The Jeremy Kyle Show 9th March 2018
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:00You're watching On Demand. Please check the closing time before trying to vote or enter any competition or other interactivity in this programme, as it may not count and you may still be charged.
00:10On today's show, with Mother's Day this coming Sunday, I thought I'd take this opportunity to meet some amazing mums and share their stories with you.
00:18There aren't many people that make me cry, but you are an amazing lady.
00:24I wore a body's dad when his dad died.
00:2636 and his 35.
00:28Right, so are you going to be burying him next year?
00:30Well, what does he have nightmares about? Is there anybody else that would stand by him?
00:34He's my only bear. Nobody wants to know.
00:36What else am I supposed to do?
00:37You've lost me. Who have you got left?
00:39No one. You're going to go down in the next few months.
00:4236, see him in your dad, in the same gravism.
00:45Is that what you want us to see?
00:47Stand there and do you see him again?
00:49Well, it's going to happen, Andrew.
00:52What do you make of this lady and everything she's had to do with?
00:54Um, inspiration. Strong. I don't think she realises how strong she is sometimes.
01:01Are you going to kick it?
01:03Who's the support?
01:04Arsenal.
01:05Oh, God, she won't be able to score it in the goal then. Come on.
01:07Are you going to be able to score it in the goal then?
01:08MUSIC CONTINUES
01:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:32Hello, my friends, good morning and a big welcome
01:34to a special Mother's Day edition of The Jeremy Kyle Show.
01:36Now, with Mother's Day this coming Sunday,
01:38I thought I'd take this opportunity to meet some amazing mums
01:40and share their stories with you.
01:43We'll start differently.
01:44My first guests this morning are a mother and daughter
01:46who mean business.
01:47Now, Margie and daughter Stacey are here
01:49because Margie's nephew, Andrew,
01:51is quite literally tearing their family apart.
01:53They claim that Andrew repeatedly manipulates his mum, Alison,
01:56so they're here to support her and to tell him,
01:58change your ways cos your family have had enough.
02:01Margie and Stacey are on The Jeremy Kyle Show.
02:03That way.
02:06CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:13You all right? You look terrified.
02:15Yes.
02:16Welcome to the show.
02:17Now, this is about a young man that I've met already, Andrew, OK?
02:21We, last time on the show,
02:23we spoke to him and we spoke to his mum
02:26and this guy has a major, major drug problem.
02:30Can we just... I'll tell you what we'll do.
02:32Everybody look at this.
02:33Just play his clip now, please, Johnny.
02:35Tell me about what went missing this time.
02:37The amount of money.
02:39Oh, this is...
02:40If he has done it, it's the lowest of the law.
02:43Well, this lady was dying in hospital.
02:45You believe he stole £1,000.
02:47Are you on heroin now?
02:48No, no, I'm not.
02:49How long have you been clean for?
02:50Because your mum doesn't think you are.
02:51I've been clean a couple of days.
02:52I've used a couple of...
02:54I don't know what.
02:55During the test, Andrew did cooperate, but he appeared drowsy.
02:58There's a surprise.
02:59During the test, Andrew was not capable of remaining focused.
03:01There's a surprise.
03:02His psychological condition was not acceptable for testing.
03:05Therefore, I'm afraid to tell you, Jez, the test was inconclusive.
03:08Whoa!
03:09I'm going to shock you now.
03:11I believe you didn't steal the money.
03:13I didn't.
03:14Can we please do our best to work with this guy and help this guy?
03:16Yeah, yeah.
03:17But you have to be totally honest with me, OK?
03:19That's the one understanding that we have to have right now.
03:22You need to be 100% honest with me.
03:24No lies.
03:25Do you want to help?
03:26Yes.
03:27Promise me.
03:28Yes.
03:30We saw Andrew, we saw his mum.
03:32You two come from a different school, and I like this.
03:35This is about a Mother's Day special.
03:37We want to help Alison, but you say she doesn't help herself.
03:39No.
03:40How?
03:41By...
03:42He'll phone her up and ask her for money for tabs and food or gas and electric
03:47and at first she'll say no and then she'll give him it
03:50and known for a fact what it is, but it's because it's that only son.
03:54Hard, Stacey, isn't it?
03:55Mother's Day here approaching, but it's difficult to put your foot down, right?
03:58It is when it's your son.
03:59Like, I totally understand where she's coming from
04:01because I've got my own son and it is hard, but she's got to put her foot down.
04:07Why are you two here today?
04:08He needs some sort of help.
04:10But I don't understand, and please don't get this the wrong way.
04:13You say you care about Alison, you haven't spoken to her for over two years.
04:16Why is that?
04:17Through Andrew.
04:18Like, we would tell Alison what Andrew was doing.
04:19Has he stolen from you?
04:20No.
04:21What are you going to say to the mum, Alison, today?
04:23Basically, to open her eyes and see what he's like, what he's using her for money.
04:28We're all on the same boat, we want to make him right, but we've got to be strong, right?
04:31Yeah.
04:32Let's get her out.
04:33I'm Alison on the Jeremy Kyle Show That Way.
04:34Thank you, Dan.
04:35Welcome back.
04:36They make a point, don't they?
04:37My eyes aren't open.
04:38They've always been open.
04:39Well, they haven't.
04:40You've wiped his backside for ages.
04:41No.
04:42For nearly ten years, I never saw him.
04:43And I wouldn't see him.
04:44And then after...
04:45Why didn't you see him, Alison?
04:46Because he brought him to me house.
04:47And I disowned him, yet again.
04:48And then after nearly ten years, I went down.
04:50I went down to Peterborough, he knew I was coming.
04:51And was he there?
04:52No, he wasn't.
04:53I walked down Peterborough, like an idiot looking for him.
04:55And then, that was in August.
04:56Yeah?
04:57His birthday was in October.
04:58No money.
04:59You were always wanting money.
05:00I was on the phone for money.
05:01He was on the phone for money.
05:02He was on the phone for money.
05:03And he was on the phone for money.
05:04So you're on the phone for money.
05:05So you've wiped his backside for ages.
05:06No, for nearly ten years, I never saw him.
05:07And I wouldn't see him.
05:08And then after...
05:09Why didn't you see him, Alison?
05:10And then after...
05:11Why didn't you see him, Alison?
05:12Because he brought him to me house.
05:13That was in the August. Yeah. His birthday was in the October.
05:17No money. He was always wanting money, always on the phone for money.
05:20He didn't phone for money. Do you think he had cream soft or not?
05:24I reported him missing to the police in January. I thought he was dead.
05:27I was convinced he wouldn't come knocking at me door. That was it.
05:29Do you lie him back? All the time?
05:31In her words, is there anybody else that would stand by him?
05:35He's my only Ben. Nobody wants to know him. What else am I supposed to do?
05:38I thought he was your only Ben, Alice.
05:39When he came home, he had changed.
05:41Right. How old was his dad when his dad died?
05:4436. Andrew's 35.
05:47Right, so are you going to be burying him next year?
05:49Well, what do they have nightmares about?
05:51Well, the plot's there for him.
05:52He needs help because of...
05:54I don't know this.
