NVIDIA is Selling Lies | RTX 5070 Founders Edition Review & Benchmarks - video Dailymotion

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Sponsor: Montech HyperFlow 360 Cooler on Amazon https://geni.us/dWBIbF6 This review of the NVIDIA RTX 5070 Founders Edition video card benchmarks performance vs. the RTX 5070 Ti, RTX 4070, RX 7900 XT, 7900 GRE, and prepares for comparisons against AMD's RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 GPUs. The AMD RDNA 4 RX 9070 series cards launch tomorrow at $600 and $550 MSRP, matching the RTX 5070's $550 MSRP. We'll see if either one holds when it launches, but for now, we're focusing on some of the marketing lies that NVIDIA told during its presentation of the RTX 5070 GPUs. Testing MFG 4X vs. an RTX 4090 without MFG, we show that NVIDIA's claims of equivalence between the two are simply not true. It is intentionally manipulative and a misrepresentation of reality, unfortunately torpedoing what otherwise could have been a simpler launch review focused purely on performance. Instead, we get to talk about marketing BS.  The best way to support our work is through our store: https://store.gamersnexus.net/  Like our content? Please consider becoming our Patron to support us: http://www.patreon.com/gamersnexus  RELATED PRODUCTS [Affiliate Links]  We would advise waiting to buy a GPU until the 9070 series also launches so that you have the full picture.  AMD Ryzen 9800X3D CPU on Newegg: https://howl.link/o17puhoclww0v AMD Ryzen 9800X3D CPU on Amazon: https://geni.us/bsS1kFv  NVIDIA RTX 5070 on Newegg: https://howl.link/n6tq3hig9w8hk  AMD RX 7900 XTX on Newegg: https://howl.link/mtvba9dgdf7x4 AMD RX 7900 XTX on Amazon: https://geni.us/IOsQ  Zotac RTX 5080 Solid OC on Newegg: https://howl.link/w7bnzfqxufszt Zotac RTX 5080 Solid OC on Amazon: https://geni.us/O2P1KTE  NVIDIA RTX 5090 on Newegg: https://howl.link/mcb343fapkti6 NVIDIA RTX 5090 on Amazon: https://geni.us/CGgM6y  AMD RX 7900 XT on Newegg: https://howl.link/33qsc2445zr2y AMD RX 7900 XT on Amazon: https://geni.us/7Buj  TIMESTAMPS  00:00 - NVIDIA's 5070 Lies 04:06 - RTX 5070 Specs, Pricing Problems, Basics 09:23 - FFXIV Dawntrail 4K GPU Benchmarks 10:29 - FFXIV Dawntrail 1440p Video Card Comparison 11:46 - FFXIV Dawntrail 1080p Best Graphics Cards 12:22 - Black Myth: Wukong 4K RTX 5070 Comparison 13:09 - Black Myth: Wukong 1440p 5070 vs 5070 Ti 13:35 - Black Myth: Wukong 1080p 13:59 - Starfield 4K Best GPUs 2025 14:31 - Starfield 1440p Benchmarks 15:02 - Starfield 1080p 15:25 - Dragon's Dogma 2 4K Best Video Cards 16:27 - Dragon's Dogma 2 1440p 17:01 - Dragon's Dogma 2 1080p 17:32 - Cyberpunk 2077 4K 18:02 - Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty 1440p Comparison 18:27 - Cyberpunk 2077 1080p Ultra 19:08 - Dying Light 2 4K 19:26 - Dying Light 2 1440p 19:50 - Resident Evil 4 4K 20:18 - Resident Evil 4 1440p 20:59 - Resident Evil 4 1080p 21:14 - Ray Tracing: Black Myth Wukong 4K 22:12 - Ray Tracing: Black Myth Wukong 1440p 22:31 - Ray Tracing: Black Myth Wukong 1080p 23:04 - Ray Tracing: Dragon's Dogma 2 4K 23:22 - Ray Tracing: Dragon's Dogma 2 1440p 23:52 - Ray Tracing: Dragon's Dogma 2 1080p 24:35 - Ray Tracing: Dying Light

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00:00NVIDIA is selling lies and reviewers shouldn't be afraid to mince words about it. That is precisely

00:05What the RTX 5070 is. It is marketed on the back of lies. With the Blackwell family RTX 5070

00:144090 performance at 549

00:19impossible without the four tops, four teraops of

00:24AI

00:255070 4090 performance 549 dollars. That's right

00:29NVIDIA says that AI can make a 5070 which has 12 gigabytes of VRAM

00:34Equal 4090 which has 24. Here's an NVIDIA compliant comparison of the RTX 5070 with

00:41MFG versus the 4090 without any frame generation at all. Just stock

00:45These are abusive settings stressing both cards heavily, but NVIDIA said 4090 performance

