we've lived together for a week we've had two dinner parties two commitment ceremonies and three tasks so it's been a lot
00:53:28How did you find the tasks
00:53:33That were good we did what we were
00:53:36Comfortable with plus a bit more. So we're bringing snow each other and getting along really well good
00:53:43I wonder a Lauren. Do you feel so far a romantic connection with Clint?
00:53:50Um
00:53:56Not yet
00:53:59We're you know building a friendship at this point, okay, why not
00:54:09Well, there was something that happened yeah, but
00:54:14Like related to our but
00:54:18That affected us both I
00:54:22Come home, but I instantly know something's not right. I
00:54:28Had to kind of divert my gaze away I
00:54:33Pretty much like kind of just shut down
00:54:37What happened
00:54:47Clint was having a really tough time
00:54:50And I was like, oh, I don't know what to say. I'm so sorry
00:54:55I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry
00:54:59I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry
00:55:06You
00:55:09I
00:55:12Didn't know what to say
00:55:14Clint was doing the dishes.
00:55:18What usually is a spark for me in a relationship is, like, with an alpha male personality type.
00:55:36But with Clint, that alpha-ism, I just don't feel like it's, you know, super there.
00:55:51It's OK, Clint. Come to my apartment after. I'll need the night off.
00:56:02Clint, do you consider yourself masculine alpha male?
00:56:07Well, I guess it's defining that. I need to Google alpha male.
00:56:18Lauren, let's try and get a little definition from you in terms of what it means for you to have an alpha male.
00:56:27What does it look like?
00:56:29I think an alpha is a leader in the relationship.
00:56:34Someone that will organize everything and, like, take control of everything and, like, is, you know, very dominating.
00:56:40As a man, it's just something that you are or you're not.
00:56:45Wow.
00:56:47But in our house, like, Clint does the washing and, like, I come home and my laundry is folded.
00:56:53Whereas I feel like in what I would consider my ideal relationship, it would be the other way around.
00:56:59OK.
00:57:02Is it natural, Clint, for you to be in a leadership role in a relationship?
00:57:09Absolutely in a relationship, for sure. I've definitely been doing that in business and in, you know, sport.
00:57:16It comes quite natural for me.
00:57:19Like, if we're in a relationship, I'd want to be the protect, the provider and looking after the family,
00:57:25whereas the wife could look after the children and do that sort of thing.
00:57:31But, yeah, I can take the initiative and do that. I like doing that.
00:57:34I think the message is pretty clear that she needs for you to do that.
00:57:37Yeah.
00:57:38Proactively.
00:57:39Yeah.
00:57:40Question, Lauren.
00:57:42Do you feel that Clint can step into that role that you want him to?
00:57:49That leadership role?
00:57:53Um...
00:57:59Yes.
00:58:03No.
00:58:05A long pause.
00:58:07She's going to say no.
00:58:16See, it's tricky because you're coming in later in the experiment.
00:58:19It is very early days. You haven't had really much of a chance to figure out whether or not you see the possibility here
00:58:25and it can grow the spark that so far has been missing.
00:58:29Yeah.
00:58:31So you kind of need to snip each other out.
00:58:36All right.
00:58:37We're going to get to the decision now and we're going to start with you, Lauren.
00:58:42OK.
00:58:43Um, well...
00:58:46Um...
00:58:51She's going to stay.
00:58:53And Clint...
00:58:54Yeah, no, I'm going to go straight to it.
00:58:57Stay.
00:58:59We want this to be a romantic connection for you.
00:59:02We want that possibility for you both, so seek it out.
00:59:06You sometimes have to put in the time, the work, the curiosity.
00:59:10Have a great week and you can go back to the group.
00:59:14Thank you very much.
00:59:17Go on, guys.
00:59:19I think that Clint has traits of an alpha male, so I'm willing and committed to give it another week.
00:59:26But I need, like, a very alpha male.
00:59:30So hopefully he doesn't do any more dishes.
00:59:38Our next couple up on the couch...
00:59:45..Beth and TJ.
00:59:51Hello, hello.
00:59:52Hi.
00:59:53How are you?
00:59:54We're very well. How are you?
00:59:56Yeah, we're just too idiots to get along really well, to be honest.
00:59:59Pretty much.
01:00:00Exactly what we said when we were matching them.
01:00:06Beth, this is your first relationship.