05:56Don't you start! I know you know it.
05:58Andrew, I'll get to you.
05:59He's lied to a lot of people.
06:01He's got a girlfriend which, don't take this the wrong way, amazes me
06:04because the troubles that he's gone through, the lies he must tell.
06:07This is Debs on the Jeremy Carr Show. Give a round of applause.
06:11I need you to be as honest as they've been. You had no idea, did you?
06:20No.
06:21What's life like with him?
06:23He's honest.
06:25Yeah, every day is about the next fix, where he gets it from.
06:28He takes the money off me, basically.
06:30So you're enabling him as well?
06:31Yeah.
06:32Why'd you stay with a man like that?
06:35Truthfully?
06:36Because when he's normal, he's lovely.
06:38But he isn't normal, is he?
06:39He's a heroin addict.
06:40But this is what I want here.
06:42I want my child back before I bury him like his dad at exactly the same age,
06:46probably exactly the same date.
06:47Words are good, actions are more important, and you have to be firm.
06:51This is not going to be nice.
06:53After this break, this is not going to be nice.
06:55I don't care that it's not going to be nice, but I've seen and done it too many times
07:00when the parents, the siblings, are like, oh, it'll be... No!
07:03I've given him that many times after the 10-year he was away and he came back,
07:07and I told him when he came home a couple of years ago, this is it.
07:10If it starts again...
07:11But if he does not do what I tell him to do after this break,
07:14and I'm not trying to shock anybody, he's going to die.
07:16Fact.
07:17Andrew's next.
07:18Don't go anywhere.
07:19Right back.
07:20Lost me.
07:21Who you got left?
07:22No-one.
07:23You're going to go down in the next few months, 36,
07:25see him and your dad, in the same gravism.
07:27Is that what you want us to see?
07:29No.
07:30Stand there and do the same again.
07:31And it's going to happen, Andrew.
07:33APPLAUSE
07:34Thank you very much for you.
07:35Welcome back.
07:36Margie, Stacey, Alice and Deb's all centred on your son, your nephew, your cousin, your boyfriend.
07:49This guy who, let's just repeat this, OK?
07:52Was given heroin by your brother who's no longer here at 12.
07:57Was injecting it from 17.
07:59Was selling it at 13.
08:01Watched his father die of it.
08:02Half of his life has been on heroin.
08:05More than half of his life.
08:06And it's easy, isn't it, for me to sit here and be quite firm and quite harsh.
08:10But unless somebody sticks a size 10 up his backside, this ain't going to get any better.
08:14Andrew is back on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
08:17APPLAUSE
08:23The first thing I've got to say is where will yous?
08:26I've seen you, Stacey, a few weeks back on the street.
08:30You didn't ask how I was, where I was living.
08:33You didn't say to you, can anyone come and see us and see how my flat was.
08:36I know exactly where you're living.
08:38I've seen the state of your flat on the video.
08:40You have?
08:41Yes, I have on the video.
08:42You sent us on Facebook.
08:43And also...
08:44Why did she not come to your flat?
08:45We had it straight last time.
08:47Why would she not come?
08:48Because she's ashamed of you and she doesn't want to be in a drugs den.
08:51Come on, Andrew, let's be honest about this, shall we?
08:53She didn't know I was back on the...
08:55That's the state of you, in your flat.
08:56Have a look.
08:57That's the state of you, in your flat.
08:58Have a look.
08:59That's the state of you, in your flat.
09:00Why would anybody want to go there?
09:01Come on.
09:02I got sent that video.
09:03I got sent it.
09:04In the other week.
09:05I got sent that and I had to look at that.
09:06And that's when I realised how bad it was.
09:08In the other week.
09:09Realised?
09:10It's been going on for 15 years.
09:11I didn't see him for 10 of it.
09:12I've speak to him on the floor.
09:13Well, you won't like what I'm going to say.
09:15Not good enough.
09:16I know.
09:1710 years you don't see your son because he's in an hour and he could have died.
09:19Now, people last time said, oi, oi, oi.
09:22People said that I was soft with you, that I bought too much about you.
09:26But I believe that you want to change.
09:28Don't have a go at these people.
09:29Go look in the mirror, mate.
09:31This is you.
09:32I've got a problem.
09:33What?
09:34I've got a problem.
09:35I've got a problem.
09:36I'm trying to help yourself.
09:37How are you going to help yourself?
09:38How?
09:39You don't tell me anything.
09:40You hate everything from us.
09:41I find out of other people.
09:43We had to go and tell you, ma'am.
09:45I'm gobsmacked.
09:46We had to go and tell you, ma'am.
09:47That's why we...
09:48Today.
09:49Today, look at me.
09:50Sit back and look at me.
09:51I'll change your life on one condition.
09:53Complete honesty.
09:54You've stolen from all of them, haven't you?
09:55Yes.
09:56You've lied to all of them.
09:57Yes.
09:58You gave pitiful excuses, but you didn't have the greatest star when her brother, your
10:03dad, gave you her in at 12.
10:05Yes.
10:06And then you watched your dad die.
10:07And she gave us cannabis to babysit her children, if you remember.
10:10How long ago, Andrew?
10:11When I was 12, I used to knock off school.
10:15I used to come and sit and get stoned in your house.
10:17And how long ago was that?
10:19Doesn't really matter what it was.
10:21I don't think my mother ever invited me from school to her house and gave me a joint.
10:25God rest her soul.
10:26I'm being honest, I'm not having a go, right?
10:30But none of that, none of that is a deflection.
10:34This is you.
10:35You put that stuff in your body.
10:36You lie, you cheat, you do whatever.
10:38You lie to your girlfriend.
10:39Yes.
10:40Look at her.
10:41She's lovely.
10:42Best thing that's ever happened to you.
10:44You're going to lose her.
10:45This is it with me.
10:47How many chances?
10:48You've lost me.
10:49Who have you got left?
10:50No one.
10:51You're going to go down in the next few months.
10:5336, same as your dad, in the same gravism.
10:57Is that what you want us to see?
10:58No.
10:59Stand out and do the same again.
11:01Well, it's going to happen, Andrew.
11:02I've just buried your girlfriend.
11:03I know.
11:04I've just buried your girlfriend.
11:05I know.
11:06Andrew, you need to sort yourself out.
11:09You need to sort yourself out.
11:11Because you say that I'm the best thing that's ever happened here.
11:14You haven't shown that.
11:15So, after the last show, you've chatted to Graham.
11:17What about?
11:18About trying to get a bit of help in what he'd be able to do for us.
11:24What do you want?
11:26I want to come off the heroin.
11:28How are you going to go through the hell of coming off heroin?
11:30I've done it once before.
11:32Not strong enough, are you?
11:33I've done it once.
11:34I'm talking now.
11:35How difficult would that be?
11:36Very, very hard.
11:37Really?
11:38Do you think you just phone up?
11:39Your mum, she'll give you a few quid.
11:40You get some.
11:41You'll score.
11:42You'll be on the methadone.
11:43You'll be getting help.
11:44You'll just phone up her.
11:45You'll do something, won't you?
11:46You'll lie.
11:47You'll cheat.
11:48You'll do whatever.
