On the eve of Holi, flag marches were conducted in Delhi, Noida, Sambhal, Prayagraj and Indore. Several Mosques in Sambhal were covered while namaz timings were postponed in some areas.
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00:00From Holi and Ramzan, to Holi versus Ramzan.
00:28From festivals of sharing joy and celebrations, to festivals of high alert.
00:39On eve of Holi, flag marches in Sambhar, Noida, Prayagraj, Delhi, Indore.
01:05Flags covered, Namaz timings postponed, sensitive zones fortified, festivals politicized, religious
01:32harmony compromised.
01:34Top focus on To The Point this evening.
01:37Good evening viewers, you are watching To The Point, I am Preeti Chawla, it's a time
01:43when festivals have become religious and political battlegrounds, we are going to get to the
01:47fallout of both in just over the course of the next 40 minutes.
01:52First up, allow me to take you through the headlines.
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02:11DMK Mantri versus Tamil Nadu BJP Chief in Language War, Mantri Says Will Not Accept
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02:43Holi Celebrations Begin in Uttar Pradesh's Sambhal, Mahadev Mandir Sees Holi After 46
02:48Years, Devotees Throng to Attend.
02:56GMC versus BJP War of Words Over Holi Celebrations at the UNESCO Heritage Site of Shantiniketan.
03:03After Mamata Government's No Holi Dictat, BJP itself calls it a Peacement.
03:15Astronaut Savita Villain's Return Delayed Again, Hydraulic System Issue Delays SpaceX
03:20Launch.
03:21Return of Astronauts Delayed to Monday, March 17, 2017.
03:37A Top Focus Because Festivals Have Been Duly Politicized, The Religious Harmony That India
03:43Has Seen Has Been Compromised But Also There Has Been A Word Which Is Much Hated Nowadays
03:48Called Intolerance.
03:49And It Cuts Both Ways Viewers, Why I Say It Cuts Both Ways.
03:52And It's Clearly Surfacing at the Time of Ramzan and Holi.
03:57At One End, We'll Get You Visuals Where, Of A Fashion Show in Gulmarg, Srinagar.
04:02Stunning Visuals There, But Because This Fashion Show Took Place in the Times of Ramzan and
04:08the Models For Beach Line, Which Was One Model Wore A Bikini and The Other Model Also, Two
04:15Models Spotted Both Male and Female Swimwear.
04:19And That Caused A Huge Huge Issue With The Political Establishments of Jammu and Kashmir.
04:27You Had The PDP Chief Mehbooba Mufti Come Out Asking For An Apology and Ultimately The Designers
04:33Of Who Were Behind This Particular Fashion Show Had To Come Out and Issue A Due Apology.
04:39So Intolerance There and Intolerance On The Other Side.
04:43Muslims Have Been Told If They Don't Want To In Uttar Pradesh and This Dictate Has Come
04:50From The Police That If They Don't Want To Celebrate Or Won't Want Color On Them, Then
04:55Don't Get Out Of The House.
04:57Mosques Across Uttar Pradesh Have Been Covered With Taap, Which You Can See On Your Television
05:02Screen.
05:03A Battleground Emerging, Tense Moments Before Holi, On The Eve Of Holi, Two Very Splitting
05:11Images Of Like I Said, A Word Much Anticipated As Well As Maligned Nowadays Called Intolerance.
05:18So At The Back Of All That We Have Seen The Questions That We Asked This Evening.
05:22Since When Did, Let's Cut Across To The Questions That We Asked This Evening.
05:29Since When Did Holi And Ramzan Turn To Holi Versus Ramzan?
05:34The Time In Memorial, These Are The Festivals Of Sharing Joy, Celebration.
05:39But Now It's One Pitched Against The Other In The Battleground Of Festivals.
05:44Festivals Politicize Religious Harmony Compromise, Growing Intolerance With Uproar Over Fashion
05:50Show In Jammu And Kashmir During Ramzan, Growing Intolerance When Muslims Advise To Stay Indoors
05:58During Holi Celebrations.
06:00Some Of The Questions We Are Going To Pose To Our Panelists This Evening.
06:04Joining Us Mahima Singh, National Spokesperson Congress, Sanju Verma, National Spokesperson
06:09Bharatiya Janata Party, We Will Also Be Joined By Yashavardhan Azad, Top Cop Former IPS.
