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  • 3/31/2025
During a Senate Armed Forces hearing on Wednesday, Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) discussed his push for cadets to be able to play sports professionally.

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00:00I'd be remiss if I didn't bring something up about sports.
00:05And I'd like to get each one of your thoughts about this.
00:08I've always felt that playing sports was invaluable to leadership development.
00:13Many of the cadets and midshipmen at your institutions are athletes participating on
00:18the various academy sports teams.
00:21They represent the best of your institutions and our country.
00:25Occasionally, some of these athletes develop to an elite level and are forced to forego
00:31living out their dreams of playing the sport they love at a professional level because
00:37of outdated regulations governing their service obligations.
00:43I'd like to see this year's NDAA reflect a serious commitment to these outstanding individuals.
00:50When appropriate, these cadets and midshipmen should graduate and commission with their
00:56classes and defer their service obligation until their professional sports playing careers
01:03are complete.
01:05These would be commissioned officers in our armed services subject to the same rules and
01:09regulations as their peers, while at the same time providing valuable exposure and increased
01:14visibility to the academics while they play sports at the highest level.
01:19I know that's not protocol for what we do as we speak, but General, I'd like to get
01:24your thoughts on that.
01:25With an all-volunteer military now, we are looking for possible ways to get more and
01:30more young men and women involved in our academies.
01:34Senator, the Army is a team contact sport.
01:40That's how I view the Army.
01:42And those young men and women that are coming into the Army, regardless of their background
01:47and upbringing, better be prepared to get involved in a team contact sport because that's
01:53what you all as the citizens of our nation ask of us.
01:57As a result, when we think through the development of leaders of character, I may not be the
02:05best player because numbers don't always define somebody's potential.
02:11I'm looking for the best player for the team.
02:13And for those individuals that have the elite capability to pursue professional sports,
02:21I absolutely support.
02:23And I think that we have to look at measures, as you outlined from a commissioning perspective,
02:30that would allow those individuals to go into the professional sport of whatever their talent
02:37is in, execute that, and then have them serve in the Army.
02:43And I think there are combinations of ways to do that through not only active service
02:50concurrent with their respective playing for a team.
02:56Of course, there are different things that have to go with that with moving them around
03:00and such if they're traded.
03:02Or there's the deferral of the respective active duty service obligation that they have.
03:07But I think that it results in multiple benefits, not only to each of our academies, but I think
03:15it benefits our services also through deliberate outreach and engagement that we would ask
03:21of those talented individuals.
03:25Admiral?
03:26Sir, when I was a Midshipman fourth class, Napoleon McCallum was my upper class.
03:31The original Admiral, David Robinson, was also an upper class.
03:35They were heroes of mine.
03:36I saw how brilliant they did in their careers to not only bring in incredible talent to
03:42the Navy, to the Naval Academy, as well to supporting our nation.
03:47There are many ways to serve, sir, and they did brilliantly in that.
03:50So I'm a huge fan of it.
03:51I appreciate that we may look at this.
03:53I think that the return on investment is incredible, and I fully support it, sir.
03:59General?
04:01General Tupperville, I also, as a freshman, looked up to one Chad Hennings, a monster
04:06of a football player.
04:07Big old boy.
04:08Yes, sir.
04:09Yeah.
04:10And benefited greatly.
04:11He also, during that time, his value was not only was he an amazing football player, but
04:17he also went out and served in fleet combat operations in Desert Storm during that time,
04:22bringing both of that media value, that recruiting value to bear, the service and the professional
04:28capabilities.
04:30And I believe where the NDAA is now, by giving us an opportunity for three per year, is a
04:34great opportunity for us to pick those truly elite athletes that can go on to that next
04:40level.
04:41As a data point, over the last five years, we've had 20 Air Force Academy cadets, or
04:46excuse me, 22, that have moved forward into professional sports.
04:5013 met their first seasons and, unfortunately, were not able to continue, and they came back
04:55to active duty, and nine are continuing.
04:58And over that time, that two to three is, I think, an opportunity for us to continue
05:01to go forward.
05:02I would also ask, sir, as we have this conversation for pro sports, to have a fulsome conversation
05:07of the impact of the transfer portal on our military service academies and how that is
05:13taking young men and women away from service to the nation until they've had an opportunity
05:18to blossom as leaders.
05:20Yeah.
05:21Well, that's a great point, and I look forward to visiting with all three of you about this
05:24before our NDAA is put together this June.
05:28NIL is a huge problem, and I understand it's a huge problem for you also.
05:32So again, I want to sit down with all three of you before we get to that point in June,
05:38and hopefully we can work something out, because I think it'd be a great tool for all of you
05:42for recruiting, because you all take our best and brightest, and all of us in here, all
05:48the senators and congressmen, we have an opportunity to send the best young men and women we possibly
05:53have in our states, and you do a great job with them.
05:55So I want to thank you for coming today.
05:58This is a fact-finding mission.
06:01We haven't done it in 30 years.
06:02We'll do it again next year, and hopefully we'll make it bigger and brighter.
06:06We just want to enlighten people about what you do, because leadership, discipline, teamwork
06:13is everything that goes along with what our country's about.
06:16And again, it's so, so important.
06:19We can't really do this enough.
06:21But thanks again for what you do.
06:23How you do it.
06:24And tell all of your cadets and midshipmen that we're for them, and I look forward to
06:29being on the Board of Visitors at the Air Force Academy this year and visiting with
06:33you.
06:34And again, you're our future, and we hope you use our young people at your convenience,
06:42but also give them the best and brightest future they can possibly get, because we're
06:45going to go as a country is how they go.
06:48So thanks again, and this has been a good hearing, and this hearing is adjourned.

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