11:49Convince me.
11:50Convince me.
11:51I don't know what to say apart from that.
11:52I need help.
11:53I've kept myself clean before.
11:55And it was only that.
11:57Watch.
12:02This is what you disclosed to me after the show.
12:04That you're on 70 pounds worth of heroin daily.
12:08Yep.
12:09You're smoking spice daily.
12:11You're taking benzodiazepines daily.
12:13Mm-hmm.
12:14You're on a methadone program.
12:15Okay.
12:16What was distressing me at that time is that you're injecting the heroin.
12:21All of your veins have collapsed except for the one in your groin.
12:24Mm-hmm.
12:25And your physical health is not that brilliant.
12:28When I lost me dad, it was just like...
12:33I didn't know what to do.
12:36Okay.
12:37And my life's just been on a rocky road since then.
12:40Every time my dad was out of jail, I was with him.
12:43He was my world.
12:45So when he died, it felt like I had nobody.
12:50How old was he when he died?
12:5236.
12:53Okay.
12:54Here's the question.
12:55How old are you?
12:5735.
12:58And I'm worried.
12:59Very, very worried that that could be me in a few more months.
13:04If I don't sort myself out.
13:07I'm going to work long and hard to find the best intervention for you.
13:14But you have to have that commitment towards whatever intervention program I can find for you.
13:22Indeed.
13:23And all these things across your head, what's that?
13:25There where I've been high and I've fell off a settee and I've...
13:29Oh, so you didn't accidentally bang your head like at all?
13:32Did you not know how severe it was?
13:33No.
13:34Right, listen to me.
13:36You are on death row.
13:38And if you think I'm exaggerating that, you're not.
13:40Okay.
13:41So, you think you've got what it takes, yeah?
13:44Yeah.
13:45Who's that?
13:52My dad and me.
13:55Your dad killed himself by taking heroin, right?
13:58Is that what you want to do?
14:00I started this a long time ago and I remember saying to somebody you're going to die
14:04and then they told me about three or months later that this person had died
14:07and I didn't really believe it.
14:09You will go the same way.
14:10But you might not.
14:14I don't know what we're doing when they do this.
14:21I'm allowed to do this.
14:23Andrew, Andrew, listen to me.
14:26It is hard.
14:27Listen to me.
14:28This will be the most horrible, hard, difficult time of your life.
14:35This is an unbelievable offer.
14:37This is 12 weeks.
14:39Residential.
14:40No contact with anybody.
14:42Perry Clayman Project London.
14:43Not just the medical detox, but then afterwards working, dealing with all the reasons.
14:49But you will be climbing the walls and this will be hell for a period of time when that detox happens.
14:56I actually genuinely believe that you not only deserve this but will do something about it.
15:01But if you don't, mate, you will die.
15:03Do it for your dad.
15:04Do it for your mum.
15:05Do it for your mum.
15:06Do you want it?
15:07Do you want it?
15:08Yes, I want it.
15:09Come with me, all of you.
15:10Come here.
15:11All these people who can't open the curtains.
15:23Andrew, I promise you I spent my entire life saying this, right?
15:27Never again will you get this opportunity.
15:29Do you understand this?
15:30Yes.
15:31I'm going to be doing this, Andrew, anymore.
15:34Oh, my God.
15:35And here is the man who's done more.
15:37So much for this show.
15:38Perry Clayman.
15:39Good to see you, buddy.
15:40How are you?
15:41Nice to see you.
15:42Nice to see you.
15:44Andrew Perry Clayman.
15:45Perry Clayman, Andrew.
15:46Nice to meet you.
15:47Right, we're not messing around.
15:48This is mum.
15:49Now, listen.
15:50Don't worry.
15:51Come in, guys.
15:52Come in, come in.
15:53Perry, tell him.
15:5412 weeks residential treatment at the Perry Clayman Project in London, where we'll detox
16:00you from all the substances that you're using, but obviously give you the therapy and the
16:05counselling to keep you staying stocked.
16:08And this is a one-time opportunity.
16:11You look terrified.
16:12I can't know how hard it's going to be.
16:14What do you want, death or that?
16:16I want this.
16:17They told me you won't do this.
16:18Don't let me down, because my neck's on the line this time.
16:21This man does an amazing amount.
16:22I don't have to give this to everybody.
16:24We can only, right?
16:25Do you want to be dead at 36 like your dad?
16:27I want.
16:28You sure?
16:29Yes.
16:30Because these people know.
16:31This is the best, best chance.
16:34This is your destiny in that car.
16:36You mess this up, there's nothing I can do.
16:37They'll be burying you.
16:38If you take it and you listen to this man and you work with everybody, it will be amazing.
16:42Say goodbye.
16:43You're going to rehab.
16:44I love you.
16:46I love you.
16:47I love you.
16:48I love you.
16:49I love you.
16:50You all right?
16:51Say goodbye to your mum.
16:52It's Mother's Day.
16:53You all right?
16:54You all right?
16:55You all right?
16:56Thanks, Perry.
16:57This is it.
16:58I love you, but I can't do it anymore.
17:00Got it?
17:01You do it.
17:02He's Andrew.
17:03I will.
17:04Thank you for coming, girl.
17:05I'm getting screws.
17:07Big one.
17:09Andrew, you can do it.
17:10Listen.
17:11I know it's scary, but this is the best you will ever get.
17:13Do you know the ghosts you have?
17:14Come out the other side for me.
17:15Get in the car.
17:16Good luck.
17:17Thanks, Keithy.
17:18Go.
17:19Thank you, Perry.
17:20Good luck.
17:21Perhaps a weird way to celebrate Mother's Day, and I know it's difficult, but I promise
17:32you we will do everything.
17:33I think you'll be all right, but you have to be what I said, Steph, and Karen will work
17:37with you.
17:38This is it.
17:39You've got to be strong.
17:40Any phone calls?
17:41No.
17:42Because that won't help him.
17:43That'll help him.
17:44You know?
17:45Not taking that stuff, but it's going to be difficult.
17:47All right?
17:48We'll leave you with the girls.
17:49Give yourselves a round of applause.
17:50Thank you, guys.
17:51Thank you very much indeed.
17:56Good luck to them.
17:57Now, my next guests this morning have been through an incredibly difficult time.
18:01In just seven years, this lady has lost three of her daughters in separate tragic incidents,
18:06but despite this heartbreaking tragedy, this lady has shown unbelievable and selfless strength,
18:11and those closest to her wanted to surprise her.
18:14Sam, there aren't many people that make me cry, but you are an amazing lady.
18:20Have a look at this.
18:22Sam has been through every parent's worst nightmare, not only once, but three times.
18:26She's had to be strong for her grandchildren, and nobody deserves a treat more than they do.
18:30I was Emily, Amy, and Abby's head teacher through Park Primary School.
18:35Sam, Jeff, and the family have been through so much grief.
18:39But Sam has been unbelievably strong, and has just taken over and been a real mother to Chantelle and Jensen.
18:45Through her own grief, she's gone on with the job of bringing them up in a positive way,
18:49keeping their mother's memory alive to them every day.
