Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller speaks to reporters outside the White House.
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00:00Hey Steven, how are you?
00:03Hey, I'm good, thank you. Good morning, everybody.
00:06Good morning.
00:07Who wants to go first?
00:08I'll ask, do you plan on ramping up the administration plan on ramping up deportations to El Salvador?
00:14And how many people do you want El Salvador to take from the United States?
00:19Well, as an example, there are thousands of either trained de Uruguay members left in this country
00:27or their affiliates and associates.
00:30So obviously some portion of those will be going to El Salvador
00:34as part of our effort to eradicate this foreign terrorist organization from the United States.
00:39But there's no upper limit to the agreement.
00:42We're going to continue to send foreign terrorist aliens to El Salvador as well as to many other countries.
00:48I think you were first, I think.
00:52Is the president asking President Pekeli today to send Mr. Abrego Garcia back to the U.S.?
00:58Well, again, to be very clear about this, the Supreme Court ruled that the district court cannot, obviously,
01:06compel us to conduct diplomacy or foreign policy with the other nation.
01:11And so they overturned the district court order.
01:13And they said very clearly that the district court, it was actually unanimous ruling, overreached in that ruling.
01:19I'm not going to reveal any head of state conversations or conversations at the State Department or the lower level.
01:26But the important point that we all agree on is that he's an El Salvadorian.
01:30That is his country of nativity and citizenship.
01:33He is an illegal alien in the United States.
01:35He has no lawful right to be here.
01:37He was issued a final order of removal from this country.
01:40And so it's up to El Salvador and to the government and the people of El Salvador what the fate of their own citizens is.
01:47We can't extradite citizens of foreign countries to our country over the objection of those countries.
01:53Obviously, to do that would be a monstrous violation of international law.
01:58We can't go into other countries and kidnap their citizens and then take them back into our country.
02:02That's up to El Salvador and their own.
02:04But you can ask them to send him back, right?
02:06But it's their own citizen, right?
02:09He's an citizen.
02:10So remember, this whole entire conversation has been wrong from the beginning because nobody was mistakenly deported anywhere.
02:17That's the big fact that all of you, most of you, have got it wrong.
02:20No one was mistakenly sent anywhere.
02:23The only mistake that was made is a lawyer put an incorrect line in a legal filing and they've since been relieved of doing it.
02:29He is El Salvadorian.
02:31He is an illegal alien.
02:33He was deported to El Salvador.
02:36I would welcome anyone here to tell me what country they think we should be sending El Salvadorian illegal aliens to.
02:41Didn't the judge order that he not be deported to El Salvador five years ago?
02:46So what you're referring to is an immigration judge.
02:49So that's Article 2, not Article 3.
02:51So there was no Article 3 restraint on his removal.
02:55A withholding order or a cancellation of removal order, first of all, as I'm sure you know, does not eliminate the deportation order, right?
03:03We all agree on that.
03:04So his status was he's an illegal alien who's been ordered deported, which means he could be indefinitely detained and removed to any other country in the world, right?
03:11He could be sent to literally any country on the face of the earth.
03:14But the preference, general matter, is to deport someone to their home country, right?
03:19In this case, El Salvador.
03:21Because he is a member of a foreign terrorist organization, withholding orders don't apply to FTOs for obvious reasons.
03:27So if you had an illegal alien, say, from Syria, who's a member of ISIS, they can't apply for withholding of removal.
03:37So that principle applies here.
03:39Furthermore, the gang that he said was going to persecute him, so this theory that he's an MS-13 and there's this rival gang, the 18th Street Gang, doesn't exist anymore in El Salvador.
03:49So the entire concept is false.
03:53But again, when the media talks about the idea that there was a mistaken removal, it implies to, I think, a normal listener, the wrong person was sent somewhere.
04:04He's an illegal alien from El Salvador.
04:06Where was he sent?
04:07To El Salvador.
04:08To prison in El Salvador.
04:09That's different, right?
04:10It's different sending someone home and sending them into a prison that they could remain in for life.
04:14It is up to El Salvador how to handle the process for their own citizens.
04:21Again, what you seem to be asking us to do is to change the government and the laws of El Salvador.
04:25So if we deport somebody back to, for example, Syria, should we be closely involved on a day-to-day basis with the Syrian government detailing that person's life and future?
04:35If we deport, say, 100,000 people back to Haiti, should we open a case file on each of those 100,000 people and ask every day, what's their housing situation?
04:43What's their health care situation?
04:45What might they need?
04:46What might they want?
04:47Once someone's out of our country, that becomes the problem of their host country, not our country.
04:52These people chose to invade us.
04:55So there's a lot of concern from the corporate media about the invaders, but they chose to invade us.
05:00It's our responsibility to return them back to where they came from or another country willing to take them.