06:16Is It Time Somewhere Down The Line, Sanju Verma To De-Escalate The Kind Of Tensions
06:21That We See Build Up On The Eve Of Holi In The Month Of Ramzan?
06:26Visuals That Have Been Filtering In The Last 48 Hours Have Been Unprecedented, Which We
06:31Haven't Quite Seen.
06:33It's Not Limited.
06:34You Know, You Turn Around And Say Only Hindu Festivals Are Targeted.
06:37But Let Me Also Say It's Not Limited To Just Holi, Even When You Have A Fashion Show
06:41In Srinagar And You Have Models, Maybe Who Spot The Swimwear Line Have To Come Out And
06:47Immediately Issue An Apology Because The Political Establishments Think That This When Goes Against
06:54The Tenets Of Islam During The Month Of Ramzan.
06:58Is It Time Somewhere Down The Line To De-Escalate The Kind Of Tensions That We Are Living In?
07:05You Know, Preeti, You Always Second Guess What Sanju Verma Is Going To Say, But For
07:09Once You're Right.
07:10Yes, Indeed, Preeti, 99.9% Of The Time Hindu Festivals Are Targeted And I Will Corroborate
07:16What I Am Saying With Hard Examples.
07:19Let's Not Forget That When There Is Kavar Yatra, It Happens Once In A Year.
07:24What Do We Hear?
07:25Arre, Yeh Kavar Yatri Jo Hain Na, Yeh Chhapri Hain, Yeh Gunde Hain, Yeh Bahut Zor Se Gana
07:30Bajana Karte Hain, Bahut Zor Se DJ Chalate Hain.
07:33Then, I Remember I Stay In Mumbai, Maharashtra, For The…
07:41Sanju Verma, There Is A Problem With Your Audio Line.
07:43We Are Going To Try And Reconnect That.
07:45We Are Going To Cut Across To Our Other Guests.
07:46But Once Again, Taking Our Viewers To Some Of The Questions That We Are Posing For Our
07:51Viewers And Our Panelists.
07:53The First Question Of Course Comes, You Know, With All Of Us Who Have Remembered Holi, We
08:00Have Remembered, You Know, Our Friends Celebrating Ramzan.
08:03It Was Always About Sharing.
08:04Suddenly, It Is A Pitched Battle Between These Two Festivals, A Month Of Ramzan And The Festival
08:09Of Holi.
08:10We Have Seen A Clear Politicization Of Religious Festivals Which Has Clearly Compromised The
08:16Religious Harmony That We Have Seen.
08:19Growing Intolerance, An Example Of That, An Uproar Over A Fashion Show In Jammu And Kashmir
08:24During Ramzan, Growing Intolerance.
08:26And Muslims Now Being Advised To Stay Indoors During Holi Celebrations.
08:30Sanju Verma Is Back With Us, We Are Also Joined By Mahima Singh.
08:33Sanju Verma, Finish What You Are Saying, Then I Will Cut Across To Mahima Singh.
08:36We Have You Back.
08:37You Know, Preeti, My Limited Point Is This, Durga Puja Celebrations In Maharashtra, You
08:42Know, In Terms Of The Durga Puja Visarjan Has Been Postponed So That Muharram Procession
08:46Can Continue As Scheduled.
08:48There Is A Village, Nalhati In West Bengal, Where There Are Only 300 Hindu Families.
08:53And For The Last 40 Odd Years, These 300 Hindu Families In Nalhati Village, In Birbhum
08:59District, Do Not Get To Celebrate Durga Puja, But I Have Seen No Primetime Discussion.
09:03There Are Villages And Districts In Kerala, Where Hindus Are Told That, You Know, Aapko
09:09To Diwali Ke Liye, Holi Ke Liye, Raksha Bandhan Ke Liye, Ram Navbi Ke Liye, Krishna Janmashtami
09:14Ke Liye, Chhute Nahi Milegi, But For Eid, We Will Extend The Number Of Scheduled Holidays.
09:21You Know, I Have Seen That, Be It Raksha Bandhan, Be It Krishna Janmashtami, Be It
09:26Holi, Be It Ram Navmi, Be It Deepavali, Most Of The Holidays In Mumbai, Maharashtra And
09:31In Many Parts Of India Are Optional Holidays.
09:34But I Know That During Christmas, You Know, Schools And Colleges And Banks Are Closed.