00:51And we're not even close. The 5070's spiky behavior is exceeding 200 milliseconds in this like-for-like comparison except

00:59It has MFG. The 4090 isn't perfect, but without any frame generation at all

01:04It's hitting at worst 50 to 60 milliseconds an average of closer to 26

01:08Here's what that problem actually looks like. Using NVIDIA's own a frame view tool

01:13We get a glimpse into another problem

01:15Which is latency. The PC latency on the 4090 was around 51 milliseconds during this like-for-like comparison

01:2251 is a lot better than what we saw in the 5070 with MFG 4X after five minutes of being in the game

01:28That was 500 to 720 milliseconds. Now to be fair if you only played Cyberpunk with these settings for

01:35About 15 to 20 seconds at a time

01:37Things look a lot better. The 5070 is getting absolutely clobbered for VRAM

01:42Which is just 12 gigabytes to the 4090's 24. To call these the same is an absolute flat-out lie

01:49These cards are not the same. In situations where the card runs out of VRAM in particular

01:54It could never dream to be a 4090. It is simply impossible

01:57Here's a quick chart showing passes 1 through 3 of the 5070 as it gets progressively worse with each benchmark pass as the frame buffer

02:05Fills. The 4090 meanwhile maintains its performance the entire time

02:09So did we pick an absolutely ridiculous comparison to make with extremely abusive settings that you might not use on a 5070?

02:17Yes

02:19Yes, we did. Is it compliant?

02:22Also, yes. So Nvidia look, look, it's just us right now

02:26stop

02:27lying

02:29just

02:30shut up

02:31Even if we pretend a 5070 with MFG is equal to a 4090 in a serial

02:37That's maybe not VRAM constrained

02:39It's still not like-for-like because the images themselves are not the same. When you turn it on

02:44It's like Clive here from Final Fantasy or whatever his name is has six feet. I mean if that's what Jensen's into then

02:51To each their own I guess

02:55Wait for it

02:58Wait for it

02:59And the memes will continue until the marketing improves. Now Nvidia does know that gamers at one point mattered for its brand

03:06That's why there's so many amazing things that are happening

03:09We used GeForce to enable artificial intelligence and now artificial intelligence is

03:15revolutionizing GeForce. You bring it home to your

03:18$10,000

03:21PC

03:22Entertainment

03:23Command Center, isn't that right? Sometimes Corpo speak can be a little wordy and indirect. So let me just let me just translate that for you

03:32F*** you

03:34That's what they said. Nvidia

03:37said

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04:04And you can learn more at the link in the description below. Nvidia could have launched its RTX 5070 today to lukewarm reviews and

04:11Mediocrity but instead it went all in it decided to get on stage and lie about what the 5070 could be

04:18Making every possible unforced error in the launch cycle of the 50 series

04:22All of this was avoidable

04:24But this 5070 and 4090 comparison in particular was a totally unnecessary fumble

04:30We could have just read all the numbers off and called it a day and said

04:34Mediocre, lukewarm, wait for the 9070 XT and non XT reviews tomorrow

04:39But instead we get to start with talking about lying and marketing and then we can read all the numbers

04:46Do you see how this works Nvidia?

04:48And now we're gonna get into the rest of the review as normal. The RTX 5070 is supposed to have an MSRP of

04:55$550. Now there's an elephant in this room and we all know how Jensen Huan feels about elephants. Four elephants

05:06One GPU. It's hard to say what it'll actually be available for for street pricing

05:11but basing off of only MSRP that makes this card $50 higher than the MSRP of the RTX 3070 at its launch in

05:182020 and $50 cheaper than the RTX 4070's launch MSRP of $600

05:23This kind of looks like a patterned stutter stepping where Nvidia will go a little too high

05:29It'll overshoot on a generation the next one it comes down and then it creeps back up a little bit higher

05:35And so you end up with this gradual

05:38Stuttered step of price increases. We saw this from 10 to 20 20 to 30 and 30 to 40 and now we're seeing it again

05:45but the RTX 5070 GPU has an advertised

05:496144 CUDA cores a

05:51192-bit bus and 12 gigabytes of GDDR7 memory

05:55It might even have all the ROPs. The 5070 Ti has an MSRP at

06:00$750 and carries 16 gigabytes of GDDR7 memory on a 256-bit bus. So there's more bandwidth

06:06There's a little bit more capacity and there's an increase to

06:108960 CUDA cores and it has the surprise mechanic of maybe not having all of the ROPs

06:15Clocks on the 5070 are advertised at 2.51 gigahertz boost now

06:19It felt like the world didn't have enough absurdity in it today. So we went and looked at Newegg

06:24Here's how it breaks down. There are five MSRP models for the 5070 Ti on Newegg right now