05:05Is the president going to ask for him to be returned to the United States or not?
05:11Yes or no?
05:12First of all, it's not a question for me to answer.
05:15But I think that the assumption that underlies the question is what needs to be corrected,
05:19which is that there was no mistake that was made.
05:23He was sent.
05:24Let me ask you, what do you think would happen to him if he came back to this country?
05:28You're understanding of immigration laws.
05:29What do you think would happen?
05:30But I'm just asking at this point about whether or not the president plans to ask themselves.
05:35You're all asking a lot of questions about this, and you all seem to care about it a lot.
05:38So let's see if any of you have researched anything about this issue at all.
05:42Can anyone here tell me what would happen to the illegal alien from El Salvador if he came back to the United States?
05:47Does anyone here know?
05:48Does anyone want to guess?
05:50Any of you?
05:51He could be with his family.
05:52What?
05:53Does any of you know the answer to the question?
05:55Legally, what would happen if he came back here?
05:57Does any of you know?
05:58Any of you?
05:59Do you really believe the Supreme Court?
06:00I'm talking now.
06:01Do you really believe the Supreme Court doesn't think he should be returned?
06:04Why was it unanimous?
06:05You're done.
06:06You're done.
06:07Does any of you know the answer to the question?
06:10Does any of you?
06:11You've been talking about it for days.
06:12He would be arrested.
06:15He'd be put in confinement.
06:17He would be deported the second time to El Salvador again because there's no withholding order for an alien who's a member of a foreign terrorist organization, number one.
06:27Number two is the gang that he's a member of doesn't exist in El Salvador anymore.
06:31So what you're asking for is to be deported twice.
06:33But additionally, if we chose to pretend, just pretend that the withholding order was real, he would be deported to a different country.
06:43So, for example, he could be deported to Egypt.
06:47So I'm just trying to understand, is it your view?
06:50In other words, you have to find a country that would be willing to take a MS-13 member from El Salvador.
06:57So what I'm trying to understand from you all is, so if he came back and under our laws he was then deported to Egypt or to Somalia, would you then be saying, great, I'm so glad that you deported him to another country?
07:08Is that what you'd all be saying?
07:10Do you understand our immigration laws at all?
07:13But the premise of your question, gentlemen, the return, guys, do you know the difference between a deportation order and a withholding order?
07:23Do you know the difference? Any of you? Please. Do you?
07:27Well, we're not in the government.
07:29So you couldn't even spend 72 hours over the weekend learning the distinction that you've been writing and talking about this whole time?
07:37Steven, we're not calling anywhere. Just raise your hand.
07:41Does any of you know the difference between a deportation order and a withholding order?
07:44The question is, how do you know that he's a member of MS-13? The White House is really said according to intelligence.
07:48According to, by the way, according to our government and his government.
07:51In other words, his government has confirmed in their own intelligence that he's a member of MS-13.
07:56First of all, do you dispute that he's an illegal alien?
07:58What's that?
07:59Do you dispute that he's an illegal alien?
08:01No.
08:02And do you dispute that as an illegal alien, we have the right to deport him?
08:08He's going through the process.
08:11He went through the legal process.
08:12So, I want to be very...
08:14What I'm getting from this conversation, which is educational for me, is that not one person in the media knows the difference between a deportation order and a withholding order.
08:21Is that a fair statement? You're learning about this all for the first time right now?
08:24I guess so, okay.
08:25So, the deportation order means the judge has said he must be deported from the country.
08:31He has no right to remain here any longer.
08:34He must be removed from the country.
08:36So, his only options are to be deported to his home country or another country.
08:41That's it.
08:42There's no other option.
08:43He doesn't get to stay here.
08:44He doesn't get to live here.
08:45He has no future here.
08:46He has no right to be here.
08:47He's an illegal alien.
08:48So, when you keep saying return, because you've been spun up by the open borders advocates,
08:53you all seem to be operating under the illusion that he would be able to come to the United States and just continue to live here illegally.
08:59That's not an option available to him.
09:01His only choices in life are to live in El Salvador or to live in another country.
09:05That's it.
09:06There's no other option, legally or otherwise, because he came to our country illegally.
09:10Do you understand that?
09:12Steven, can I ask, as a matter of policy, does the administration believe that immigration judges, because they're under DOJ,
09:19that their orders can be overruled by what the administration wants?
09:22Is that a general matter of policy?
09:23Well, actually, specifically, the attorney general has authority to overrule the immigration course.
09:29And that's actually by statute.
09:30Yes.
09:31Other questions?
09:32Steven, on the gold card, the President and Secretary Lutnik have suggested they're lining up applicants already.
09:37How many people do you expect to be tagged to this program when the President announces it this week, if he actually announces it this week?