09:38I Know During Eid, Schools, Colleges And Banks Are Closed.
09:41I Know During Buddhapurnima, Schools, Colleges And Banks Are Closed.
09:43We Never Complain.
09:44Okay.
09:45So, Sanju Varma, I Am Going To Circle Back To You And I Am Going To Ask You, Is It Because
09:48The Question Wasn't About Hindu First Festivals Versus Festivals Of Other Religions.
09:53The Question Is, Is It Time To De-Escalate The Tension Because What We Are Moving Towards
09:57Is Not Only Alarming, Disconcerting And Can Result In Stuff That India Has Witnessed
10:04Before And We Don't Want To Go There.
10:06I Want To Bring In Mahima Singh, National Spokesperson, Congress Into This Conversation.
10:10Mahima Singh, You Know, The Kind Of Security Arrangements That We See Doesn't
10:14Quite Warrant A Festival.
10:15But Actually, It Seems That There Is A Terror Alert In The Country.
10:19Having Said That, This Is The First Time It Has Happened.
10:22But Mahima Singh, The Flip Side Is It Is Better To Be Safe Than Sorry.
10:26Put All The Policing In Force And Hope That No Untoward Incident Happened.
10:33Jai Hind.
10:37I Absolutely Agree With You, Preeti.
10:39And In Fact, Rajesh Reddy, A Poet, Agrees With This Situation When He Says,
10:45Yeh Sare Sheher Mein Dehshat Si Kyon Hain, Yakeen Ankal Koi Tyohar Hoga.
10:49You See, The BJP Spokesperson's Entire Narrative Is Rather The Antithesis Of The Actuality.
10:56You Rightly Said, Preeti, That What We Are Seeing Today Is Unprecedented.
11:00The Amount Of Security Protocols That We See Across Cities And Across Sensitive
11:06Geographical Terrains Is Quite Appalling And Is Quite Worrisome.
11:10Because This Is The Country Where Ganga, Jamuni, Tehzeeb Was The Norm.
11:16You See, Not Only Tolerance But I Would Say Rather Camaraderie, Fraternity
11:21Was The Demeanor Of Our Society.
11:26But Today, What You See Over The Last 10 Years, What Else Do You Expect
11:31When The Head Of The State, Our Honorable Prime Minister Goes Out For General Elections
11:37And Uses Words Like Mughal Mass, Machi, Mujra, Mangal Sutra.
11:43Everything That Defines And Demonizes Religion Is Being Projected By Our Honorable Prime Minister
11:50Who Should Have Rather Been Responsible For Ensuring Peace And Harmony Across States,
11:56Across Religions, Across Communities.
11:59And Here On Your Show, What We Are Seeing At The Moment Is From The BJP Spokesperson.
12:05A Party, You Know, Whose Ministers Go Out And Say Goli Maro Saro Ko
12:11And You Know, She Is Speaking About Fraternity And Antagonizing Other Religions, All Of Them.
12:17I Mean, Today, She Is Not Left Even One. She Is Going On One After The Other.
12:22She Is Talking About Christmas. She Is Talking About Eid.
12:26She Is Talking About All The Other Festivals.
12:29But She Is Not Understanding The Responsibilities On Their Shoulders To Maintain The Harmony.
12:34Okay, I Am Going To Come Right Back To You. I Am Also Going To Introduce Yashwarda Nazar.
12:38But Before I Do That, Sanju Verma Wants To Come In And I Will Take A Comment Each By You
12:42And Sanju Verma Before We Cut Across To Yashwarda Nazar.
12:45Sanju Verma, The Fact Is What We See Is Unprecedented.
12:48You Could Say It Is Because Of Years Of Appeasement That Is Gone By And It Is Time Now To Settle Scores.
12:53But Those Scores Are Being Settled At The Cost Of The Communal Harmony, Religious Harmony
12:59That Every Festival Bought. The Question I Will Ask You Again Sanju Verma
13:03Is It Time Now Somewhere Down The Line To De-Escalate Politically
13:07Because The Kind Of Language, I Am Not Saying It Is Coming In From One Side.
13:10It Is Coming In From Either Side. But De-Escalated So People Can Go Back To What Really Was
13:15Enjoying Festivals.
13:17Preeti, Tali Do Haat Se Bachti Hai. Tali Ek Haat Se Nahi Bachti.