06:29Which is just enough to technically claim that MSRP exists. The rest of them are all higher often

06:37$900 and over. Board partners have now directly repriced their cards with video cards

06:42Noticing that MSI had eliminated all of its $750 5070 Ti cards just before the 5070 launches

06:50Interestingly though as we write this review following the video cards news post

06:54MSI has now reintroduced two $750 models dropping from

07:00820 and 840 to 750. Nvidia has historically applied pressure to partners to make MSRP units available

07:07So it wouldn't surprise us if the video card story triggered a reaction to keep two models available

07:12They can also achieve this with rebates. Anyway as for things available right now as in you can actually buy it

07:18we found the RX 7800 XT Pulse for $530 and

07:23That's it. That is all we found when we sorted Newegg from

07:28$450 to $650 for in stock and sold first party by Newegg

07:34Meaning no third party is no unavailable models

07:36All we got were a bunch of refurbished units and the 7800 XT Pulse

07:42So it really is crazy right now

07:44And we'll talk about that a little more in the next two reviews and the conclusion of this one

07:48We're gonna get into the benchmarks though. This review contains most of the games that we benchmark

07:53We've reintroduced some of the ones that we didn't show last couple reviews because we're prepping for the 9070 9070 XT

07:58So we need that full picture suite to see how the cards behave in different types of games

08:03We currently have around 50 to 60 GPUs or so tested for this lineup with this bench in the last

08:10two months or so now and

08:12so because of that it's too many cards and

08:15The charts you won't be able to read them on the screen

08:17So we have to remove some stuff and so here's what we went through and did we've added the 7900 GRE

08:22We won't be spending time talking about it today because it'll be replaced tomorrow and will likely be a key comparison tomorrow for the 9070 series

08:29But it's on the charts

08:30We're removing either the 4080 or the super in every chart

08:33But keeping the other will favor the super where we have data for it

08:36That's because these GPUs are within 1 to 3 percent of each other and it's not worth the chart space to have two versions of

08:41The same card

08:42We're also removing the 2080 Ti, 2080 Super and 2080

08:45Most of these results are already available in our previous charts for the 5070 Ti review

08:49Those are directly comparable to these you can pull them both up if you want to access that data

08:53We're removing the 5080 with the missing ROPs

08:55You can find that in a standalone video also directly comparable

08:58And of course, we're removing the 9070 and XT because we can't show that data until tomorrow though

09:03We can show the footage of it. But as for the data can't show it yet

09:07not that we've looked at it or know where the 9070 or 9070 XT land and

09:13Certainly, we wouldn't reference it in vague ambiguous ways at all anywhere in the really dense chart section

09:21And you're just gonna have to check back and there's there's not gonna be any hints

09:26Let's get into it

09:27Final Fantasy 14 Dawn Trail is up first for traditional raster title at 4k without any

09:32Bullshit to artificially inflate the numbers

09:34This game is actually playable on most modern hardware at this resolution the way it's supposed to be the RTX 5070 ran at 78 FPS

09:41Average landed it right between the 4070 Ti and the 4070 Ti Super

09:45Maybe we should call it the 4070 Ti V3 instead the 5070 Ti outperforms that brand-new

09:52RTX 4070 Ti V3 Blackwell edition by 25% here

09:57The 4070 Ti Super is ahead by 11% and the 7900 XT by 6% going by name only and ignoring the fact that you're getting

10:05less for more these days from Nvidia the generational leader of the 4070 is 30% or 48% over the 3070

10:12118% over the 2070 and

10:14244% over the Pascal 1070 unfortunately for Nvidia the 5070 is not better than the 4090

10:20But if we were to be artificially intelligent and actually intellectually dishonest

10:24It might be the 90 70s will be on this chart tomorrow at 1440 P

10:29The RTX 5070 Ti's lead over the 5070 is reduced to 22% from 25% at 4k

10:34The 5070 is also reduced at its advantage over the 4070 Ti now just 1% from around 6% at 4k

10:41from 150 FPS to 172 FPS

10:44We now have three GPUs from Nvidia

10:48That is if you want to make Nvidia look as ridiculous as possible

10:51You could maximize the size of the clown car by drawing a box from the 4080 Super at 202 FPS

10:57So the 4070 FE at 117 FPS

11:01The result is seven modern Nvidia GPUs spanning an 85 FPS range all fresh from clown school

11:08Divided evenly that would be one GPU for every 12 FPS in this situation though four of them land within a 36 FPS range

11:16the 5070 Ti 4070 Ti Super 5070 and

11:204070 Ti I mean you can dial it in to the

11:23Individual decimals if you were so picky about your performance

11:26The 700 XT lands in the middle of all of these and has a 12% lead over the RTX 5070

11:31Assuming all the ROPs are present on the 5070 and the 5070 is again

11:36Not better than the 4090 RTX 5070

11:424090 performance. Are you guys with me?