09:45I'll let Secretary Lutnik provide that update, but I appreciate that.
09:49The White House administration is going to report a million undocumented people.
09:54Much more than that.
09:55Steven, also, of the ten alleged gang members that Secretary Rubio said were sent to El Salvador over the weekend, what sort of due process did they get as mandated by the Supreme Court?
10:07They, they, well, you're talking about the alien enemies?
10:09Yes, the alien enemies.
10:10The, the, the, so first of all, a number of those are MS-13.
10:14So again, those are just standard removals of El Salvadorians to El Salvador.
10:18What MS did you provide that they were MS-13?
10:20Okay, so, we seem to be confused about this.
10:24The illegal aliens from El Salvador, again, get deported to El Salvador.
10:29Do you all appreciate that, like, tens of thousands of El Salvadorians have been deported to El Salvador?
10:34You seem to be under the impression that El Salvadorians living in our country illegally just get to stay here.
10:39They don't. They get arrested and deported.
10:41Then, the fact that they're MS-13-ing just was an extra priority on our deporting them.
10:45But we would deport someone to El Salvador regardless of whether or not they were MS-13-ing if they were here illegally.
10:49That's just an extra, because the priority on public safety threats were emphasizing the removals of gang members,
10:56in this case, foreign terrorist organization gang members.
11:00But I ask your other question, they went through all the due process, as you would call it, that is required by law.
11:07So, what I just want to, what I find so mystifying is that I've been, I've been talking to you all for a very long time.
11:13I legitimately, in my entire, I mean, going back years, actually, in my entire professional life,
11:18I've never received this many questions from the media about an American who was raped or murdered by an illegal alien.
11:24Legitimately never.
11:25And all of you who are enjoying your lives and doing quite well, if you had children,
11:30and you were living near any of these people, you would move away immediately.
11:34You would call the police immediately.
11:36You would call us and ask us to make you and your family safer immediately.
11:39And you thank your lucky stars every night that you have enough means and enough money not to live in communities.
11:45For say, illegal alien pedophiles offend and re-offend and keep re-offending and keep re-offending.
11:50There's an expression there, but for the grace of God, go I.
11:53The Biden administration apprehended two illegal aliens from Venezuela.
11:58They were trained in Iraq.
12:01A lot more than two, because I'm telling you, too.
12:04And they decided they were entitled to an enormous amount of due process.
12:08And they didn't feel they had enough evidence to just deport them right away.
12:12So they put them on a monitoring system known as supervised release.
12:16You're familiar with this case.
12:18But a few weeks later, they kidnapped a young girl named Jocelyn Nungary, who was 12 years old at the time.
12:24I'm sure you've seen pictures of her.
12:26I mean, just the most perfect girl you could possibly imagine.
12:32And her mother loved her very much.
12:35She was tied up, savagely beaten, stripped naked, tortured to death, murdered.
12:43Her body was dumped into the lake.
12:45So she didn't get any due process, but I'll tell you who did are the two illegal aliens from Venezuela who stole her forever.
12:53And there's stories like that all over the country.
12:55We just arrested a pedophile illegal alien who was being shielded by a sanctuary city,
13:00who's been charged in 20 sex crimes against children.
13:03Not any of you have had the chance to spend time with victims' families whose children have been raped
13:08or whose wives have been raped and murdered.
13:11But if that doesn't break your heart, nothing will.
13:13I know that we have some people, like Taylor Lawrence, who fantasize about assassinations and things like that.
13:22But in the civilized society, the power of the state is used to keep innocent people alive
13:27and to keep innocent women and children from being hurt.
13:30This administration is never going to apologize for using the power of the state to keep men, women, and children from being savaged and murdered and defeated.
13:38If we release known and suspected MS-13 in Train de Uruguay, and then there's another Jocelyn Nungri,
13:45then whose responsibility is that going to be?
13:47Do you think that we're going to sit around wringing our hands, wondering if, oh, maybe we should release this person,
13:55give them a little bit of extra time, give them a little bit of extra chance to plead their case, and then what?
14:00They kidnap somebody, they slit their throat, they shoot them in the head, and we say, well, at least the illegal alien got you processed.
14:07They're here illegally.
14:08The only place that they deserve to go is to some country other than our country.
14:13And it's not a statistic.
14:14These are real lives.
14:15These are real families.
14:16There's whole neighborhoods, whole neighborhoods in Los Angeles, controlled by illegal alien Mexican street gangs.
14:22Entire neighborhoods where you have to live in fear because of individuals here illegally engaged in extortion and crime.
14:29Not to mention the fentanyl.
14:30You have cartels that have functional control over the entire northern territory in Mexico who are pumping fentanyl,
14:38lacing their drugs with this chemical.
14:41Children are ending up dead.
14:42They're going out to a weekend party.