13:23And Let Me Just Tell The Congress, You Know, I Have The Guts On Your Shore
13:28And On Various Other Zillion Debates That I Do. I Have Condemned Ramesh Biduri
13:32For The Language He Used On The Floor Of The Parliament.
13:35But I Want To Ask The Congress, What Did Rahul Gandhi Say On The Eve Of The
13:40Prana Pratishta Celebrations At Ram Janmabhoomi?
13:43Arre Aapko Aishwarya Rao Mandiron Na Naachti Hui Milegi.
13:46And This Is A Party Which Has Lost Haryana, Lost Maharashtra.
13:49Zero Seats In Delhi. Inko Abhi Bhi Akkal Nahi Aayi.
13:52People Can See Through The Charlatan That Rahul Gandhi Is.
13:56Tell Me One Thing, Prime Minister Modi, You Know, He Always Wishes Everybody
14:01Chahe Wo Jain Dharam Ke Festivals Ho, You Know, Buddha Dharam Ke Festivals Ho.
14:06He's Wished The Muslim Community. Have You Ever Seen Sonia Gandhi
14:10Or Rahul Gandhi Unequivocally, Unconditionally Wish Hindus On Ram Janmabhoomi?
14:15Maine Toh Nahi Dekha. Kabhi Aapne Rahul Gandhi Ko Dekha Hai Diwali Par
14:19Hindus Ko Mubarak Baat Dete Huye, Maine Toh Nahi Dekha.
14:22Kabhi Aapne Dekha Hai Rahul Gandhi Ko Raksha Bandhan Ya, You Know,
14:27Krishna Janmashtami Par Hindus Ko Mubarak Baat Dete Huye, Maine Toh Nahi Dekha.
14:32And Let Me Tell You One More Thing, Preeti.
14:34You Know, Nothing Has Changed In Terms Of What The Basic DNA Of Congress Is
14:39And That Is Where The Problem Lies.
14:41In 1951, Nehru Wrote A Letter To Rajendra Prasad Saying,
14:45My Dear Rajendra Babu, I Urge You Not To Participate In The Somnath Mandir
14:50Inauguration Ceremony As It Reeks Of Hindu Revivalism.
14:54Aur Itne Saanon Ke Baat, Unke Padkaon Ke Rahul Gandhi Wahi Dahana Rahe Hain.
14:59Don't Forget, This Is The Same Malik Arjun Khadge Who Said On The E-Mail,
15:03Lok Sabha Elections, Yatey Narendra Modi Satta Mein Wapis Aaga Hai,
15:06All The Mosques And Churches Will Be Demolished, Aisa Toh Kuch Hua Nahi.
15:10So It Is The Other Side Which Needs To Be Escalated.
15:12Okay, I'm Going To Come Right Back.
15:14Okay, I'm Going To Come Right Back.
15:16But Sanju Verma, You Know, Rahul Gandhi Has Actually Wished On Both,
15:20What I Can See, My Research Team Has Just Sent Me On Diwali,
15:24On Raksha Bandhan In Both. I'll Come Back To You On That.
15:28But Mahima Singh, I Want To Bring You In And I Want To Also,
15:30You Know, Get In Yashwardhan Azad Who Is With Us.
15:33But 30 Seconds Mahima Singh.
15:35The Fact Is, What Sanju Verma Indicated,
15:38That Of All The Years Of The Congress Rule,
15:41The Pendulum Had Swung So Far Left,
15:43That It Will Take Time For It To Actually Come In.
15:45Now It Is Going All The Way Right.
15:47Its Payback Time Is What Sanju Verma Is Saying.
15:49It Is The Congress Party That Set The Norms For Secularism And Fraternity In This Country
15:55And Very Efficiently So.
15:57And To The BJP Spokesperson On The Eve Of Holi
16:00And Today Is Holi Ka Dehen,
16:02Burn All Negativity, Pessimism.
16:04I Just Want To Remind Her,
16:06Mazhab Nahi Sikhata, Aapas Mein Bair Rakhna,
16:09Hindi Hai Hum, Hindi Hai Hum,
16:11Hindi Hai Hum, Vatan Hai, Hindustan Hamara,
16:13Sare Jahan Se Achha Hai, Hindustan Hamara.