11:45Hi, am I alone?

11:47remarkably

11:47We still have okay scaling at 1080p for most of these GPUs the fact that the 9800 XT allows the 5090 and the 4090 to

11:53Still have a slight gap at 1080p really speaks volumes to how actually exciting AMD's 9800 XT is

11:59Anyway back to the flunky problem child, which is GPUs just in their entirety

12:04The 5070 ran this workload at 225 FPS average and fell below the 4070 Ti

12:10No wonder and video wants everyone using an MFG the 4090 predictably outperforms the 5070 massively

12:16It's a 67% gap here

12:18The 7900 XT now has a reduced lead of 9%

12:21Blackmuth who call that 4k and rasterized had the 5070 at 40 FPS average given the 5070 Ti a 27% lead

12:27The 5070 really struggled in this one and ended up tied with the 4070 Ti and to its benefit the 7900 XT

12:34We'd be curious to see how the 9070 does in this one

12:37Surely we don't already know as we're writing this and definitely haven't looked at the results and in no way would we ever?

12:43Encourage you to just wait and see what the results are tomorrow if we know but we don't and so we

12:48Will still encourage you to do that if we were to randomly multiply the frames

12:52Then the 5070 would be better than the 4090 until you randomly multiply the 4090 with lossless scaling

12:58Jensen's claim is like a schoolyard argument. The 5070 is infinity times better

13:04Wait for it

13:08Wait for it

13:09At 1440p we reintroduce other 70 class cards of the past the 5070 FE ran at 72 FPS average with frame time pacing

13:17Unremarkable meaning fine the 5070 is tied with the 4070 Ti and 7900 XT

13:22Generationally by name only the 5070 improves on the 4070 by 22% the 3070 by 58% and the 2070

13:30Non-super by 137% the 5070 Ti leads the 5070 by 21% here

13:35Let's go faster through these the 1080p result for black myth has the 5070 down at 98 FPS average allowing the 4070 Ti a gain

13:42To a 2% lead the 5070 Ti is ahead by 17.6% here

13:47Assuming all of the ROPs are present against the prior cards containing 70 naming the 5070 is ahead of the 4070 by 18%

13:53The 3070 is 63 FPS average by 56% and the 2070 is 43 FPS by 126%

13:59Starfield at 4k is up now

14:01The 5070 ran at 54 FPS average here giving the 4070 Ti 69 FPS average a 9% lead

14:06It'd be interesting if AMD's 9070 performed similarly to the 7900 XT here since the hellhound is 20% ahead of the 5070

14:13We'll find out tomorrow again

14:15We definitely haven't already looked at the data

14:17The 5070 Ti has a larger lead over the 5070 in this test than the last 1080p benchmark running a 68 FPS average for a

14:2427% advantage over the 5070 FE

14:27Performance of the 5070 over the 2070 is 22 FPS is about 145% ahead

14:311440p significantly reduces the 5070 Ti's uplift over the 5070 bringing it down to 22% from the prior 27%

14:37the 7900 XT which is an important comparison in this test for

14:42Reasons that might be comparable to other cards coming out runs at 98 FPS average with comparable lows to its neighbors

14:50That has it 18% ahead of the RTX 5070's 83 FPS average as for the 4070

14:56The 5070 leads by a paltry 10.6% then 48% over the 3070's 56 FPS

15:02At 1080p the 5070's 104 FPS average planted it between the 4070 and 4070 Ti again with an unimpressive 9% improvement on the 4070

15:10The gap shrinks as the resolution decreases in this game

15:13The 5070 Ti is now ahead by only 19% down from 27% at 4k

15:18As for AMD, its RX 7900 XT is 15% ahead here down slightly from the 1440p advantage

15:25Dragon's Dogma 2 at 4k is next this game is relatively heavy on the GPU in our test area

15:30But is unique for its ability to also produce a heavy CPU load in cities

15:33The RTX 5070 ran at 56 FPS average here and had good frame time pacing represented in the lows

15:39But then again, so did everything around it

15:42So it's proportional the 5070 very slightly leads the 4070 Ti as for the 4090

15:46We're still somehow not matching the 4090 which is up at 98 FPS

15:50We must have mistyped the equals 5070 times 4 formula that Jensen prescribed for reviewers

15:57impossible without the four tops four tear-ups of

16:02Ai the 5070 Ti leads the 5070 by a much larger 31% in this benchmark producing one of the most notable jumps yet

16:09The 3090 Ti ran at 64 FPS for a 14% lead over the 5070 which might seem totally non sequitur and unrelated