01:00:09How has it been?
01:00:10Um...
01:00:13..it's amazing.
01:00:15I've never had a relationship, so this is so new to me.
01:00:18But, I don't know, it's really taken me by surprise at how comfortable I feel around him.
01:00:22How have you found moving in with someone and doing the living?
01:00:26We're actually living very well together.
01:00:29He cooks, like, amazing food, which is great, cos I can't cook at all.
01:00:34Winning.
01:00:35I've got a little chef. I love it.
01:00:36Little?
01:00:37Yeah.
01:00:38Big chef.
01:00:39Big chef.
01:00:43Big chef, babe.
01:00:44Don't want to kill you, Rico.
01:00:46And I guess that begs the question, of course,
01:00:49have you guys been intimate with one another yet?
01:00:52Yeah, we slept together, yeah.
01:00:54Yeah.
01:00:58No, but it was good. I think we both needed it.
01:01:00Yeah.
01:01:02It really sounds like you guys are, right now, kind of coasting, which is good.
01:01:07I think we can go to the decision.
01:01:09We're going to start with you, Beth.
01:01:11Um...
01:01:14..easy decision.
01:01:17Lovely.
01:01:19TJ?
01:01:20We get along well, so satay for me too.
01:01:23Fantastic.
01:01:24You guys, thank you so much.
01:01:27Keep doing what you're doing and have a great week.
01:01:29Perfect. Thanks, guys.
01:01:31APPLAUSE
01:01:45All right.
01:01:46Our last couple up on the couch.
01:01:53Karina and Paul.
01:01:54APPLAUSE
01:02:02We're going to get straight to the matter at hand.
01:02:07We heard something last night at the dinner party.
01:02:10Something very serious.
01:02:13Paul, you spoke of an incident
01:02:15that had happened between you and Karina.
01:02:19And when we heard it, we were shocked.
01:02:23Explain.
01:02:26I was shocked.
01:02:27I was shocked.
01:02:29Explain.
01:02:38Paul, you spoke of an incident
01:02:40that had happened between you and Karina.
01:02:43Explain.
01:02:45So...
01:02:48..I was in the car with Karina in the presence of other people.
01:02:52Um...
01:02:59There was music playing in the car as well.
01:03:07She made a comment about the music
01:03:11and thought it was funny to say
01:03:15that she had slept with this person.
01:03:19I...
01:03:21..felt disrespected and extremely embarrassed.
01:03:27Anyway, we went back to the apartment.
01:03:29She tried to apologise.
01:03:33And I felt trapped and I completely lost control.
01:03:42And I...
01:03:44And I...
01:03:50I...
01:03:55..punched a hole in the bedroom door.
01:04:06I'll be doing that.
01:04:09Yeah, that's...
01:04:14HE SIGHS
01:04:18Did you hurt your hand?
01:04:20A little bit. Look, it's...
01:04:22My hand is the last of my worries at the moment.
01:04:24Like, I don't... I don't... It's not about me right now.
01:04:27Like, it's...
01:04:28I'm not concerned about the well-being of your hand.
01:04:31I am concerned about how hard you hit that door.
01:04:36HE SIGHS
01:04:39Karina, did you expect him to judge you?
01:04:43About... For your sexual past?
01:04:46Well...
01:04:47HE SIGHS
01:04:48..no. I think it was a...
01:04:50I wasn't... Yeah.
01:04:51I think it was a disrespectful thing and I said it really sounds to me
01:04:55like judgement underneath all of that.
01:04:57No, Alessandra, I promise you, it's not...
01:05:00It's obviously... It's not her past.
01:05:02The reason why I felt so disrespected is because of how...
01:05:06It's because of how she said it, the way she voiced it.
01:05:11Obviously, Karina could see that I was extremely annoyed at that
01:05:14and she tried to apologise,
01:05:17but I didn't feel any sincerity in the apologies
01:05:20because it was... There was a...
01:05:22It was a, I'm sorry, but you've done that in the past.
01:05:25You've told me you've done this. I'm sorry, but...
01:05:32So, I couldn't take the apology seriously
01:05:34and I obviously got frustrated because of that.
01:05:38Does not matter. Does not matter what she said.
01:05:43Does not matter how many times she walked outside,
01:05:46how many times she tried to get you to calm down
01:05:49and you weren't having it. It does not matter.