16:16Nonetheless, She Would Have A Problem With The Word Hindustan Also.
16:19Although Now Prime Minister Is Going Out To Sufi Eves
16:21And Using That Word Extensively.
16:24But That Is My Message To The BJP And To The Spokesperson.
16:27And I Urge Her To Please Stop At This
16:29And Do Not Go Any Further With The Hatred Propaganda On Your Show Any Further.
16:33Alright, I Want To Bring In Yashoda And Azad Into This Conversation.
16:35Because Mr. Azad,
16:37You Know,
16:39The Sad Part Is, Festivals Have Become All About Policing Now.
16:42What Was Holi Ramzan Is Now Holi Versus Ramzan.
16:46Its A Battleground Of Sorts.
16:48Where On The Eve Of A Festival,
16:50One Would See People Celebrating.
16:52You Know, There Is A Sense Of Joy.
16:53Going Into Each Other's Houses.
16:55Today, Sadly, All We Have Run Through The Course Of The Morning
16:57Is One Flag March After The Other
16:59In Successive Cities, Uttar Pradesh
17:01And Even Across India.
17:03How Does One, In Terms Of
17:05Logistics Administratively
17:07De-Escalate This Tension?
17:09Because If It Continues To Build Up,
17:11We Are Sitting On A Communal Tinder Box.
17:13See, There Are Two Ways, Preeti.
17:15One Is Of Course At The Government Level.
17:18I Am Of The Firm Opinion That,
17:20You Know, Faith And Religion
17:22They Are Absolutely Private Affairs.
17:24You Know, Faith Can Shake Mount Kailash.
17:27But The Government Cannot Go By Faith.
17:30It Has To Temper Faith
17:33And Bring Rationality.
17:35And Therefore, The Government Should Be
17:37Totally Away From Any Kind Of
17:39Religion Or Festival.
17:40That Is Number One.
17:41That Is At A Policy Level.
17:44But I Can Tell You Another Thing.
17:45At The District Level, I Myself
17:47Remember In 1980s When I Was SP Sihore.
17:50And We Had A Dussara Procession
17:52From One Line.
17:53And We Had A Paharam Procession
17:55On The Same Day We Had.
17:56On The Other Line.
17:57And Both Collector And I
17:58Were Standing In Between.
17:59But We Let Them Pass.
18:01But We Put The Fear Of God In Them.
18:03That If Anything Happens,
18:05We Will Fire Even If We Don't Survive.
18:07So, I Think Two Things.
18:09One, The District Administration
18:10Has To Be Firm.
18:12And That Is How It Can Be.
18:14It Cannot Go According To The
18:16Dictates Of The Chief Ministers
18:17Or The Ministers.
18:18That Is Number One.
18:19Number Two, I Will Also Tell You
18:21That What Is Happening Today Is
18:23That All The So-Called Institutions.
18:27You Know, For Example, You Have A
18:29You Know, All Community Meeting.
18:31All Faith Meeting.
18:32These Are Being Done.
18:34But Not In Principle Actually.
18:36But Just As A Kind Of A Tokenism.
18:38I Would Also Say That
18:41Secularism Does Not Mean
18:44Singing Songs And Slogans.
18:46You Know, Bhav Bhai Chara.
18:47It Means A Tough Regulation.
18:49And I Agree With You When You Said
18:51That There Was A Phase, Which I Have
18:53Seen, Was Going The Absolutely Other
18:55Way, A Kind Of An Appeasement.
18:57And You Know, Whether It Is Appeasement
18:59Or Whether It Is Right Winking,
19:01It Is All For Votes.
19:02And Therefore, This Time In 21st
19:05Century, Preeti, There Are Too Many
19:08Festivals.
19:09There Are Too Many Things.
19:10You Can Have A Festival.
19:12You Can Have Anything.
19:13But Never Can You Destroy Public
19:16Life Or Public Order.
19:18That'S Extremely Important.
19:20You Can Have Your Only.
19:21You Can Have More.
19:22I, For Example, Don'T Believe Even
19:24In Azans Making A Noise.
19:26I Don'T Believe In Making, You
19:28Know, These Temples Making A Noise.
19:30Do To Your Own Space.
19:31But You Cannot Do Anything Outside.
19:33And Last Point, Last Point.