16:16But it isn't you'll find out why soon

16:18Anyway, the 7900 XT held a 61 FPS average in this one and the XTX was just past the 5070 Ti

16:26Dragon's Dogma 2 at 1440p has the 5070 basically tied with the 4070 Ti again

16:30The 7900 XT's 104 FPS average is just a 9% lead here with the 4070 Ti super a slight step above that

16:37The 5070 Ti has a 25% lead over the 5070 here posting one of its better 1440p comparative results somehow

16:44And we don't know how this happened. The RTX 4090 just seems to be better than the 5070. That's again

16:50It's so weird that just must be something wrong

16:52Maybe we should run Nvidia multi-fraction generation to divide the 4090 down to a 5070 with that kind of performance

16:59I'm gonna hire AI next time at 1080p

17:02The 5070's 126 FPS average has it just behind the 4070 Ti

17:06The 7900 XT leads by only 7% here with the 5070 Ti knocks down to a 21% lead from 25% at 1440p

17:13The 5070 Ti's 151 FPS average is also about the same as the 7900 XTX

17:19Which has its own slight advantage. As for the 4090, well, ours really must be broken because again

17:25It's just not making the 5070 look good enough. I wonder if this can play Crysis

17:30Only gamers know that. Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty is up now

17:34We have a more limited data set with this because we updated the game recently and we've been working on rerunning everything

17:38at 4k the 5070 ran at 41 FPS average that put it 6% ahead of the 4070 Ti and

17:44144% ahead of the 2070 or 68% ahead of the 24 FPS result of the 3070. As for the 5070 Ti

17:51It's 50 FPS average gives it a 22% lead here with the 7900 XTX ahead of that at 57 FPS average

17:57the 7900 XT has a noteworthy 13% lead over the

18:015070 here. At 1440p the 5070 ran at 89 FPS average and had lows at 75 FPS 1% and 71 FPS and 0.1%

18:08The 5070 Ti at 108 FPS average is about 21% ahead not changing much from 4k

18:14The 7900 XT is ahead of the 5070 in average 1% and 0.1% lows

18:20Holding a 12% lead in average frame rate alone

18:22Once again, the 4070 Ti basically ties the 5070 with the latter slightly ahead this time. 1080p reintroduces other 70 class cards

18:29The 5070 Ti ran at 167 FPS average with the 5070 at 138. That's still 21% there

18:35The 4070 hasn't been rerun here yet

18:37but the 3070 is present at 85 FPS yielding a 62% lead to the

18:435070 followed by the 2070 at 60 FPS for 130% then the GTX 1070 at 35 FPS average

18:50That's about 293% improved to the 5070 and these RX 7800 XT seems like it'll be particularly relevant soon

18:58This one ran at 150 FPS average with lows expected at 116 and 104

19:03That's an 8.8% improvement over the 5070. Dying Light 2 is up now

19:07This is another of the heavier games

19:09Especially with RT later. At 4k the 5070 ran at 56 FPS average and struggled in this title

19:14Allowing the 5070 Ti an advantage of 25%. The 7800 XT doesn't look great by comparison here at

19:2155 FPS average itself. As for the 4070 Ti, it's again roughly equal

19:261440p has the 5070 at 106 FPS average now trading places with the 7800 XT

19:31The 5070 Ti's lead is reduced to 22% with the 4070 Ti now falling slightly behind the 5070. By

19:38generational naming the 4070 ran at 78 FPS average

19:41So the 5070 is 36% better. The 3070 was at 67 FPS average or 60% better on the

19:505070 today. Resident Evil 4 is up last for raster testing

19:53We're almost through these. At 4k the 5070 at 78 FPS average has it just behind the 4070 Ti that we've been tracking

19:59It's also about 6 FPS ahead of the 7800 XT

20:02So measurably different but functionally equal. The 5070 Ti is 107 FPS average positions at 36% ahead in this one

20:10Which is a huge gain and among the largest we've seen. The 7800 XT seems like a good and definitely very relevant soon

20:16comparison for AMD

20:18Landing at 100 FPS average and leading the 5070 by 28%

20:21At 1440p the 5070 held a 152 FPS average and trailed the 4070 Ti by 8 FPS

20:27The 5070 Ti is 30% higher frame rate here down from 36% at 4k. As we've seen the gap tends to close at lower

20:34Resolutions, although it's still a huge gap in this particular game

20:37The 7800 XT is now up at 186 FPS average with the reduction of the percentage advantage to 22% from 28% at 4k

20:45Generationally the 5070 runs 23% faster than the 124 FPS on the 4070

20:5154% faster than the 91 FPS on the 3070 and

20:55157% ahead of the 59 FPS for the 2070. Finally for raster

20:59We're now at 1080p for Resident Evil 4. This one is interesting for further closing of the gap between the 5070 and 5070 Ti