01:05:51I totally agree with you, Alessandra.
01:05:53It does not matter how disrespected you felt.
01:05:56You do not punch walls.
01:05:58You do not punch doors. No, of course.
01:06:00Period. Full stop.
01:06:03That intimidates.
01:06:10Karina, how did it feel for you watching this play out?
01:06:17A bit disheartening.
01:06:21And...and uncomfortable.
01:06:25Yeah, of course.
01:06:27I don't condone that behaviour.
01:06:30But we are still learning about one another
01:06:34and we're learning about the boundaries
01:06:37and what should be said or what shouldn't be said.
01:06:41I think it's just that he felt a little bit uncomfortable
01:06:45and embarrassed, maybe.
01:06:47This is real tough to watch.
01:06:53She's trying to normalise it.
01:06:56She's trying to normalise it.
01:07:00Seeing how he reacts when I bring up my past
01:07:04with people that I've been with
01:07:06has shown me that he does have strong feelings towards me.
01:07:10It just shows that, like, it is a real relationship.
01:07:16Like, we are passionate.
01:07:20Like, I'm European.
01:07:22You know, they are passionate
01:07:24and that's kind of a little bit like what relationships are.
01:07:31Oh, I'm sorry. I need to jump in here.
01:07:36I cannot sit here and listen to this justification from you.
01:07:43This is not normal behaviour, sweetheart.
01:07:47This is not how you show love.
01:07:50This is deeply troubling.
01:07:53And Karina, as a Latina, I know passion.
01:07:59This is not passion.
01:08:06I'm not scared of Paul.
01:08:09He hasn't given me any reason to be,
01:08:12except for that moment and what happened.
01:08:16That situation.
01:08:20So, yeah.
01:08:23I don't know what to say.
01:08:26I don't condone what happened.
01:08:30And there's no buts.
01:08:31But, yeah, I'm just...
01:08:34I'm sad.
01:08:35Like, I'm sad that this has happened
01:08:37and I feel uncomfortable facing you guys,
01:08:42if I'm completely honest.
01:08:44Yeah. Uncomfortable is probably the word.
01:08:48And even, like, even yesterday,
01:08:50I was so anxious walking into the dinner party.
01:08:53How is everyone going to react?
01:08:58But he has owned up to his actions and what he did.
01:09:03And so, I don't know.
01:09:05It's like, yeah, I don't know.
01:09:07Like, I can see it that he's sad and, yeah.
01:09:13I just didn't want it to get to this point, yeah.
01:09:17I didn't want it to get to this point.
01:09:20I've never seen her look like that.
01:09:22I've never seen her look like that.
01:09:25And I'm not good with this kind of stuff.
01:09:29Like, I normally put things under the rug and...
01:09:33Yeah.
01:09:35Just to be clear...
01:09:38Yeah.
01:09:39This is toxic, inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour
01:09:45that you must see now.
01:09:55This is just not who I am.
01:09:57It's just not me, that's all.
01:09:58I just don't know what else to say.
01:10:00It's just not me, that's all.
01:10:01I understand that.
01:10:05But...
01:10:09Frankly, I don't feel very good about this.
01:10:16I want you to tell us
01:10:20why the three experts
01:10:23should not kick you out of the experiment right now.
01:10:39Why?
01:10:58This is just not me, that's all.
01:11:00I just don't know what else to say.
01:11:01It's just not me, that's all.
01:11:02I understand that.
01:11:04But...
01:11:06I want you to tell us
01:11:09why the three experts
01:11:12should not kick you out of the experiment right now.
01:11:32I genuinely hate myself for what I've done.
01:11:34Like, I...
01:11:40Obviously, I...
01:11:43I...
01:11:44You have no idea how much I regret this behaviour,
01:11:46how much I regret this.
01:11:47I've never done this in the past, ever.
01:11:50I've made the biggest mistake.
01:11:53This will never happen again, but I just...
01:12:02I'm so ashamed of it.
01:12:03Like, I swear to God, I'm so ashamed of it.
01:12:06I'm so ashamed of it.
01:12:07Like, I...
01:12:10I can't sleep at the moment
01:12:11because I just can't stop thinking about it.
01:12:13It's like I just...
01:12:14It's like on repeat in my head, but now I just...
01:12:18I regret this so much.