18:52It's been so hard for her. If anyone deserves something for herself, it's Sam, and it would give all the family a little bit of happiness.
19:01I'm one of Amy's best friends from school, and I've known Sam for many years, and what she's doing for them kids is absolutely brilliant.
19:08She's such an inspiration, and they're so lucky they got her. Love you, Sam.
19:13No one deserves a treat more than Sam's nature.
19:18Sam deserves a treat every day, though a Mother's Day treat would be an especially fitting and poignant one.
19:23She experienced every mother's worst nightmare when she lost three of her own children, two of whom were mothers themselves.
19:28Though devastated and distraught, Sam repeatedly rose to the occasion.
19:33Steadfast and faltering, she toils daily to ensure that her remaining grandchildren and son have the best chance possible to live a loving, healthy and happy life.
19:42She continually ensures that the memory of her later children is kept alive and fresh in their minds.
19:47She personifies strong, and is an inspiration to all her family and friends, and I can think of no one more deserving of a Mother's Day treat than Sam.
19:55Ladies and gentlemen...
19:59APPLAUSE
20:01Ladies and gentlemen, Sam, a best friend, Bevan, a son, Nathan, on The Jeremy Kyle Show. Give him a round of applause.
20:08CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
20:12Um, listen, I've done this a long time, read this story this morning.
20:17I know there's been some publicity on this.
20:19I cannot imagine, as a parent, to lose one child, but to go through that three times, I mean,
20:24I absolutely salute you. You bring up your grandchildren.
20:27Nathan, I know her son will talk to you in a sec, but take me through this, sweetheart, if you can.
20:32I lost Emily eight years ago.
20:35Um, she just turned 15, she had.
20:39Um, Blakey was, like, drug-related, but not by your hands.
20:44It was a friend's party, wasn't it?
20:46Yeah.
20:47How did you recover from losing a child? Did you think that you would ever be able to carry on at that point?
20:51Not at first, I didn't know.
20:54Lady didn't think, you know, at first.
20:56Like, you know, but as the years get on then...
20:59Like, you know, well...
21:01Um, Blake being strong and everything.
21:03And my other daughters and my son as well.
21:05In 2012, Amy... How old was Amy?
21:0821.
21:09How did she die?
21:10Um, she had ill health from the age of 18 months.
21:15She had, um, papillomas, warts on her throat.
21:20She had one lung from the age of 11.
21:23She died.
21:24And she was...
21:26Infections all the time, in and out.
21:28But then she had two massive strokes then.
21:31And...
21:32She was in a coma.
21:34And then they found out that she had cancer in her bowel and in her liver.
21:40Yeah.
21:41Her son, Jensen, was 11 months at the time when his mother died.
21:44Yeah.
21:45This lady took this kid on, who today is six.
21:48He's lush.
21:49He is.
21:50But that wasn't it?
21:51No.
21:52Your third child?
21:53Yeah.
21:5418 months ago, um, Arby died in a house fire.
22:00She did.
22:01Smoking elation, actually.
22:02Erm, yeah, but it's smoking elation then it was.
22:06I mean, not the kinder.
22:07She had a daughter, Chantel.
22:08Chantel.
22:09She's fine now.
22:10Nathan, can I bring you in here?
22:11What do you make of your mum?
22:12Well, that's she unbelievable.
22:14She had to be...
22:16So good with the kids.
22:18She was...
22:19She's excellent, like...
22:21You bring these kids up?
22:22Yeah.
22:23There are people watching this, myself included, actually, who are thinking,
22:27the injustice that you would get from losing one kid would be enough to send you nuts.
22:31Two, three.
22:32Yeah.
22:33How do you turn that...
22:35I don't know.
22:36How do you...
22:37You want to see her?
22:38She gets up every morning, gets these kids dressed, ready for school.
22:42Erm, the love she's got for them, the love they've got for her, and it's just...
22:47They keep her going.
22:48They are a reason for living now.
22:50It's not one day goes by that the girls are not in her head every single day.
22:53She has seven days.
22:54Talk about them every day.
22:55You had no idea about this this morning, did you?
22:57I don't know.
22:58It was...
22:59You were just coming to watch the Jeremy Kyle show.
23:00She was having a day out.
23:03Well, we wanted to salute you for Mother's Day, because I just...
23:06Yeah.
23:07Genuinely, I think you are unbelievable.
23:09Erm, and...
23:15We wanted to bring the kids, because what you've done for these children...
23:18And, you know, we do this show every single day.
23:20There are many people in your position who couldn't have coped,
23:23and maybe those kids would have gone in care.
23:25Six-year-old Jensen, four-year-old Chantel on the Jeremy Kyle show.
23:27Give them a round of applause.
23:28APPLAUSE
23:29Oh, look at this.
23:30Oh, look at this.
23:32We have some hampers for you for Mother's Day.
23:35Oh, thank you very much.
23:36Because you deserve that.
23:38But then, Jensen, it's not really fair she gets presents, is it?
23:41Oh, it's not really fair.
23:42It's not really fair, Chantel, is it?
23:44Do you want some presents?
23:45Right, get the kids presents out for me, please.
23:47Get some presents out.
23:48Look at this.
23:49Look, look, look, look, look.
23:50In the front, there we go.
23:51Yeah, in the front, in the front, in the front, in the front.
23:53Is that cool?
23:54See, that's good.
23:55What'd you say?
23:56Thank you very much.
23:57Wow.
23:58Thank you very much.
24:00Wow.
24:01Thank you very much, Dave.
24:02Look at this.
24:03What'd you say?
24:04Thank you very much, Dave.
24:05Look at this.
24:06Just a little bit.
24:07See you.
24:08It's not really fair, Chantel, is it?
24:10Do you want some presents?
24:11Right, get the kids presents out for me, please.
24:13Get some presents out.
24:14Look at this.
24:15In the front, there we go.
24:16In the front, in the front, in the front, in the front.
24:18Is that cool?
24:19See, that's good.
24:20What'd you say?
24:21Wow.
24:22Thank you very much, Dave.
24:23Jensen, what do you make of your Nan?
24:24How cool's your Nan?
24:25Jensen, how cool is your nan?
24:27What football team do you support?
24:30What football team do you support?
24:32Cardiff City?
24:33No.
24:34What, who then?
24:35You don't know, do you?
24:37Is that nice?
24:39Is your nan nice, lady?
24:42I came in this morning, right, completely, just ignore me.
24:46I came in this morning and I made a vow.
24:49Look at me.
24:50I wanted to do something really special.
24:51This would probably make me cry.
24:52I lost my mum a year ago and people should appreciate their mothers every single day.
24:57We're going to fly you to Tenerife, the four of you.
25:02We're going to send you...
25:03You and Nathan and the kids, we're going to send you to a private villa with a pool in Tenerife,
25:09a given week that suits you this year.
25:11We've got you free flights courtesy of Eden Travel in Cheshire.
25:14They're going to do the whole thing for you.
25:15It's going to be amazing because what you do is just unbelievable.
25:20And everybody should salute this woman.
25:22Give her a round of applause.
25:23It'll be nice.
25:24It'll be alright.
25:25It'll be alright.
25:26It'll be alright.
