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00:00But Dr. Jin, do you think there is a route that lets both these two proud leaders save face?
00:06Well, the off-ramp, you know, it's very hard to imagine what that looks like.
00:11Now, I think that they were probably having discussions, hopefully side discussions.
00:18There are people who are familiar with both sides doing some of the work.
00:24I know that there's an intense political discussion within China on what to do, which signifies that there is scope for at least taking the temperature down and room for negotiation, which I believe is also what China desires.
00:38But exactly who's going to blink first, that's really hard to predict.