19:35I Tell You, I Remember During The
19:37During February And March In My
19:40District In Sihor, There Should Be
19:42Noise On A Loudspeakers For All
19:44Kinds Of Festivals And Songs.
19:46We Shut Them Down.
19:47Nothing Happened.
19:48This Is What Is Required Today.
19:50No Public Noise Over Festival.
19:53You Know, Before I Go Back For A
19:54Quick Word With A Political
19:55Panelist, Mr. Razad, I'll Ask You
19:57One Question.
19:58You Spoke Of The District
19:59Administration Needs To Be Firm.
20:01You Know, We Are Living In An Age
20:02Where The Credibility Of Every
20:04District Administration Is Being
20:05Questioned.
20:06So, How Do You Differentiate Of
20:08Being Fair Yet Being Firm?
20:11I'll Tell You, There Are Officers
20:13Still Now Collectors And SPs Who
20:15Are Being Kicked Out.
20:16But Doesn't Matter.
20:17Rahul Lodha Was In Ratlam.
20:19And He Stopped A Mad Procession
20:21Trying To, You Know, Disturb The
20:25Other Community.
20:26He Was Kicked Out.
20:27So What?
20:28It Doesn't Matter.
20:29People Respect Him.
20:30And If You Have Cases Like This,
20:31It Will Set A Precedent.
20:33And I'm Telling You, Priti, Sooner
20:35Or Later In 21st Century, You
20:37Cannot Have This Kind Of A Racket
20:38Going On.
20:39Whether It Was Going On Earlier
20:40From One Side And Now Going Off
20:42The Other Side.
20:43All Right.
20:44Okay, Let Me Bring In Quick
20:45Closing Comments.
20:46Sanju Verma, You Have Two
20:47Minutes.
20:48Make Your Point.
20:49On The Only Question That We
20:51Asked, Sanju Verma, I Would
20:53Reckon Should Be That We Don't
20:55Have These Kind Of Visuals When
20:56Another Festival Comes Around.
20:58Nobody Really Wants To See A Flag
20:59March When All You Want To See Is
21:01Color, Joy, Celebration, People
21:03Sharing Things With Each Other.
21:05You Know, Priti, Let's Get One
21:07Thing Very Clear.
21:08When Last Year During Ram Navami,
21:10Mamata Banerjee Said That Why Do
21:12Hindus Want To Celebrate Ram Navami
21:14In Muslim Areas?
21:15Murshidabad, Burdwan,
21:17You Know, Howrah, Hooghly,
21:19North 24 Parganas, These Are
21:21You Know, Places Where Muslim
21:23Population Is More Than 47%.
21:25Toh Matlab Yeh Muslim Area Ho Gaye?
21:27Yahaan Par Hindu Apna Pyaar Na Manai?
21:29What Happened To National Media?
21:30And I'm Not Talking Of India Today.
21:32Everybody Consumed Ferry Call.
21:33What Were We Told On Debate After
21:35Debate? But You Know, Sanju Verma,
21:36Why Do Hindus Have To Celebrate Ram Navami
21:38In Murshidabad And In North 24 Parganas?
21:40Leave The Muslims In Peace.
21:42You Know, Durga Puja Visarjan Coincides
21:44With Muharram. Sanju Verma Is Said.
21:46He's Told. You Know, Pardon Me. Sanju
21:48Verma, What Is Your Problem? Postpone
21:50Durga Visarjan By One Day Na? Kerala
21:52Mein, Hindus Are Not Given Holidays On
21:54Krishna Janmashtami, But
21:56Muharram Ke Liye, Ramadan Ke Liye,
21:58Eid Ke Liye, Chutti Par Chutti Par
22:00Chutti Milti Hai, And Sanju Verma
22:02Is Told On Debate. Kya Fark Padta Hai Yadi
22:04I Have Tremendous
22:08Respect For Your Research Team.
22:10Rahul Gandhi Has Wished People
22:12Oh, Well And Good. Acha Laga Sunkar.
22:14But Also, I Am Sure Your Research Team Will
22:16Corroborate. Who Said,
22:18Mandiron Mein Balakar Hota Hai Rahul Gandhi?
22:20Who Said, Aishwarya Rai Mandiron Mein Nachti
22:22Hui Milegi Rahul Gandhi?
22:24And Let Me Tell You, Have You Forgotten?