01:12:21I'm sorry to let everyone down here
01:12:23and you guys and you and everyone.
01:12:25I'm just...
01:12:28I'm going to have to make that up to Karina, of course.
01:12:32Before we had this,
01:12:33before we had this,
01:12:34we were actually having the most amazing,
01:12:36like, the most amazing time.
01:12:38And that's what I want to continue to do with Karina.
01:12:40I want to leave that in the past
01:12:42and I want to continue.
01:12:43I want to move forward.
01:12:44Because from day one, it's been incredible.
01:12:48She's always asking about my family.
01:12:50She's asking about my future goals.
01:12:52We talk about life all the time.
01:12:55You know, it's...
01:12:56And that's all I've ever wanted in a relationship.
01:12:59I'm having some real strong, strong, strong feelings
01:13:02for Karina.
01:13:03Of course, I probably love feelings, for sure.
01:13:07Like, I really do care about this woman.
01:13:09I really do.
01:13:10I really, really do.
01:13:16It makes me sad.
01:13:18Okay, it's getting sad.
01:13:27Karina, how...
01:13:29How were you feeling about Paul
01:13:33before this incident?
01:13:38Um...
01:13:41Really good, actually.
01:13:43Yeah, really good.
01:13:46I was...
01:13:47I was feeling happy and...
01:13:51We get along really well.
01:13:54I was optimistic and...
01:13:56I...
01:13:57I still am.
01:13:58Like...
01:13:59And I don't want to give up.
01:14:02Yeah.
01:14:03Everything was going so well.
01:14:06So that's where I'm just trying to...
01:14:09Yes, well, that's what we saw.
01:14:11Yeah.
01:14:13There are clearly deep feelings.
01:14:17And you have been heading in the right direction
01:14:20for most of this experiment.
01:14:25We want you to succeed.
01:14:27But make no mistake, Paul.
01:14:30You're on notice.
01:14:32Notice?
01:14:34Any type of violent behaviour,
01:14:39you're out.
01:14:41Notice?
01:14:45I know this has been uncomfortable
01:14:48and really difficult.
01:14:50We're going to go to a decision.
01:14:52Let's start with you, Karina.
01:14:54Yep.
01:15:00Um, well, I want to stay.
01:15:03Stay, kiss, kiss.
01:15:04Because we have so much to still learn about each other.
01:15:11And to you, Paul.
01:15:15Of course, I just also want to stay.
01:15:17Stay.
01:15:18OK, good.
01:15:20Paul, there's work to be done
01:15:22in terms of your emotional regulation.
01:15:24Yes, OK, I understand.
01:15:26And that's what we would like to help you with.
01:15:29So we're going to provide some services
01:15:32with strategies to help you de-escalate
01:15:35to ensure that you don't ever...
01:15:38Ever do that again.
01:15:39..let yourself do this again.
01:15:41Let yourself do this again.
01:16:07OK.
01:16:12SHE SOBS
01:16:33Tomorrow night...
01:16:36..the next exciting phase of the experiment begins.
01:16:43Let's go!
01:16:44Oh, my God!
01:16:45Our newlyweds head off to the annual couples retreat.
01:16:49Welcome home for the next four days.
01:16:51Where over two big nights,
01:16:53some much-needed R&R will strengthen bonds.
01:16:57I think coming on the Byron retreat was exactly what we needed.
01:17:01SHE SCREAMS
01:17:03MUSIC PLAYS
01:17:04I feel like my soul is leaving my body more and more every day.
01:17:08But not everyone is enjoying the group environment.
01:17:11Ha-ha-ha-ha!
01:17:13It's far from a retreat. It's actually, like, school camp.
01:17:16Yeah!
01:17:17Extremely loud people...
01:17:18Ah!
01:17:19..acting like buffoons.
01:17:20Do you think you're the man that she says she wants, though?
01:17:23And when the group questions Lauren's feelings for Clint...
01:17:27You are so lucky.
01:17:28You actually have no idea what you're talking about.
01:17:31..Lauren doesn't hold back.
01:17:33I'm actually so done with...
01:17:35Like, your opinion means nothing to me, Jamie.
01:17:37And a new rivalry is formed.
01:17:40Don't! Don't! Watch your phone.
01:17:42Like, what the hell? That is so rude.
01:17:44You know what? This conversation is so boring.
01:17:46I'm over it.
01:17:49Losers.