"4000 euros par mois, pour moi, c'est classe moyenne."
Ses propos ont fait polémique. Brut a contacté @bayrou pour qu'il s'explique. Voici sa réponse.
Ses propos ont fait polémique. Brut a contacté @bayrou pour qu'il s'explique. Voici sa réponse.
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00:00How rich are we?
00:01Well, it depends. If we're talking about assets...
00:04François Hollande said it was 4,000 euros a month.
00:06Excuse me?
00:07François Hollande said it was 4,000 euros a month.
00:084,000 euros a month, for me, is middle class.
00:17We are in the framework of the RTL show, which is called The Grand Jury,
00:21and there is a discussion, of course,
00:24about whether we should make the rich pay for the crisis.
00:28And from there, another question arises,
00:32which is, from when are we rich in France?
00:35And journalists remind me of François Hollande's statement,
00:40which I found stupid at the time, and I still think it today,
00:44which was that we are rich from 4,000 euros in income.
00:49Which is, for me, without meaning.
00:544,000 euros in income, for me, is a middle class home.
00:59And I find it, a couple of nurses at the hospital,
01:05together, they earn between 4,500 and 5,000 euros.
01:11A couple of retired teachers,
01:14the average pension of a teacher is 2,600 euros a month,
01:18so a couple of retired teachers earn a little over 5,000 euros a month.
01:25And a staff member of one of the most important companies in our region,
01:32but a staff member in charge of services,
01:35earns 3,500, 4,000 or 4,500 and sometimes more.
01:41So, am I going to say that nurses are rich,
01:49that retired teachers are rich,
01:52and that the staff members of one of the companies in the region are rich?
01:56It's absolutely stupid.
01:59It's very hurtful for them.
02:03A 4,000-euro home, it's not rich.
02:06A single person, even at 4,000 euros,
02:08considering the Paris region,
02:10you can't go crazy.
02:12And so, this way of constantly stigmatizing those
02:16who manage to climb a little in the scale of income,
02:20I think it's a weakness.
02:22And it's very revealing to have seen a controversy of this kind.
02:26And for you, yesterday, when you said 4,000 euros,
02:29you thought of a couple or a single person?
02:32Excuse me for saying this.
02:36For a tax home, it's the same thing,
02:38whether you are a couple or a single person.
02:43For the tax home, it's the home that we tax.
02:49For me, a home, a couple, with an income of 4,000 euros,
02:54it's not rich.
02:56And it's hurtful to be able to say that.
02:59This way of, I don't know, stigmatizing...
03:02So, I know very well that there are low wages
03:05in public services, in a community like ours,
03:09when you are categorized, or even categorized,
03:12and you have low incomes.
03:17And in France, instead of stigmatizing those
03:20who climb a little in the scale of wages,
03:23we should wonder why we have such low wages in our country.
03:27Because we don't have the productive apparatus
03:31that allows us to bring income into the country,
03:35to have the need to hire,
03:37and if we needed to hire, to increase the salary.
03:40You can see that there is something
03:42that is revealing of a French weakness.
03:44And this kind of French obsession
03:48that consists of stigmatizing people
03:51who succeed a little better than others,
03:54who succeed materially a little better than others,
03:57and I don't confuse material success with all the others,
04:00but this stigmatization...
04:02Because rich means privileged,
04:05in the mouth of those who use this word.
04:08And so, I find this extremely weakening for our country.
04:12For me, a balanced society,
04:14it should be a society where we can get into work,
04:17even quite low in the scale of wages,
04:20and then go up, progress,
04:22to realize a part of what we expect,
04:26of what we dream.