25:27You've got some sun.
25:28You've got some sun.
25:29Good night.
25:29I can't be very loud.
25:30Oh, my God.
25:32It's alright.
25:33It's alright.
25:33Thank you, thank you.
25:35Really good to meet you.
25:36Give him a round of applause.
25:37Alright?
25:41Listen, a massive round of applause for this amazing lady and more after the break.
25:44Give her a round of applause.
25:46Here to find out if Keely is your sister.
25:49You said, I grew up as an only child and this would mean the world.
25:52Yeah.
25:53You sadly lost your mother.
25:54When was that?
25:55At the age of 16.
25:56Two years ago now.
25:58On Mother's Day?
25:59Yeah.
25:59The DNA test results show that Keely and Jadine.
26:10Are DNA doubts ruining your relationship as an ex refusing to accept paternity?
26:16If you're 18 or over and you'd like to be considered for the show, email talk at itd.com along with your number.
26:21Text talk plus your name to 63334.
26:24Text plus 25 pence plus one standard rate message.
26:27Or you can call my team today.
26:28It's 09011.
26:29It's 123456.
26:31Calls cost 25 pence plus network access charge.
26:42Thank you all very much, indeed.
26:43Welcome back to a very special Mother's Day show.
26:45Now, my next guests today are potentially half-sisters Keely and Jadine.
26:48Now, sadly, two years ago on Mother's Day, Jadine's mum passed away.
26:52Now, since then, she's been determined to find out more about her extended family.
26:55Today, she's here with my next guest, Keely, to find out, with DNA,
26:58if indeed they are half-sisters.
27:00Massive, massive moment.
27:02Keely's on the Jeremy Carr show that way.
27:03Give her a round of applause.
27:04This is an extraordinary story, but I just, I just, I mean, you read it out like that and you go,
27:16I literally bumped into what could potentially be my half-sister Jadine a week ago,
27:20but it goes back further than that.
27:22And can I just say now, because I think it's important, you have different mothers.
27:26Yeah, we do.
27:26She has her own story to tell about that, but there is a chance that you could indeed share the same father.
27:32Who is still alive?
27:33Yeah, he is still alive.
27:34Tell us how, when, not just the supermarket, go back.
27:37How did you find out about her?
27:39Well, there was not really much I can say apart from that.
27:42She messaged me in 2016, said she'd potentially come with my sister if a year went by.
27:48Out of the blue, you had no idea.
27:49How did you deal with that?
27:50I talked to her with my siblings and stuff, and then amazingly, just last week,
27:53I bumped into Asda and it was like...
27:55You'd never met her?
27:56Never had.
27:56So how do you know when you bumped into her in Asda or any other leading supermarket, by the way?
27:59I just had these, like, butterflies in my stomach where I felt like it was instant attraction to lead towards her,
28:05and I'd just seen her and everyone slowed down around me.
28:07It was like something out of a love story, but for siblings, basically.
28:12So the great thing about this story, potentially, is the two of you have had very little idea before 2016.
28:20There's wider family to consider.
28:22There is, and I'm going to have to keep searching, aren't I?
28:25But this is the first step.
28:28Excited? Nervous? What?
28:29Apprehensive.
28:30You seem quite cool.
28:31Apprehensive, because I just feel like she is, for some weird reason.
28:35You've got that. That's something funny, isn't it?
28:37Isn't it like I do this show and people go, I've got definitive proof, and then a lot of them come along and they go,
28:40it's just a gut instinct.
28:41And gut instinct can, in many cases, turn out to be right.
28:45But you just have a feeling that this girl...
28:46I just had a feeling.
28:47Would you be delighted?
28:48I would be delighted for all of us.
28:50I have to say, when you read about Jadine's story, she's been through a hell of a lot,
28:54and certainly for her at this time of year, this would be a major, major flip, wouldn't it?
28:58Let's get her out. Lovely girl, by the way.
29:00Jadine's on The Jeremy Carr Show. Thank you.
29:02APPLAUSE
29:03Jadine, welcome to the show. Thank you so much.
29:20I'm here to find out if Keely is your sister.
29:23You said, I grew up as an only child, and this would mean the world.
29:25Yeah. I grew up knowing that I had sisters on my mum's side, but they weren't a part of my life,
29:33so I was still classed as an only child.
29:36I know from what they've told me about you that you're not one of those people who feel sorry for themselves,
29:40but you have had quite a hard upbringing. You were put into care at eight?
29:43Yeah.
29:45For obviously reasons.
29:46Your mum was ill, wasn't she?
29:47Yeah. She was quite ill, and she just sort of deteriorated for the years.
29:52You sadly lost your mother. When was that?
29:55At the age of 16, two years ago now.
29:58On Mother's Day?
29:59Yeah.
30:00So, we've got a lot to catch up on, haven't we, clearly?
30:03What would having a family, having not, in effect, had one, having lost the only person who was a constant in your life,
30:13so sadly, two years ago on Mother's Day, what would having a wider family mean?
30:17Well, it'd mean everything, because family does mean a lot to me,
30:21and having family with me and knowing that I've got more family out there,
30:26it just means that I've got more support, and it just means there's more of me out there.
30:33Listen, I hope so for you, but I can only read it out. You all right?
30:37Oh, my God. You all right?
30:39Give me a hand. It's all right.
30:41The DNA test results show that Keely and Jadine...
30:45..happy Mother's Day, you half-sisties.
30:47CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
30:49Oh, my God.
31:10Thank God.
31:14Spare part.
31:15LAUGHTER
31:16Oh, don't leave us hanging, Jad.
31:25Well done. All right, OK.
31:28Listen, listen, listen.
31:29Oh...
31:30Good news.
31:31Howdy.
31:32I feel so pleased for you. I know you've had a hard time.
31:34We're going to support you, we're going to help you, we're going to do what we can,
31:36but I'm really pleased that you managed to get some family, especially at this time of year.
31:40Oi, you. Oi.
31:43Look after your new half-sister, because she needs...
31:44Oh, we all do, we all do.
31:46..sister family. Really nice to meet you.
31:47Good out there. Give them a round of applause.
31:49Lovely, guys. Well done.
31:54Good luck to those two.
31:55Now, my next guests are here after living every parent's worst nightmare.
31:58At just 20 weeks pregnant, this brave mother was told the baby she was carrying
32:01had a heart defect and only a 50-50 chance of survival.
32:05Now, miraculously, he pulled through,
32:06and those around her want to celebrate the sheer strength
32:09and love this lady's show's day in, day out.
32:12How are you, Michelle?
32:12Give her a round of applause, those young men.
32:15Have a look at this for you.
32:17What?
32:20Hi, Michelle.
32:21Just want to say how much I love you
32:22and how well you've cooked with Reggie's condition.
32:26You're a fantastic mother to Reggie and Caitlin.
32:29You're an inspiration.
32:30You're doing absolutely brilliant.
32:32You keep doing what you're doing.
32:34You're fantastic.
32:35I love you loads.
32:39Hi, Mum.
32:39We just want to say how fab you are
32:41and how much we love you
32:42and we're really proud of you
32:43and we love you so, so, so much.