21:05Which now ranges from 282 FPS to 224 FPS for a 26% improvement on the Ti

21:11The 7800 XT is about 18% higher frame rate here

21:14We're moving on to ray tracing now and NVIDIA has historically held significant advantages in some games for ray tracing

21:19AMD says it has significantly improved its ray tracing performance though

21:23We explained why the company is claiming this in our news piece covering the 9070 announcements

21:27So this will become highly relevant in tomorrow's reviews. Black Myth Wukong with ray tracing is up first

21:32This is one of the two titles in this RT test suite that heavily favors NVIDIA

21:36We're testing with upscaling here. At 4k the 5070 ran at 40 FPS average

21:40That has the 5070 Ti at 30% ahead with the 4070 Ti about tied with the 5070

21:45AMD doesn't appear until the 7800 XTX down at 20 FPS average

21:49That's a massive lead of 99% over the 7800 XTX. The 5070 doubles the 7800 XTX's performance

21:56That's not good for AMD's last generation. We'll see if that lead can be halved with the new generation though

22:01The 5070 leads the 3080 by 44% based on math from AMD's claims in its presentation

22:08That's about where it should land here. Too bad

22:10No one knows if that's a good reference point yet. At 1440p the 5070 Ti ran at 88 FPS average

22:15The 5070 at 73 FPS average between the 4070 Ti and 4070 Ti Super and the original

22:21RTX 70 class card the 2070 ran at 24

22:24AMD's best here as of today and not tomorrow is the 7800 XTX at 37 FPS average

22:29Now for 1080p. The 5070 held a 97 FPS average here encroaching on the 4090 but still not beating it

22:35The 5070 Ti leads the 5070 by just 15% in this situation

22:38With the 5070 now ahead of the 4070 Ti and Ti Super cards after slow gains and other resolutions

22:44The 7800 XTX ran at 49 FPS average closer to a 4060 and behind the 3070

22:49That's unfortunate. AMD named the 3080 in its slideshow announcing the card for the

22:549070s if it lands near that mark it'd be around or ahead of the 66 FPS average result for the FTW 3

23:00Speaking of, EVGA really knew what was coming when it bailed. Dragon's Dogma 2 is back with RT now

23:06This one is more balanced between the vendors. At 4k the 5070 ran at 49 FPS average

23:11Establishing a 9% lead for the 7800 XT. It's a similar gap to what we saw without RT

23:17The 5070 Ti leads by 30% again here with the 7800 XTX leading that. At 1440p with RT

23:23Dragon's Dogma 2 puts the 5070 at 83 FPS average reducing the 5070 Ti's lead to 24%

23:29The 7800 XT sits between both with the 7800 XTX ahead of the 5070 Ti

23:34Based on the charts AMD has released the math would position the 9070 and 9070 XT as flanking the 5070 Ti

23:41But we'll find out soon enough

23:43Generationally the 5070 leads the 4070 by 23% the 3070s 51 FPS by 62% and the 2070 non-super by

23:51145%. Down to 1080p the 5070 Ti's lead over the 5070 is now 22%

23:56With the 7800 XTX still leading the Ti and the 7800 XT still leading the 5070

24:01The 4070 is relatively close to the 5070 here now with an 18% advantage to the 5070

24:07But maybe the 4090 can breathe some excitement into it. The 4090 ran at

24:11169.2 FPS average if we multiply the 5070 by a billion that put it at

24:17107.4 billion FPS average which is an uplift of six million three hundred forty seven thousand five hundred sixteen point seven three percent

24:24This is clearly the card to get and as we all know it's not possible to multiply the 4090 by

24:30Arbitrary numbers with lossless scaling because then that would hurt 50 series marketing. Dying Light 2 with RT is next the first one is

24:374k upscaled for this chart the 5070 ran at 44 FPS average here just below the 4070 Ti. The 7800 XTX held

24:4446 FPS average in this one again showing AMD's prior deficit in RT performance

24:50It's not as bad as in Black Myth

24:51But considering the original pricing of the 4070 Ti and the 7800 XTX, AMD was in a position that was hard to fight from

24:57We'll see how the 9070 series compares tomorrow. At 1440p the 5070 beats the 7800 XT by 13%

25:03Falls behind the 4070 Ti and allows the 5070 Ti which is basically an RTX 4080 v3 or v4 a lead of 27%

25:10At 1080p upscaled the 5070 produced 116 FPS average and again sat just below the 4070 Ti

25:16With the 7800 XTX and 7800 XT flanking the 5070. The 5070 Ti ran at 141 FPS average

25:22Which will be the number for AMD's 9070 XT to target

25:26Generationally the 5070 leads the 4070 by 25% and the 3070 by 58%. Resident Evil at 4k upscaled is next