22:26The Recently Concluded Mahasambh,
22:28D.K. Shivkumar Went There To Take An Amrit
22:30Snaan. Becharen D.K. Shivkumar
22:32Aur Har Platform Par Jaa Jaa Kar
22:34Safai Ben Pari.
22:36Oh You Know, This Is My Personal Last Thought.
22:38This Has Nothing To Do With The Congress Party.
22:40Congress Is Hindi Phobic.
22:42Congress Is Hindu Phobic.
22:44I Challenge Rahul Gandhi To Talk About
22:46Islamic Terror.
22:48I Challenge Rahul Gandhi To Talk Against
22:50He Will Not Do That.
22:52You Know, We Are Talking About My Research Team
22:54And They Are Actually Pretty Good.
22:56And The Research Team Tells Me, Mahima Singh
22:58That, You Know, It Cuts Both Ways.
23:00Because We Can Talk About And We Should Talk About
23:02On The Kind Of Language Being Used
23:04By Politicians Which Come From The BJP
23:06Especially During The Time Of Holi
23:08How Dictates Are Being Given
23:10That Muslims Should Not Step Out On Holi
23:12How Mosques Are Being Covered. It's Never Happened.
23:14We Must Speak About It. But
23:16Did The Congress, Which Is In
23:18You Know, Alliance With The Government
23:20In The State Of Jammu And
23:22Kashmir. Even Say One Word
23:24Where Fashion Designers Were Made To
23:26Apologize Because They Conducted
23:28A Fashion Show During The Month Of Ramzan
23:30And They Were, You Know, Two
23:32Models Spotting Bikini Wear Where
23:34Nothing's Wrong In That And
23:36The Entire Political Establishment
23:38Forced, Coerced
23:40The Fashion Designers To Apologize
23:42You Know, Intolerance Sometimes Also Cuts
23:44Both Ways And That Is When Hypocrisy
23:46Comes In Because One Political Party
23:48Speaks For One Cause And Then Remains
23:50Shut On The Other.
23:52Well, Preeti,
23:54I Would Say That Excesses
23:56Wherever They Are
23:58Definitely Not Welcome.
24:00Extremes, I Would Say, You Know,
24:02We Say,
24:08So You See,
24:10Excesses Are Wrong. But The Excesses That
24:12We Really Need To Worry Today Are The
24:14Excesses We Are Facing From America.
24:16You Know, The Government
24:18Needs To Be Proactive On Many Fronts.
24:20What Happened In Jammu And Kashmir,
24:22If It Is An Extreme, Then I Would
24:24Say Yes, That Needs To Be Checked To
24:26Wherever There Is An Excess,
24:28Wherever There Is An Extreme Of
24:30The Authority. I Think It
24:32Needs To Be Checked. It Needs To Be Streamlined.
24:34But What We Are Talking About Here
24:36In Fact, Hearing The BJP Spokesperson
24:38Distort Statement
24:40After Statement, I Would
24:42Really, Really Welcome If She Could
24:44Come Forward With Evidence.
24:46Show Us On Record Where Our
24:48Honorable Leader, Honorable LOK
24:50Rahul Gandhi Has Said What She
24:52Has Said, Then You Know, That
24:54Would Help The Viewers As Well.
24:56But I Would Rather...
24:58Don't Talk Over Each Other Ma'am.
25:00Okay, 10 Seconds. Mahima Singh, You Have
25:0210 Seconds To Conclude. I Want To Bring In
25:04Mr. Yashwarda Nazar. 10 Seconds Ma'am,
25:06Make Your Point.
25:08The BJP Spokesperson Wants All Fairness For Herself,
25:10Complete Two Minutes But Wants To Intrude
25:12The Way They Are Letting The Americas
25:14To Intrude In India.
25:16But I Would Just Say Happy Holi To
25:18The BJP Spokesperson And To The Entire
25:20BJP And Remind Them
25:22That It Ought To Be A Happy Holi
25:24For One And All. Please
25:26Ensure That Your Administration
25:28Is Sponsored. You Know, And I Just
25:30Want To Bring In For The Next... Just Last 20 Seconds
25:32If I Can Get In Mr. Razad Back Into This Conversation
25:34Because Miss... Do We Have Mr. Razad?
25:36Yes. Okay, Just 20 Seconds
25:38Mr. Razad, If We Get You Back Into This Conversation.