14:44They think they're taking something safe and they get a heart attack and they die by the thousands.
14:48So we're not going to apologize for doing something about that.
14:51And I just wish we lived in a country where the media gave to one-tenth a damn as much about Americans who were murdered and brutalized and savagely killed, beaten to death,
15:02as they did about whether illegal aliens, that we all agree are illegal aliens, should get a million days in court and a million trials and a million this and a million that.
15:11There's 15 million illegal aliens that violent into the country.
15:14If every one of them got the trial that you're asking for, it would take us centuries to remove them.
15:18Centuries.
15:19We've been talking about this in three, four hundred years.
15:21Their great-great-great-grandchildren would be the ones representing them in court.
15:25That's how long it would take.
15:27Illegal aliens who come to our country have to be removed and they have to remove quickly.
15:31And that is an essential component of having something that we like to call a country.
15:36One last question.
15:37On the matter of visa restrictions, the president on his first day in office signed an executive order calling on his administration,
15:46the Department of Homeland Security, State Department, D&I, to come up with a list of countries that did meet the United States' vetting standards
15:53and to potentially pledge full or partial visa restrictions on those countries.
15:58I just want to know, what is the status of that report that was due to the administration last month?
16:03Do you have a list of countries?
16:05So, the State Department has done the work that you're describing.
16:09It's currently going through the standard review process.
16:12I don't have any update beyond that.
16:14But, I mean, you're correct in your statement that this was a product that was called for at the beginning of the administration.
16:19And it's being worked on.
16:20And I hope we have a further update for you soon.
16:22Last question.
16:23If I may, entire neighborhoods where you have to live in fear because of individuals here illegally engage in extortion and crime.
16:30Not to mention the fentanyl.
16:32You have cartels that have functional control over the entire Northern Territory in Mexico
16:38who are pumping fentanyl, lacing our drugs with this chemical.
16:43Children are ending up dead.
16:44They're going out to a weekend party.
16:45They think they're taking something safe and they get a heart attack and they die by the thousands.
16:50So, we're not going to apologize for doing something about that.
16:53And I just wish we lived in a country where the media gave to one-tenth a damn as much about Americans who were murdered and brutalized and savagely killed, beaten to death,
17:04as they did about whether illegal aliens, that we all agree are illegal aliens, should get a million days in court and a million trials and a million this and a million that.
17:12There's 15 million illegal aliens that violent into the country.
17:15If every one of them got the trial that you're asking for, it would take us centuries to remove them.
17:20Centuries!
17:21We've been talking about this in three, four hundred years.
17:23Their great-great-great-grandchildren would be the ones representing them in court.
17:26That's how long it would take.
17:28Illegal aliens who come to our country have to be removed and they have to remove quickly.
17:32And that is an essential component of having something that we like to call a country.
17:37Steven, on the matter of visa restrictions, the President on his first day in office signed an executive order
17:46calling on his administration, the Department of Homeland Security, State Department, D&I,
17:50to come up with a list of countries that did meet the United States' vetting standards
17:54and to potentially pledge full or partial visa restrictions on those countries.
18:00I just want to know, what is the status of that report that was due to the administration last month?
18:05Do you have a list of countries?
18:07So, State Department has done the work that you're describing.
18:10It's currently going through the standard review process.
18:14I don't have any update beyond that.
18:15But, I mean, you're correct in your statement that this was a product that was called for,
18:19that the beginning of the administration is being worked on.
18:22And I hope we have a further update for you soon.
18:23Last question.
18:24If I may, President Trump continues to say that one of the best arguments for sending undocumented criminals to El Salvador is cost.
18:31When it comes to this White House, considering sending U.S. citizens to El Salvador because of being criminals,
18:37is that the same argument? Cost?
18:39So, the El Salvadorian deportation program is for illegal aliens.
18:46But I would also say that on the cost point, what we're referring to is the fact that long-term incarceration in the United States,
18:53probably cost like 100X what it costs to send somebody to El Salvador.
18:57So, that's the, in the words, if an illegal alien commits a crime in this country and then has to go into our judicial and penal system.
19:04I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm assuming it's probably like 100X cost.
19:07But I'll just close by saying the amount of lives that we've saved since we showed up by shutting down the border,
19:15since President Trump issued his executive orders and began deporting criminals is already in the thousands.
19:21And by the way, we've been out looking for the 500,000 children that Biden trafficked in this country.
19:27The stories we've already uncovered of sex trafficking and labor trafficking and child abuse is beyond imagination.
19:34Half a million minors were smuggled into this country under the last administration.
19:38And the administration not only didn't do anything to prevent it, in every way they funded it, subsidized it,
19:43facilitated it, supported it, contributed to it, that if any American citizen did these things, they'd be in jail for life. Thank you.
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