25:33This one has the 5070 at 91 FPS average roughly tying the 4070 Ti once again

25:37The 7800 XT leads the 5070 by 18% with the 5070 Ti leading by 29%

25:43The 7800 XTX sits ahead of that at 134 FPS average. At 1440p the 5070 is 149 FPS average

25:49Put it 23% ahead of the 4070 and 70% ahead of the 3070. The 7800 XT leads the 4070 Ti and 5070. Finally

25:57For RT is a lot of charts today. Finally for RT our new cyberpunk results with the updated game version

26:04First with 4k and RT ultra the 5070 ran at 17 FPS average. This is without upscaling

26:09It's intentionally the heaviest workload for gaming we run that positions it right between the 7800 XT and 7800 XTX

26:16That'd be unfortunate positioning if AMD weren't launching something with better RT in a day

26:21But we'll have to check back tomorrow for that rank. The 5070 Ti

26:25Continues its trend of being Nvidia's third or fourth iteration of a 4080 card and leads the 5070 by a huge

26:3256% here. The workload is simply too heavy for the 5070. It is dropping frames a lot

26:37Frame time pacing is bad. It just can't handle it's getting overrun. It has neither the bandwidth nor the compute capability

26:43That's why you see that gap emerge. Here's RT ultra at 1080p

26:46The 5070 held 64 FPS average with these settings putting the 5070 Ti about 32% ahead

26:51The 7800 XTX trails the 5070 here, unfortunately for AMD's former flagship. We also run RT medium for cyberpunk

26:58We've found that RT ultra and RT medium can significantly affect the hierarchical ranking of Nvidia and AMD

27:03So we run both Nvidia runs away at ultra they get closer sometimes here with these settings and at 4k still the 5070 now runs

27:10At 22.5 FPS average this reduces the 5070 Ti's lead to a more normal 35%

27:16The 5070 just didn't have the ability to keep up at 4k RT ultra

27:20We'll keep thermal short and simple using our usual benchmark of Port Royal at 4k and looping

27:24We measured the 5070 FE at steady state at around 74 degrees Celsius for GPU core temperature

27:30The memory temperature was about 76 degrees. Both of these numbers are acceptable memories

27:35Well within spec and it's completely fine here core has some room for a hotter case as in computer case

27:40The core temperature isn't impressive, but it is acceptable and there's a little bit of buffer there

27:45The 5070 FE's fans ran at about 2500 RPM to maintain this temperature

27:50We skipped acoustic testing this time since we have the two 9070 reviews to get through so for efficiency as usual

27:56We use power interposers PMD 2's in between the GPU and the power supply

28:02That means we're intercepting slot power and the PCIe power through the cables and we do that so that we can isolate the GPU entirely

28:09Measure its power consumption during a workload and then we take the frame rate numbers to do some simple math and produce an efficiency number

28:16So in these charts, you'll get a few things you get the total power consumption for that workload in watts

28:21And then you also get its efficiency in FPS per watt not workload normalized

28:27So we allow it to run at the frame rate

28:28That it can naturally run at for efficiency with Final Fantasy 14 at 4k

28:32We end up with this data. This chart isn't as dense as our 1440p chart

28:36That's up next the 5070 FE ran at 0.33 FPS per watt here pulling

28:40233 watts during the workload the 5070 TI pulled

28:44264 watts allowing it an improvement and efficiency to 0.37 FPS per watt and these prior 7900 XT wasn't particularly efficient

28:52Giving Nvidia a large advantage and efficiency for the 5070

28:56FPS was close enough to be mostly observably equal to a player

28:59But the 7900 XT ran at just 0.25 FPS per watt from its 324 watts power draw during the test

29:05We'll have to see what the 9070 series does to improve this as this has been one of AMD's GPU weaknesses over the years

29:11At 1440p the 5070 ran at 0.65 FPS per watt that puts the 5070 TI as about 12% more efficient than the 5070

29:19When producing a variable workload the AMD 7900 XT pulled 325 watts in this test

29:24Landing at 0.53 FPS per watt its frame rate is higher

29:28But the power is also disproportionately higher which hurts its efficiency despite a higher frame rate at 1080p the 5070 hits nearly 1

29:35FPS per watt the 4060 TI has passed it for efficiency with the 5070 TI

29:40Improved by 0.11 FPS per watt on top of the 5070's 1.0 results

29:44The 7900 XT is down at 0.75 and is still pulling about the same power as previously

29:50F124 at 4k and with ray tracings up next in this one the 5070 produced 0.17 FPS per watt

29:55Pulling close to TDP at 246 watts in order to produce its hardly playable frame rate