25:40What We Are Witnessing Right Now
25:42Is, You Know, What Was Simmering
25:44Earlier Is Now Seemingly
25:46Boiling Over. What
25:48We Are Looking At Is
25:50Deeply Worrisome.
25:52Do You Think We Are Actually Building Into
25:54Something Far More
25:56You Know, Serious Than Just
25:58The Kind Of Empty Rhetoric That
26:00Is, You Know, The Surround Sound Of It?
26:02Well, The
26:04Rhetoric Is Always Empty, But It
26:06Does Have Its Impact.
26:08So, In Fact, These Rhetorics
26:10Have Combined When We Can Come
26:12To A Communal Boil. So
26:14That'S Why They Are Not At All Necessary.
26:16The Government Should Be A Benefactor.
26:18It Should Be An Enabling Factor For All
26:20The Religions. But This Kind Of Rubbish,
26:22The Kind Of Statement Comes From
26:24Politicians Is Absolutely
26:26Wrong And It Should Not Be Allowed.
26:28And Not Even, You Know, A Statements
26:30Which Come That One Community Should Avoid
26:32This Religion Or The Other. If You Are
26:34Playing Holy, You Play Holy. But Don'T
26:36Play Holy With People Who Don'T Want To Play
26:38Holy. It'S A Very Simple Thing. And It Can
26:40Be Enforced. And The Other
26:42Thing Is, The Last Point Which I Am Trying
26:44To Make Is That The Government Should
26:46Totally Dissociate Itself
26:48From Any Kind Of Religion,
26:50Which Is Not Happening. And Which Was
26:52Not Happening Earlier In The Form Of A Kind
26:54Of A Secularism, Which Was An Amazing
26:56Kind Of Appeasement. So, We Are At Two
26:58Ends. And We Need To Strike A
27:00Mean And A Balance. Well, Let'S Just
27:02Hope So. I Appreciate All Three Of You
27:04For Joining Us. All Three Of Our Panelists
27:06Have A Really Happy Holi. All Our
27:08Viewers A Very Happy Holi. And
27:10I Am Very Sad To Say This. Let'S
27:12Have A Very Peaceful Holi. Something We Never
27:14Quite Said Earlier.
27:16Welcome Back You Are Watching
27:18To The Point. On To Our Debate
27:20Number Two. With What Started
27:22Of Viewers In The Parliament
27:24A Complete Face-Off Between
27:26The Centre
27:28And The DMK Over The
27:30Three Language Policy.
27:32The Language Regional War Is Now
27:34Escalated By The DMK.
27:36The Stalin Government Today
27:38Cancelled. Rejected The National Rupee
27:40Symbol. Dropping It From The Budget
27:42Documents Of Tamil Nadu.
27:44Now, The Rupee Symbol
27:46In The Budget Documents Of Tamil Nadu
27:48Was Replaced With Tamil Letter.
27:50Well, In All
27:52Of This. The DMK Clearly
27:54Escalating The Language War.
27:56Symbolically Rejecting The Rupee
27:58Symbol. But On The Other Hand
28:00The BJP Has Now Come Out
28:02And Said This Is A Separatist Move.
28:04They Rejected A National Symbol.
28:06Here'S The Full Report.
28:08Tamil Nadu Language
28:10War Hits An Absurd Low.
28:12Stalin Government Has Dumped
28:14The National Rupee Symbol.
28:16Replacing It With Tamil Letters
28:18Ru In The Current Budget.
28:20The Story First Broken
28:22By India Today Saw The National
28:24Currency Symbol Being Dumped
28:26By A State For The Very First Time
28:28Ever.
28:30The 2025 Tamil Nadu Budget
28:32Copy Shows The Tamil Letters
28:34Ru As Compared To The Budget
28:36Copy Of 2024 That
28:38Had The National Rupee Symbol.
29:06DMK Was Immediately
29:30Accused Of Hypocrisy By The BJP
29:32Which Went On To Call
29:34It A Stupid Move Which Can
29:36Harm India's Federal Structure.
30:04DMK Seems To Be
30:18Unaware Of The Rupee Symbol's
30:20Strong Link To Tamil Nadu.
30:22The Rupee Symbol Was Designed By
30:24Uday Kumar Dharmalingam, An Academic
30:26And Designer From Tamil Nadu.
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30:32Uday Kumar Dharmalingam, An Academic
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