32:49Michelle and Lou, come this way, guys.
32:51You're all right, darling.
32:52You're surprised today, mate.
32:54I'm sorry.
32:58It is Mother's Day.
32:59This is a special show
33:00and I just want to ask you,
33:02because I've watched your face.
33:03I want to start with you.
33:04What do you make of this lady
33:05and everything she's had to deal with?
33:08Inspiration.
33:10Strong.
33:11I don't think she realises
33:12how strong she is sometimes.
33:13You had to try so long to conceive.
33:17You almost gave up hope,
33:18you told my team,
33:19of ever having Reggie
33:20and everything was going smoothly
33:22to that 20-week scan.
33:23What happened?
33:26Just a normal 20-week scan.
33:28I was getting measurements
33:29and she thought everything was fine.
33:30She asked her supervisor
33:32to come in and double-check
33:33she'd done everything correct
33:34and that's when he was
33:36in the same spot on my tummy.
33:38It felt like an hour
33:39but it was probably
33:40only about 10 minutes
33:41and then he said,
33:41I just need to go
33:42and get my supervisor
33:43and then another 10 minutes
33:47I'd say it was just complete silence
33:49with that.
33:49I just broke down.
33:50I knew something was wrong.
33:52I thought he'd passed away.
33:54Worst moment ever?
33:55Yeah.
33:56Yeah.
33:56Yeah.
33:57And you can't explain the feeling,
34:00can you?
34:00We'd waited so long.
34:02We knew he was a boy.
34:03What was the diagnosis, sweetheart?
34:05It was hyperplastic left heart syndrome.
34:07He's got no left side of the heart.
34:10It just didn't grow.
34:12What does that mean
34:12in layman's terms?
34:14The left side of the heart
34:15is the side that does everything,
34:18more or less.
34:19It's the most important side.
34:20He was only a few days old
34:21with that first operation.
34:22Yeah.
34:23He was meant to have his first operation
34:24at five days old.
34:25He was doing quite well
34:26but then the third day
34:28he deteriorated quite badly.
34:30How is he today?
34:32What's the situation with him now?
34:36Health-wise,
34:37the best he can be at the minute.
34:39Heart-wise.
34:40Do you worry every minute?
34:42Every minute.
34:43Yeah.
34:43You say she's an absolute
34:45tower of strength.
34:46This woman.
34:47I know you've got your daughter,
34:48Kaylin.
34:48He thinks you're incredible.
34:49He thinks that this is about,
34:51quite rightly,
34:51about an amazing mother.
34:54You say,
34:55I'm in awe, really,
34:56of how she keeps going.
34:58Yeah, people say,
35:00people say to us both
35:01we're strong,
35:02I don't know how you get through it,
35:03I don't know how you do it
35:04but we've got no choice.
35:06You've got two.
35:07Kaylin as well,
35:08your daughter,
35:08a massive, massive...
35:10Kaylin, she's my rock,
35:10she's my best friend.
35:12I think she stayed strong for me
35:13because she knew
35:14how I was.
35:18She's so...
35:19Chip off the old block,
35:20isn't she?
35:21Yeah, she's a tough one as well.
35:22She's amazing.
35:23She's amazing.
35:24She really...
35:25Reggie dotes on her.
35:26He calls her nin-nin.
35:26How old is Reggie now?
35:28He's 17 months.
35:29Is that my Reggie?
35:31You thought they both weren't here
35:32but Kaylin and Reggie are.
35:33Give them a round of applause.
35:42He's cool.
35:44Hello, darling.
35:45Oh, little man.
35:47Hello.
35:48Hello, mate.
35:50You liked me.
35:51Say hiya.
35:52Hiya.
35:53Come on, it's Dad.
35:54Kaylin, really nice.
35:55He's Dad's boy.
35:56Is he?
35:57Yeah.
35:58You've got him supporting the right team?
35:59Arsenal.
36:00Learning.
36:01What team?
36:02Arsenal.
36:02Get off the stage, both of you.
36:04Kaylin, welcome to the show.
36:07You told my team it's been upsetting
36:09but your mum
36:09and Lee were always
36:11really honest with you
36:12and that was helpful.
36:14She says you've been an absolute rock.
36:16She has.
36:17Hello, mate.
36:18Say hiya.
36:19Are you going to wave?
36:20Say hiya.
36:20Wave to everybody.
36:21Hiya.
36:22Say hi.
36:22You are so cute.
36:24He's adorable, aren't you?
36:26Do you want the microphone?
36:27Oh, look.
36:28Go on, destroy it.
36:29I love it when kids destroy things.
36:30Do you want it?
36:30She'll take this out.
36:31Because it costs so much money.
36:32Break it.
36:32Go on, I want to see how you say it.
36:33Say hello.
36:34Say hello.
36:35Say hello.
36:36Say hiya.
36:36Hiya.
36:37So the thing was
36:38what Lee was really keen to do
36:40and I love this
36:41was that he wanted to say
36:42that you're an amazing mother
36:43and this incredible rock
36:45and that without you
36:45this whole thing
36:47would have fallen apart
36:48but he also wanted to say to you
36:49that you're incredible
36:51and the way you've supported your mother
36:53and he knows
36:54that the two of you
36:55probably don't get
36:56as much quality time
36:57together as possible.
36:59We went to the cinema
37:00not yesterday,
37:00the day before
37:01for the first time in over a year
37:02just me and you
37:03didn't play.
37:04Well, I've got loads sorted for you two
37:06because it's Mother's Day.
37:08First up,
37:09beautiful,
37:10spa day for both of you
37:11courtesy of Groupon.
37:12Any location locally of your choice.
37:13Would that be nice?
37:14Yeah.
37:15We're also going to send you to
37:16you don't have to clap
37:17I've got loads to give out.
37:18We're also going to send you to London
37:19we're going to send you
37:20for a break in London.
37:21Hotel,
37:22Star Hotel
37:22it's an ultra modern hotel
37:23in the centre of London
37:24for the two of you.
37:26Just to include this
37:27because I know
37:27watch her face.
37:29A four hour makeup masterclass
37:31for you
37:31at the London Makeup School
37:32in Shoreditch.
37:33We have a laminated gift certificate
37:35we'll give you as well.
37:36That's where it is.
37:37That's fantastic.
37:38We're going to do that for you.
37:39Because you're desperately
37:40into that aren't you?
37:40Oh, she loves makeup
37:41because she's going
37:42So a four hour makeup course
37:44in London
37:44and then I just thought
37:45what else could we do?
37:45So I'm going to send you
37:46the O2 to see Harry Styles.
37:47Is that all right?
37:49I'll do that.
37:51And then
37:51have we got any presents
37:52by the way?
37:53We got some presents
37:53I got some presents
37:54from Reggie
37:55for Reggie
37:55and I've also got something
37:56special for you.
37:57They're coming on.
37:58I brought you out.
38:00That's it.
38:04And that
38:05that
38:06that's courtesy
38:09of these people
38:10and this is the most
38:10I'm not going to undo it
38:11but this is an amazing
38:12250 quid makeup thing
38:14for you to take.
38:15Is that all right?
38:16Reggie, I don't know.