30:01The 5070 TI ran at 0.20 FPS per watt with the 4080 ranking at the top for its balance of power and frame rate

30:07Note that bar size changes you might see from numbers that look the same are valid

30:12It's just from the hidden decimal places the 7900 XT ran at 0.12 FPS per watt

30:17The significant fall from the 5070's result the 9070 series has a lot of work to do here

30:22To start to close the gap with Nvidia which has a major advantage right now in efficiency at 1080p and still with RT the 5070

30:30Ran at 0.55 FPS per watt again giving the 5070 TI a 13% efficiency advantage

30:35We're curious to see where the 9070 and 9070 XT land the 7900 XT for its case isn't competitive in efficiency

30:42With a lot of this particular result being because of its relatively low RT performance last generation

30:48And that's what AMD is trying to tackle. In Black Myth Wukong without RT and at 1080p the 5070 TI held a

30:540.53 FPS per watt rank putting it in the second slot

30:57The 5070 is at 0.48 with the 4060 TI still trading back and forth depending on the test

31:03The 7800 XT was at 0.31 FPS per watt with the 7900 XT just below that

31:08The 5070 is not Nvidia's most power-efficient card due to the performance trade-offs

31:13But it's relatively efficient overall. In Dragon's Dogma 2 at 1440p and with RT the 5070 ranked at 0.36 FPS per watt

31:20Sandwiching it between the 4090 that it's not better than and the 5090. The 7900 XT is down at 0.28 FPS per watt

31:27Yielding an efficiency benefit in a non-normalized frame rate workload of 29%

31:32That'll be the mark for the 9070 series to hit. Finally in Starfield rasterized at 1440p

31:36The 5070 ran at 0.43 FPS per watt and landed just below the 4090 which it remains not better than again

31:43The 7800 XT from AMD ran at 0.32 FPS per watt. So AMD has a lot of ground to gain here tomorrow

31:49This will be an area we'll focus on for testing for improvements as theoretically it should be better than it was before

31:55We'll have some more numbers in our upcoming 9070 reviews as well

31:58So like the 4070 super for example reappears in those charts if you're curious about that one

32:03We're just holding some stuff for the 9070 and the 9070 XT because those will be pretty big reviews as well

32:08So you want to know where the 4070 super is check back to that?

32:11but it's between the 4070 and the 5070. One thing's for certain though Nvidia's marketing about the 5070 versus the

32:174090 is wrapped in bullshit and built on a foundation of manure

32:21Which is I guess only fitting for a company whose CEO is constantly wearing leather jackets

32:28Do you like my jacket? So that's it for the benchmarks a lot of benchmarks

32:31we added more efficiency than we've had the last several reviews again because we're prepping for AMD to re-enter the scene and

32:37We've gotten the efficiency charts built up now

32:40So anyway, the current buying experience is completely insane it matches that kovat era boom where things went crazy

32:45It also kind of matches the 2017 or so crypto mining boom both of which depleted supply. We're seeing that again

32:53definitely disheartening to see

32:56But anyway, it's it's crazy it's crazy to go to Newegg and sort by 450 to 650 dollars

33:02Which used to be like one of the most popular category. I mean far enough back

33:07It was the flagship high-end but more recent history. It's been sort of that

33:12modern mid-range really popular price category, especially if you start down at 400 450 and

33:18As gone, it's all it's all gone. It's the South Park meme. It's gone. It's all gone

33:24What's up gone the money in your account it didn't do too well it's God

33:29What do you mean? I have $100 not anymore. You don't poof

33:33There's just there's nothing left. It's the 7800 XT pulse and a bunch of refurb units and that was it

33:40So really crazy. It makes it very difficult to evaluate value

33:44And now fortunately we're gonna wait to do that

33:46Anyway, because the 9070 the 9870 XT launched tomorrow when this video goes up and that's when we're gonna evaluate

33:52The value of the 5070 and it's direct competitors broadly speaking regardless where it lands

33:57We'd say wait for things to cool off if your current machine can last you a little bit longer

34:02Spending most people can probably wait at least a day

34:04You'll likely save money as pricing settles if saving money doesn't matter to you

34:09Maybe the time does because unless you get lucky and snipe an early stock of the cards

34:14You may at least be saving some time. Alright, so that's pretty much it as for the value

34:18We're gonna kick that can to tomorrow's review because we want that data before we really talk about it

34:23I don't know. I need an anchor point to talk about the value and right now there's not really one. So

34:29Yeah, we're gonna wait and we'll talk about it then but either way

34:33We don't think you should buy this card until you learn about the competition as the on paper

34:38Price is in similar territory and we'll see how the in reality prices for both of them

34:43So check back for the 9070 XT and the 9070 reviews. This gets you the basics for now

34:49We'll have a lot more to talk about tomorrow

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