38:17Ball?
38:19Good boy.
38:20Good boy.
38:21It's all yours, Reggie.
38:22Chase, Reggie.
38:23It's all yours.
38:24You're a lovely family.
38:25I have to say this
38:26and I know
38:27look, we do this every day
38:29and I get really agitated
38:30with people who seem to moan
38:31when they've got nothing
38:31to moan about
38:32and then I meet people like you
38:33who are dealt
38:34oh, he's so cute.
38:36Reggie, come on, kick it.
38:37You're going to kick it?
38:38Who does he support?
38:40Arsenal.
38:40Oh, good.
38:41She won't be able to score
38:41at the girl then.
38:42Come on.
38:44You're going to kick it?
38:46Good boy.
38:48Anyway, listen
38:49have a wonderful time
38:50in London at the spa
38:51and enjoy the makeup course
38:52and thank you
38:53for sharing the Mother's Day.
38:55Right, that's it.
38:56We can do that.
38:57We're going to go to
38:57let's have a look at this.
38:58No, I'll do it.
38:59Come here.
39:00Come here, come here, come here.
39:00Can I get this out?
39:01Right, we're going to go to a break.
39:02Back in a minute.
39:03Don't go anywhere.
39:04It is a Mother's Day special.
39:05Yes, what Emmanuel did
39:06was incredible
39:07and I think what was steeped
39:09in him by his mother
39:10was equally incredible.
39:11If you look in that direction
39:13this guy saved your life.
39:14Emmanuel and Samantha
39:15on The Jeremy Kyle Show
39:16go that way.
39:28Thank you very much.
39:28Welcome back to this
39:29Mother's Day special.
39:30Now, today I've been talking
39:31to some amazing mums
39:32and hearing their incredible stories.
39:34My next guest, Ben,
39:35has been searching
39:36for one such mum
39:37and her son
39:38who he says quite clearly
39:39saved his life.
39:41You see, Ben was a heroin addict
39:42sleeping rough
39:42when he first came into contact
39:44with Samantha
39:44and seven-year-old Emmanuel.
39:46Now, seeing Ben struggling,
39:48young Emmanuel
39:49turned out his pockets
39:50and gave him every bit
39:51of change that he had.
39:52Blown away by this kid's kindness,
39:54Ben at that moment
39:55said,
39:55I'm going to turn my life around
39:56and now, two years on,
39:58this guy is clean of drugs,
39:59he's in work
40:00and he is desperate to say
40:02a big thank you
40:03to a mother
40:04and a son
40:05who he says
40:05absolutely changed his life.
40:07It's a great story.
40:08Ben is on The Jeremy Kyle Show
40:09that way.
40:12It's a great story.
40:16It's a great story, isn't it?
40:18It's amazing.
40:20I spend my entire life
40:22on this show
40:23with people who think
40:24and look like
40:25they can't do anything
40:26to improve their lives.
40:28This is an incredible story.
40:30Just tell everybody
40:31what happened,
40:31how bad it was,
40:32where you were at.
40:33Well, I got to my rock bottom.
40:35I'd been a heroin addict
40:36from the ages,
40:37well, a drug addict
40:38from the age of 12.
40:40Got addicted to heroin
40:41from the age of 16.
40:42My rock bottom
40:43was homelessness,
40:44street begging.
40:45You said that at that moment
40:46you genuinely thought
40:48you were going to die.
40:49I wanted to die.
40:51I didn't want to wake up.
40:52Every morning I'd wake up
40:53and I thought,
40:53not again,
40:54I've got to go for all this again.
40:56I thought you said
40:57that they were judging me.
40:58Everybody that walked past me
40:59looked at me as a tramp
41:00and reinforced in my mind
41:02that I was nothing
41:03and I'd never get anywhere.
41:04And then this one particular day,
41:05and this is,
41:06he came to us with this.
41:07I think it's amazing.
41:08Tell the story
41:08of what happened
41:09that particular day.
41:10Well, I was sat in the doorway
41:11begging
41:12and then this little boy
41:15come up to me.
41:16I guess he was about
41:17eight or 11
41:18and he'd give me some water.
41:20He said,
41:20here, mate,
41:20you need to give me some water.
41:22And I thought that was lovely
41:22and he's gone away
41:23and I don't know what he's done.
41:25I think he's gone into the shop
41:26and he's come back out
41:28and he's looking at me
41:28for a little while
41:29and I thought,
41:30he's looking at me now
41:30thinking I'm a tramp.
41:31That's what my first thought was.
41:33Then he's come back over
41:34and he's put his hand
41:34in his pocket
41:35and he's pulled out
41:36all the change in his pocket,
41:38I do believe,
41:38of roughly £2.50
41:39and it just done me then.
41:41It just broke my heart.
41:41That's you when you were on heroin.
41:43Look at the eyes.
41:43Look at the demeanour.
41:44Yeah.
41:45Do you recognise that man?
41:46That's a face full of fear,
41:47that is, yeah.
41:48And he changed everything
41:49in your life at that moment?
41:51Yeah.
41:52It was then I just decided
41:53I did need help.
41:54I just wanted help.
41:54I just couldn't do this life anymore.
41:56It just choked me up.
41:57I did start feeling sorry
41:59for myself, finally.
42:00You said you checked into rehab.
42:02You got clean.
42:03Yeah.
42:03And all that you could think about
42:04was this little boy
42:05and the mother
42:06and that's the point to this show.
42:07It's a Mother's Day special.
42:08What an incredible job she'd done
42:10to teach a kid such morality.
42:13Yeah.
42:14Because that was genuine, you know.
42:15Did they save your life?
42:17Yes, I'd say so.
42:18You mean that, don't you?
42:19A big part of it.
42:19Yeah, absolutely.
42:21A month ago,
42:22Ben put a post on
42:23Does FB Mean Facebook?
42:25Mm.
42:25It went viral.
42:27But she had no hope
42:28of being reunited.
42:31And then Sam got in touch.
42:32Yeah.
42:33I deleted the video.
42:34Begging on the streets of Banbury,
42:35sitting in a doorway,
42:36off my face on her
42:37and exactly two years ago
42:38in between Tesco's
42:39and the chip shop
42:39on Middleton Road,
42:41something happened to me
42:41that would literally
42:42change my life forever.
42:44A young boy about 11 years of age
42:45came up to me.
42:46It was raining.
42:46I was under a sleeping bag.
42:47He gave me a bottle of water
42:48and literally emptied his pockets for me
42:50and gave me everything he had.
42:52Something happened at that moment.
42:53I remember thinking,
42:54if this young lad
42:55felt obviously sorry for me,
42:56then why don't I feel sorry for myself?
42:58I got straight up
42:59and I walked into a drop-in centre
43:00called Turning Point,
43:01which is quite funny
43:02because it literally was my Turning Point.
43:04I was sent to rehab
43:05where I spent nine months in treatment,
43:07but that wasn't enough.
43:08I wanted more.
43:09I wanted to somehow give back
43:10the kindness that the young boy had showed me.
43:12I started volunteering,
43:13going back to college
43:14and currently receiving training
43:16to become a wellness coach.
43:17A far cry from homelessness,
43:19heroin and alcohol.
43:20I'm just two years,
43:22just short two years,
43:23I'm clean.
43:24I mean,
43:25I will probably never meet him again,
43:26but that doesn't mean
43:27I can't repay him
43:27by showing kindness
43:28to the next person
43:29and knowing in myself
43:30that the investment
43:31of probably no more
43:32than four or five quid
43:33and a bottle of water,
43:34but more importantly,
43:35his kindness
43:35was the best investment
43:37anybody had ever made.
43:38He made an investment
43:39in a human being,
43:40in the universe,
43:41in me.
43:42I'd love to give him
43:43this key ring.
43:44It's the highest key ring
43:45you can get
43:45in Narcotics Anonymous
43:47for multiple years of recovery.
43:49It means a lot to me,
43:50but without him,
43:50I wouldn't have earned it.
43:51If you could share this status,
43:53maybe he will see it.
43:54Today,
43:54I'm two years clean and sober.
43:57I'm thankful
43:57for that single,
43:59random act of kindness.
44:07Amazingly,
44:07two weeks ago,
44:08the mother got in touch.
44:10You've never seen them,
44:10have you,
44:11since that day?
44:11I've not seen them, no.
44:12It is a Mother's Day special.
44:13Yes,
44:14what Emmanuel did
44:15was incredible
44:15and I think
44:17what was steeped in him
44:18by his mother
44:18was equally incredible.
44:20If you looked
44:21in that direction,
44:22this guy saved your life.
44:23Emmanuel and Samantha
44:24on the Jeremy Kyle show.
44:25That's right.
44:38How are you,
44:41my friend?
44:44Are you OK?
44:45It's absolute...
44:46I've done this show...
44:48I've done this show...
44:50I've done this show
44:51for a long, long time
44:52and this is a very,
44:53very different story.
44:55When you read that post,
44:57what did that mean to you?
44:58When I first read the post,
45:01I didn't really...
45:02He didn't go into
45:03too much detail
45:04but a week later
45:05I actually heard Ben
45:06on the radio
45:06and that's when I realised
45:08that that was us.
45:09When Emmanuel
45:10went to him
45:12and gave him the water
45:13and then later on
45:14wanted to give him money
45:15as a mother,
45:16what did that mean?
45:16I was proud of Emmanuel
45:19because he was only seven
45:20and it wasn't the easiest
45:21thing to do
45:22but, yeah,
45:23it was the right thing to do.
45:25APPLAUSE
45:26You said that, um...
45:29You said that an act of...
45:31I mean, this says everything
45:32about you as a mother.
45:33An act of kindness
45:34can change somebody's life.
45:35If people were kind
45:36of the world
45:37would be a better place.
45:38Emmanuel, welcome
45:38to the Jeremy Karsh
45:39show, your little hero.
45:40Can you believe
45:41that you genuinely
45:43changed this man's life?
45:44I mean, you're still young
45:45but what you did
45:46saved this man's life.
45:48What does that mean?
45:50It just makes me feel like
45:52everyone else should be like that
45:54because some people
45:55are less unfortunate
45:56than us.
45:57What do you want
45:58to say to him, Ben?
45:59I'd like to give you
46:00this for starters
46:01because it means a lot
46:02to me.
46:02It's the highest key
46:04when you can get
46:04in Archives Anonymous
46:05and it might not mean
46:07much to you now
46:07but one day
46:08you can look back
46:09at this and it reminds
46:10you of what you've done
46:11because you did
46:12literally save my life
46:13and, um...
46:13APPLAUSE
46:14APPLAUSE
46:15Did your mum,
46:25this great lady
46:26sat next to you,
46:27did she always teach you
46:28there's a right
46:29and wrong way
46:29to behave?
46:30Yeah, she always
46:32told me
46:33what's the right
46:34thing to do
46:35so, um,
46:36if we saw
46:38someone who needed help
46:40she taught me
46:41to always go up
46:42to them
46:42and help them.
46:44It is a Mother's Day
46:45special
46:45and we wanted
46:46to give something
46:46back to you
46:48as a thank you
46:49so, this is
46:50the present moment.
46:51Look at his face,
46:52presents?
46:53We have a family
46:55gift ticket
46:55to the Harry Potter
46:56experience.
46:57Do you like Harry Potter?
46:58You're going to be
46:58a special guest.
46:59You're going to have
46:59an amazing day.
47:00Round of applause.
47:01APPLAUSE
47:02APPLAUSE
47:02We're going to send
47:09you...
47:10If you say no
47:11I'm going to look
47:12like an idiot.
47:12You like the space,
47:13don't you?
47:13You like the space.
47:14We're going to send
47:14you and your mother
47:16a complimentary VIP
47:18visit to the
47:18National Space Centre.
47:20They've got
47:20interactive galaxies,
47:22the galleries,
47:23the UK's largest
47:23planetarium,
47:24unique three-day
47:25simulator experience
47:26and the iconic
47:2742-metre
47:28high rocket tower.
47:29You're going to be
47:29a special guest.
47:30The complimentary visit
47:31to the National Space
47:33Centre as well.
47:33Round of applause
47:34to get him out as well.
47:35APPLAUSE
47:40We're going to send
47:42you to the Bluestone
47:43National Park Resort
47:44in Pembrokeshire.
47:45We're going to give you
47:45a weekend break
47:46for the whole family.
47:47It's five-star.
47:48It's a three-bedroom lodge.
47:50You're going to go there
47:50with the whole family
47:51and have a fantastic time.
47:52I hope people will
47:53understand.
47:54If there were more
47:55parents, honestly,
47:56watching this,
47:57if you can look
47:58yourself in the mirror
47:58and say that you've
47:59taught your kid
48:00like she's taught her kid,
48:01I reckon we'd all be
48:02very proud of the job
48:03we did.
48:03I hope you had
48:03a fantastic time.
48:05And Ben,
48:05and that's for you
48:09and that's for you.
48:10But I sit, squat,
48:12whatever, in front
48:13of a lot of people
48:13who will say,
48:14and I want the last word
48:15to be with you,
48:15there's no way out.
48:16You know,
48:17you changed your life,
48:18Ben.
48:19You deserve huge respect.
48:20What would your message
48:20be for people who perhaps
48:22right now think
48:22there is no way out?
48:24Well,
48:25anything is possible
48:28if you put your mind
48:28through it.
48:29You're in a better place,
48:30aren't you?
48:31And you have this family
48:31to thank.
48:32Give them a round of applause.
48:33Thank you, guys.
48:33You've got that one.
48:34You're in a nice family
48:35for them.
48:36Remind me well,
48:37thank you.
48:38Enjoy the presence of life.
48:39Give them a round of applause.
48:43What a nice way
48:43to end in a great show.
48:44I'm out of time for the day.
48:45If you want to be here,
48:46you need my help.
48:47Visit my website.
48:47The details are on the screen
48:48to the guests,
48:49to the audience
48:49and to you at home.
48:50Thanks for watching.
48:51We'll see you very soon.
48:52Take care.
48:52Bye-bye for now.
48:53CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
48:55AND APPLAUSE